Re: Bug#420249: ITP: thom -- A Thomson TO7-70 Emulator

2007-04-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 06:39:33AM +0200, Jeremie Corbier wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Jeremie Corbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>  * Package name: thom
>Version : 1.5.5
>Upstream Authors: Eric Botcazou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  * URL : http://nostalgies.thomsonistes.org/
>  * License : GPL
>Programming Lang: C
>Description : A Thomson TO7-70 Emulator
> 
>  The Thomson TO7-70 is a computer which was widely used in French schools in
>  the 80s.
>  .
>  This package provides an emulator capable of running most of the softwares 
> that
>  were available for the original hardware.

Do these two emulators come with free ROMs and other free software to
run in the emulated environment?



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Re: Planned DebPool features

2007-04-21 Thread Andreas Fester
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> http://wiki.debian.org/DebPoolResurrected
> 
>> I for sure missed many topics, so contributions are welcome :)
> 
> For instance: What exactly is debpool? Who needs it? What is the
>  planned scope? The wiki assumes every reader knows all there is to know
>  about the context.

This is for sure still missing; however, the main issue is that I
choose the wrong mailing list :( It should have gone to debpool-devel ...

Best Regards,

Andreas

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Re: Planned DebPool features

2007-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:21:16PM +0200, Andreas Fester wrote:
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> I have started to create a wiki page with the topics I found in
> the mailing discussions so far:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebPoolResurrected

Given that we don't have a "DebPool" page on the wiki I wonder why it
should be named "DebPoolResurrected" ..

If there are no objection I suggest to rename the page to DebPool and
then add something "we are currently resurrecting the old debpool"
somewhere in the page.

Cheers.

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Re: Send ITPs to debian-l10n-english?

2007-04-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 07:15:14AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> I wonder whether it would be good to systematically send ITP mail to
> debian-l10n-english so that people in that list can review the
> packages' descriptions.

I'd rather not do this, but instead encourage interested people to
PTS-subscribe to the wnpp package.

Greetings
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Re: Send ITPs to debian-l10n-english?

2007-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 07:15:14AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> I wonder whether it would be good to systematically send ITP mail to
> debian-l10n-english so that people in that list can review the
> packages' descriptions.

I usually ask for comments from native English speaker when submitting
ITPs, but such requests of mine get read only on -devel. I would
personally be more than happy to get feedback from -l10n-english, simply
I've never though about CC-ing people there.

It would be wonderful to have -l10n-english automatically Cc-ed.



More generally: do we only support submitting ITP in english?  If soon
or later we plan to support ITP in other languages maybe we can add a
pseudo-header field to the ITP bug report with the language the bug
report is written in and Cc the appropriate -l10n-XXX list.



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Re: Send ITPs to debian-l10n-english?

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 07:15:14AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > I wonder whether it would be good to systematically send ITP mail to
> > debian-l10n-english so that people in that list can review the
> > packages' descriptions.
> 
> I'd rather not do this, but instead encourage interested people to
> PTS-subscribe to the wnpp package.

Well, the interest is mostly for ITP while bugs sent to wnpp are more
than ITP's, am I right?




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Re: Send ITPs to debian-l10n-english?

2007-04-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 11:09:28AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 07:15:14AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > I wonder whether it would be good to systematically send ITP mail to
> > > debian-l10n-english so that people in that list can review the
> > > packages' descriptions.
> > 
> > I'd rather not do this, but instead encourage interested people to
> > PTS-subscribe to the wnpp package.
> 
> Well, the interest is mostly for ITP while bugs sent to wnpp are more
> than ITP's, am I right?

Yes, but these could be filtered locally. I do not see a good reason
to mirror automatic mails to a mailing list which is really being used
by humans. Increases noise level.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Planned DebPool features

2007-04-21 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Saturday 21 April 2007 10:26, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:21:16PM +0200, Andreas Fester wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > I have started to create a wiki page with the topics I found in
> > the mailing discussions so far:
> >
> > http://wiki.debian.org/DebPoolResurrected
>
> Given that we don't have a "DebPool" page on the wiki I wonder why it
> should be named "DebPoolResurrected" ..

There is, however, a page called "debpool" (even linked to 
from "DebPoolResurrected").

> If there are no objection I suggest to rename the page to DebPool and
> then add something "we are currently resurrecting the old debpool"
> somewhere in the page.

