Re: [Ticket#: 2007051110000019] Fwd: Linux-Debian Chat Messenger Retroshare ( [...]

[Conny Kramer]

Hello,
there is a package for a serverless Linux Chat Messenger.
Can you add it? I cannot do that.
See the text below.
Thanks.

> >  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:51:01 +0200
> > An:  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > Betreff: Linux-Debian Chat Messenger Retroshare (serverless IM)
> > 
> > Hello,
> > the new serverless Instant Chat Messenger Retroshare for Linux Release
> > is out. Every Chat it private and encrypted. It offers:
> > - Instant Messener p2p List
> > - serverless Chat
> > - Groupchat
> > - secure and spomfree Email
> > - File Sharing, 
> > - Encryption and Security
> > - a good way for Chinese people to communicate for free speech
> >   ( http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/cn_index.html )
> > - Debian etch & sarge installers, as well Linux installer scripts
> > - available in more then 15 languages (chinese simple and trad, jap,
> > korea as well)
> > - as well a Windows installer is available.
> > 
> > Can anyone put this into the debian distribution? 
> > 
> > http://retroshare.sf.net
> > http://content.emule-project.net/view.php?pid=1681
> > 
> > Download Linux Installer:
> > http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/en_download.html
> > 
> > or here:
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=retroshare
> > 
> > The buddies are not lost in a new online session, the IP Adress of the
> > friend/buddy is found again, as it it a web o trust (see here:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust ) with a DHT.
> > 
> > Any test feedback?
> > -- 
> > 
> >  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:20:49 -0400
> > Von: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Re: Linux-Debian Chat Messenger Retroshare (serverless IM)
> > 
> > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:51:01PM +0200, Conny Kramer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > the new serverless Instant Chat Messenger Retroshare for Linux Release
> is
> out. Every Chat it private and encrypted. It offers:
> > > 
> > > Can anyone put this into the debian distribution? 
> > If you or anyone wants to get this into Debian, you can create a debian
> > package and look for a sponsor in Debian. The easiest way is to contact
> > folks on the debian-mentors.net site. You can also see if anyone in
> > Debian wants to do it by making an RFP (request for packaging) bug
> > report in Debian. Consult google about 'rfp debian'.
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Datum: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:08:31 +0200 (CEST)
Von: "mentors.debian.net support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [Ticket#: 200705111019] Fwd: Linux-Debian Chat Messenger 
Retroshare ( [...]

> Hi, 
>
> > can you package it into the distro?
> > I cannot do it, and need (not advice, but) someone, who is doing it
> > fully.
> 
> We are the support team of a service that supports sponsoring packages
> (which
> is the way many packages get into Debian). But we don't maintain Debian
> packages ourselves. Please read the sponsorship FAQs on mentors.debian.net
> or
> consult the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Regards
>  Christoph (on behalf of the mentors support team)
> 
> P.S.: Please keep the ticket ID in the subject of your reply.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira]
> What do you think?
> We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop

Great idea.  Perhaps the stuff in the debian-edu-artwork package can
be of help?  We have one skilled designed working with us at the
moment, and I hope he will manage to improve our artwork in the near
future.

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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Alexander Schmehl]

Hi!

* Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070509 23:12]:
> > What do you think? 
> > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop
> Hmh, a nice idea would be to add preview thumbnails next to each item,
> because clicking on each one to see full screenshot can be quite
> annoying.

And perhaps download without javascript?  e.g. when searching for
wallpapers I tend to open many in new tabs with the middle mouse buttont
and review them later.  I find it *very* annoying, to later just see
some javascript stuff in my tab.

Yours sincerely,
  Alexander


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Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

[Stefan Hornburg]

Hello,

I just got a bug on pure-ftpd (#423455). Someone else uploaded a broken NMU, now pure-ftpd is 
unstallable. My problem now is who did the upload and with what purpose, because it is not 
listed in package tracking system, and apt-get source only downloads 1.0.21-8.


Any idea what happened ?

Regards
Racke


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Re: Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

[Adeodato Simó]

* Stefan Hornburg [Sat, 12 May 2007 13:59:19 +0200]:

> Hello,

Hi Stefan,

> I just got a bug on pure-ftpd (#423455). Someone else uploaded a broken NMU, 
> now pure-ftpd is unstallable. My problem now is who did the upload and with 
> what purpose, because it is not listed in package tracking system, and 
> apt-get source only downloads 1.0.21-8.

> Any idea what happened ?

Yes, please have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU. Also, when you
upload a new version to fix this uninstallability, it's a good opportunity
to make your package binNMUable so that this does not happen again.
(There are tips on the linked page about how to do it, and lintian will
warn you if it's still not binNMUable.)

