ITP: gst-buzztard -- modular, free, open source music studio (GStreamer extensions)

2008-11-30 Thread Sebastian Dröge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: gst-buzztard
  Version : 0.4.0
  Upstream Author : Stefan Kost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.buzztard.org
* License : LGPL 2.1+
  Description : modular, free, open source music studio

Hi,
I'm planning to package buzztard soonish, now that some fundamental
issues are solved in 0.4.0.

Together with buzztard the three dependencies gst-buzztard, bml and bsl
will also be packaged.

This package will be maintained by the pkg-gstreamer team.


> The buzztard project aims to provide a modular, free, open source
> music studio that is conceptually based on the proprietary Windows
> software called Buzz. The Buzz software is not really further
> developed, as the main developer has lost his source code. The
> buzztard project itself has no direct link to Buzz (apart from its
> concepts that we build upon). We don't want to make buzztard a 1:1
> Buzz copy. In comparison to Buzz, we hope that our software will
> improve in usability and features in the future. To allow migration
> for Buzz users, we are providing song-file import and buzz-machine
> reuse.
> 
> Features and functionality are added in small development cycles (see
> Roadmap for the current planning and Status for what we achieved
> already).
> 
> Buzztard is free software and distributed under the LGPL.


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ITP: buzztard -- modular, free, open source music studio

2008-11-30 Thread Sebastian Dröge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: buzztard
  Version : 0.4.0
  Upstream Author : Stefan Kost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.buzztard.org
* License : LGPL 2.1+
  Description : modular, free, open source music studio

Hi,
I'm planning to package buzztard soonish, now that some fundamental
issues are solved in 0.4.0.

Together with buzztard the three dependencies gst-buzztard, bml and bsl
will also be packaged.

This package will be maintained by the pkg-gstreamer team.


> The buzztard project aims to provide a modular, free, open source
> music studio that is conceptually based on the proprietary Windows
> software called Buzz. The Buzz software is not really further
> developed, as the main developer has lost his source code. The
> buzztard project itself has no direct link to Buzz (apart from its
> concepts that we build upon). We don't want to make buzztard a 1:1
> Buzz copy. In comparison to Buzz, we hope that our software will
> improve in usability and features in the future. To allow migration
> for Buzz users, we are providing song-file import and buzz-machine
> reuse.
> 
> Features and functionality are added in small development cycles (see
> Roadmap for the current planning and Status for what we achieved
> already).
> 
> Buzztard is free software and distributed under the LGPL.


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ITP: bsl -- modular, free, open source music studio (BuzzSong loader)

2008-11-30 Thread Sebastian Dröge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: gst-buzztard
  Version : 0.4.0
  Upstream Author : Stefan Kost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.buzztard.org
* License : LGPL 2.1+
  Description : modular, free, open source music studio

Hi,
I'm planning to package buzztard soonish, now that some fundamental
issues are solved in 0.4.0.

Together with buzztard the three dependencies gst-buzztard, bml and bsl
will also be packaged.

This package will be maintained by the pkg-gstreamer team.


> The buzztard project aims to provide a modular, free, open source
> music studio that is conceptually based on the proprietary Windows
> software called Buzz. The Buzz software is not really further
> developed, as the main developer has lost his source code. The
> buzztard project itself has no direct link to Buzz (apart from its
> concepts that we build upon). We don't want to make buzztard a 1:1
> Buzz copy. In comparison to Buzz, we hope that our software will
> improve in usability and features in the future. To allow migration
> for Buzz users, we are providing song-file import and buzz-machine
> reuse.
> 
> Features and functionality are added in small development cycles (see
> Roadmap for the current planning and Status for what we achieved
> already).
> 
> Buzztard is free software and distributed under the LGPL.


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ITP: bml -- modular, free, open source music studio (BuzzMachine loader)

2008-11-30 Thread Sebastian Dröge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: bml
  Version : 0.4.0
  Upstream Author : Stefan Kost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.buzztard.org
* License : LGPL 2.1+
  Description : modular, free, open source music studio

Hi,
I'm planning to package buzztard soonish, now that some fundamental
issues are solved in 0.4.0.

Together with buzztard the three dependencies gst-buzztard, bml and bsl
will also be packaged.

