Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Because the last time you all did this it got all the way to deleting
> the packages and I had to run around and clean that up.  I'm asking you
> to give the maintainers a chance.  That's all.  Is it really that hard
> to do?

Isn't this what is happening right now?




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Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2008-01-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> cryptsetup is at least one binary in /sbin which depends on libgcrypt
> and libgpg-error. If i got it right, that should be enough to move the
> libs to /lib, correct?
>
> Maybe I should file withlist bugs, and stop building cryptsetup
> statically as soon as the libs have been moved...

Any news on this?

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Please don’t use merged-directories

2008-01-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 15 janvier 2008 à 15:32 +0100, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez a
écrit :
> On the other hand, I want to point an undesirable behaviour out: if you
> take a look at gnome-applications.menu or kde-applications.menu they
> place the merged-directories entry at the beggining of the file, that
> has a bad secondary effect: if you want to exclude a desktop file to
> appear in a menu branch you can not, as it will be include by the rest
> of the file.

In all cases, please don’t use merged-directories in Debian packages.
They has been half-broken from the very beginning (thanks to their
broken design), and we support it only for third-party packages.

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Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Anibal,

please write what actually changed, what the issue was about.

| bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
| 
|   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237

This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
"Something changed".

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Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:53:50PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > As per release goal, gnome 1.x won't be shipped in Lenny. I just started
> > a first round of bugs (severity important for now), with user/usertag
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/gnome-1.x-removal so that people
> > interested in that goal can track our progress.
> 
> Two thumbs up, thanks for pushing this. 
> 
> > Then I'll do some more runs of the same principle on other gnome 1.x
> > related libs until we got rid of them al.
> 
> If possible, libxml should be removed as well, most of the rev deps
> are gnome1-related and the few remaining packages could be fixed to
> use libxml2.

With my libxml1 and libxml2 maintainer hat on, I'd even say packages
using libxml1 are using a really buggy XML parser and really should be
fixed to use libxml2.

Mike


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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, January 16, 2008 10:13, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Hi Anibal,
>
>
> please write what actually changed, what the issue was about.
>
> | bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
> |
> |   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237
>
>
> This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
> "Something changed".

For all fairness, you cut out the rest of the changes below it, which
included the full Ubuntu changelogs where this refers to. It can be
debated if this is a nice style, but the information is there.


Thijs


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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Simon Huggins
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:26:00AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Wed, January 16, 2008 10:13, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > please write what actually changed, what the issue was about.
> > | bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > |
> > |   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237
> > This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
> > "Something changed".
> For all fairness, you cut out the rest of the changes below it, which
> included the full Ubuntu changelogs where this refers to. It can be
> debated if this is a nice style, but the information is there.

Without looking at the bug, can you tell which bit of that #456237
relates to then?

I thought best practice was to make sure from just the email that the
bug reporter could work out which bug was fixed and with what action.

Simon.

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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:26:00AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Wed, January 16, 2008 10:13, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > Hi Anibal,
> >
> >
> > please write what actually changed, what the issue was about.
> >
> > | bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > |
> > |   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237
> >
> >
> > This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
> > "Something changed".
> 
> For all fairness, you cut out the rest of the changes below it, which
> included the full Ubuntu changelogs where this refers to. It can be
> debated if this is a nice style, but the information is there.

Not entirely; this version incorporated some (but not all) of the
Debian/Ubuntu delta.  It's important to be specific.

When an Ubuntu package is resynchronized with Debian, the complete list of
changes is included in the changelog entry.  Ideally, the Debian changelog
would copy the same text when merging the changes, making it easy to confirm
what has or hasn't been merged.

For example:

x (vvv-1ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low

  * Merged with Debian. Changes are:
+ Modified build-dep on libfoo to build on edgy.
+ Added .desktop file.

More about our policies and procedures here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging

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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:

> On Wed, January 16, 2008 10:13, Peter Palfrader wrote:

> > | bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > |
> > |   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237
> >
> >
> > This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
> > "Something changed".
> 
> For all fairness, you cut out the rest of the changes below it, which
> included the full Ubuntu changelogs where this refers to. It can be
> debated if this is a nice style, but the information is there.

