Re: adduser/deluser on postinst

2007-08-03 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> gdm

 Fixed in SVN; thanks.

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Bug#435823: ITP: volpack -- fast volume rendering library

2007-08-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: volpack
  Version : 1.0b3
  Upstream Author : Philippe Lacroute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://graphics.stanford.edu/software/volpack/
* License : free (see below)
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : fast volume rendering library

 VolPack is a software library for fast, high-quality volume rendering with
 this features:
  * Renders data sampled on a regular, three-dimensional grid.
  * Supports user-specified transfer functions for both opacity and color.
  * Provides a shading model with directional light sources, multiple material
types with different reflective properties, depth cueing, and shadows.
  * Produces color (24 bits/pixel) or grayscale (8 bits/pixel) renderings,
with or without an alpha channel.
  * Supports arbitrary affine view transformations.
  * Supports a flexible data format that allows an arbitrary C structure to be
associated with each voxel.


License:

VolPack is covered by the following copyright notice:

Copyright (c) 1994 The Board of Trustees of The Leland Stanford
Junior University.  All rights reserved.

Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its
documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
that the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in
all copies of this software and that you do not sell the software.
Commercial licensing is available by contacting the author.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR OTHERWISE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY
WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


Thanks to  Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  some packaging
work was started.  I'm currently changing his work to enabling statically
and dynamically linked libraries.


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Bug#435842: O: anthy -- A Japanese input method (backend, dictionary and utility)

2007-08-03 Thread Masahito Omote
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

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I intend to orphan the anthy package. Because I cannot take enough time
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co-maintainer of this package in [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The package description is:
 Anthy is a Japanese input method working on X11 and emacs. It converts
 Hiragana text to Kana Kanji mixed text. It is implemented as a library
 and stores user's private information into their own home directory.
 Thus, Anthy is simple and secure (your information is protected from
 spoofing and snooping).

Regards,

Masahito Omote([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Bug#435838: ITP: cpm -- Console Password Manager

2007-08-03 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: cpm
  Version : 0.22beta
  Upstream Author : Harry Brueckner
* URL : http://www.harry-b.de/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=harry:cpm
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Console Password Manager
 This program is a ncurses based console tool to manage passwords and
 store them public key encrypted in a file - even for more than one
 person. The encryption is handled via GnuPG so the programs data can be
 accessed via gpg as well, in case you want to have a look inside. The
 data is stored as as zlib compressed XML so it's even possible to reuse
 the data for some other purpose.
 .
 The software uses CDK (ncurses) to handle the user interface, libxml2
 to store the information, the zlib library to compress the data and the
 library GpgMe to encrypt and decrypt the data securely.

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Bug#435847: ITP: pydoctor -- Python API document generator

2007-08-03 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: pydoctor
  Version : 2
  Upstream Author : Michael Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://codespeak.net/svn/user/mwh/pydoctor/
* License : custom
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Python API document generator

Pydoctor is a tool for generating API documentation for Python modules based
on their docstrings via static analysis.
 .
It was written primarily to replace epydoc for the purposes of the Twisted
project as epydoc has difficulties with zope.interface.


License:
   All Rights Reserved

Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both
that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting
documentation.

Git repository is currently here:
 https://honk.sigxcpu.org/git/debian-packages/pydoctor.git/
but it will move to git.debian.org. Several projects including twisted,
calendarserver and kiwi use it for generating their API documentation.
Cheers,
 -- Guido


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Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:15:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:13:38PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:54:49AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > > diversions are far from being atomic.
> > True, but it is persistent across upgrades and doesn't require any
> > particular support from the package.
> 
> Is it a bug (or a missing feature) that diversions aren't atomic?
> 
> The --rename option to dpkg-divert means it can be done atomically if
> dpkg-divert is clever enough, at least in all the ways that count.

  what is not atomic is that dpkg-divert will rename /bin/sh as
/bin/sh.real or whatever, and then the postinst will recreate the
symlink. Between those operations, you live without /bin/sh.

  dpkg-divert could make that atomicaly if it had an option
--replace-with which would take the name of the file to divert _and_ the
file to replace it with.