This package will be maintained by the pkg-gstreamer team.


> The buzztard project aims to provide a modular, free, open source
> music studio that is conceptually based on the proprietary Windows
> software called Buzz. The Buzz software is not really further
> developed, as the main developer has lost his source code. The
> buzztard project itself has no direct link to Buzz (apart from its
> concepts that we build upon). We don't want to make buzztard a 1:1
> Buzz copy. In comparison to Buzz, we hope that our software will
> improve in usability and features in the future. To allow migration
> for Buzz users, we are providing song-file import and buzz-machine
> reuse.
> 
> Features and functionality are added in small development cycles (see
> Roadmap for the current planning and Status for what we achieved
> already).
> 
> Buzztard is free software and distributed under the LGPL.


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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
2008/11/30 Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday 30 November 2008 00:56, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> > Closes: 341420
>> Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?
>> I find your upload very impolite.
>
> Huh? We are in a permanent bugsquashing party, cause we want to release lenny.

So what?  One email with "I am going to upload PHP5 to resolve #341420" would
really delay release.  I don't find it impolite, I find it very rude.

> This is a RC bugs since three weeks, so I rather think the php-maintainers
> have been unpolite leaving it open so long...

Sorry, but this is really bad approach - attacking php maintainers when somebody
else made mistake of not communicating that he is going to upload.
This is basic
courtesy between DDs (at least it was in the old days).  We are all only people
with real lives and sometimes the time is lacking, or we forgot about bugs
or whatever - but nothing of it could be excuse for doing NMU without
prior notice
- sending email is not that hard compared to preparing proper NMU.

Ondrej
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ITP: taglib-rusxmms -- TagLib + RusXMMS patch

2008-11-30 Thread ivan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

--- Please fill out the fields below. ---

Package name: taglib-rusxmms
Version: 1.5
Upstream Author: Scott Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL: http://ktown.kde.org/~wheeler/taglib
License: LGPL-2.1
Description: TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library 

RusXMMS Project
===

Originally, the project was aimed to provide means to work with multiple 
encodings of the same language through adapting encoding of ID3 tags, M3U and 
PLS playlists (including file names) to local settings on-the-fly. Both the 
tag reading and writing back using any selected encoding was supported.
Nowadays there are library available providing the same functionality for 
almost any program with just a few lines of code. The library is not limited 
to ID3 tags, it can be useful for any program working with small titles or 
file names in different languages and encodings. The patches for several 
music players, ID3 tag libraries and some other programs are available on the 
project page.


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Re: ITP: taglib-rusxmms -- TagLib + RusXMMS patch

2008-11-30 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 15:09:32 30.11.2008 UTC+03 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did gyre and 
gimble:

 i> Package name: taglib-rusxmms

The name is *very* misleading, due to

 i> The library is not limited to ID3 tags, it can be useful for any
 i> program working with small titles or file names in different
 i> languages and encodings.

 i> The patches for several music players, ID3 tag libraries and some
 i> other programs are available on the project page.

Why the author does not cooperate with those projects? "Patches" means
those are not applied upstream. Using Debian to achieve this is not very
wise idea.

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Bug#507352: ITP: qlandkartegt -- GPS mapping (GeoTIFF and vector) and Garmin GPSr management

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Hanke
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: qlandkartegt
  Version : 0.9.0
  Upstream Author : Oliver Eichler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.qlandkarte.org/
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : GPS mapping (GeoTiff and vector) and GPSr management


This package provides a versatile tool for GPS maps in GeoTiff format as
well as Garmin's img vector map format. QLandkarteGT is the successor of
QLandkarte. Among various improvements (e.g. 2D/3D map rendering and
reduced ressource demands) the major difference is its
device-independent architecture, which is not limited to Garmin devices
anymore. Therefore, the package also does not include device drivers.
Drivers for a number of Garmin devices are available from the
 package.

Additionally, QLandkarteGT serves as a frontend to the GDAL tools, to
make georeferencing of scanned maps feasible for users. In contrast to
similar tools (e.g. QGis) its straightforward interface is especially
suited for non-scientific users.



