Extension to Call for keys for keysigning in Cáceres during DebConf9

2009-07-13 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
The format of the kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:

  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html

There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.

Please send your new/updated public keys as explained at:

  http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/ksp-dc9.html

If you have sent your public keys and they aren't listed at:

  http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/names.html

please send me a mail message ASAP.


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mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-13 Thread Alastair McKinstry

Hi,

I've just returned from a two-week vacation during which time my 
mailserver at home
was broken (ADSL line problems). In fact the DNS was also unreachable, 
so mail bounced badly.

If you sent me a mail in the last two weeks, please resend.

In particular, I had some packages uploaded to the NEW queue in this 
period, and they have disappeared:
I think they must have been rejected. Are the ftp master messages logged 
anywhere ? I'd like to know why

they were rejected.

Regards
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Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
'lo

  I am reading:

http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205

  But everytime I chroot into my 32bits system, part of my system
still sees me as my user:

$ sudo chroot ./Debian32Chroot
# id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
# echo $HOME
/home/mathieu

What should I do so that I either:

1. Completely be root
or
2. Completely be user 'mathieu'

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Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:29:34PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> 'lo
> 
>   I am reading:
> 
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205
> 
>   But everytime I chroot into my 32bits system, part of my system
> still sees me as my user:
> 
> $ sudo chroot ./Debian32Chroot
> # id
> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
> # echo $HOME
> /home/mathieu
> 
> What should I do so that I either:
> 
> 1. Completely be root
> or
> 2. Completely be user 'mathieu'

3. Read sudo's manual page, option -H.

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GC Warning: Couldn't read /proc/stat

2009-07-13 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi,

  I have setup a ia32 chroot on my amd64 system, but I cannot install
default-jdk which is needed for my software:

Ref:
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205

Full log is:

$ sudo -H chroot ./Debian32Chroot
# apt-get install default-jdk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  antlr default-jre default-jre-headless ecj ecj-gcj gappletviewer-4.3
gcj gcj-4.3 gcj-jdk gcj-jre gcj-jre-headless gij gij-4.3 gjdoc
java-gcj-compat java-gcj-compat-dev java-gcj-compat-headless
libbcel-java libecj-java-gcj libgcj9-0-awt libgcj9-dev libgcj9-jar
  libgcj9-src liblog4j1.2-java liblog4j1.2-java-gcj libmx4j-java libregexp-java
Suggested packages:
  ant libgcj9-dbg libbcel-java-doc libgcj-doc libgnumail-java
libservlet2.4-java jython
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  antlr default-jdk default-jre default-jre-headless ecj ecj-gcj
gappletviewer-4.3 gcj gcj-4.3 gcj-jdk gcj-jre gcj-jre-headless gij
gij-4.3 gjdoc java-gcj-compat java-gcj-compat-dev
java-gcj-compat-headless libbcel-java libecj-java-gcj libgcj9-0-awt
libgcj9-dev
  libgcj9-jar libgcj9-src liblog4j1.2-java liblog4j1.2-java-gcj
libmx4j-java libregexp-java
0 upgraded, 28 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 33.3MB of archives.
After this operation, 67.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
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Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mike Hommey  writes:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:29:34PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>> 'lo
>> 
>>   I am reading:
>> 
>> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205
>> 
>>   But everytime I chroot into my 32bits system, part of my system
>> still sees me as my user:
>> 
>> $ sudo chroot ./Debian32Chroot
>> # id
>> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
>> # echo $HOME
>> /home/mathieu
>> 
>> What should I do so that I either:
>> 
>> 1. Completely be root
>> or
>> 2. Completely be user 'mathieu'
>
> 3. Read sudo's manual page, option -H.
>
> Mike

apt-get install schroot
RTFM

MfG
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Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> apt-get install schroot
> RTFM

Did you *actually* read it yourself ?

I'd suggest you reread it:

http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292437

There is no mention to chroot -H option whatsoever

You do not need to be rude when I explicitly quote the actual doc I am
reading, which obviously should not recommend the use of chroot

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Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Mathieu Malaterre  (13/07/2009):
> I'd suggest you reread it:
> 
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292437

Let's quote it further:
| So, when will it be released?
| The first planned official Debian release of 64bit userland for AMD64 will be 
Etch (Sarge+1).

