Re: RFH: Chrony goes into endless loop on x86_64

2008-04-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:50:43PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> See bug #474294.
> 
> If you have an x86_64 system you can help by
> 
>  a) installing chrony-1.21 from Stable or Unstable and confirming the bug
> 
> or
> 
>  b) installing chrony-1.23 from Experimental and determining if the new
> upstream release has fixed it.

That will be difficult since sometimes the bug does not hit for weeks
and then suddenly chrony starts to loop all the time. So I'd say go
ahead and upload the new version to unstable, and if there are no new
occurances of the bug for 1-2 months then you can close it.

Gabor

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Bug#477453: ITP: wgerman-medical -- German medical dictionary words for /usr/share/dict

2008-04-23 Thread Tobias Toedter
Package: wnpp
Owner: Tobias Toedter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: wgerman-medical
  Version : 20080327
  Upstream Author : Tobias Toedter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : https://launchpad.net/medicalterms
* License : GPL-3
  Description : German medical dictionary words for /usr/share/dict

This package contains a list of German medical words to be used
by spelling checkers.

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Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:49:07 +0200, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a refusal
>by the maintainer?

Acticaly refusing things is not part of Mr. Troup's operations. He
rather sits on such issues for years until they solve themselves.

Greetings
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Re: Package maintenance in $HOME os an NFS share? (best practices survey)

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:58:26 +1000, Ben Finney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So I'm wondering what other developers do. Are you using NFS at all?
>> Are you putting all your work under repository control and check the
>> files out to a local disk and back in to the server?
>
>I choose Bazaar http://bazaar-vcs.org/> where possible for
>version control of my software projects.

Am I the only one who finds answering a question a la "tool A is my
tool of choice, but it doesn't do a tiny little detail just as I want
it to do, can it be tweaked" with "use tool B, it's superior anyway"
totally unconstructive and also a little offensive?

Greetings
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Re: Bug#476573: preinst fails on etch->sid dist-upgrade with old unopkg

2008-04-23 Thread Timo Jyrinki
[should've replied to debian-devel in addition to bug 476573]

2008/4/17 Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Unfortunately I didn't think about/notice this either, but a etch->sid
>  dist-upgrade with openoffice.org-voikko involved now fails with the
>  scriplets using -env.

Yes, that's unfortunately true.

>  Option 2
>  
>  Policy 7.2 says you need a Pre-Depends for such cases...

I tried around with this last night for various rounds, and settled
now for this:
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-voikko/openoffice.org-voikko_2.2-3.dsc
debdiff attached.

I'm not sure if both -common (unopkg) and -core (unopkg.bin)
pre-dependencies are really needed, but I added them while trying to
find out the problems I had.

The problem I was having was that since the old voikko is removed
before the new one is installed, the new preinst is called with
install instead of upgrade. So I decided to remove the old voikko
extensions also when preinst is called with install, since postinst
anyway installs the new voikko again. One possible problematic
situation with more than one old voikko extensions was also resolved.

There is a remaining concern that since the old openoffice.org-core is
removed before the old openoffice.org-voikko, the old extension is not
removed by the old OOo. However, the new unopkg seems to do a fine job
removing the old extension, too, unlike maybe some time ago when OOo
was a bit more shaky about these things. So, currently with this
version I'm successfully having etch -> lenny upgrades (or, lenny + my
local ooo-voikko repo with this version). The new unopkg is usable at
the time ooo-voikko's preins tis called, old voikko version is removed
and new one is installed. The extension works, as does extensions
dialog in OOo (the dialog didn't start when the old voikko wasn't
removed properly).

Pre-Depends should be used sparingly, but it would seem like a good fit here.

-Timo


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Fwd: Bug#477386: devscripts: [debcheckout] should check for repository on unstable

2008-04-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there!

Yesterday evening I found a bug in debcheckout/devscripts, which
actually is caused by how `apt-cache showsrc $PKG` returns the different
versions (testing -> unstable -> experimental -> stable), completely
different from `apt-cache policy $PKG` (read below for examples).

It seems that I'm the only one who considers this as a bug: is there any
rationale behind this?  And why not showing the same output as
`apt-cache policy $PKG`?

I decided to not cc: the BTS, but feel free to do so if you think it's
necessary.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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Package: devscripts
Version: 2.10.26
Severity: important

Hello,

in case the output below wouldn't be self-explicative, it seems that
`apt-cache showsrc $PKG` doesn't return unstable versions first, which
renders debcheckout quite useless if you have more than unstable in your
apt sources.

