Re: VMware Player packages

2007-03-08 Thread Hans Kratz

Hi!


No, it can build vmware-player .debs as well. I'll fix the wrong


Ah, I see. I will take a look at vmware-package. Do you plan on
supporting VMware Server as well?

-- Hans


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Bug#413971: ITP: hiawatha -- lightweight and secure web server

2007-03-08 Thread Emmanuel Bouthenot
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Emmanuel Bouthenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: hiawatha
  Version : 5.7
  Upstream Author : Hugo Leisink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://hiawatha.leisink.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : lightweight and secure web server

Hiawatha is a secure web server written with 'being secure' as
its main goal. It has a small memory print and it is easy to
configure.

It's main features are :
 - cgi and fast-cgi support
 - cross-site scripting prevention
 - DoS/flooding protection
 - Rootjail
 - Referer control for images (prevent external image linking)
 - ssl support
 - SQL injection prevention
 - Traffic throttling/shaping
 - Userdirectory, VirtualHost, ...

 Homepage: http://hiawatha.leisink.org/

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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 06:50:15PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 12:37:39AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
snip
> > I'm tired giving the link again and again, ON THE KDE USER LIST where
> > it's the most probable place to find users caring about KDE rignt ? I
snip
> >   it gave 0 DAMN USER WNATED TO HELP.
> 
> From my perspective, it shows that the intended audience did not read
> that list or that particular mail or subscribed after it was sent...

That list looks very low-traffic. I see no more than one page of 
archived posts for the last 4-5 months, compared to between 7 and 11 
pages for debian-user.


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Good Day

2007-03-08 Thread Wolseley Group Limited UK

Hello and Good Day...

The recruitment office of Wolseley Group UK wishes to notify you  concerning a 
job opening in the company.

The company presently needs a representative/book-keeper in the United States 
and in Canada,
due to its recent business expansion to North America.This would be an online 
job and would not affect or require you leaving present job.

We are the world's number one distributor of heating and plumbing products to 
the professional market,a leading supplier of building materials and services

Our company delivers an unrivalled range of industry leading products and 
services, underpinned by some of the most powerful brand names in the building 
and construction sector.

Due to our current expanding clients base in the United States and Canada, we 
are recruiting representatives in the United States and Canada respectively to 
work as company representatives that would assist in processing the payments 
from our clients.HE/SHE would be paid a weekly salary based on percentage.

PLEASE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED SEND US AN EMAIL SO THAT WE CAN EQUIP YOU WITH THE 
JOB DETAILS AND EMPLOYMENT REQUIREMENTS.

WARM REGARDS,
PETE CAMPBELL,
PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER.
WOLSELEY GROUP UK.
1-5 WOLSELEY PARKWAY NW, 
LONDON, SW1Y 6EE, 
UNITED KINGDOM 
WWW.WOLSELEY.COM




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Re: VMware Player packages

2007-03-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:14:45AM +0100, Hans Kratz wrote:
> >No, it can build vmware-player .debs as well. I'll fix the wrong
> 
> Ah, I see. I will take a look at vmware-package. Do you plan on
> supporting VMware Server as well?

As it is documented in the package docs, and a bug in the BTS, to
support VMware Server, we'll need to build a second
vmware-any-any-foo-source package from the same sources, which needs
somebody with really serious make knowledge.

Greetings
Marc

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Bug#413987: ITP: openjpeg -- JPEG 2000 image compression codec library

2007-03-08 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Paul "TBBle" Hampson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: openjpeg
  Version : 1.1.1
  Upstream Author : OpenJPEG Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.openjpeg.org/
* License : BSD (2-clause as per http://www.openjpeg.org/BSDlicense.txt)
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : JPEG 2000 image compression codec library

OpenJPEG is a codec library for handling the JPEG 2000 image compression
format.
==

I have preliminary 1.1 packages which I need to update to 1.1.1, and
once I've done that I'll be seeking a sponsor on debian-mentors unless
I am approached beforehand. (hint hint ^_^)