Having two pages, one more user oriented and one more developer oriented, 
might perhaps be reasonable? But I agree that one of the pages should be 
renamed, if only to make capitalization consistent.

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Re: Planned DebPool features

2007-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 01:11:41PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> > Given that we don't have a "DebPool" page on the wiki I wonder why it
> > should be named "DebPoolResurrected" ..
> There is, however, a page called "debpool" (even linked to 
> from "DebPoolResurrected").

Which of course I missed :/, sorry.

> Having two pages, one more user oriented and one more developer oriented, 
> might perhaps be reasonable? But I agree that one of the pages should be 
> renamed, if only to make capitalization consistent.

Agreed.

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Bug#420291: ITP: openchange -- MAPI (Exchange) implementation for POSIX systems

2007-04-21 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jelmer Vernooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: openchange
  Version : 0.0.1
  Upstream Author : Julien Kerihuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> et al.
* URL : http://www.openchange.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : MAPI (Exchange) implementation for POSIX systems

Free Software implementation of the MAPI protocol, as used by Microsoft 
Outlook and Microsoft Exchange. 

The client is getting close to being usable.

Openchange should go into experimental (it is still experimental
itself, and it requires Samba 4, which is currently only in experimental as 
well)

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Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=locale: Cannot set 
LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
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Bug#420289: ITP: ilf -- InfoNode Look and Feel

2007-04-21 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: ilf
  Version : 1.5.0
  Upstream Author : NNL Technology <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.infonode.net/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : InfoNode Look and Feel
 InfoNode Look and Feel is a Java Swing look and feel based on the Metal look
 and feel. It's designed to have a slim, clean appearance. It has support for
 themes.
 .
  Homepage: http://www.infonode.net/



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Re: Xorg 7.2

2007-04-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 19 April 2007 03.15:21 David Nusinow wrote:
> We
> need to push XCB forward though, and how to deal with the java bug
> mentioned in that post isn't clear yet.

What I don't quite understand is how a non-free package should block this 
upgrade.

Yes, Java is used by a lot of people and I'd certainly not push this into 
testing until the problem is solved, but we're talking about unstable here.  
If Java is broken in unstable because of a Java bug (AFAIU this is really a 
Java bug, not an X bug?) and is not so easy to fix, the by all means lets 
break Java.  Somebody apparently had pressure from somebody to push Java 
into non-free, so reports that Java is broken in Debian unstable should get 
the pressure up to get it fixed, no?

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Re: Xorg 7.2

2007-04-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 03:08:35PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> On Thursday 19 April 2007 03.15:21 David Nusinow wrote:
> > We
> > need to push XCB forward though, and how to deal with the java bug
> > mentioned in that post isn't clear yet.

> What I don't quite understand is how a non-free package should block this 
> upgrade.

> Yes, Java is used by a lot of people and I'd certainly not push this into 
> testing until the problem is solved, but we're talking about unstable here.  
> If Java is broken in unstable because of a Java bug (AFAIU this is really a 
> Java bug, not an X bug?) and is not so easy to fix, the by all means lets 
> break Java.  Somebody apparently had pressure from somebody to push Java 
> into non-free, so reports that Java is broken in Debian unstable should get 
> the pressure up to get it fixed, no?

"unstable" doesn't mean "it's ok to upload packages with known bugs that
render the system unusable to many users and drives them away from using
unstable because they're using non-free software and that shouldn't matter
to us".  The consequences of breaking Java for most users (whether they're
using it in the form packaged in non-free or not) would be an increased
volume of (duplicate) bug reports for the XSF and, if the problem remains
unresolved, a decrease in the number of users testing the unstable packages
for us in precisely the configurations that are relevant to the XCB switch.

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Re: Bug#420249: ITP: thom -- A Thomson TO7-70 Emulator

2007-04-21 Thread Jérémie Corbier
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:00PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Do these two emulators come with free ROMs and other free software to
> run in the emulated environment?

Unfortunately, both emulators require ROMs that are not free. They are available
on the software's website but you are supposed to own the original cartridges.