> There is no mention to chroot -H option whatsoever
> 
> You do not need to be rude when I explicitly quote the actual doc I am
> reading, which obviously should not recommend the use of chroot

Which obviously hadn't been updated in *years*. RT*appropriate*FM.

Mraw,
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Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-13 Thread Luk Claes
Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> Hi,

Hi

> I've just returned from a two-week vacation during which time my
> mailserver at home
> was broken (ADSL line problems). In fact the DNS was also unreachable,
> so mail bounced badly.
> If you sent me a mail in the last two weeks, please resend.
> 
> In particular, I had some packages uploaded to the NEW queue in this
> period, and they have disappeared:
> I think they must have been rejected. Are the ftp master messages logged
> anywhere ? I'd like to know why
> they were rejected.

Yes, you can find them on merkel:/srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/*.reason

Cheers

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Re: GC Warning: Couldn't read /proc/stat

2009-07-13 Thread Vincent Danjean
Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   I have setup a ia32 chroot on my amd64 system, but I cannot install
> default-jdk which is needed for my software:
> 
> Ref:
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205
[...]

As stated before, this doc is really outdated. Please, look at some more recent 
doc.
You should also be able to find some debs for java on amd64 (not yet in the 
official
repository for some parts if I remember correctly but I did not check recently).

> GC Warning: Couldn't read /proc/stat
> Couldn't read /proc/self/stat

Is /proc mounted inside your chroot ? If not, do it or, better (as already told)
use schroot that will handle this for you (and read a up-to-date doc for 
schroot,
for example the documentation in the package : I'm not sure the part about 
schroot
in your document is still correct)

By the way, this has little to do with the development of Debian. Please, ask
this kind of question on debian-users (or other forums)

  Regards,
Vincent

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Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-13 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi,

Hans-J. Ullrich schrieb:
> Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
> 
>> The conversion system is an ugly hack. Sure. [...]
> 
> Despite whatever the people say, I like the new package. And I like the idea 
> behind it. And if it does not work at the beginning, who cares? It is 
> "unstable". To those who are mourning: Du you know the meaning of the word 
> "unstable"? It means, there is no guarantee, things will work! It means, 
> things must not be, as they were since many years. It means, things can 
> crash. 

Except packages uploaded to unstable will automatically migrate to
testing, the next stable release. So, if you already know in advance
that the package is not suitable for any faraway release, you (the
maintainer) should either file an RC bug against the 'unstable' version
in order to keep the package out of testing or should have uploaded it
to experimental.

As of now I see no such RC bug...

Regards
  Micha


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Bug#536822: ITP: libclass-accessor-classy-perl -- Perl module providing minimalist, fast accessors

2009-07-13 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp
Owner: Jonathan Yu 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libclass-accessor-classy-perl
  Version : 0.9.0
  Upstream Author : Eric Wilhelm 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-Accessor-Classy/
* License : Artistic | GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module providing minimalist, fast accessors
 Class::Accessor::Classy provides an extremely small-footprint accessor/mutator
 declaration scheme for fast and convenient object attribute setup. Its intent
 is to be a simple and speedy mechanism for preventing hash-key typos rather
 than a full-blown object system with type checking and so on.
 .
 The accessor ('foo') and mutator ('set_foo') methods appear as a hidden parent
 class of your package and stay out of your way otherwise.



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Bug#536825: ITP: libfile-fu-perl -- Perl module for file and directory manipulation as objects

2009-07-13 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp
Owner: Jonathan Yu 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libfile-fu-perl
  Version : 0.0.6
  Upstream Author : Eric Wilhelm 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/File-Fu/
* License : Artistic | GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module for file and directory manipulation as objects
 File::Fu provides the toplevel interface to directory and file objects, with
 operator overloading which allows precise path composition and support for
 most built-in methods. It also provides a way to create temporary directories
 and files, finding files, and more.
 .
 The interface and style provided by this module are quite different than Perl
 built-in functions or File::Spec. The syntax is concise and errors are checked
 using exceptions, so you never need to check a return code.



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Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mathieu Malaterre  writes:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Goswin von Brederlow 
> wrote:
>> apt-get install schroot
>> RTFM
>
> Did you *actually* read it yourself ?

*hust, hust* I actually wrote it. At least a small part of it.

> I'd suggest you reread it:
>
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292437
>
> There is no mention to chroot -H option whatsoever

Indeed, I did not say anything about chroot -H at all. Verry observant
of you.