I'm packaging this as a dependancy of secondlife-client

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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686
Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

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Bug#413986: ITP: xmlrpc-epi -- XML-RPC request serialisation/deserialisation library

2007-03-08 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Paul "TBBle" Hampson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: xmlrpc-epi
  Version : 0.51
  Upstream Author : Dan Libby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://xmlrpc-epi.sourceforge.net
* License : See below (Basically the first clause of the BSD license)
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : XML-RPC request serialisation/deserialisation library

xmlrpc-epi is an XML-RPC request serialisation/deserialisation library,
useful for applications which have their own network infrastructure.

==
License:
  1) The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included
  without modification in all copies or substantial portions of the 
  Software.  

  2) THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF
  ANY KIND, EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY
  IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF ACCURACY, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
  PURPOSE OR NONINFRINGEMENT.

  3) IN NO EVENT SHALL EPINIONS, INC. BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, 
  SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR LOST PROFITS ARISING OUT 
  OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE (HOWEVER ARISING, INCLUDING 
  NEGLIGENCE), EVEN IF EPINIONS, INC.  IS AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
  DAMAGES.
==

I have preliminary packages done, and once I've had another once-over on
them, I'll be seeking a sponsor on debian-mentors unless I am approached
beforehand. (hint hint ^_^)

I'm packaging this as a dependancy of secondlife-client

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  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686
Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

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Bug#413985: ITP: elfio -- library for reading and generating ELF files

2007-03-08 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Paul "TBBle" Hampson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: elfio
  Version : 1.0.3
  Upstream Author : Serge Lamikhov-Center <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://elfio.sourceforge.net/
* License : LGPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : library for reading and generating ELF files

elfio is a library for reading and generating ELF files

Thoughts on the long description appreciated... Upstream has something
like:
 elfio is a library for manipulating ELF files, which is
 written in ANSI C++ and usable on a wide variety of
 architectures


==
I have preliminary packages done, and once I've had another once-over on
them, I'll be seeking a sponsor on debian-mentors unless I am approached
beforehand. (hint hint ^_^)

At this point, it's static-link only, as upstream doesn't produce a
sofile and I don't want to muck up any future soversioned release. I'm
flexible on this, given a sufficiently good suggestion.

Also, the package is libelfio-dev, but the actual library file is
/usr/lib/libELFIO.a as that is what upstream Makefiles produce. I
did not see any particular rules against this. A quick poke around
suggests Fedora doesn't have this packaged, Cygwin uses the upper-cased
version, arch linux uses the uppercase version, and Gentoo has an
ebuild but I haven't checked inside it to see what it does.

I'm packaging this as a dependancy of secondlife-client.

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686
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Bug#413575: debian-policy: New virtual package: dictd-dictionary

2007-03-08 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
(Cc: maintainers of dictionary packages for dictd)

Again, I recommend to add the virtual package:

 dictd-dictionarya dictionary for the dictd dictionary server

This virtual package is for a dictionary package which provides
/usr/share/dictd/{*.index,*.dict*}, such as dict-vera,
dacco-cat-users, dict-bouvier, dict-de-en, dict-devil, dict-easton,
dict-elements, dict-foldoc, dict-freedict*, dict-gazetteer,
dict-gazetteer2k-counties, dict-gazetteer2k-places,
dict-gazetteer2k-zips, dict-gcide, dict-hitchcock, dict-jargon,
dict-moby-thesaurus, mueller7-dict, mueller7accent-dict.

If this virtual package is provided, the dictd dictionary server
and similar packages will suggest it, and users will be able to
find the dictionary packages easily.

Comments?