  That way, the diversion can be made with always a /bin/sh, if
dpkg-divert does that:

  ln /bin/sh /bin/sh.distrib
  mv /bin/dash.temporary /bin/sh

  having /bin/dash.temporary created before the call to dpkg-divert.
Sadly, afaict, there is no such option in dpkg-divert yet.

  Of course this would impose that all the arguments live in the same
directory (as they must be on the same device).

  OTOH I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.


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Re: needs=vc as menu field useful and needed?

2007-08-03 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007, Nico Golde wrote:

> > A lintian test for needs=vc programs that are not linked with svgalib
> > or directfb would be nice.
> 
> Oh that is a good idea. I will file a wishlist bug.

   Note that there are also framebuffer-only programs that directly use
the /dev/fbX device. At least fbi (which is not in your list and would
probably need needs=vc) and dvifb do so.

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Bug#435814: ITP: dictconv -- Dictconv convert a dictionay file type in another dictionary file type.

2007-08-03 Thread Francesco Namuri
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  Package name: dictconv
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Raul Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  URL : http://ktranslator.sourceforge.net/
  License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : Dictconv convert a dictionay file type in another 
dictionary file type.

Currently, it supports converting from Babylon glossaries, Freedict
dictionaries, Sdictionary dictionaries and Stardict dictionaries to 
DICT dictionaries, plain text dictionaries and StarDict dictionaries.
More file types will be added in new versions.
.
 Homepage: http://ktranslator.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Packaging a difficult project

2007-08-03 Thread Brendon Costa
Thanks for the response.

> 
> Hmm, I would question whether this is something we'd want to include in the
> Debian archive as-is; I think we already have way too many gcc packages
> being carried around with our releases and that we need to try to make this
> number go down, not add more copies of the gcc source code to the archive.
> 

Unfortunately including the GCC source is very difficult to avoid for
this package. I have had thoughts about trying to use GCC GEM (Which is
not in debian from what i can see) to implement the data analysis and
export as a "GCC Plugin", however that is a large undertaking and I am
not sure that GEM is well maintained. It would also require a special
GEM patched GCC to be installed as another package anyway.

Before undertaking the process of building the packages in a policy
conforming way, is it possible to know if there is much likelihood of
the packages being included in Debian?

>> The idea is that this patched GCC/Doxygen should be installed
>> "alongside" existing GCC/Doxygen versions and should not interfere with
>> them.
> 
>> Does anyone have suggestions as to how best I can tackle this problem in
>> a way that would be considered acceptable for inclusion in debian? The
>> current method works fine, but does not meet the debian policy requirements.
> 
> I would recommend that you look into the Debian diff for the gcc-4.1 source
> package, to see how putting the version number into the binary name is
> handled ("gcc-4.1", "cpp-4.1", ...).  The same could be done for edoc, which
> would be policy-compliant.
> 

Thanks for the tip. Would it be fine to use a format similar to that
used by cross compiler packages? E.g: "edoc-g++" This would also include
a directory /usr/edoc A similar package for comparison would be: mingw32

The mingw32 package installs i586-mingw32msvc-g++ ... and also has a
directory: /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/bin ...

Would this be considered suitable? If so is there any reason why some of
the i586-mingw32msvc-* binaries for the mingw32 package have hardlinks
into the /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/bin/ directory and others do not?

I would prefer to have hardlinks for all the binaries prefixed with
edoc-* if i were to format my package like this. Since it should be
possible for a user to set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH correctly and build
from the /usr/edoc/bin/ directories without requiring build tool prefixes.


> Since gcc-4.0 itself is no longer part of Debian (except for libgcc2 on
> hppa), you might even use the same naming scheme and have your package
> Conflicts/Replaces/Provides gcc-4.0, cpp-4.0, g++-4.0, and anything else
> needed.

The difficulty is that it is not really the same as GCC 4.0. It behaves
a little differently, uses much more memory and takes longer to compile.
I would not wish users to use the EDoc++ modified GCC without explicitly
knowing that they are doing so.