The other items were, well, other items at the same level as the one
quoted above.  If any or all of those items were indeed part of the
synchronisation then they should appear as items under the sync-entry.
The way it's written leads me to believe that anibal synchronised, then
bumped the standards-version, moved the hompage, and improved
crossbuilding, etc.

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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:58:19PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, January 16, 2008 10:13, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> 
> > > | bzip2 (1.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > > |
> > > |   * Synchronise with Ubuntu. Closes: #456237
> > >
> > >
> > > This says about nothing at all.  It gives me no more information than
> > > "Something changed".
> > 
> > For all fairness, you cut out the rest of the changes below it, which
> > included the full Ubuntu changelogs where this refers to. It can be
> > debated if this is a nice style, but the information is there.
> 
> The other items were, well, other items at the same level as the one
> quoted above.  If any or all of those items were indeed part of the
> synchronisation then they should appear as items under the sync-entry.
> The way it's written leads me to believe that anibal synchronised, then
> bumped the standards-version, moved the hompage, and improved
> crossbuilding, etc.

I think Thijs meant the changelog entries 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 and
1.0.4-0ubuntu2, which are not in the .changes.

Maybe it would be alright to say "Synchronize with Ubuntu (closes:
#foo)" IF #foo is a "please synchronise with Ubuntu bug" (similar to a
"new upstream version available" bug) AND you include the relevant
Ubuntu changelog entries in the changes via dpkg-buildpackage
-vlastversionbeforeubuntuchanges.  

Otherwise, elaborate on which bug gut fixed exactly and/or mention which
Ubuntu changes are still present.


Michael


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Re: Please write useful changelogs

2008-01-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Banck wrote:
> I think Thijs meant the changelog entries 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 and
> 1.0.4-0ubuntu2, which are not in the .changes.
> 
> Maybe it would be alright to say "Synchronize with Ubuntu (closes:
> #foo)" IF #foo is a "please synchronise with Ubuntu bug" (similar to a
> "new upstream version available" bug) AND you include the relevant
> Ubuntu changelog entries in the changes via dpkg-buildpackage
> -vlastversionbeforeubuntuchanges.  
> 
> Otherwise, elaborate on which bug gut fixed exactly and/or mention which
> Ubuntu changes are still present.

Ack.

And I'd like to express once more that's it's important to
have meaningful changelog entries for someone who has not done the work
and who has no corresponding debdiff.

We have (many) people reviewing debian-devel-changes and finding .changes
where the changelog entries do not mean anything is tiresome. That's why I
put a reminder in the developer news that I posted to d-d-a:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/12/msg7.html

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Bug#461084: ITP: gpe-announce -- gpe-announce: Alarm support for the G Palmtop Environment

2008-01-16 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: gpe-announce
  Version : 0.13
  Upstream Author : Joe McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nils
Faerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/download/source/
* License : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : gpe-announce: Alarm support for the G Palmtop Environment

Announces alarms set by gpe-calendar and gpe-clock to
the user in the G Palmtop Environment.

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Bug#461087: ITP: python-babel -- A collection of tools for internationalizing Python applications.

2008-01-16 Thread Christoph Haas
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: python-babel
  Version : 0.9.1
  Upstream Author : Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://babel.edgewall.org/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : A collection of tools for internationalizing Python 
applications.

Babel is composed of two major parts. First tools to build and work with
gettext message catalogs. Second a Python interface to the CLDR (Common
Locale Data Repository), providing access to various locale display
names, localized number and date formatting, etc. 