On March 6, 2007 at 7:01AM +0900,
tats (at vega.ocn.ne.jp) wrote:

> clone 413353 -1
> retitle -1 debian-policy: New virtual package: dictd-dictionary
> thanks
>
> I'm cloning this bug for "dictd-dictionary".
>
> On March 5, 2007 at 2:14AM +0900,
> tats (at vega.ocn.ne.jp) wrote:
>
> > > BTW, I recommend to add a virtual package for a dictionary package
> > > which provides /usr/share/dictd/{*.index,*.dict*}, such as
> > > dict-freedict*, dict-gcide, dict-wn, dict-jargon, dict-foldoc,
> > > dict-vera, and so on.
> [...]
> >  dictd-dictionarya dictionary for the dictd dictionary server

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Idea for system installation/maintenance

2007-03-08 Thread Ph. Marek
Hello debian developers,


I'd like to present you a new idea for installation/maintenance of complete
installations. Please take a bit of time, read this mail, and if you've got
any comments, questions or suchlike, don't hesitate to reply.
(This is also a plea for help, in case you might wonder.)


Now, you might come to this questions:
  Why a new installation system? Doesn't dpkg work?

Now, the short introduction above might be too short, in that it allows for
a much broader interpretation as desired. No, dpkg is not dead - it will be
needed as well. This is just an additional idea for helping administrators.


Here are some points where I think my proposal should apply:
- You have some independent groups, where every one maintains some part of a
  machine's installation, and where these groups should nonetheless get their
  data merged into a single installation?
- You'd like to test software updates on a test machine and, if successful,
  do a rollout to a few hundred nearly identical servers, which should
  nonetheless run *without* a central authority (1)?
- You changed a configuration file and now some strange things happen? Hmmm,
  what was the change again? Was it this setting? Or that?
- You're doing backups of user data only? So you've got to re-install the
  machine if the harddisk fails, which can take some time. Oh, you're backing
  up your full installation? How many last versions do you keep? Enough so
  that the spreadsheet-eating worm (2) that you've had for the last two
months
  doesn't bother you? How do you find out which data files might have been
  changed *without* you saying so? Do you compare all your backups regularly?


We all know that kind of problems -- and nearly all administrators don't do
something about them.


Imagine for a moment that the processes you are using for software
development could be used for system installation too. (3)
You'd have the whole system under version control; if a package breaks Xorg
or kdm, you'd simply "update" (to use the CVS or subversion terminology) to
an older version of that package - or just completely restore the old state
of this machine to the last version.


So, to scratch that itch, I started to wrote some patches for subversion
to store at least the modification time; later I posted patches for owner,
group, and mode, too.
In the subversion repository the branches still exist; you can take a look
at http://svn.collab.net/viewvc/svn/branches/meta-data-versioning/.

But the subversion client libraries were not really applicable for this
usage; the local storing of the unmodified files needed a lot of space,
the ".svn" directories with 4 files for each versioned item used too many
inodes, and subversion was simply too slow to show a status on 15
files. And so on and so on. (4)


So I started a new frontend for subversion repositories: fsvs.
It uses a subversion backend, stores meta-data (5), accepts most file
types (6), and has some speed improvements against subversion (7).

The current status is:
- It has (with doxygen-documentation in work) 17000 lines (*.h, *.c); without
  comments, brace-only-lines ("{" and "}") and empty lines 6500 code-lines
  remain. So it's still an maintainable project.
- It has currently version 1.1.0; there are 40 subscribers on freshmeat,
  each release gets some hundred downloads, there are some other people more
  or less actively helping (mostly bug-reports).
- The easiest case is unidirectional usage -- doing only commits (backup) or
  updates (restore).
- It's always possible to "export" some part of an repository to an arbitrary
  directory - so the backup machine can always restore some parts, too.
- Doing updates/commits in a working copy works.
- The known problems are with multi-url updates (8), ie. overlaying
  multiple URLs into a single destination directory.

The wanted/needed features are:
- Extensions to a few standard commands ("diff" and "revert" for trees)
- Handling of user-defined properties, with a few special features (9)
- Improvements to the ignore patterns (syntax, and features)
- The subversion libraries could make use of some features already in the
  issue database (10)
- And the most important thing: full multi-url operations.


