Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 02:23:35PM +, William Pitcock wrote: > Audacious' direction. Gentoo's (mis)handling of PR during > this transitional time has resulted and several > lame attempts to find security holes in Audacious with the > explicit purpose of trying to get XMMS back. Unless I've got my timeframes wrong, there were a few successful attempts too. What's objectionable about people trying to find security flaws in your software, apart from their motivation for doing so? -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Targeting RPM and Debian from a Debian box?
Maybe using 'alien'? 2007/7/6, Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: \On 7/6/07, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My development workstation is running Debian, and I'd like to produce > > both .deb and .rpm releases of my software. > > > Is this something people normally do from the same Debian workstation, > > or do they typically fire up a RedHat system to do their .rpm creation, > > and use a Debian workstation to do their .deb creation? > > You'll have to use the appropriate OS to build packages for that OS. > Debian requires this as well in order to get things like shared library > dependencies right, to satisfy Build-Depends, and so forth. It makes > sense that RPM has the same issues. > > -- > Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) < http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> > Thanks everyone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Jon Dowland wrote: If a user removes the package themselves, even if they don't realise it, via a dependency chain with GTK 1.x or something similar, I don't have a great deal of sympathy. Did you ever heard about the multi-user concept? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Targeting RPM and Debian from a Debian box?
> >> Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > My development workstation is running Debian, and I'd like to produce > >> > both .deb and .rpm releases of my software. > On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:15:17PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > Maybe using 'alien'? This is an option only if your dependencies include hardly anything else than libc6, and even then you should build your package against an ancient libc. Generally, not the best idea for anything not self-contained. -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian
Le mercredi 11 juillet 2007 à 14:40 +, William Pitcock a écrit : > Architecturally, Audacious is much different than XMMS, it just sorta looks > like > XMMS, which I think sends the wrong message, but whatever. The fact is that we > do not consider ourselves to be an XMMS clone or an XMMS replacement, and you > should strongly consider that before removing XMMS and providing a transitive > upgrade path to audacious. > > I'm not asking much, just some sort of notification telling users that the > "replacement" they are installing is not really a replacement to XMMS, and as > such some "features" are implemented in a drastically different way. Whether you like it or not, audacious is a playlist-based audio player with support for many audio formats and funny plugins. This description sounds much like XMMS, which is why it can be considered a good replacement. As a user, I don't care about the architecture being different (apart from the bugs gone away). -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 23:02 -0500, Joseph Neal a écrit : > A substitute needs to be a simple library based player > that is scriptable and provides maximum exposure to the features of the > underlying libraries. If you find a piece of software that solves the eternal dilemma between features and simplicity, I'm sure this will interest thousands of software engineers in the world. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Bug#432912: ITP: libnet-sip-perl -- SIP handler Perl module
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rene Mayorga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnet-sip-perl Version : 0.30 Upstream Author : Steffen Ullrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~sullr/Net-SIP-0.30/ * License : Artistic/GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description : SIP handler Perl module Long Description: Net::SIP module provides a tool to write SIP endpoints (e.g phones, answer machines), SIP proxies and registrars. . Homepage: http://search.cpan.org/~sullr/Net-SIP-0.30/ -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.18.3-ch2.0 (PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 20.04:38 Russ Allbery wrote: > Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Slapd may require an > > external SQL server if a suitable backend is defined, and I guess that > > a whole slew of other applications have similar problems. > > You should require everything you might use directly using the > Should-Start stanza, which says that you should start after those > services if anything provides them but that not having them available > isn't an error. Hmmm. With slapd, for example, it's certainly possible where one scenario (slapd uses SQL database) directly contradicts another scenario (startup of SQL database uses auth info which is provided by slapd). Not sure how a packager should deal with this. (slapd being used only as an example. Other scenarios for other services are certainly possible.) cheers -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 07:18:17AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Tuesday 