> You do not need to be rude when I explicitly quote the actual doc I am
> reading, which obviously should not recommend the use of chroot

And if you would just read the next chapter to your above url you
would see that it does mention and explain schroot. I'm not being
root. I'm just telling you that you should go, as the HowTo puts
it, the "easier way".

MfG
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Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Micha Lenk  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Hans-J. Ullrich schrieb:
>> Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
>> 
>>> The conversion system is an ugly hack. Sure. [...]
>> 
>> Despite whatever the people say, I like the new package. And I like the idea 
>> behind it. And if it does not work at the beginning, who cares? It is 
>> "unstable". To those who are mourning: Du you know the meaning of the word 
>> "unstable"? It means, there is no guarantee, things will work! It means, 
>> things must not be, as they were since many years. It means, things can 
>> crash. 
>
> Except packages uploaded to unstable will automatically migrate to
> testing, the next stable release. So, if you already know in advance
> that the package is not suitable for any faraway release, you (the
> maintainer) should either file an RC bug against the 'unstable' version
> in order to keep the package out of testing or should have uploaded it
> to experimental.
>
> As of now I see no such RC bug...
>
> Regards
>   Micha

And why should there be. The package it totally usable and functional
as designed.

The only reason for it not to be in squeeze would be if multiarch
support will be in squeeze. Which I doubt will actually happen.

MfG
Goswin


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Several dpkg/apt questions

2009-07-13 Thread Fabiano Sidler
Hi folks!

Planning to set up one or more repos for LAN-wide software distribution,
I still have the following questions:

How is the debian/control file generated, out of which file(s) and/or
which information? I didn't find it in the orig.tar.gz file.

Technically, do the lenny and lenny/updates repos have more in common than
the lenny and squeeze repos, except that the */updates repos are updated?

Section 4.9 of the debian policy manual introduces the requirement of a
make hashbang for the debian/rules file. Why actually is this? Why not
specify it as a regular, non-executable makefile or, when using a hashbang,
just prescribe the parameters and leaving up to the author of the package
which interpreter should be used?

I hope that these questions are meaningful...
Greetings,
Fabiano


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Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-13 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi,

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
>>>
 The conversion system is an ugly hack. Sure. [...]
> [...]
>
> The package it totally usable and functional as designed.

Don't you feel like contradicting yourself?

> The only reason for it not to be in squeeze would be if multiarch
> support will be in squeeze. Which I doubt will actually happen.

I think we are yet faraway from last decisions on what is going to be
supported in squeeze and what not. So, IMHO it would be perfectly
reasonable to keep the package out of squeeze for now.
Once a package has migrated to testing it's bigger issue to get it back
out there than getting it in in time for the next release...

... just my 2¢.

Regards
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Re: Several dpkg/apt questions

2009-07-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:01:49 +0200
Fabiano Sidler  wrote:

> Planning to set up one or more repos for LAN-wide software distribution,
> I still have the following questions:

Wrong list, try debian-ment...@lists.debian.org and/or debian-u...@l.d.o

None of the questions have anything in particular to do with dpkg or
apt.

> How is the debian/control file generated, out of which file(s) and/or
> which information? I didn't find it in the orig.tar.gz file.

See the Developers Reference and New Maintainer Guide, then follow up
questions to debian-mentors.

http://www.uk.debian.org/devel/
 
> Technically, do the lenny and lenny/updates repos have more in common than
> the lenny and squeeze repos, except that the */updates repos are updated?

lenny/proposed-updates contains updated packages that will be included
into the next point release of lenny - the current stable release.
(5.0.2 etc.) squeeze/ contains the packages from testing which will
(after the usual pain of the release process) form the next stable
release after lenny (Squeeze will be Debian 6.0). There are large
numbers of changes between stable and testing, starting from when new
uploads to unstable first migrate into testing after a release;
packages in stable/proposed-updates only have minimal changes to the
equivalent packages in stable/ (and are therefore built specially for
this purpose). 

All follow-on questions to debian-user or debian-mentors.

> Section 4.9 of the debian policy manual introduces the requirement of a
> make hashbang for the debian/rules file. Why actually is this?

So that builds can be done in sections whilst testing and/or debugging
and a variety of other requirements:

$ fakeroot debian/rules binary

Follow up questions to debian-mentors please.

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