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate the help as this is my first
experience working with debian packages.
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Re: Final call for votes for "GR: Endorse the concept of Debian Maintainers"

2007-08-03 Thread Jurij Smakov
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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> [ 1 ] Choice 1: Endorse the concept of Debian Maintainers
> [ 2 ] Choice 2: Further discussion
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Re: Packaging a difficult project

2007-08-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steve Langasek:

> Hmm, I would question whether this is something we'd want to include in the
> Debian archive as-is; I think we already have way too many gcc packages
> being carried around with our releases and that we need to try to make this
> number go down, not add more copies of the gcc source code to the archive.

I believe that edoc doesn't use the code generator, only the front
end, so it doesn't need care from port maintainers.


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Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:13:38PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:54:49AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > diversions are far from being atomic.
> True, but it is persistent across upgrades and doesn't require any
> particular support from the package.

Is it a bug (or a missing feature) that diversions aren't atomic?

The --rename option to dpkg-divert means it can be done atomically if
dpkg-divert is clever enough, at least in all the ways that count.

Cheers,
aj, surprised it's not already atomic



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Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 06:24:52PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:15:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:13:38PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:54:49AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > > > diversions are far from being atomic.
> > > True, but it is persistent across upgrades and doesn't require any
> > > particular support from the package.
> > 
> > Is it a bug (or a missing feature) that diversions aren't atomic?
> > 
> > The --rename option to dpkg-divert means it can be done atomically if
> > dpkg-divert is clever enough, at least in all the ways that count.
> 
>   what is not atomic is that dpkg-divert will rename /bin/sh as
> /bin/sh.real or whatever, and then the postinst will recreate the
> symlink. Between those operations, you live without /bin/sh.
> 
>   dpkg-divert could make that atomicaly if it had an option
> --replace-with which would take the name of the file to divert _and_ the
> file to replace it with.
> 
>   That way, the diversion can be made with always a /bin/sh, if
> dpkg-divert does that:
> 
>   ln /bin/sh /bin/sh.distrib
>   mv /bin/dash.temporary /bin/sh
> 
>   having /bin/dash.temporary created before the call to dpkg-divert.
> Sadly, afaict, there is no such option in dpkg-divert yet.
> 
>   Of course this would impose that all the arguments live in the same
> directory (as they must be on the same device).
> 
>   OTOH I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.

Wasn't there a discussion a few weeks ago about having diversions be
handled by dpkg directly, through a diversions file in the package
control.tar.gz ? Or was it alternatives ?

Mike


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Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:15:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:13:38PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:54:49AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > > diversions are far from being atomic.
> > True, but it is persistent across upgrades and doesn't require any
> > particular support from the package.

> Is it a bug (or a missing feature) that diversions aren't atomic?

Maybe, but I'm not sure it can be fixed without the declarative diversions
that were mentioned on the list a bit back?

> The --rename option to dpkg-divert means it can be done atomically if
> dpkg-divert is clever enough, at least in all the ways that count.

This only lets you move /bin/sh to /bin/sh.frisbee as an atomic operation.
It doesn't let you create the new /bin/sh at the same time, that only
happens when the package is unpacked, which happens much later than the
preinst.

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Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

2007-08-03 Thread Joe Smith


"Julien BLACHE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've read that but I didn't take it into account because people google 
for
docs and they will find documentation recommending apt-get (they usually 
won't

notice if the doc is recent or not). Furthermore, there's also the fact
that on user forums there are people who will still be recommending
apt-get as it's what they are using.

So you might be right on your first assertion, but I don't agree with 
your

conclusion "If doc is the only problem, then it's not a problem".


When aptitude came out, we've been told that aptitude was the real apt
frontend that apt-get was never meant to be to begin with (apt-get
being only a debug/devel tool for libapt) and that it was the tool to
use from now on for everybody except maybe for advanced users who will
probably stick with apt-get.

Either this hasn't got enough publicity, or people decided to stick
with apt-get because aptitude didn't cut it.

The former case is easy enough to fix before October 1st; the latter
might not be that easy to fix, depending on the reasons behind the
dislike for aptitude.

Now, from the Debian users I know around me, I can tell you that none
of them like aptitude, and they especially dislike the "install
recommends by default" so-called "feature".