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Bug#461104: RFP: label -- Set or change label to partition disk

2008-01-16 Thread Rafael
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

--- Please fill out the fields below. ---

   Package name: label
Version: 
Upstream Author: [David Villa Alises <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
URL: [http://crysol.inf-cr.uclm.es/node/482]
License: [GPL]
Description: [Set or change label to partition disk]



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FTBFS due to 32-bit chroot on 64-bit machines without setting machine personality

2008-01-16 Thread Bryan Donlan
On Jan 16, 2008 3:57 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Package: piespy
> version: 0.4.0-2
> Severity: serious
> User: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Usertags: qa-ftbfs-20080115 qa-ftbfs
> Justification: FTBFS on i386
>
> Hi,
>
> During a rebuild of all packages in sid, your package failed to build on i386.
>
> Relevant part:
>
>  > dpkg-source: building piespy in piespy_0.4.0-2.dsc
>  >  debian/rules build
>  > dh_testdir
>  > cd lib && mkdir pircbot && cd pircbot && \
>  >  jar -xf ../pircbot.jar && \
>  >  find . -name '*.class' -exec rm {} ';' && \
>  >  javac `find . -name '*.java'` && \
>  >  jar -cf ../../pircbot.jar org
>  > ./org/jibble/pircbot/Colors.java:1: error: The type java.lang.Object 
> cannot be resolved. It is indirectly referenced from required .class files
[snip]
> The full build log is available from:
> http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2008/01/15
>
> A list of current common problems and possible solutions is available at
> http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/FTBFS . You're welcome to contribute!
>
> About the archive rebuild: The rebuild was done on about 50 AMD64 nodes
> of the Grid'5000 platform, using a clean chroot containing a sid i386
> environment.  Internet was not accessible from the build systems.

Hi,

This seems to be caused by the use of a 32-bit chroot on an amd64
system, without using the 'linux32' utility to set the proper machine
personality, according to
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg11584.html

Should I consider this a bug in piespy? In my opinion, it's more of a
bug in the rebuild project (or possibly pbuilder).

Thanks,

Bryan Donlan


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Bug#461112: ITP: kssh -- KDE front end to ssh

2008-01-16 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Morten Kjeldgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: kssh
  Version : 0.7
  Upstream Author : Andrea Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kssh
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : KDE front end to ssh
   Kssh is a KDE front-end to ssh. It can work as a standalone KDE
   application that launches ssh connections in a terminal window. It can
   also be used as a session inside KDE's konsole application. That means
   that in konsole, you can press the "New Session" button, and then select
   "Secure Shell". A dialog box lets you select the host and user, and
   optionally customize the connection.

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Architecture: i386 (i686)

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Re: FTBFS due to 32-bit chroot on 64-bit machines without setting machine personality

2008-01-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/01/08 at 12:16 -0500, Bryan Donlan wrote:
> On Jan 16, 2008 3:57 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Package: piespy
> > version: 0.4.0-2
> > Severity: serious
> > User: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Usertags: qa-ftbfs-20080115 qa-ftbfs
> > Justification: FTBFS on i386
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > During a rebuild of all packages in sid, your package failed to build on 
> > i386.
> >
> > Relevant part:
> >
> >  > dpkg-source: building piespy in piespy_0.4.0-2.dsc
> >  >  debian/rules build
> >  > dh_testdir
> >  > cd lib && mkdir pircbot && cd pircbot && \
> >  >  jar -xf ../pircbot.jar && \
> >  >  find . -name '*.class' -exec rm {} ';' && \
> >  >  javac `find . -name '*.java'` && \
> >  >  jar -cf ../../pircbot.jar org
> >  > ./org/jibble/pircbot/Colors.java:1: error: The type java.lang.Object 
> > cannot be resolved. It is indirectly referenced from required .class files
> [snip]
> > The full build log is available from:
> > http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2008/01/15
> >
> > A list of current common problems and possible solutions is available at
> > http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/FTBFS . You're welcome to contribute!
> >
> > About the archive rebuild: The rebuild was done on about 50 AMD64 nodes
> > of the Grid'5000 platform, using a clean chroot containing a sid i386
> > environment.  Internet was not accessible from the build systems.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This seems to be caused by the use of a 32-bit chroot on an amd64
> system, without using the 'linux32' utility to set the proper machine
> personality, according to
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg11584.html

Hi,

I'm using linux32.