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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread sean finney
hiya,

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:43:22AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Huh? We are in a permanent bugsquashing party, cause we want to release 
> lenny. 
> This is a RC bugs since three weeks, so I rather think the php-maintainers 
> have been unpolite leaving it open so long...

for future reference a number of us who are either active or semi-active with
php maintenance are also often on irc, so if writing an email is too cumbersome
you can also ping us (raphael or myself, anyway) on #debian-devel.  

however, i'd still suggest that the best practice would be to attach something 
to
the bug for posterity (and yes, the same applies to the "undocumented"
php-maint intentions as well)

personally i don't object to having an NMU done for this, though a "heads up"
would have been appreciated.


sean


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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:56:39PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> [...]
> > Urgency: low
> > Maintainer: Debian PHP Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Changed-By: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Description:
> [...]
> > Closes: 341420
> > Changes:
> >  php5 (5.2.6.dfsg.1-0.1) unstable; urgency=low
> >  .
> >   * Non-maintainer upload.
> >   * Remove exts/dbase from orig tarball (Closes: #341420)
> 
> Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?
> 
> I find your upload very impolite.
 
php5 had an RC bug open with an obvious fix available for 3 weeks.  The
fix was to remove code that was not even being built, so it was
low-risk.  Why exactly should I have hesitated to NMU?

Ben.

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Re: system users

2008-11-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Vincent Bernat]
>> That is nice.  We will be able to get reasonable output under ps
>> command for exim4 too.
>
> You are right. Too long usernames are displayed numerically.

ps, top and wtmp/utmp (ie w,last, etc) have user name limits.  For ps
and top, it seem to be the POSIX limit of 8 characters, while
wtmp/utmp have 32 characters as the limit (see
/usr/include/bits/utmp.h).  To avoid admins being surprised when using
ps and top, I would strongly recommend to avoid more than 8 characters
in usernames.

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Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

To see which popular packages are missing in Debian/main at the
moment, I decided to compare the list of popular pckaages in Ubuntu
with the list of packages in Debian/main.  The result was interesting.

There are at the moment 823762 reports colleected in
popcon.ubuntu.com.  I decided to use 5000 (~0.6%) installations as the
cutoff point defining "popular", as 5000 installations could be seen
as quite a significant user base, even if it is a very small fraction
of the user base..  This gave me a list of 1543 packages in Ubuntu.
There are 31595 debian/main packages listed as used by
popcon.debian.org, and comparing these lists give this list of 152
packages only in Ubuntu and not in Debian/main:

  acroread acroread-escript adobe-flashplugin apparmor apparmor-utils
  apport apturl avidemux binutils-static bluez bluez-gstreamer
  busybox-initramfs compiz-wrapper displayconfig-gtk dkms dvdrip
  emerald example-content firefox-2 firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding
  firefox-3.0-gnome-support gdebi-kde gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse hwdb-client-common
  hwdb-client-gnome hwtest hwtest-gtk iceauth inputattach
  jockey-common jockey-gtk jockey-kde kdebase-workspace-bin
  kde-window-manager kio-umountwrapper kubuntu-artwork-usplash lame
  landscape-common language-pack-de language-pack-de-base
  language-pack-en language-pack-en-base language-pack-es
  language-pack-es-base language-pack-fr language-pack-fr-base
  language-selector language-selector-common launchpad-integration
  libbluetooth3 libcamel1.2-14 libcanberra-gnome libcryptui0 libdca0
  libebackend1.2-0 libedataserver1.2-11 libemeraldengine0 libfaac0
  libgnome-desktop-2-7 libgp11-0 libgucharmap7
  liblaunchpad-integration1 libltdl7 libplasma2 linux-firmware
  linux-headers-2.6.24-21 linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic
  linux-headers-2.6.27-7 linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic
  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic linux-image-2.6.22-15-generic
  linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
  linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-21-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-common
  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic mencoder mjpegtools
  nspluginwrapper nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-177-kernel-source
  nvidia-177-modaliases nvidia-71-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases
  nvidia-common nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-glx-new
  nvidia-settings onboard openoffice.org-l10n-common
  openoffice.org-style-human opera picasa powermanagement-interface
  pxljr python-apport python-bittorrent python-cupshelpers
  python-gconf python-gnomecanvas python-launchpad-bugs
  python-launchpad-integration python-problem-report python-virtkey
  python-xkit rar restricted-manager restricted-manager-core
  seahorse-plugins sessreg skype smartdimmer soprano-daemon
  sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jdk
  sun-java6-jre system-config-printer-common
  system-config-printer-gnome system-config-printer-kde sysvutils
  transcode ufw unrar update-motd upstart upstart-compat-sysv
  upstart-logd usb-creator usplash-theme-ubuntu virtualbox
  virtualbox-2.0 vlc-plugin-pulse volumeid w32codecs xdpyinfo xkbutils
  xmodmap xorg-driver-fglrx xrdb xset xsetroot xvinfo