This last point is where I expect fsvs to be of *real* value.
I want fsvs to be able to merge a set of URLs locally (one for each package),
just like unionfs would do (11). Higher priority URLs would override the
lower priority ones; changes would get applied as difference, so a locally
changed configuration file would normally simply be updated.

But: there can be conflicts; handling these is likely to be a lot of work.
My first solution is to *not* merge, but simply keep the "highest" version,
with locally changed files being above all others.

The set of files *not* being in any of the source-URLs would be committable
to another repository URL, so that the "local" configuration could be stored
and re-used.


So, why am I writing this?
- First

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> message to its intended target is a hard thing. How about having 'text
> ads' on the pages of the Debian site that showcase a 'request for help'
> or similar?

I don't like ads.  Ads are annoying.  That doesn't mean they don't
work.  If I need some information I usually know where to look for it
(for information that is conveyed in an ad anyway).

An innocent potential helper will probably start at www.d.o and find
the "Help Debian" link.  Following that whould lead to all information
needed.  The next thing one might try is the "Developers Corner"

If help requests are not accessible through those channels chances are
slim that they will be noticed by the target audience. IMHO

Matthias


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Bug#413998: ITP: giggle -- Gtk+ frontend for the git directory tracker

2007-03-08 Thread Andrea Corradi
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrea Corradi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: giggle
  Version : 0.1.z
  Upstream Author : Carlos Garnacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mikael Hallendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Richard Hult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://developer.imendio.com/projects/giggle
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Gtk+ frontend for the git directory tracker

  Giggle is a revision tree visualizer for git

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.19.1-inuhiko
Locale: LANG=it_IT, LC_CTYPE=it_IT (charmap=ISO-8859-1)


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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:12:52AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
> Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > message to its intended target is a hard thing. How about having 'text
> > ads' on the pages of the Debian site that showcase a 'request for help'
> > or similar?
> 
> I don't like ads.  Ads are annoying.  That doesn't mean they don't
> work.  If I need some information I usually know where to look for it
> (for information that is conveyed in an ad anyway).
> 
> An innocent potential helper will probably start at www.d.o and find
> the "Help Debian" link.  Following that whould lead to all information
> needed.  The next thing one might try is the "Developers Corner"
> 
> If help requests are not accessible through those channels chances are
> slim that they will be noticed by the target audience. IMHO

  It will likely be one of my last post on that matter because I feel
that valuable contributors left it long ago.

  You're (not you Matthias, You the other people with those ideas) take
the problem from the wrong side. The question is not about _how_ to
attract people, but how did people that are now valuable contributors
were attracted to what they do right now. When you'll know that we will
be able to improve those things so that it gets even more attractive
than now.

  I think I was a quite decent contributor for the kde group. I worked
with those people because the project was on alioth, that the team was
nice and open, and that there was an active IRC channel to talk with
people on. I never went on debian.org that is the last idea I would have
had to find an information, given how badly the site is designed and
organized.

  I never knew about debian.org//help page before today. And I've
never read RFH's for that, as again IMHO it's like some alarm thing, not
meant as a permanent thing. Now everyone's experience is different. But
ask that to good contributors, and you'll know what is important. Just
know that none of the suggestions made so far would have helped me more
when I was searching who/what to help, it would even have bored me.


  shouting for help everywhere is like noise: it's absurdly painful, and
will itch people way too much.

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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> ] ] > >   Again, I do not appreciate the latent criticism of the big teams
> ] ] > >   to
> ] ] > > hide their understaff problem. It's blatantly bogus hence iritating,
> ] ] > > almost insulting.
> ] ] >
> ] ] > Don't you wonder why it is perceived like that?
>
>   Which do seem like a quite not very hidden accusation, so yes, somebody
> is playing finger-pointing games here, and I'm tired of it.

