Re: How to bet back to a sane version number?

[Anthony Towns]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 02:22:27PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> It's also a good idea to check against APT's implementation when
> playing with strange version numbers (because it's not the same).  

Hrm? They used to be significantly different (apt wouldn't cope with
numbers greater than ~0ul or so, while dpkg would), but ttbomk there
hasn't been any difference in practice since support for ~ was implemented
in both.

Cheers,
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Re: merging BTS manual and d.o/Bugs documentation?

[Mario Iseli]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 02:26:30AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Nico!

> Mario Iseli [0]reported that he started to translate the BTS
> manual into german (good idea btw!)

Thank you...

> What makes me wonder is that there is also [1]another
> manual which has more or less the same content and is
> already translated.

I really like those "manuals" on www.debian.org/doc/manuals/, they are
printerfriendly, nice layout and look really professional, maybe like a
book. I do mostly make a difference - an explanation of some functions
and a reference. 

> I see no real benefit to have both documents, what do you
> think about merging them or just use one?

I'd say remove the very detailed explanations like the bts tags from the
/Bugs page and instead make a link to the reference manual. This is just
my own oppinion, maybe I'm wrong...

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Re: How to bet back to a sane version number?

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 02:22:27PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:

> > FWIW you can experiment quite easily using

> > dpkg --compare-versions x lt y && echo Yes

> > Interestingly, "4.22.." is considered higher than "4.22.3". I'm not sure
> > if this is good advice though :-)

> It's also a good idea to check against APT's implementation when
> playing with strange version numbers (because it's not the same).

Only if your purpose is to file bug reports about the difference, since any
divergence is a bug.

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Re: should an init-script print output, if verbose is set to no in /etc/default/rcS or by /lib/init/vars.sh?

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:31:35PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > [Evgeni Golov]
> > > Now my question to the init-gurus/maintainers is: is the behavior of
> > > my script correct, or should verbose mean: "print minimal status
> > > information, but suppress warnings etc"?

> > I would recommend only printing warning and error messages when
> > VERBOSE is disabled, so in this regard you script sounds correct.

> And, speaking for the samba package maintainers and as the person who,
> IIRC, reported the suggestion to use LSB stuff for openssh, I can tell
> that not using VERBOSE is nothing but ignorance on my side.

And where in policy are all of these requirements documented?

Further, why should individual init scripts that are already going to all
the effort of using the LSB interfaces be expected to handle VERBOSE
individually?  Why isn't this part of the log_* implementation?

Also, why is /lib/init/vars.sh not set +e-clean?

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Bug#419866: ITP: ajaxtags -- Java based library supporting AJAX in Java Server Pages

[Torsten Werner]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: ajaxtags
  Version : 1.2~beta3
  Upstream Author : Darren L. Spurgeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://ajaxtags.sourceforge.net/
* License : Apache License
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : Java based library supporting AJAX in Java Server Pages

 The AJAX Tag Library is a set of JSP tags that simplify the use of
 Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX) technology in JavaServer Pages.
 .
 This tag library does not force J2EE developers to write the necessary
 JavaScript to implement an AJAX-capable web form. The tag library provides
 support for live form updates for the following use cases:
  - autocomplete based on character input to an input field
  - select box population based on selections made from another field
  - callout or balloon popups for highlighting content
  - refreshing form fields
  - toggling images and form field states on/off.
 .
  Homepage: http://ajaxtags.sourceforge.net/



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Package file names

[Magnus Holmgren]

Is it a technical requirement (of dpkg, apt, and/or dak), that packages be 
named ${pkgname}_${version}_${arch}.${ext} (${pkgname}_${version}.${ext} for 
source), or merely (or mostly) policy?

I note that dpkg-deb and dpkg-source name files correctly, in normal use at 
least, and that jennifer (of dak) enforces correct naming. I also note that 
the extensions of the files constituting a source package (dsc, orig.tar.gz, 
etc.) is important.

But the package name, version, and architecture is of course written down in 
the various control files, and the file names are listed in the Packages and 
Sources files that apt downloads. So as long as name collisions can be 
avoided (for example in simple repositories holding just one version and 
architecture of a package at a time), the file name technically shouldn't 
matter, should it?