I am a Debian user in so far as I maintain 0 packages for Debian, and am not 
a DD.
I use aptitude almost exclusively. I install reccomends by default. I rarely 
have any reason to override that default.

Things just work.

I chose to use Aptitude because it worked and the dependency tracking 
feature was quite nice. (I'll admit that at the time, if you wanted an 
interactive package selector, your choices wre dselect, and aptitude. IIRC 
synaptic was not really in great shape at that time, and as you will learn 
form the rest of this message, would not have been appropriate even if it 
was in good working order.)
Besides I accepted that apt-get was really only ever a minimalistic 
front-end for the APT package management system. Aptitude is much fuller 
featured.


Some things to note about me though:
I have been using Linux for only ~3 years, and even on day one I was a 
poweruser. I did not have any UNIX experience, but I had DOS experience, so 
the command line did not scare me. I decided not to fear things breaking as 
that is merely an opertunaty to learn how to fix it. So besides a bit a 
playing with Knoppix, and tomsrtbt, I installed a virtual machine 
containning a command line only Debian sid. That is what I still use. Yes, I 
dove right in to sid and never looked back despite having only ~1-2 months 
of linux experience (and of that, most was only part-time experience).


I don't worry about breakage as it is not my production machine, and is 
command line only, so a good chunk of the breakage misses me completely.


My main OS is still Windows (unfortuantely), so I learned some commands and 
whatnot that way. (I do intend to eventually swap, and run a Linux system on 
the hardware (with a desktop environment), and Windows in a VM, but have not 
yet done so.)


As for why I chose Debian I honestlly don't rember. I belive it was because 
of hearing about the nice package management system. (Also, I had previously 
tried installing RedHat Linux on the metal of that laptop, and the results 
were awful. Problems with the video settings (X configuration issue I 
suspect), and an unsupported southbridge.) 




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Re: Packaging a difficult project

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:

> > Hmm, I would question whether this is something we'd want to include in the
> > Debian archive as-is; I think we already have way too many gcc packages
> > being carried around with our releases and that we need to try to make this
> > number go down, not add more copies of the gcc source code to the archive.

> I believe that edoc doesn't use the code generator, only the front
> end, so it doesn't need care from port maintainers.

Which was not my objection.  I understand and accept that edoc might not be
a very good compiler to use on all architectures, and don't think that
should be a reason to keep it out of the archive; my concern is that,
depending on which binary packages it needs to build, edoc could take up as
much as 1GB of space on our full mirrors, for something that should
effectively be a patch against gcc.

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Bug#435879: ITP: yum-metadata-parser -- A fast metadata parser for YUM

2007-08-03 Thread Le_Vert
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: yum-metadata-parser
  Version : 1.1.1
  Upstream Author : James Bowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Florian Festi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tambet Ingo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Paul Nasrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Seth Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Terje Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: C, Python
  Description : A fast metadata parser for YUM

C-based metadata parser python module to quickly parse XML metadata 
from YUM repository (RPMs) into sqlite databases.
.
 Homepage: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/

This python module is required to use newer createrepo (metadatas 
generators for RPM repository) releases.

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Bug#435881: ITP: atheme -- Portable Modular IRC Services

2007-08-03 Thread Bradley Smith
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Bradley Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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* Package name: atheme
  Version : 2.2.0
  Upstream Authors: nenolod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
gxti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.atheme.net/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Portable Modular IRC Services

  This package is a portable, secure set of open source, modular
  IRC services, designed to run on many IRCds.
  
  Unlike alternative packages, Atheme's core is minimalistic, providing 
  only core functionality. Atheme is a complete services set, excluding
  features designed for oper abuse.

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  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.21-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

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Bug#435884: ITP: rsyslog -- enhanced multi-threaded syslogd

2007-08-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: rsyslog
  Version : 1.18.0
  Upstream Author : Rainer Gerhards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.rsyslog.com
* License : GPL v2 or later
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : enhanced multi-threaded syslogd

Rsyslog is an enhanced multi-threaded syslogd supporting, amongst
others:
 * MySQL
 * syslog/tcp
 * RFC 3195
 * permitted sender lists
 * filtering on any message part
 * fine grained output format control
 * backup log destinations
.
It is quite compatible to stock sysklogd and can be used
as a drop-in replacement. 


