Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Lennart,

Am 2008-04-04 12:44:38, schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
> Certainly archive.debian.org would have the last version of each release
> (so 2.2r5, 3.0r6, etc).

Thank you for this hint...

> The CDs would have had seperate (and different) Packages.gz since there
> would be one on each CD covering just what was on that CD.

Right, but if I have for example the Packages.gz fro 3.0r2
I can generate a new Packages.gz for the Mirror.

> Neat project.  I am not sure why being able to install 3.0r3 rather than
> 3.0r6 is necesarily very useful, but it is neat to have the choice.

Sometimes it can help to resolv errors if you upgrade from
one release to another.

> Unfortunate that debian of course only keeps the current version of a
> release on their servers, and archive.debian.org only ever archives the
> last version of a given release.

Yes unfortunately...

I think, this is WHY  can not realy run out
of Diskspace like my mirror

Maybe I ahave found a sponsor for a new cage of 15 drives since
currently it is an expensive hobby for me...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
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Are Sha* checksums accepted by dak ?

[Charles Plessy]

Dear all,

I made an upload this afternoon that was silently dropped.
( 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2008-April/001432.html
 )

After randomly checking some debian-devel-changes emails, it seems that
the accepted packages do not have the latest Sha checksums introduced by
dpkg. Are they cause of dropping ?

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Re: Are Sha* checksums accepted by dak ?

[Sebastian Dröge]

Am Donnerstag, den 10.04.2008, 18:02 +0900 schrieb Charles Plessy:
> Dear all,
> 
> I made an upload this afternoon that was silently dropped.
> ( 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2008-April/001432.html
>  )
> 
> After randomly checking some debian-devel-changes emails, it seems that
> the accepted packages do not have the latest Sha checksums introduced by
> dpkg. Are they cause of dropping ?

Yes, format 1.8 uploads are not accepted by the archive software for
some reason but generated as default by the dpkg which was uploaded to
unstable yesterday.

You should mails like the following though:
Rejected: gnome-games_2.22.1.1-1_i386.changes: unknown format '1.8'.



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Re: Are Sha* checksums accepted by dak ?

[Raphael Hertzog]

Hi,

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I made an upload this afternoon that was silently dropped.
> ( 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2008-April/001432.html
>  )
> 
> After randomly checking some debian-devel-changes emails, it seems that
> the accepted packages do not have the latest Sha checksums introduced by
> dpkg. Are they cause of dropping ?

The "Format: 1.8" in *.changes files is currently refused by dak.
This change was added two days ago by Joerg Jaspert (via Ryan Murray) to
avoid some broken *.changes files due to debsign not handling the new
Checksums-* fields.

Yesterday Joerg told us to go ahead with the dpkg upload as he
planned to fix dak in the evening. He did so but his patch is not yet
applied live on ftp-master... we're waiting for a full ftpmaster to
apply his patch.

So hold on or downgrade dpkg-dev to 1.14.16.6 for now.

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Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Peter Eisentraut]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: chkconfig
  Version : 10.3-90
  Upstream Author : Michael Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : system tool to enable or disable system services

Chkconfig is a utility to update and query runlevel information for system
services.  Chkconfig manipulates the numerous symbolic links in /etc/rc.d, to
relieve system administrators of some of the drudgery of manually editing the
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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Michael Biebl]

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: chkconfig
>   Version : 10.3-90
>   Upstream Author : Michael Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * License : GPL
>   Programming Lang: Perl
>   Description : system tool to enable or disable system services
> 
> Chkconfig is a utility to update and query runlevel information for system
> services.  Chkconfig manipulates the numerous symbolic links in /etc/rc.d, to
  ^^
There is no /etc/rc.d/ on Debian systems.

> relieve system administrators of some of the drudgery of manually editing the
> symbolic links.

What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf?

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Re: triggers wishlist [emacsen add-on packages]

[Agustin Martin]

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:31:36AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 30-Mar-08, 15:25 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger
> > support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on
> > a new version of dpkg.
> > 
> > Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order:
> 
> The various emacsen-related packages seem to cause multiple re-compiles
> during a single install run. It's not terribly slow, but it's sort of
> annoying.