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Bug#419865: ITP: cruisecontrolrb -- A continuous integration tool written in ruby

[James Healy]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: James Healy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: cruisecontrolrb
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Alexey Verkhovsky , Jeremy 
Stell-Smith 
* URL : http://cruisecontrolrb.thoughtworks.com
* License : Apache License Version 2
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A continuous integration tool written in ruby

CruiseControl.rb is a continuous integration  tool. Its basic
purpose in life is to alert members of a software project when
one of them checks something into source control that breaks the
build.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.20-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash


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Re: Package file names

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 01:47:26PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> Is it a technical requirement (of dpkg, apt, and/or dak), that packages be 
> named ${pkgname}_${version}_${arch}.${ext} (${pkgname}_${version}.${ext} for 
> source), or merely (or mostly) policy?

It's a technical requirement for apt and (to a somewhat lesser extent,
but still) the archive that names be unique. Other than that, nothing.

[...]
> But the package name, version, and architecture is of course written down in 
> the various control files, and the file names are listed in the Packages and 
> Sources files that apt downloads. So as long as name collisions can be 
> avoided (for example in simple repositories holding just one version and 
> architecture of a package at a time), the file name technically shouldn't 
> matter, should it?

That's right. Try it:

cp /var/cache/apt/archives/aptitude_0.4.4-4_powerpc.deb ~/foo.deb
sudo dpkg -i ~/foo.deb

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Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

[linux]

I would like to start a new sub-project called Debian4Business or perhaps
Debian-Office.I have a slight preference for the first name, but this is
discussable of course.

I have a small company, that provides legal services. About 6 months ago (I use
linux for more than 8 years already) all desktops are running Linux now. The
people using those desktops have no prior linux experience. I have tried several
distributions, but with every distribution I see problems appear with the people
that use it. These problem appear because no distribution is really focused on
business use within small and mid-sized companies.

Of course there are some distro's with exactly this goal, however they are
usually commercial products/forks. Probably all very good distro's but also
awfully expensive, and that makes them not very interesting for small- and
mid-sized companies.

I believe there is definetely a 'market' for a business oriented linux based on
open source/GPL/Debian social-contract, maintained for and by it's users instead
of a commercial base. The open source/GPL/DSC concept works for individuals, so
why it wouldn't/couldn't work for businesses?

My goal with this project is to create a CDD that provides it's users with the
tools they need to easily install and use the things a small and mid-sized
business needs in their working environment. This goes for both server and
desktop tasks. A small and mid-sized company often doesn't have a permanent
system manager, that's exactly why things have to be simple. Of course it should
also include the common office tools, like an office package (openoffice), 
email,
groupware, etc etc.

I would very much like to hear the opinions of the developer community.
The first -and very important- step to be taken is to form a group of people 
that
support this goal and are willing to work on it.

If there are no major objections I will start to get things going.

Regards,

 

Arjan van Eersel
 Dit bericht is verzonden via mijndomein.nl

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

[Nico Golde]

Hi,
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-18 15:26]:
> I have a small company, that provides legal services. About 6 months ago (I 
> use
> linux for more than 8 years already) all desktops are running Linux now.

And you still use DOS linebreaks?
SCNR
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Using dpkg-statoverride

[Rodrigo Tavares]

Hello,

When I unpacked the package, the files permissions are
with a user than created the package.

Using dpkg-statoverride, I can to change all files for
another user ?

Best regards,

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Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

[Luis Matos]

Hello there ...



Qua, 2007-04-18 às 15:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> I would like to start a new sub-project called Debian4Business or perhaps
> Debian-Office.I have a slight preference for the first name, but this is
> discussable of course.
a bit of background.
Last week i emailed debian-desktop list to propose as lenny release goal
to add a task called "enterprise-desktop" and also one called
"enterprise-server", names are not important. I am just giving my
support to this.
> 
> I have a small company, that provides legal services. About 6 months ago (I 
> use
> linux for more than 8 years already) all desktops are running Linux now. The
> people using those desktops have no prior linux experience. I have tried 
> several
> distributions, but with every distribution I see problems appear with the 
> people
> that use it. These problem appear because no distribution is really focused on
> business use within small and mid-sized companies.
> 
> Of course there are some distro's with exactly this goal, however they are
> usually commercial products/forks. Probably all very good distro's but also
> awfully expensive, and that makes them not very interesting for small- and
> mid-sized companies.
> 
> I believe there is definetely a 'market' for a business oriented linux based 
> on
> open source/GPL/Debian social-contract, maintained for and by it's users 
> instead
> of a commercial base. The open source/GPL/DSC concept works for individuals, 
> so
> why it wouldn't/couldn't work for businesses?