Actually, I am trying to not to accuse anybody of anything and not to
point fingers.  I know that you are very active within Debian and I
appreciate the work you do.  The same is true for many contributors.

I just meant there must be a reason if many people say: "I didn't now
you needed help."  Appearently you and others were unsuccessful in
conveying the message that you do need help.

And I was trying to promote the idea to use a central and permanently
visible platform for such help requests (the RFH list).

And I don't mean at all to say: "Blame yourself for not getting help
because you didn't send in a RFH!"

Matthias


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Re: Bug#413575: debian-policy: New virtual package: dictd-dictionary

2007-03-08 Thread Mikhail Gusarov

Twas brillig at 22:49:55 08.03.2007 UTC+09 when Tatsuya Kinoshita did gyre and 
gimble:

 TK> Again, I recommend to add the virtual package:
 TK>  dictd-dictionarya dictionary for the dictd dictionary server

I'm +1 for this.

Actually, we do suggest 'apt-cache rdepends dictd' in FAQ on
debian-russian.org to find all the dictionaries, which is not obvious
nor correct :)

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Re: Bug#413987: ITP: openjpeg -- JPEG 2000 image compression codec library

2007-03-08 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 12:08:34AM +1100, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
> I have preliminary 1.1 packages which I need to update to 1.1.1, and
> once I've done that I'll be seeking a sponsor on debian-mentors unless
> I am approached beforehand. (hint hint ^_^)
> 
> I'm packaging this as a dependancy of secondlife-client
> 

Just I wonder if/how it's better than Jasper for jpeg2k. Any hints about
that?

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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>   It will likely be one of my last post on that matter because I feel
> that valuable contributors left it long ago.

gee, thanks for the (probably unintented as the above statement includes 
yourself) implied insult

> You're (not you Matthias, You the other people with those ideas) take
> the problem from the wrong side. The question is not about _how_ to
> attract people, 

> but how did people that are now valuable contributors were attracted to
> what they do right now. When you'll know that we will be able to improve
> those things so that it gets even more attractive than now.

err ... logical flaw above "look at how current contributors got attracted, 
and improve on what attracted them" is a particular solution to the 
question "how do we go about attracting people"

Also as I've pointed out several times in this thread now:
_I_ got attracted as contributor to Debian because I saw a mail asking for 
help with something small and easy (and that gave an easy step-by-step on 
how to get involved with that). 

-> the approach of sending mails asking for help that you've labeled
   pointless is an example of exactly what you say you're looking for above.

> Just know that none of the suggestions made so far would have helped me
> more when I was searching who/what to help, it would even have bored me.

point to keep in mind is that "people are different, respond to different 
things, and take different approaches"

-> periodically asking in different ways makes sense,
   as does trying to making sure that whatever the path somebody might take 
   to getting involved. That someone is likely to notice your request for
   help.

> shouting for help everywhere is like noise: it's absurdly painful, and
> will itch people way too much.

There's a difference between 'shouting' and 'politely and invitingly asking 
for help' (or to use your metaphore noise has levels it's not a question of 
noise or no noise).

As usual the key is balance:

- you don't want to overdo it by constantly spamming every available
  channel. 

- But you don't want to go to the other extreme either.

  For example (and please keep in mind that I do _not_ mean this to be an
  attack on either you or the kde team) the information in this thread tells
  me that it has been over a year since the single mail from the kde team
  asking for help with bugs. 

  Now that undoubtfully doesn't give the entire picture, as I'm sure
  there've been RFH's in other channels then debian-kde.

  Still it's been over a year since the last RFH on the debian-kde list,
  that's a rather long time. IMO a frequency of a couple (say 3 or 4) of
  RFH's per year would seem more likely to produce results.