[cc'ing debian-emacsen so people is aware of this thread]

I am not sure triggers are the right tool here, byte-recompilation can be
enabled by any of package-with-lisp or emacs-package upgrade/install.
emacs packages have no way of knowing at build time which packages-with-lisp
are to be installed, so I am not sure which would be the right triggers.
However, if there is a clean way of using triggers for this I would be
happy to be corrected.

On the other hand the main problem is, as others have pointed out, due to
the noise produced by the lack of a -no-init-file opton. Same byte-compilation
is done twice as much, and sometimes is done just once.

In the meantime I have been experimenting with a different approach. I think
the multiple byte-compilation problem can also be addressed with minor
changes in current behavior, something as shown below in some sort of
pseudo-code. '+' stands for the additional stuff

--
emacsen-remove: (Run from prerm)
  remove elcdir and its contents

emacsen-install: (Run from postinst)
  set -e
+  if -e elcdir/done
+skip
+  else 
 create elcdir
 Byte-compile files to elc dir
+touch elcdir/done
+  fi
-

So if byte-compilation succeeds a 'done' file is touched and its presence
can be used as a proof of that, so byte-compilation is not retried. On
package or emacs upgrade the elcdir is removed, so byte-complation is tried
again.

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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Paul Wise]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  > relieve system administrators of some of the drudgery of manually editing 
> the
>  > symbolic links.
>
>  What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf?

Compatibility with the brains of people who have moved to Debian from
RedHat and other RPM distros. I certainly missed it after 6 months of
administrating RedHat machines and moving back to Debian.

An /sbin/service compatibility script would be useful too.

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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Sune Vuorela]

On 2008-04-10, Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  > relieve system administrators of some of the drudgery of manually editing 
>> the
>>  > symbolic links.
>>
>>  What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf?
>
> Compatibility with the brains of people who have moved to Debian from
> RedHat and other RPM distros. I certainly missed it after 6 months of
> administrating RedHat machines and moving back to Debian.
>
> An /sbin/service compatibility script would be useful too.

#! /bin/sh

/etc/init.d/$1 $2

there you go with your /sbin/service script.

/Sune


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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Paul Wise]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  > An /sbin/service compatibility script would be useful too.
>
>  #! /bin/sh
>
>  /etc/init.d/$1 $2
>
>  there you go with your /sbin/service script.

Close.

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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Michael Biebl]

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2008 schrieb Michael Biebl:
>> What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf?
> 
> 1. chkconfig works solely on the command line.

sysv-rc-conf has both a command line interface and a ncurses based
interface.
I don't see, why command-line only should be an advantage.

> 
> 2. sysv-rc-conf is mostly unmaintained and broken for some (of my) practical 
> uses.

Do you have any references (e.g. bug numbers). sysv-rc-conf seems to
work fine for me.

> 
> 3. chkconfig is simpler and more convenient.

Could you elaborate on that.

sysv-rc-conf $service on|off

is very convenient and I'm not sure if it can be made any simpler.

> 4. chkconfig is well known for users coming from Red Hat and SUSE.

ok.

> 
> 5. chkconfig works well with the new insserv.

Could you elaborate on that? What's the problem with sysv-rc-conf and
insserv?

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Re: libcwd in Debian unstable

[Carlo Wood]

It was added 16 March, that is 3+ weeks ago! :/
So, debian-devel@lists.debian.org: can someone tell me why
libcwd was added as amd64 package, but still doesn't exist
as x86 package please?

taryn:~>uname -a
Linux taryn 2.6.22-1-686 #1 SMP Sun Jul 29 14:37:42 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
taryn:~>apt-cache policy libcwd

libcwd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:

hikaru:~>uname -a
Linux hikaru 2.6.22-3-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 09:22:35 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hikaru:~>apt-cache policy libcwd
libcwd:
  Installed: 1.0.1-1
  Candidate: 1.0.1-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.0.1-1 0
990 http://ftp.nl.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
500 http://ftp.nl.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:44:15PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.06.0300 +0200]:
> > Hmm, I guess. It's should be there for every platform.
> 
> Give it a few days. I am pretty sure this is related to some buildd
> problems.
> 
> If it isn't fixed in a few days, maybe consider writing to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] to find out what's going on?