Thanks,

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Re: Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

[Adeodato Simó]

* Neil Williams [Sat, 12 May 2007 13:14:13 +0100]:

> Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

> Should be :
> Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= ${binary:Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}
 ^^
 Should be ${source:Version}. pure-ftpd-common is arch:all.

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Re: Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

[Neil Williams]

On Sat, 12 May 2007 13:59:19 +0200
Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just got a bug on pure-ftpd (#423455). Someone else uploaded a broken NMU, 
> now pure-ftpd is
> unstallable. My problem now is who did the upload and with what purpose, 
> because it is not
> listed in package tracking system, and apt-get source only downloads 1.0.21-8.
>
> Any idea what happened ?

pure-ftpd is not binary NMU safe:

Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

Should be :
Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= ${binary:Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

i.e. the original fault is in pure-ftpd, it just took a binary NMU to reveal it.

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binNMUs and version dpkg-dev dependency

[Daniel Leidert]

Hi,

The thread about the binNMU for pure-ftpd brought up a question for me:
Is it still necessary/suggested/recommended to use a versioned
build-dependency dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.19) when using ${binary:Version} or
${source:Version}? Etch, Lenny and Sid all have the necessary version.
So can this build-dependency be dropped in packages using it?

Regards, Daniel


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Re: binNMUs and version dpkg-dev dependency

[Luk Claes]

Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Hi,

Hi

> The thread about the binNMU for pure-ftpd brought up a question for me:
> Is it still necessary/suggested/recommended to use a versioned
> build-dependency dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.19) when using ${binary:Version} or
> ${source:Version}? Etch, Lenny and Sid all have the necessary version.
> So can this build-dependency be dropped in packages using it?

Yes, it is not needed anymore and can be dropped.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

[Stefan Hornburg]

Adeodato Simó wrote:

* Neil Williams [Sat, 12 May 2007 13:14:13 +0100]:


Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}



Should be :
Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= ${binary:Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

 ^^
 Should be ${source:Version}. pure-ftpd-common is arch:all.



I changed that and uploaded new packages. Thanks for you quick help!

Regards
Racke


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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Nico Golde]

Hallo Alexander,

* Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-12 16:59]:
> * Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070509 23:12]:
> > > What do you think? 
> > > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop
> > Hmh, a nice idea would be to add preview thumbnails next to each item,
> > because clicking on each one to see full screenshot can be quite
> > annoying.
> 
> And perhaps download without javascript?  e.g. when searching for
> wallpapers I tend to open many in new tabs with the middle mouse buttont
> and review them later.  I find it *very* annoying, to later just see
> some javascript stuff in my tab.

If you open the site for the specific image, there is a 
direct link to it so you can open it in a tab there.
Maybe that helps, but I agree, having the direct download on 
the index page would be better.
Kind
regards
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apparently-corrupted-elf-binary lintian problems on recent sid and amd64

[Enrico Zini]

Hello,

I have a package that built fine in June 2006 but when I rebuild it now
in my up to date pbuilder sid chroot gives me the lintian error
"apparently-corrupted-elf-binary".

Two things changed since June 2006: the contents of sid and the
architecture of my computer, which was i386 and now is amd64.

I don't know how to get to the end of this, so I ask for help.

You can get the source package with a simple apt-get source scim-chewing

I'm tring to build version -2 for upload, but it's giving me this
problem.  Since the changes are very minor, the problem can be
reproduced with the -1 version that is in Debian now.

What's going on?  How can I build this thing correctly here?


Ciao,

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Re: CDD: GastroLinux (RFC)

[RalfGesellensetter]

Am Freitag 11 Mai 2007 15:58 schrieb Christian Surchi:
> Here I know two pubs, at least, using a pc with ubuntu as jukebox.
> Just a desktop with xmms or rhythmbox. :)

Gorgeous, just make them display some penguin all the while ;)

Cheers
R*


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Re: Fixing up SELinux reference policy for Debian

[Erich Schubert]

Hi Manoj,
Thanks for the work on getting SELinux strict working!
Are you using an initrd and/or udev in your UML?

> I think we need to create debian specific policy changes to
>  allow searching /var, /var/lib. and /var/lib/dpkg.  We also read file
>  permissions on files in /var/lib/dpkg; and these need to be added to a
>  generic user.

IMHO that is okay.

> After that, I need to start branching out, and adding, say,
>  apache2 servers to my UML, and checking validity of strict policy.

We'd also need people to work on e.g. an exim and a tomcat policy.

> Given the magnitude of these changes, I am planning on trying to
>  do a backport of SELinux packages for Etch, at least, for the current
>  release, before the kernel requirements diverge too much.