I was a bit surprised that there were so few popular packages missing
in Debian/main.  A lot of these packages are due to different package
structure or other differences between Debian and Ubuntu, while others
are already available in contrib or non-free (like sun-java*).

A lot of the rest is multimedia related (like avidemux, lame,
mencoder, mjpegtools, transcode) which would be very nice to have
available in Debian.  The onboard package for example seem to be
related to accessibility support.  Should we try to get any of these
packages into Debian/main?

This is how I made the list:

  GET http://popcon.ubuntu.com/by_vote.gz | gunzip > ubuntu-by_vote-all
  GET http://popcon.debian.org/main/by_vote.gz | gunzip > debian-by_vote-main
  grep -v '#' ubuntu-by_vote-all |awk '$4 > 1 {print $2}' | \
sort > ubuntu-popular
  awk '{print $2}' debian-by_vote-main | sort > debian-main
  comm -23 ubuntu-popular debian-main

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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

Cyril, thanks for your reply. (I'm not even sure I should send this one, as I 
dont add much...)

On Sunday 30 November 2008 05:24, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > > Huh? We are in a permanent bugsquashing party, cause we want to
> > > release lenny.
> Still, coordination and communication matter.

I fully agree.

> It sounds to me that just saying
> “ACK, no need to NMU, we're actively working on getting this fixed”
> after the severity got bumped would have done the job. 

I think so too.

> > > This is a RC bugs since three weeks, so I rather think the
> > > php-maintainers have been unpolite leaving it open so long...
> Maybe Holger meant “without any reply”, but I can't speak for him.

Yup.

> Coordination and communication got lacking, no need to get so angry. ;)

Amen.

On Sunday 30 November 2008 05:04, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Right, but it is a DFSG-freeness issue and those take time to
> *properly* resolve. 

That depends, sometimes removal of those bits doesnt hurt. Also, removing 
those bits is usually better than removing the package. 

Having an RC bug open without a reply for three weeks at this stage of the 
release is just not acceptable.


regards,
Holger


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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Should we try to get any of these packages into Debian/main?

I think it is up to their Ubuntu maintainers or any Debian people who
use them or want them in Debian to get them into Debian
main/contrib/non-free.

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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> comparing these lists give this list of 152
> packages only in Ubuntu and not in Debian/main:
> 
>   acroread 

It would be useful to (i) only include packages from Ubuntu
universe/main, and (ii) maybe edit it a bit to remove the kernel
packages etc.


Otherwise, that's a great list to have!

Michael


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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-11-30, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   kdebase-workspace-bin
>   kde-window-manager 

is in experimental.

>   system-config-printer-common
>   system-config-printer-gnome 

I am planning to request this split of system-config-printer quite soon,
so that we when next kde major release can have

>   system-config-printer-kde 

/Sune


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Bug#507376: ITP: upprint -- tools for better n-up printing

2008-11-30 Thread Paulus Esterhazy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

  Package name: upprint
  Version : 1.5
  Upstream Author : Peter Selinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  URL : http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/upprint/
  License : GPL / psutils licence
  Programming Lang: C

The upprint package contains tools for better formatting
of print jobs. Unlike print systems such as CUPS,
which delegate all formatting to the print server, the
upprint tools are designed to work on the user side, and
therefore under the user's control. The package provides
the following tools:

pstops-clip: an extension of Angus J. C. Duggan's
pstops program for reformatting postscript files. The
extension allows configurable page clipping.