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Re: libcwd in Debian unstable

[Michal Čihař]

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:44:50 +0200
Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It was added 16 March, that is 3+ weeks ago! :/
> So, debian-devel@lists.debian.org: can someone tell me why
> libcwd was added as amd64 package, but still doesn't exist
> as x86 package please?

Because it is non-free?

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Re: libcwd in Debian unstable

[Cyril Brulebois]

On 10/04/2008, Carlo Wood wrote:
> It was added 16 March, that is 3+ weeks ago! :/
> So, debian-devel@lists.debian.org: can someone tell me why
> libcwd was added as amd64 package, but still doesn't exist
> as x86 package please?

Because there are additional requirements for non-free packages to be
autobuilt. See the following announcement for more info.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/11/msg00012.html

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Bug#475477: ITP: liblucene-queryparser-perl -- Turn a Lucene query into a Perl data structure

[Dominic Hargreaves]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Dominic Hargreaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: liblucene-queryparser-perl
  Version : 1.04
  Upstream Author : Simon Cozens
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucene-QueryParser/
* License : Dual GPL/Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Turn a Lucene query into a Perl data structure

This module parses a Lucene query, as defined by
http://lucene.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/faq/faqmanager.cgi?file=chapter.search&toc=faq#q5

It deals with fields, types, phrases, subqueries, and so on; everything
handled by the SimpleQuery class in Lucene. The data structure is
similar to the one given above, and is pretty self-explanatory.

The other function, deparse_query turns such a data structure back into
a Lucene query string. This is useful if you've just been mucking about
with the data.



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Re: Are Sha* checksums accepted by dak ?

[Charles Plessy]

Le Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:02:07PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> 
> Yesterday Joerg told us to go ahead with the dpkg upload as he
> planned to fix dak in the evening. He did so but his patch is not yet
> applied live on ftp-master... we're waiting for a full ftpmaster to
> apply his patch.
> 
> So hold on or downgrade dpkg-dev to 1.14.16.6 for now.

Le Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:09:18AM +0200, Sebastian Dröge a écrit :
> 
> You should mails like the following though:
> Rejected: gnome-games_2.22.1.1-1_i386.changes: unknown format '1.8'.

Thanks for your prompt answers! Please keep us informed…

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Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

[Russ Allbery]

Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> #! /bin/sh
>
> /etc/init.d/$1 $2
>
> there you go with your /sbin/service script.

/sbin/service on Red Hat also sanitizes the environment, which I've found
very useful on occasion.  (And does so slightly more intelligently than
env -, I think.)

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python-sphinx or sphinx?

[Mikhail Gusarov]

Gentlemen,

I'm going to package tool called Sphinx (http://sphinx.pocoo.org/) -
documentation generator for Python projects.

In ITP (#474782) I chose package name to be 'python-sphinx', however
then the package will be thought as containing just python modules.

Is it ok to go ahead and use such generic package name as 'sphinx',
given the recentness of the package and it's (still) small userbase?

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Re: python-sphinx or sphinx?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:25:54AM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> 
> I'm going to package tool called Sphinx (http://sphinx.pocoo.org/) -
> documentation generator for Python projects.
> 
> In ITP (#474782) I chose package name to be 'python-sphinx', however
> then the package will be thought as containing just python modules.
> 
> Is it ok to go ahead and use such generic package name as 'sphinx',
> given the recentness of the package and it's (still) small userbase?
> 
The python-wxglade package is an application and not just modules.  That
is just one example.  Personally, I am ambivalent on the matter.