=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/var/lib/git$ debcheckout -a cl-gd
can't use authenticated mode on repository \
 'http://cl-debian.alioth.debian.org/repository/pvaneynd/cl-gd/' since \
 it is not a known repository (e.g. alioth)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/var/lib/git$ apt-cache policy cl-gd
cl-gd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.5.6-2
  Version table:
 0.5.6-2 0
990 http://cdn.debian.net sid/main Packages
 0.5.6-1 0
500 http://cdn.debian.net testing/main Packages

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/var/lib/git$ apt-cache showsrc cl-gd
Package: cl-gd
Binary: cl-gd
Version: 0.5.6-1
[...]
Vcs-Darcs: http://cl-debian.alioth.debian.org/repository/pvaneynd/cl-gd/

Package: cl-gd
Binary: cl-gd
Version: 0.5.6-2
[...]
Vcs-Git: http://git.debian.org/git/pkg-common-lisp/cl-gd.git

Package: cl-gd
Binary: cl-gd
Version: 0.5.1-1
[...]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/var/lib/git$
=

I filed the bug to devscripts after a discussion on #d-devel:
=
[22:09:21]  why `apt-cache showsrc $PKG` returns versions in a
   different order than `apt-cache show $PKG`?  i.e.,
   not starting the latest in unstable
[22:09:49]  not starting FROM the..., obviously
[22:10:21]  they use two different indices
[22:11:16]  madduck: well, this renders `debcheckout -a`
   completely useless (and it's a bug IMHO)
[22:11:24]  uh oh
[22:11:27]  file it...
[22:11:32]  that's not a bug in apt
[22:11:42]  eigood: why?
[22:11:46]  madduck: devscripts or apt?
[22:11:47]  there is nothing that says what order apt should
output things in
[22:11:52]  gismo: devscripts
[22:11:57]  eigood: consistency?
[22:12:00]  madduck: thx
[22:12:07]  and, even then, what is available thru a 'deb'
line may not be in sync with a 'deb-src' line
[22:12:40]  deb  main
[22:12:46]  deb-src ... pool 
[22:12:50]  deb-src  contrib
[22:12:55]  deb  non-free
[22:12:58]  deb-src ... main
[22:12:59]  eigood: sure, but at least I'd like to have the
   same order for both (i.e., from the more recent to
   the oldest)
[22:13:00]  etc
[22:13:18]  eigood: anyway, I'm filing it for devscripts and
   let's see then
[22:13:22]  er, the second is supposed to be from snapshot
[22:14:22]  eigood: can I quote you on the bug report?
[22:14:38]  sure
[22:14:55]  eigood: thx
[22:15:08]  instead of having 2 lines, with main contrib
non-free, both deb/deb-src, an admin may split
those, and put them in some odd order
[22:15:20]  in an ideal world, you could have 2 options in
such cases:
[22:15:37]  order based on sources.list, or alphabetical
[22:15:53]  increasing version number
[22:16:20]  but in any event, it's not specified what should
be done
[22:16:44]  eigood: it's neither of based on sources.list nor
   alphabetical: it's testing -> unstable -> stable
[22:20:13]  madduck: BTW, can I quote you, too?
[22:20:24]  always
[22:20:44]  though i didn't really contribute anything, did
 i? :)
[22:21:54]  madduck: at least the choice

Re: Package maintenance in $HOME os an NFS share? (best practices survey)

2008-04-23 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:58:26 +1000, Ben Finney
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I choose Bazaar http://bazaar-vcs.org/> where possible for
> >version control of my software projects.
> 
> Am I the only one who finds answering a question a la "tool A is my
> tool of choice, but it doesn't do a tiny little detail just as I
> want it to do, can it be tweaked" with "use tool B, it's superior
> anyway" totally unconstructive and also a little offensive?

Nope, that sure does sound offensive. I'm glad nobody has done that in
this thread.

Or are you saying you find "I choose foo because of reason bar and
baz" indistinguishable from "Use foo, it's superior anyway"?