I'm with you on that. We really should provide backports to offer
powerful SELinux support for etch. There are just too many small issues
with etch that break it one place or another.
(Such as liblzo breaking openvpn; http://bugs.debian.org/336138 )
We should try to get SELinux *strict* on etch into shape so people can
use it on firewalls (including openvpn and IPSec), common mail and web
server setups with little effort (well, lets say 'without cgi and
complex PHP things' because that is an endless field then).
Maybe propose them for a maintainance release even.

best regards,
Erich Schubert
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Re: Re: Did the number of installations really increase by a half in one month?

[Philippe Cloutier]

Ah, dammit. Thanks anyway :-P


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Getting Debian to use less power?

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

Today Intel announced the powertop tool to report which process in a
Linux system is consuming most power.  Check out
http://www.linuxpowertop.org/> for the tool, and my RFP in
#423504.

Running this tool on my IBM Thinkpad X41 with Debian/Etch, the tool
report my power consumption to be 23.1 W and 99% of the time is spent
in CPU state C0.  I also tested the same program on a Fujitsu Siemens
Amilo M1450 laptop running Ubuntu Edgy, and on this laptop 99% of the
time there is spent in CPU state C2.  I do not get any information on
power consumption, so I can't compare that.

The tool is said to work better if the kernel is compiled with
CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, and if the kernel is using the NO_HZ option
available in linux 2.6.21.

The web page for the tool includes patches for among other things the
kernel, gaim, firefox to get them to waste less CPU and thus reduce
power consumption.  Keith Packard is sited as having been able to
increase his laptops battery lifetime from 4 to 7 hours by using
powertop to guide the improvements.

Have a look.  I would be trilled if Debian could implement all the
tricks to increase battery lifetime, and make sure our users save both
the environment and their power bill.

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Re: Getting Debian to use less power?

[Andreas Tille]

On Sat, 12 May 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


Have a look.  I would be trilled if Debian could implement all the
tricks to increase battery lifetime, and make sure our users save both
the environment and their power bill.


... and can longer sit outside with their laptop when developing
Debian GNU/Linux.

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Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

[Bill Allombert]

On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:41:32AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from
> apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since
> etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access
> merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. According to popcon, 3% of all
> Debian users install apt-listbugs. Let me add three simplifications to
> the equation.
> 
> (A) popcon models Debian user installation behavior reasonably well. 
> 
> (B) A unique IP represents a single system (Even though DHCP may
> change IP address over a month's period, NAT may share IP addresses).
> 
> (C) All users are using Debian etch, lenny, or sid. 

You cannot accept both A and C at the same time:
according to popcon, 64% use Etch, 18% use testing/sid, and 18% use
something else (14.4% old testing snapshots, 4% Sarge and 0.6% Woody)
but the data are strongly biaised toward recent releases, so the number
of Sarge install remaining is probably much higher than 4%.

> I can assume there are 1,000,000 Debian users worldwide. Does this
> number sound big or small to you?

I would expect at least 10 millions computers running Debian.
(My own estimate is 225 millions but it seems a bit much).

In other news, it seems we have already passed the peak for Etch.

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Re: Getting Debian to use less power?

[Carlo Segre]

On Sat, 12 May 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:



The tool is said to work better if the kernel is compiled with
CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, and if the kernel is using the NO_HZ option
available in linux 2.6.21.


Will these options be enabled in 2.6.21?  In 2.6.20, CONFIG_TIMER_STATS is 
not and renders the program of limited utility on my laptop.


Cheers,

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[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

I would like to backport SELinux related packages to Etch, and
 thus would like to get my key into the backports key ring.What do I
 need to do to enable that?

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 11017 March 1977, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> I would like to backport SELinux related packages to Etch, and
>  thus would like to get my key into the backports key ring.What do I
>  need to do to enable that?

How about not writing mail addresses in the subject but in the To line
of your mail? That might help.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Alexander Wirt]

Manoj Srivastava schrieb am Samstag, den 12. Mai 2007:

Hi Manoj, 

> I would like to backport SELinux related packages to Etch, and
>  thus would like to get my key into the backports key ring.What do I
>  need to do to enable that?
Use the website, 
use the mailinglist. 

But why do you use -devel? Backports.org has nothing to do with debian-devel. 
And maybe it would be usefull to have one of us, or even both in CC.

I added your key. 

Alex


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Re: apparently-corrupted-elf-binary lintian problems on recent sid and amd64

[Jose Luis Rivas Contreras]

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Enrico Zini escribió:
> I'm tring to build version -2 for upload, but it's giving me this
> problem.  Since the changes are very minor, the problem can be
> reproduced with the -1 version that is in Debian now.
> 
> What's going on?  How can I build this thing correctly here?