I think the majoraty of debian's instalations are in corportive
environments, server And/or desktops. So i think that debian should have
the goal to give those users a better solution than the general one.
> 
> My goal with this project is to create a CDD that provides it's users with the
> tools they need to easily install and use the things a small and mid-sized
> business needs in their working environment. This goes for both server and
> desktop tasks. A small and mid-sized company often doesn't have a permanent
> system manager, that's exactly why things have to be simple. Of course it 
> should
> also include the common office tools, like an office package (openoffice), 
> email,
> groupware, etc etc.

My first proposal was to create 2 tasks in tasksel. We have desktop
task, so we could add an enterprise-desktop task.

My point was to provide centralized authentication and information,
having something like libpam-ldap and libpam-mount installed and
configured by debconf's interface.

For -ldap is easy, just now, it just asks for the server, but -mount
would mount server partitions as well as user's desktop preferences.

Also, it would be given care to the tools and packages included.

A cdd would be good for some first testing, but having it included in
debian would be great.
> 
> I would very much like to hear the opinions of the developer community.
> The first -and very important- step to be taken is to form a group of people 
> that
> support this goal and are willing to work on it.

count with me.
> 
> If there are no major objections I will start to get things going.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Arjan van Eersel
>  Dit bericht is verzonden via mijndomein.nl

best regards

Luis Matos


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Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 15:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would like to start a new sub-project called Debian4Business or perhaps
> Debian-Office.I have a slight preference for the first name, but this is
> discussable of course.

Since your are using Debian as a base, have at it. Do you best.

> I have a small company, that provides legal services. About 6 months ago (I 
> use
> linux for more than 8 years already) all desktops are running Linux now. The
> people using those desktops have no prior linux experience. I have tried 
> several
> distributions, but with every distribution I see problems appear with the 
> people
> that use it. These problem appear because no distribution is really focused on
> business use within small and mid-sized companies.

I'd like to know what kind of problem. Just because there are problems
with Debian, doesn't mean you can submit wishlist bugs to help make
things better for your specific issues you see.

> Of course there are some distro's with exactly this goal, however they are
> usually commercial products/forks. Probably all very good distro's but also
> awfully expensive, and that makes them not very interesting for small- and
> mid-sized companies.

Like... which ones? How do we know which ones you are talking about when
you don't specify. Ambiguity really doesn't do anyone any good.

> I believe there is definetely a 'market' for a business oriented linux based 
> on
> open source/GPL/Debian social-contract, maintained for and by it's users 
> instead
> of a commercial base. The open source/GPL/DSC concept works for individuals, 
> so
> why it wouldn't/couldn't work for businesses?

There are already Distro's that do exactly as you say, but maybe perhaps
use CentOS or Gentoo as a base. There are ones that provide these things
in a Debian platform too.

> My goal with this project is to create a CDD that provides it's users with the
> tools they need to easily install and use the things a small and mid-sized
> business needs in their working environment. This goes for both server and
> desktop tasks. A small and mid-sized company often doesn't have a permanent
> system manager, that's exactly why things have to be simple. Of course it 
> should
> also include the common office tools, like an office package (openoffice), 
> email,
> groupware, etc etc.

Debian has "profiles" already. You can search for your applications
available to Debian using "aptitude search yoursearchterm"

aptitude search groupware

gives (showing only meta packages, or primary packages with deps)

egroupware
phpgroupware

But then that misses many of the packages you can build a groupware
setup with, like evolution, webcal, exim, etc...

> I would very much like to hear the opinions of the developer community.
> The first -and very important- step to be taken is to form a group of people 
> that
> support this goal and are willing to work on it.