psdim: a small utility to be used in conjunction with
pstops or pstops-clip. It determines the true margins of
a postscript documents and calculates the optimal page
placement for n-up printing. It outputs a format string
suitable for processing by pstops or pstops-clip. In
order to accurately determine the size of the pages in a
postscript document, psdim internally uses the ghostscript
interpreter to render the document. For this reason,
psdim is relatively slow, but much more accurate than
other tools.

lprwrap: a wrapper around the standard "lpr"
program. Lprwrap is a client-side program, which means,
all processing is done under your control before passing
the print job to lpr. Lprwrap can convert common file
formats to postscript. It recognizes special options
for duplex printing and n-up printing. It handles n-up
printing intelligently, with optimal margins based on
the actual document (see above illustration).

I have packaged an initial version and am looking for a sponsor the
preliminary packages are accessible here:

http://loevborg.karmafish.net/debian/upprint/



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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > comparing these lists give this list of 152
> > packages only in Ubuntu and not in Debian/main:

> >   acroread 

> It would be useful to (i) only include packages from Ubuntu
> universe/main,

and perhaps to exclude packages that are no longer distributed by Ubuntu -
the only still-supported Ubuntu release that includes acroread is Ubuntu
6.06 LTS, it's not present in Ubuntu 7.10 or later.

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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 03:29:14PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > >   * Non-maintainer upload.
> > >   * Remove exts/dbase from orig tarball (Closes: #341420)

> > Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?

> > I find your upload very impolite.

> php5 had an RC bug open with an obvious fix available for 3 weeks.  The
> fix was to remove code that was not even being built, so it was
> low-risk.  Why exactly should I have hesitated to NMU?

devref 5.11.1., "How to do a NMU"? :

  NMUs which fix important, serious or higher severity bugs are
  encouraged and accepted. You should endeavor to reach the
  current maintainer of the package; they might be just about to
  upload a fix for the problem, or have a better solution.

  [...]

  At times, the release manager or an organized group of
  developers can announce a certain period of time in which the
  NMU rules are relaxed. This usually involves shortening the
  period during which one is to wait before uploading the fixes,
  and shortening the DELAYED period. It is important to notice
  that even in these so-called bug squashing party times, the
  NMU'er has to file bugs and contact the developer first, and act
  later. 

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Bug#507400: ITP: libi18n-ruby -- I18n and localization solution for Ruby

2008-11-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Re: qmail and related packages in NEW

2008-11-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 30, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Qmail is dead upstream and requires a whole set of patches to even begin to
> work in the manner expected of a modern MTA.  Given this, the fact that this
> means there is also no upstream security support, and the fact that Debian
> already contains at least three reasonable MTAs, we see no need to add qmail 
> to
> the archive. So - please reconsider if it really helps Debian to have those
While I totally agree that qmail is an obsolete FPOS with many bad
problems and I hate it with a passion at least as much as any decent
person, I need to remind everybody that sadly it is a dependency of
Plesk (the only high quality administration panel software) so it's
still going to be installed anyway on many Debian servers.
Maybe having an official well-maintained package (and the one you
evalued clearly is not) is the least evil.

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Bug#507412: ITP: liq-contrib -- contributed scripts for liquidsoap

2008-11-30 Thread Romain Beauxis
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Romain Beauxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: liq-contrib
  Version : 08.11
  Upstream Author : The Savonet Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://savonet.sf.net/
* License : GPL v2+
  Programming Lang: liquidsoap
  Description : contributed scripts for liquidsoap

 liq-contrib contains various scripts implemented using
 the liquidsoap audio streaming language.
 .
 Currently, it contains:
  o liq123: a command line audio player
  o streamliqueur: an audio stream ripper
  o simpleliq: a program to create and test simple streaming
examples using the liquidsoap language.

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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi,

2008/11/30 Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[...]
> On Sunday 30 November 2008 05:04, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> Right, but it is a DFSG-freeness issue and those take time to
>> *properly* resolve.
>
> That depends, sometimes removal of those bits doesnt hurt. Also, removing
> those bits is usually better than removing the package.

The package would not be removed, the issue would have been fixed
either by getting permission from the copyright holder, or by
*properly* removing the affected code.