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Bug#477504: ITP: org-el -- An Emacs mode to get organized

2008-04-23 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastien Delafond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: org-el
  Version : 6.01c
  Upstream Author : Karsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://orgmode.org
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: elisp
  Description : An Emacs mode to get organized

Org-mode is a mode for keeping notes, maintaining ToDo lists, and
doing project planning with a fast and effective plain-text system.
.
Org-mode develops organizational tasks around NOTES files that contain
information about projects as plain text. Org-mode is implemented on
top of outline-mode, which makes it possible to keep the content of
large files well structured. Visibility cycling and structure editing
help to work with the tree. Tables are easily created with a built-in
table editor. Org-mode supports ToDo items, deadlines, time stamps,
and scheduling. It dynamically compiles entries into an agenda. Plain
text URL-like links connect to websites, emails, Usenet messages, BBDB
entries, and any files related to the projects. For printing and
sharing of notes, an Org-mode file can be exported as a structured
ASCII file, HTML, and LaTeX.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash



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Re: Please think and test before setting a mailing list as "Maintainer:"

2008-04-23 Thread Tino Keitel
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:11:28 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 11361 March 1977, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > I happen to often send mails to @packages.debian.org while
> > conducting my NMU campaigns for l10n bugs hunting.
> 
> > From time to time, I still get such mails rejected because the said
> > package uses a mailing list as "Maintainer:".
> 
> I did hate that too, and in the end it lead to the alioth admins
> implementing the Debian whitelist. That helps for about 95% of the
> packages using a mailinglist and currently allows all ftpteam members,
> debbugs, dak and lucas ddpomail as well as Hennings "migrated to
> testing" mails.

What about ordinary users who report bugs for packages with
members-only Alioth lists as the Maintainer: address?

I often got mails with the following content after submitting a bug for
such a package:

"Your mail to ... with the subject ... Is being held until the list
moderator can review it for approval."

I had cases where the moderator queue wasn't flushed for several
months.

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Re: Please think and test before setting a mailing list as "Maintainer:"

2008-04-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> What about ordinary users who report bugs for packages with
> members-only Alioth lists as the Maintainer: address?

These lists should be modified to whitelist all mails from the BTS,
which is what Joerg was talking about. [If there are repeat offenders,
point them out either here or to owner@ so appropriate changes can be
recommended and made.]


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Re: Please think and test before setting a mailing list as "Maintainer:"

2008-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tino Keitel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:11:28 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> On 11361 March 1977, Christian Perrier wrote:
>> > I happen to often send mails to @packages.debian.org while
>> > conducting my NMU campaigns for l10n bugs hunting.
>> 
>> > From time to time, I still get such mails rejected because the said
>> > package uses a mailing list as "Maintainer:".
>> 
>> I did hate that too, and in the end it lead to the alioth admins
>> implementing the Debian whitelist. That helps for about 95% of the
>> packages using a mailinglist and currently allows all ftpteam members,
>> debbugs, dak and lucas ddpomail as well as Hennings "migrated to
>> testing" mails.
>
> What about ordinary users who report bugs for packages with
> members-only Alioth lists as the Maintainer: address?
>
> I often got mails with the following content after submitting a bug for
> such a package:
>
> "Your mail to ... with the subject ... Is being held until the list
> moderator can review it for approval."
>
> I had cases where the moderator queue wasn't flushed for several
> months.
>
> Regards,
> Tino

Clearly a misconfiguration. The DAK and BTS should always be
whitelisted imho or at least the list moderators have to be quick
about it.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Compie ProFtpD on etch

2008-04-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:11:33PM -0700, sadsjon wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to compile in the correct paths
> pls?
> 

If you was using the proftpd source in main, that's automatically done.
You should add your own dpatch patch for mod_ban, at least until
it will be available a proftpd-dev package to build independently
other DSO modules (in 1.3.2).

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Re: Package maintenance in $HOME os an NFS share? (best practices survey)

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:48:26 +1000, Ben Finney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Or are you saying you find "I choose foo because of reason bar and
>baz" indistinguishable from "Use foo, it's superior anyway"?

At least if it's an answer to "How can I make bar do baz", yes.

Greetings
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Bug#477572: ITP: python-pymedia -- Python module for editing wav, mp3, ogg, avi, divx, dvd files

2008-04-23 Thread Mattia Oss
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mattia Oss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: python-pymedia
  Version : 1.3.7.3
  Upstream Author : Dmitry Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://pymedia.org/
* License : LGPL/GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Python module for editing wav,mp3,ogg,avi,divx,dvd files

PyMedia is a Python cross-platfrom library designed to make it easy to
write multimedia software, such as multimedia aware apps.
Small size makes it perfect for embedded mutlimedia software
development.

PyMedia is a Python module for wav, mp3, ogg, avi, divx, dvd, cdda etc
files manipulations. It allows you to parse, demutiplex, multiplex, decode
and encode all supported formats.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-6--bymattia (PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL 
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