Well, there is already work in these kinds of areas, though mainly aimed
at the "system admin areas", much of the ground work has been done
though.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search dpsyco
p dpsyco  - Debian packages of system configurations
p dpsyco-base - Base package for the debian packages of system 
configurations
p dpsyco-cfengine - Automate applying of cfengine configs
p dpsyco-devel- Tools to create configuration packages
p dpsyco-lib  - Libraries for the debian packages of system 
configurations
p dpsyco-mysql- Automate administration of access to mysql
p dpsyco-patch- Automatically patch the debian file-system
p dpsyco-samba- Automate administration of access to samba
p dpsyco-skel - Automatically install a add-on skeleton
p dpsyco-ssh  - Automate administration of access via ssh
p dpsyco-sudo - Automate administration of sudo privileges

You could create suck a package, something like

dpsyco-sm-bus-desktop
dpsyco-sm-bus-server
dpsyco-sm-bus-egroupware
dpsyco-sm-bus-accounting
dpsyco-sm-bus-legal
dpsyco-sm-bus-publishing
dpsyco-sm-bus-backup

I mean the options are endless with 20 some thousand packages in Debian.

> If there are no major objections I will start to get things going.

Have at it man. Many would love to help you, but a basic frame of
reference would be good to start on. And understand you need not build a
whole distribution, just a good subset of installed packages and maybe
some "sane" defaults.
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Re: Using dpkg-statoverride

[Magnus Holmgren]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 16:03, Rodrigo Tavares wrote:
> When I unpacked the package, the files permissions are
> with a user than created the package.
>
> Using dpkg-statoverride, I can to change all files for
> another user ?

What package? All files in a package should be owned by root or possibly one 
of the statically allocated user ids. Files owned by uid >= 1000 is a serious 
bug, if that's what you're talking about. The system administrator can use 
dpkg-statoverride to prevent dpkg from resetting the ownership and/or 
permissions of files included in the package each time the package is 
upgraded.

http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.9

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Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-04-10 13:51:13, schrieb Neil Williams:
> IANAL, but being open source, a patent lawyer would probably try to
> claim that distributing the code ALLOWS the infringement of the patent
> as if that makes Debian complicit in the infringement. Whether the code
> actually does include an implementation of the patented algorithm
> hasn't been confirmed here - it could just be a linkage.

Hmmm, Debian BINARIES do not use the code so it is the $USER choice
to download the source and enable it, WHICH he/she can do it legal
IF he/she has obtained an INDIVIDUAL LICENSE from the PATENT OWNER.

So I think, Distributing the Source for it but not compiling it
into the binries should be OK.

Note: I have a customer which need a functionality in one of the
  Debian packages which I had only to enable and rebuild the
  package (I have failed to get the ORIGINAL source from
  upstream running on Debian).  Since my customer HAS a legal
  licence, he was realy happy about the simple migration.

In my eyes, such source codes should be distributed but not
enabled by default.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: Linux/Debian documentation suggestion

[Steve Greenland]

On 17-Apr-07, 18:22 (CDT), The Fungi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 05:10:20PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 17-Apr-07, 13:25 (CDT), Glenn Moeller-Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > *If I want or need command xxzz, which packages can give me that?
> > 
> > You'll need to explore the packages website.
> 
> Or try out 'apt-file search xxzz' if you're so inclined (after
> installing the apt-file package and updating it, of course).

Oh, that's nifty.

apt-file (0.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * Initial Release.

 -- Sebastien J. Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sat, 13 Oct 2001 21:36:47 +0200


I've been living without this for 5+ years!?! How come no one told me
about this?

Steve

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Bug#419924: ITP: glusterfs -- A powerful network/cluster filesystem

[Christian Meder]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  Package name: glusterfs
  Version : 1.2.3
  Upstream Author : Amar Tumballi 
Anand Avati   
Anand Babu
Balamurugan A 
Basavanagowda Kanur 
Harshavardhana Ranganath 
Vikas Gorur 
  URL : http://www.gluster.org/glusterfs.php
  License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : A powerful network/cluster filesystem

GlusterFS is a clustered file-system capable of scaling to several
peta-bytes. It aggregates various storage bricks over Infiniband RDMA
or TCP/IP interconnect into one large parallel network file system.
GlusterFS is one of the most sophisticated file system in terms of
features and extensibility. It borrows a powerful concept called
Translators from GNU Hurd kernel. Much of the code in GlusterFS is in
userspace and easily manageable.


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Re: merging BTS manual and d.o/Bugs documentation?