10 July 2007 20.04:38 Russ Allbery wrote: > > Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Slapd may require an > > > external SQL server if a suitable backend is defined, and I guess that > > > a whole slew of other applications have similar problems. > > You should require everything you might use directly using the > > Should-Start stanza, which says that you should start after those > > services if anything provides them but that not having them available > > isn't an error. > Hmmm. With slapd, for example, it's certainly possible where one scenario > (slapd uses SQL database) directly contradicts another scenario (startup of > SQL database uses auth info which is provided by slapd). > Not sure how a packager should deal with this. (slapd being used only as an > example. Other scenarios for other services are certainly possible.) Well, the OpenLDAP maintainers are likely to deal with this by declaring that a SQL server that needs to read auth info out of LDAP for startup is not supported, and the admin is on their own for making this work. All Debian system accounts should be stored in the nss_files backend, where adduser will put them by default. If your system accounts are in LDAP, you're making your system deliberately fragile, and I see no reason for Debian to make that easier to do. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Work-needing packages report for Jul 13, 2007
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 393 (new: 3) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 85 (new: 1) Total number of packages requested help for: 40 (new: 1) Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. The following packages have been orphaned: freetype1 (#432579), orphaned 2 days ago Description: FreeType 1 libs, tools Reverse Depends: dvi2ps eterm freetype1-tools gfontview libft-perl libttf-dev pike7.6-image spawg spawx11 tex-guy (9 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 9749 kernel-patch-grsecurity2 (#432853), orphaned today Installations reported by Popcon: 89 xmms-midi (#432055), orphaned 6 days ago Description: MIDI plugin for XMMS Installations reported by Popcon: 926 390 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list. The following packages have been given up for adoption: ipmitool (#432027), offered 6 days ago Description: utility for IPMI control with kernel driver or LAN interface Installations reported by Popcon: 429 84 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list. For the following packages help is requested: [NEW] elvis (#432298), requested 3 days ago Reverse Depends: elvis elvis-console elvis-tools Installations reported by Popcon: 257 aboot (#315592), requested 749 days ago Description: Alpha bootloader: Looking for co-maintainers Reverse Depends: aboot aboot-cross dfsbuild ltsp-client-core Installations reported by Popcon: 98 apt-build (#365427), requested 439 days ago Description: Need new developer(s) Installations reported by Popcon: 803 apt-cacher (#403584), requested 206 days ago Description: caching proxy system for Debian package and source files Installations reported by Popcon: 355 apt-show-versions (#382026), requested 338 days ago Description: lists available package versions with distribution Installations reported by Popcon: 2860 athcool (#278442), requested 989 days ago Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors Installations reported by Popcon: 289 cdw (#398252), requested 242 days ago Description: Tool for burning CD's - console version Reverse Depends: cdw gcdw Installations reported by Popcon: 250 cvs (#354176), requested 504 days ago Description: Concurrent Versions System Reverse Depends: bonsai crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage cvs2cl cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta (17 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 18783 dpkg (#282283), requested 964 days ago Description: dselect: a user tool to manage Debian packages Reverse Depends: alien alsa-source apt-build apt-cross apt-src backuppc build-essential bzr-builddeb clamsmtp crosshurd (87 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 56372 dsniff (#430162), requested 20 days ago Description: Various tools to sniff network traffic for cleartext insecurities Installations reported by Popcon: 969 foo2zjs (#429872), requested 22 days ago Description: Support for printing to ZjStream-based printers Installations reported by Popcon: 560 gentoo (#422498), requested 67 days ago Description: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager Installations reported by Popcon: 275 gpsdrive (#406522), requested 182 days ago Description: Car navigation system Installations reported by Popcon: 432 grub (#248397), requested 1158 days ago Description: GRand Unified Bootloader Reverse Depends: dfsbuild replicator Installations reported by Popcon: 51176 gtkpod (#319711), requested 718 days ago Description: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod Installations reported by Popcon: 796 ispell-et (#391105), requested 281 days ago Description: Estonian dictionary for Aspell/Ispell/MySpell Installations reported by Popcon: 31 kradio (#429873), requested 22 days ago Description: Comfortable Radio Application for KDE Installations reported by Popcon: 243 lighttpd (#401575), requested 220 days ago Description: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint Reverse Depends: lighttpd-mod-cml lighttpd-mod-magnet lighttpd-mod-mysql-vhost lighttpd-mod-trigger-b4-dl lighttpd-mod-webdav Installations reported by Popcon: 717