I think that this bug was already determined to be a gcj-4.2 bug. (in a
different bug report)
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Bug#461115: ITP: carmetal -- dynamic geometry software

2008-01-16 Thread Yves Combe
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Yves Combe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: carmetal
  Version : 2.7.1
  Upstream Author : Eric Hakenholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://db-maths.nuxit.net/CaRMetal/
* License : GPL, LGPL
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : dynamic geometry software

 Based on the C.a.R. (Compass and Ruler) project, CaRMetal includes
all of its functionalities - or almost. It propose a different approach 
from the graphical interface point of view.
 Here's the C.a.R. presentation:
 - Ruler and compass constructions can be changed by dragging one of the 
basic construction points. The construction follows immediately. The 
student can check the correctness of the construction and gain new 
insight.
  - Tracks of points and animated constructions can help to understand 
geometric relations. Tracks can be used as new objects to explore.
  - With the macros of C.a.R. very complicated constructions become 
possible. Macros are also a way to organize the geometric thinking.
  - Hiding construction details and using colors make constructions 
clearer to read. In C.a.R. lines and circles can also be reduced to the 
relevant points.
  - Arithmetic computations, numerical solutions, curves and functions 
go beyond classical constructions. It is even possible to construct in 3D 
using advanced macros.
  - Other geometries, hyperbolic or elliptic, can be explored.

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Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping

Neil Williams wrote:

It could do with some sub-divisions, separating ITP from RFP etc.


turning on/off each type is now possible.




One very useful addition would be an internal search [..]


Filtering by project name and/or description is now possible.
An example filter would be

  "unicode -font"

All positive words have to match, all negative words must not.
Words starting with '+' or '-' are used this way:

  ++a -+a +-b --be.g. "perl --perl"


also a sync with BTS can be manually invoked now, link at the top.
check out the new version here:

   http://debian.binera.de/wnpp/



sebastian


PS: sorting is not cool yet. i plan to address this next.


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Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-16 Thread David Bremner
> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Pipping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sebastian> also a sync with BTS can be manually invoked now, link
Sebastian> at the top.  check out the new version here:

Sebastian> http://debian.binera.de/wnpp/

Looking better all the time. I would really like some (approximate)
popcon data myself, especially for orphaned packages.  But I'm like,
just this guy you know?

david


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Re: Bug#459403: libuuid1: missing depends on non-essential package passwd

2008-01-16 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:41:01AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I don't think "but we don't want to make adduser Priority: required" is
> > a good enough reason to add global static IDs; and passwd doesn't need
> > to be made Essential just because an Essential package depends on it
> > (Essential isn't closed under dependency).
> 
> The use case here was that passwd would be a dependency of a pre-dependency
> of an essential package, which does promote it into the effective essential
> set.

Well, I'm happy to make a request for a static ID, or not; do we have
a consensus here whether I should do this?

- Ted


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Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Neil Williams wrote:
>> Have you thought about not relying on a cron job but doing the whole
>> thing via the PHP SOAP interface? I'm using PHP and SOAP to query the
>> BTS for Emdebian.
>> http://www.emdebian.org/bugs.php
>> (code available in the Emdebian SVN repo)
>> http://buildd.emdebian.org/svn/browser/current/website/trunk/english
>
> yes, i have. i need some sort of cache here because i cannot
> send traffic for 1500 HTTP request per page view and also
> not wait for them to return.

You should actually be able to generate this page with two requests:

my @bugs = @{$soap->get_bugs(package=>'wnpp')->results()};
my $status_hash = $soap->get_status(@bugs)->results();


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2008-01-16 Thread Darya Radous
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Bug#461175: ITP: ukolovnik -- Simple todo manager using PHP and MySQL

2008-01-16 Thread Michal Čihař
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Michal Čihař" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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* Package name: ukolovnik
  Version : 0.9
  Upstream Author : Michal Čihař <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cihar.com/software/ukolovnik/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : Simple todo manager using PHP and MySQL

Ukolovnik is a simple todo manager written in PHP and using MySQL as
its backend. It does not provide multi-user functionality, just
everything you need for a personal todo list.

- -- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.23-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

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