[Don Armstrong]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Mario Iseli wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 02:26:30AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> > I see no real benefit to have both documents, what do you think
> > about merging them or just use one?
> 
> I'd say remove the very detailed explanations like the bts tags from
> the /Bugs page and instead make a link to the reference manual. This
> is just my own oppinion, maybe I'm wrong...

Decreasing the quality of the documentation on /Bugs is not really
something that I'm interested in supporting; far better to incorporate
the tag explanations from /Bugs into the reference manual
automatically than to remove them from the place that most people look
at them (and the place which is already translated.)

There's nothing wrong with having a reference manual that people can
use to print out if they want in a separate location; the problem is
unecessary duplication of the content. [You'll notice that the
reference manual is behind the Bugs/ webpages as far as describing the
features of the BTS.]


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Re: Linux/Debian documentation suggestion

[Debian Oracle]

On ke, 2007-04-18 at 14:31 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> apt-file (0.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Initial Release.
> 
>  -- Sebastien J. Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sat, 13 Oct 2001 21:36:47 +0200
> 
> I've been living without this for 5+ years!?! How come no one told me
> about this?

The Debian Oracle is mighty glad you asked that question! It's about
time someone did.

The tale of how the existence of apt-file was suppressed from the Debian
developer community is one of the more sordid and shameful ones in
Debian. It has all the scandalous ingredients of the decline of the
Roman empire.

Unfortunately, it cannot be told. The discussion involved happened on
debian-private, and its participants have said they don't want it
published. Not even the Debian Oracle is mighty enough to survive the
punishment for revealing what happens on -private.

Oops.

You owe the Debian Oracle safe haven and a black anti-helicopter missile
launcher. Now, please.



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Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

[Andreas Tille]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote:


A cdd would be good for some first testing, but having it included in
debian would be great.


Argh - the usual missunderstanding: If you use the term Custom
Debian Distribution your first Google hit gives the definition:

   Custom Debian Distribution (CDD): a subset of Debian that is
   configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box.

So having it included in Debian is solved by definition - and this
would be the right thing to do.  The mailing list that is relevant
for this [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you ask me you should read [1] and [2] and finally come up with
a proposal on the debian-custom list.  I really like your idea.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/CustomDebian
[2] http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd

PS: I really hate that people were able to convince me to agree
to the name Custom Debian Distributions for the thingy that
was called Debian Internal Projects because it is so terribly
missleading that nobody becomes an idea what we really mean
by this term.

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Re: Linux/Debian documentation suggestion

[Kurt Roeckx]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 05:10:20PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> 
> > *If I want or need command xxzz, which packages can give me that?
> 
> You'll need to explore the packages website.

You mean the search page on packages.debian.org called
"Search the contents of packages"?  Which just like apt-file is an
interface to the Contents files that is on the ftp site?


Kurt


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Re: Linux/Debian documentation suggestion

[Steve Greenland]

On 18-Apr-07, 15:03 (CDT), Debian Oracle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Unfortunately, it cannot be told. The discussion involved happened on
> debian-private, and its participants have said they don't want it
> published. Not even the Debian Oracle is mighty enough to survive the
> punishment for revealing what happens on -private.
> 
> Oops.
> 
> You owe the Debian Oracle safe haven and a black anti-helicopter missile
> launcher. Now, please.

Sure, no problem. Please send the latitude, longitude, and elevation of
your front door to debian-private. Delivery will begin shortly.

Regards, and Farewell,
Steve

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system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the
world.   -- seen on the net


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Bug#419951: ITP: jexcelapi -- Java API to read, write and modify Excel spreadsheets

[Torsten Werner]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: jexcelapi
  Version : 2.6.3
  Upstream Author : Andy Khan
* URL : http://www.jexcelapi.org/
* License : LGPL
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : Java API to read, write and modify Excel spreadsheets
 The Java Excel API is an open source Java API which allows Java developers to
 read Excel spreadsheets and to generate Excel spreadsheets dynamically. In
 addition, it contains a mechanism which allows java applications to read in a
 spreadsheet, modify some cells and write out the new spreadsheet.
 .
 This API allows non Windows operating systems to run pure Java applications
 which can both process and deliver Excel spreadsheets. Because it is Java,
 this API may be invoked from within a servlet, thus giving access to Excel
 functionality over internet and intranet web applications.
 .
  Homepage: http://www.jexcelapi.org



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Re: Xorg 7.2

[David Nusinow]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 08:31:04AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Just a quick heads-up for those who don't read planet and have been 
> wondering why Xorg 7.2 is lingering in experimental: There's an excellent 
> announcement on David Nusinov's blog at 
> .  I wish such stuff would be 
> posted to the mailing lists and not just to blogs.