Regards,

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Bug#475493: ITP: python-pefile -- Portable Executable (PE) parsing module for Python

[Robert Edmonds]

Package: wnpp
Owner: "Robert S. Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: python-pefile
  Version : 1.2.9.1
  Upstream Author : Ero Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/pefile/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Portable Executable (PE) parsing module for Python

 pefile is a Python module to read and work with Portable Executable (PE)
 files. Most of the information in the PE header is accessible, as well as all
 the sections, section information and data.
 .
 All the basic PE file structures are available with their default names as
 attributes of the returned instance.
 .
 Processed elements such as the import table are made available with lowercase
 names, to differentiate them from the upper case basic structure names.
 .
 pefile has been tested against the limits of valid PE headers; that is,
 Windows malware. Lots of packed malware attempt to abuse the format beyond its
 standard use.
 .
 Some of the tasks that pefile makes possible are: 
  * Modifying and writing back to the PE image 
  * Header inspection 
  * Section analysis 
  * Retrieving data 
  * Warnings for suspicious and malformed values 
  * Packer detection with PEiD signatures 
  * PEiD signature generation

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Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2008

[wnpp]

The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 421 (new: 7)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 100 (new: 3)
Total number of packages requested help for: 43 (new: 2)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   libnss-lwres (#475089), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: no description
 Installations reported by Popcon: 232

   mffm-fftw (#474525), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: A C++ wrapper for the fftw.org C library (version 3)
 Reverse Depends: mffm-fftw-dev wsola wsola-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 125

   mffm-gtkclasses (#474522), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: GTK header files which make GUI implementation more
   trivial in C++
 Installations reported by Popcon: 19

   mffm-libsndfilew (#474523), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: wrapper for the libsndfile audio file handling library
 Reverse Depends: wsola-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 36

   mffm-timecode (#474528), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: c++ hierarchy which controls and describes time code
 Reverse Depends: wsola-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 15

   usepackage (#475090), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: utility to manage environment variables from within
   dotfiles
 Installations reported by Popcon: 49

   wsola (#474524), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: allows one to speed/slow audio without altering its
   pitch
 Reverse Depends: wsola-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 84

414 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   afnix (#475377), offered today
 Description: Compiler and run-time for the AFNIX programming
   language
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7

   plib (#475428), offered today
 Description: Portability Libraries
 Reverse Depends: fgfs-atlas flightgear plib1.8.4-dev plib1.8.4-pic
   simgear-dev stormbaancoureur supertuxkart torcs
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3460

   plib-doc (#475429), offered today
 Description: Portability Libraries Documentation and Examples
 Installations reported by Popcon: 35

97 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

[NEW] gnat-4.1 (#475369), requested today
 Description: help needed with bug triaging
 Reverse Depends: adabrowse adacontrol asis-programs gnade-bin
   gnat-4.1 gnat-gps libadasockets-dev libasis-dev libasis2005
   libaunit-dev (39 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 895

[NEW] gnat-4.3 (#475374), requested today
 Description: help needed to execute test cases
 Reverse Depends: gnat gnat-4.3 gnat-glade libgarlic-dev libgnat-4.3
   libgnat-4.3-dbg libgnatprj-dev libgnatprj4.3 libgnatprj4.3-dbg
   libgnatprj4.3-dev (6 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 64

   apache2 (#470795), requested 28 days ago
 Description: Co-maintainer wanted
 Reverse Depends: adzapper ampache apache2 apache2-dbg
   apache2-mpm-event apache2-mpm-itk apache2-mpm-perchild
   apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-mpm-worker apache2-prefork-dev (147 more
   omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 37929

   apt-build (#365427), requested 712 days ago
 Description: Need new developer(s)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1026

   ara (#450876), requested 151 days ago
 Description: utility for searching the Debian package database
 Installations reported by Popcon: 123

   athcool (#278442), requested 1262 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 261

   bash-completion (#472468), requested 17 days ago
 Description: programmable completion for the bash shell
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2694

   cfs (#458061), requested 104 days ago
 Description: Cryptographic Filesystem
 Installations reported by Popcon: 110

   cvs (#354176), requested 777 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage cvs2cl
   cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta cvsps (13 more
   omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 23376

   dctrl-tools (#448284), requested 166 days ago
 Description: Command-line tools to process Debian package
   information
 Reverse De