By coordinating the removal of the code the following things could
have been done:
1.- Decide the proper naming of the uploaded package version
2.- Ensuring that the watch file mangles the Debian version and that
it calls a script designed to strip the code from the downloaded
tarball, so that there is no need to manually remove it from future
tarballs[1].
3.- Including patches for a couple of issues that were pending to be uploaded.

[1] The dbase extension has been removed by upstream for the 5.3.x
series, but the future releases of the 5.2.x will still include it.

>
> Having an RC bug open without a reply for three weeks at this stage of the
> release is just not acceptable.

The "offending code" can quickly be dated back to 9 years ago; and IMO
it is not about "getting it ready for the release:" it affects all
versions of the package.

>
>
> regards,
>Holger
>

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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Raphael Geissert
[I would appreciate if you respected the CoC]

2008/11/30 Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[...]
>
> php5 had an RC bug open with an obvious fix available for 3 weeks.  The

What looks obvious to you may not be obvious to the others, please
refrain from making such statements.

> fix was to remove code that was not even being built, so it was
> low-risk.  Why exactly should I have hesitated to NMU?

As already stated by Steve: because of devref 5.11.1, and because of
mere courtesy.

Also, the issue affects all versions of php from php3 to php5. So in
case you are interested in "fixing" the whole problem then deal with
the copies at archive.d.o, snapshot.d.n, and master.

>
> Ben.
>

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Not MIA D= (was Re: Bug#495190: no answer for 495190)

2008-11-30 Thread José Miguel Parrella Romero

Vincent Danjean escribió:

  Hi,

  Is Jose Parrella MIA ? I did not get any answer at all from him
since 15 Aug 2008 (and a reminder on 29 Oct 2008).


Hello, Vincent!

I'm not MIA, as you might see from other Debian-related activity. I've 
already uploaded the latest A::CD. Let me know if you run into any 
problems. All of my packages are open for NMU if you think I'm lagging.


NB: I'm not in the list.

Jose


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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100]:
> (...)
>   acroread acroread-escript

FWIW, I find this quite strange... I know many non-FS users assume
that the good PDF reader is the Acrobat PDF reader. However, I find it
quite inferior both in usability and on quality to evince - Even now
that evince does properly(?) support provisions disallowing copying
from or printing a PDF.

But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody
know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly
handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some
distributions?

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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 18:45 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> [I would appreciate if you respected the CoC]
> 
> 2008/11/30 Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [...]
> >
> > php5 had an RC bug open with an obvious fix available for 3 weeks.  The
> 
> What looks obvious to you may not be obvious to the others, please
> refrain from making such statements.
> 
> > fix was to remove code that was not even being built, so it was
> > low-risk.  Why exactly should I have hesitated to NMU?
> 
> As already stated by Steve: because of devref 5.11.1, and because of
> mere courtesy.

You're right, I'm sorry.

7.2.2 actually contradicts 5.11.1, but I accept that I should have
either notified my intent to NMU or used the delayed queue.

> Also, the issue affects all versions of php from php3 to php5.

Then please assign clones of the bug to php3 and php4.

> So in
> case you are interested in "fixing" the whole problem then deal with
> the copies at archive.d.o, snapshot.d.n, and master.

I don't believe there is quite the same concern over commercial
distribution there.

Ben.

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Re: qmail and related packages in NEW

2008-11-30 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 00:40:50 01.12.2008 UTC+01 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did gyre and 
gimble:

 Md> I need to remind everybody that sadly it is a dependency of Plesk
 Md> (the only high quality administration panel software) so it's still
 Md> going to be installed anyway on many Debian servers.

 Md> Maybe having an official well-maintained package (and the one you
 Md> evalued clearly is not) is the least evil.

[speaking as Plesk ex-developer] It won't help, Plesk's qmail is patched
in various ways, including Plesk-specific patches, so version provided
by Debian won't help.

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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Daniel Moerner
With regard to the thread proper: As far as packages that are not
currently in Debian, dkms has already obviously been discussed.
apturl seems interesting, however.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100]:
>> (...)
>>   acroread acroread-escript
>
> FWIW, I find this quite strange... I know many non-FS users assume
> that the good PDF reader is the Acrobat PDF reader. However, I find it
> quite inferior both in usability and on quality to evince - Even now
> that evince does properly(?) support provisions disallowing copying
> from or printing a PDF.
>
> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody
> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly
> handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some
> distributions?