Sorry I didn't post it to a mailing list. The stuff I blog isn't really
approprite for -devel-announce, and I really want to make sure that our
users know what's going on, so planet seems like the natural place. This is
the second request though, so I'll try and send updates to -devel as well.

Also of major note, Julien clarified my post a bit in the comments. Most of
7.2 is actually in unstable, including the drivers (in addition, we have
pre-release drivers for intel in experimental). The missing thing though is
the server (which is, of course, the centerpiece of the release), which
will go in with the coming version 1.3 release, with or without XCB. We
need to push XCB forward though, and how to deal with the java bug
mentioned in that post isn't clear yet.

> To David and the other XSF people: keep on as you have the last years!  X 
> just is a non-issue, and that's just what I expect from it - it just works.  
> (proprietary nvidia hardware excluded, but then that's my fault for having 
> such hardware ...)

Thank you, and I promise you we'll improve it. There's a few big changes on
the way (randr 1.2) and a few small ones too. As for nvidia, we've got two
volunteers to help maintain nouveau for us[0] so even that problem will
lessen in the future.

 - David Nusinow

[0] This is the sort of reason why Debian rocks, btw.


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Re: Using dpkg-statoverride

[Kevin B. McCarty]

Rodrigo Tavares wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> When I unpacked the package, the files permissions are
> with a user than created the package.
> 
> Using dpkg-statoverride, I can to change all files for
> another user ?

If the package is not one of your own, please immediately file a
critical bug against it (or if it is an unofficial package, at least
inform the distributor), and in that case the rest of this email doesn't
apply.

If the package in question is one that you created yourself, you should
know that "fakeroot" is intended to prevent exactly this problem -- all
of your package building should be done using fakeroot.

For instance, as example command lines,

fakeroot debian/rules binary
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

[etc.]

fakeroot is available in the package called (what else?) fakeroot.  For
further information, you should (re-)read the New Maintainer's Guide [0]
and the fakeroot man page -- note that use of fakeroot is mentioned in
chapters 1 and 6 of the former document.  Also, debian-mentors is a
better place for this sort of question.

[0] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

best regards,

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Bug#419968: ITP: libconfig-std-perl -- Perl module to load and save configuration files in a standard format

[Ivan Kohler]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libconfig-std-perl
  Version : 0.0.4
  Upstream Author : Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Config-Std/
* License : same as Perl itself
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module to load and save configuration files in a 
standard format

 This module implements yet another damn configuration-file system.

 The configuration language is deliberately simple and limited, and the
 module works hard to preserve as much information (section order,
 comments, etc.) as possible when a configuration file is updated.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash


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Bug#419966: ITP: libclass-std-perl -- Perl module for creating standard "inside-out" classes

[Ivan Kohler]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libclass-std-perl
  Version : 0.0.8
  Upstream Author : Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-Std/
* License : same as Perl itself
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module for creating standard "inside-out" classes

 This module provides tools that help to implement the "inside out object"
 class structure in a convenient and standard way.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash


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Re: UNSUSCRIBE

[Adrian von Bidder]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 20.51:16 Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> man procmailrc

On gmail?

-- vbi

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Re: Bug#419951: ITP: jexcelapi -- Java API to read, write and modify Excel spreadsheets

[Luca Brivio]

Alle 01:37, giovedì 19 aprile 2007, Torsten Werner ha scritto:
>   Description : Java API to read, write and modify Excel spreadsheets
>  The Java Excel API is an open source Java API which allows Java developers
> to read Excel spreadsheets and to generate Excel spreadsheets dynamically.

(Sorry if this is boring) I think that at least in the long description it 
would be wise to fully qualify "Excel spreadsheets", because there's no 
actual standard about them (Microsoft's as I guess? If so, either .xls or 
ECMA's "OpenXML"? Which version?).

Thanks,
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