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (300, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22.1
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash


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Re: Packaging a difficult project

2007-08-03 Thread Brendon Costa
> 
>> I believe that edoc doesn't use the code generator, only the front
>> end, so it doesn't need care from port maintainers.
> 

The GCC modification attempts to change as little in the GCC framework
as possible and just performs analysis on the data structures generated
by GCC as it compiles code. As such GCC still generates binaries. In
fact one of the data output formats (Which I assume will be the most
commonly used output format) for EDoc++ is to embed the EDoc++ specific
data into the binary files generated by GCC in an .edoc section in the
binary file (Which is later accessed using libbfd). This makes locating
data for post processing a much easier task.

As such the EDoc++ patched GCC still generates binaries and so it does
not just include the front end. However I have made it plain that to use
the resulting binaries is done so at the users risk as I can not
guarantee the integrity of the resulting binary files, simply because I
lack the man hours to do this. However with that said I have been using
them myself and not encountered any problems. Also I am unable to
maintain various system specific patches for GCC such as  Debian,
Fedora, NetBSD etc. Though I am not sure if these systems currently
require platform specific patches from the existing GCC sources.


> Which was not my objection.  I understand and accept that edoc might not be
> a very good compiler to use on all architectures, and don't think that
> should be a reason to keep it out of the archive; my concern is that,
> depending on which binary packages it needs to build, edoc could take up as
> much as 1GB of space on our full mirrors, for something that should
> effectively be a patch against gcc.
> 
EDoc++ binaries are currently around 20M. It does not require any
special binutils etc, but will just use what is already available for
the system. I am currently building a single non-policy conformant .deb
package.


Brendon.


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Re: Bug#435884: ITP: rsyslog -- enhanced multi-threaded syslogd

2007-08-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:12:50AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> * Package name: rsyslog
>   Version : 1.18.0
>   Upstream Author : Rainer Gerhards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.rsyslog.com
> * License : GPL v2 or later
>   Programming Lang: C
>   Description : enhanced multi-threaded syslogd
> 
> Rsyslog is an enhanced multi-threaded syslogd supporting, amongst
> others:

Why is rsyslog being multi-threaded interesting to our users?
Isn't that an internal implementation decision?

Hamish
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Bug#435915: ITP: mira -- Whole Genome Shotgun and EST Sequence Assembler

2007-08-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  Package name: mira
  Version : 2.8.2
  Upstream Author : Bastien Chevreux
  URL : http://chevreux.org/projects_mira.html
  License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Whole Genome Shotgun and EST Sequence Assembler

 The mira genome fragment assembler is a specialised assembler for
 sequencing projects classified as 'hard' due to high number of similar
 repeats. For expressed sequence tags (ESTs) transcripts, miraEST is
 specialised on reconstructing pristine mRNA transcripts while
 detecting and classifying single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNP)
 occuring in different variations thereof.
 .
 The assembler is routinely used for such various tasks as mutation
 detection in different cell types, similarity analysis of transcripts
 between organisms, and pristine assembly of sequences from various
 sources for oligo design in clinical microarray experiments.
 .
  Homepage: http://chevreux.org/projects_mira.html


Mira has been freed under the GPL last friday, I will try to package
it quickly to help it having a good start.

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Wako, Saitama, Japan
Debian-Med packaging team.


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Re: Bug#435884: ITP: rsyslog -- enhanced multi-threaded syslogd

2007-08-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 02:18:29PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:12:50AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > * Package name: rsyslog
> >   Version : 1.18.0
> >   Upstream Author : Rainer Gerhards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://www.rsyslog.com
> > * License : GPL v2 or later
> >   Programming Lang: C
> >   Description : enhanced multi-threaded syslogd
> > 
> > Rsyslog is an enhanced multi-threaded syslogd supporting, amongst
> > others:
> 
> Why is rsyslog being multi-threaded interesting to our users?
> Isn't that an internal implementation decision?
> 
As the "target" user for this sort of package is a sysadmin type, I
would saw it is an important enough detail that it should be in the
short description.

Regards,

-Roberto

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