Evince cannot properly zoom in on some pdfs.  Compare pdfs at 200%
zoom downloaded from JSTOR (a commonly used and rather expensive
database collection) in evince and acroread.  Evince has notably
inferior quality in this regard.

Also, prior to kde4, kpdf did not support rotation, which explains why
acroread as an alternative would have been popular.

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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Daniel Moerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> apturl seems interesting, however.

Debian already has aptlinex so apturl isn't needed. Might be a good
idea for the two upstreams of these packages to get them merged.

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Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Does anybody
> know why on Earth is Acroread popular?

There are some features that are present in e.g. evince, but are,
arguable though, more 'advanced' implemented in adobe reader (e.g.
better zooming capabilities as alreayd someone said).

however, there are two 'features' that are atm completely specific to
adobe reader: CMYK support and support of displaying certain DRM locked
ebooks and such, that do dynamically 'reload' pages from sub-files (many
computer magazine archive cds do that).

I think most people that use adobe reader use it because they just
*think* it is the better reader, which it is in most cases not. or
because they don't know that with mozplugger, you can use evince to
behave like adobes pdf plugin.

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Daniel

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Why is acroread so popular? (Was: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-11-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gunnar Wolf]
> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody
> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly
> handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some
> distributions?

It is also popular in Debian.  I asked the same question over at
debian-edu@, and got a lot of replies.  I recommend looking at
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg13528.html>
for that thread.

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Processed: reassign from ntp-server to ntp

2008-11-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Debian bugs #600000 and #1000000 contest

2008-11-30 Thread Christian Perrier
(originally sent to -devel-announce-publicity folks, that could
deserve an entry in the DPN, maybe?)

> As the bug #50 mark was turned on September 24th 2008, Debian
> developers and contributors need a new challenge.
> 
> So, again, a small contest has been set up. The principle is very
> simple: please place a bet (one per person) about the day bugs #60
> and #100 will be reported. 
> 
> The winner(s) will be the person(s) placing her|his|their bet as close
> as possible to the real moment bug #60 and #100 are reported.
> 
> There is nothing to win but the pride of being the person who
> predicted our bug report rate for the next months|years, just what
> René Mayorga won by winning the bug #50 prediction game
> (http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/50.html).
> 
> The bet page is a wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/60thBugContest
> 
> It will be closed on November 30th 2008. Bets will be kept statically
> until bug #60 is reported.
> 
> Then the page will be reopened with a new list of bets for bug
> #100.  Thus, we will have four sets of bets for bug #100 with
> even more suspense and fun!.

So far, we have quite few bets.

As a consequence, I will keep the bet wiki page opened up to December
31st. So, for those people who have played this little game, please
feel free to do so. There is nothing to win but your name being
mentioned in the official announcements in a few years...:-)





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Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi,

Raphael Geissert wrote:
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>> Urgency: low
>> Maintainer: Debian PHP Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Changed-By: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Description:
> [...]
>> Closes: 341420
>> Changes:
>>  php5 (5.2.6.dfsg.1-0.1) unstable; urgency=low
>>  .
>>   * Non-maintainer upload.
>>   * Remove exts/dbase from orig tarball (Closes: #341420)
> 
> Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?
> 
> I find your upload very impolite.

Notwithstanding the requirement to send diffs for NMUs, the bug log is a
good example of how not to deal with bugs properly.
While it's laudable that you bring the bug up in front, the bug log
ended in open questions from three weeks ago. For stuff that is easily
fixable that is 50% longer than what we expect for RC bug fixes.
0-day NMUs means that the requirement for advance contact is reduced to
sending the NMU diff at the time of an upload for existing, old-enough bugs.

  If, for any reason, you aren't able fix an RC bug in a package of
  yours within 2 weeks, you should either ask for help by sending a mail
  to the Quality Assurance (QA) group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or
  explain your difficulties and present a plan to fix them by sending a
  mail to the bug report.
  -- Developer's Reference 3.6

Mind you, acknowledging the fact that someone else took the trouble of
looking at your package might be an idea if you want to set an example
instead of just demanding politeness.

Kind regards

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