Hey,

I built your package adding a `*/' in lines 85 and 86 of `debian/rules'
before of `*.[a|la]'. I got a lintian and linda clean package. Maybe
that's your problem.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tests/scim-chewing$ lintian -i
/var/cache/pbuilder/result/scim-chewing_0.3.1-1_i386.deb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tests/scim-chewing$ linda -i
/var/cache/pbuilder/result/scim-chewing_0.3.1-1_i386.deb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tests/scim-chewing$

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Luis Matos]

Dom, 2007-05-13 às 00:43 +0200, Tim Dijkstra escreveu:
> On Wed, 9 May 2007 17:49:18 -0300
> "André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > The user can put the follows categories:
> > - Wallpaper
> > - Splash screen
> > - Icon
> > - System sound
> > - Logo
> > - Usplash
> > - T-shirt
> > - Screenshot
> > - Generic
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop
> 
> It would be nice if someone could make some nice splash themes for
> splashy;) It supports different splash screens during boot, shutdown,
> hibernate and resume.
> 

wasn't these made before etch? based on the more-blue theme?

in releated note, andre are you available to update debian more-blue's
splsh screen into something more round, like the login screen (and
whitier)?

> grts Tim


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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Tim Dijkstra]

On Wed, 9 May 2007 17:49:18 -0300
"André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> The user can put the follows categories:
> - Wallpaper
> - Splash screen
> - Icon
> - System sound
> - Logo
> - Usplash
> - T-shirt
> - Screenshot
> - Generic
> 
> What do you think?
> We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop

It would be nice if someone could make some nice splash themes for
splashy;) It supports different splash screens during boot, shutdown,
hibernate and resume.

grts Tim


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Luk Claes]

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to backport SELinux related packages to Etch, and
>  thus would like to get my key into the backports key ring.What do I
>  need to do to enable that?

Send a message to the Subject you used :-)

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

[Tim Dijkstra]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:50:02 +0100
Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dom, 2007-05-13 às 00:43 +0200, Tim Dijkstra escreveu:
> > On Wed, 9 May 2007 17:49:18 -0300
> > "André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The user can put the follows categories:
> > > - Wallpaper
> > > - Splash screen
> > > - Icon
> > > - System sound
> > > - Logo
> > > - Usplash
> > > - T-shirt
> > > - Screenshot
> > > - Generic
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop
> > 
> > It would be nice if someone could make some nice splash themes for
> > splashy;) It supports different splash screens during boot, shutdown,
> > hibernate and resume.
> > 
> 
> wasn't these made before etch? based on the more-blue theme?
> 
> in releated note, andre are you available to update debian more-blue's
> splsh screen into something more round, like the login screen (and
> whitier)?

I don't think we have a consistent screen for suspend/resume.

grts Tim


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Re: CDD: GastroLinux (RFC)

[charles-debian-nospam]

Le Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:41:41PM +0200, RalfGesellensetter a écrit :
> Dear list,
> 
> Custom Debian Distributions are getting en vogue: After Debian-Edu 
> (Skolelinux) and Debian-Med, Debian-Office had been proposed.
> 
> Now, I bear this idea in mind:
> 
> Combine too major tasks that pubs and restaurants need in one Distro:

Hi Ralf,

Beware that in (at least fr_FR) french, "gastro" is also a shortcut for
"gastroenteritis" and is strongly associated with its symptoms! It may
really hamper your success in french-speaking countries...

Have a nice day,

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Wako, Saitama, Japan


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Re: Bug#423365: question about #418098

[Charles Plessy]

Le Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:51:08AM +0200, Olaf Zaplinski a écrit :
> Package: general
> 
> On http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418098 Laszlo says that 
> the fixed rdesktop will not be released before Etch r1. Is that true? If 
> yes, this would be definitely a "general bug". It would mean that I had to 
> replace Debian by e.g. Redhat because I have to administer several Windows 
> servers. A non-functional rdesktop is a no-go IMHO.
> 
> Can you confirm that?

Dear Olaf,

If I understand correctly the Debian Developper's Reference (5.5.1), if
the stable release team accepts the update, the package would be
available in stable-proposed-updates before inclusion in the next point
release.

Have a nice day,

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Bug#423579: ITP: libsupertone -- library for supervisory tone generation and detection

[Santiago Ruano Rincón]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Santiago Ruano Rincón" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libsupertone
  Version : 0.0.2~pre20060205
  Upstream Author : Steve Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.soft-switch.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : library for supervisory tone generation and detection

This library is designed to support supervisory tone generation and
detection for all parts of the world.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=es_CO.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_CO.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Re: Getting Debian to use less power?

[Matthew Garrett]

Carlo Segre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will these options be enabled in 2.6.21?  In 2.6.20, CONFIG_TIMER_STATS is 
> not and renders the program of limited utility on my laptop.

2.6.20 doesn't support dynamic HZ, so your system will be waking up at 
least HZ times a second anyway. You need 2.6.21 for this to be any 
practical use.

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