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Bug#420344: ITP: swingx -- Extensions to the Swing GUI toolkit

2007-04-21 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: swingx
  Version : 20070415
  Upstream Author : SwingLabs SwingX Project
* URL : https://swingx.dev.java.net/
* License : LGPL
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : Extensions to the Swing GUI toolkit
 Contains extensions to the Swing GUI toolkit, including new and enhanced
 components that provide functionality commonly required by rich client
 applications. Highlights include:
  - Sorting, filtering, highlighting for tables, trees, and lists
  - Find/search
  - Auto-completion
  - Login/authentication framework
  - TreeTable component
  - Collapsible panel component
  - Date picker component
  - Tip-of-the-Day component
 Many of these features will eventually be incorporated into the Swing toolkit,
 although API compatibility will not be guaranteed. The SwingX project focuses
 exclusively on the raw components themselves.
 .
  Homepage: https://swingx.dev.java.net/



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Re: Bug#420165: ITP: commons-configuration -- Java based library providing a generic configuration interface

2007-04-21 Thread Damián Viano
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 03:29:49PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: commons-configuration
>   Version : 1.4
>   Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation
> * URL : http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/configuration/
> * License : Apache License 2.0
>   Programming Lang: Java
>   Description : Java based library providing a generic configuration 
> interface
>  Commons Configuration provides a generic configuration interface which 
> enables
>  an application to read configuration data from a variety of sources:
>   - Properties files
>   - XML documents
>   - Property list files (.plist)
>   - JNDI
>   - JDBC Datasource
>   - System properties
>   - Applet parameters
>   - Servlet parameters
>  Additional sources of configuration parameters can be created by using custom
>  configuration objects.
>  .
>   Homepage: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/configuration/

Mmm... I think commons-configuration can be a slightly misleading
name, how about libcommons-configuration-java following lots of
libcommons-* packages already in the archive?

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Re: Bug#420249: ITP: thom -- A Thomson TO7-70 Emulator

2007-04-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 08:13:38PM +0200, Jérémie Corbier wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:00PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Do these two emulators come with free ROMs and other free software to
> > run in the emulated environment?
> 
> Unfortunately, both emulators require ROMs that are not free. They are 
> available
> on the software's website but you are supposed to own the original cartridges.

Ah. Then the emulator packages (thom, teo) would belong in contrib.


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Re: Bug#420344: ITP: swingx -- Extensions to the Swing GUI toolkit

2007-04-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi,

On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 20:00:10 +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: swingx
>   Version : 20070415

Take into account that if upstream later on changes the version to
something not date based you might have to use an epoch.

regards,
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Re: lintian.debian.org back up and running

2007-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:39PM -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> 
> Hello all,
> 
> lintian.debian.org has been updated to lintian 1.23.29 and should now be
> up to date.  As of today, it should resume its daily update cycle.
> 
> This is a substantial update from the previous version, plus lintian had
> not been running for some time, so there may be significant changes to the
> reports.  Particularly given that we're at the start of a release cycle,
> now would be an excellent time for you to go to either:
> 
> http://lintian.debian.org/
> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php
> 
> find yourself and review the lintian report for your packages.
> 
> lintian.debian.org has also been a good way to uncover false positives and
> checks that need tweaking, and I expect quite a lot of that has built up.
> If you see tags from lintian that you believe are wrong after checking the
> tag description, please feel free to file a bug against lintian (and
> ideally even a patch).

It would be great if developer lintian report would should not only
directly maintained packages but also co-maintained ones.

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Re: lintian.debian.org back up and running

2007-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:56:13AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:39PM -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > lintian.debian.org has been updated to lintian 1.23.29 and should now be
> > up to date.  As of today, it should resume its daily update cycle.
> > 
> > This is a substantial update from the previous version, plus lintian had
> > not been running for some time, so there may be significant changes to the
> > reports.  Particularly given that we're at the start of a release cycle,
> > now would be an excellent time for you to go to either:
> > 
> > http://lintian.debian.org/
> > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php
> > 
> > find yourself and review the lintian report for your packages.
> > 
> > lintian.debian.org has also been a good way to uncover false positives and
> > checks that need tweaking, and I expect quite a lot of that has built up.
> > If you see tags from lintian that you believe are wrong after checking the
> > tag description, please feel free to file a bug against lintian (and
> > ideally even a patch).
> 
> It would be great if developer lintian report would should not only
  ^^
  that was supposed
  to be "show"

> directly maintained packages but also co-maintained ones.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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