That said nobody is forcing you or any other DD/packaging team to ask for 
help in any particular way (or at all). So no need to get all worked up, if 
you find the suggestions in this thread impractical/useless then by all 
means ignore them, they're only suggestions.
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Bug#414028: ITP: python-html5lib -- Library for working with HTML5 documents

2007-03-08 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: python-html5lib
  Version : 0.2
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Library for working with HTML5 documents

html5lib is a pure-python library for parsing HTML. It is designed to
conform to the Web Applications 1.0 specification, which has
formalized the error handling algorithms of popular web browsers.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.20
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Re: Bug#412570: ITP: fldigi -- digital modem program for hamradio operators

2007-03-08 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>   
>> I would suggest adding a word about the interface - is it a GUI or
>> console program?
>> 
>
> FLTK is a GUI toolkit.
>
>   
Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks.



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dpkg-genchanges: warning: package XYZ in control file but not in files list

2007-03-08 Thread Roman Müllenschläder
Hi there ...

I've got a little problem ;)

In my debian package there usualy are 4 debs (3 flavours + common) been built. 
I've created the rules to be to choose between a minimum of 2 
(standard-flavour + common) and the maximum of 4 packages.

If a user wants to compile the package on his own (maybe he wants to change 
configure options) he is able to select the flavours he wants and he has not 
to build all 4 packages if he only needs 2 (time saving).

Problem is now, if not all 4 packages are built, I do get a warning like:
dpkg-genchanges: warning: package XYZ in control file but not in files list

This is ok, cause all 4 packages are in control but only 2 or 3 are built.

What should I do?

Let a warning only be a warning?

Dynamically change control? How that?

Not make it possible to compile less packages than control mentions?

Lg
Roman


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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:12:52AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
> Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > message to its intended target is a hard thing. How about having 'text
> > ads' on the pages of the Debian site that showcase a 'request for help'
> > or similar?
> 
> I don't like ads.  Ads are annoying.  That doesn't mean they don't
> work.  If I need some information I usually know where to look for it
> (for information that is conveyed in an ad anyway).

I see no harm in addressing the issue in multiple ways. I have no
problem with a FLOSS project 'asking' for help in an ad. I dont like ads
for most other things. People take multiple paths to find stuff. Instead
of assuming that 'if I found it, then everyone can!', I'd simply like to
increase the avenues for people to find the help requests. More
pageviews of help requests, the more possible help. I'd simply like for
it to be given a trial rather than 'I know it will not work, therefore
it must not be tried'.

> 
> An innocent potential helper will probably start at www.d.o and find
> the "Help Debian" link.  Following that whould lead to all information
> needed.  The next thing one might try is the "Developers Corner"

see above.

> 
> If help requests are not accessible through those channels chances are
> slim that they will be noticed by the target audience. IMHO

see above.

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Re: dpkg-genchanges: warning: package XYZ in control file but not in files list

2007-03-08 Thread Roman Müllenschläder
Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2007 schrieb Roman Müllenschläder:
> Hi there ...
>
> I've got a little problem ;)

Sorry .. will never user reply for a new message anymore ;)

Lg
Roman



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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:43:39PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:

>   It will likely be one of my last post on that matter because I feel
> that valuable contributors left it long ago.

Would it be useful to personally email those people and 'ask them why' as
a way to address the issue?

> 
>   You're (not you Matthias, You the other people with those ideas) take
> the problem from the wrong side. The question is not about _how_ to
> attract people, but how did people that are now valuable contributors
> were attracted to what they do right now. When you'll know that we will
> be able to improve those things so that it gets even more attractive
> than now.

attracting and keeping people are 2 different things. Are you suggesting
that debian-kde is attacting sufficient people but lately has had people
leave for specific reasons?

> 
>   I think I was a quite decent contributor for the kde group. I worked
> with those people because the project was on alioth, that the team was
> nice and open, and that there was an active IRC channel to talk with
> people on.

this sounds like a collegial and active community with many useful and
friendly communication channels! Are any of those missing in other
Debian subprojects? 


> I never went on debian.org that is the last idea I would have
> had to find an information, given how badly the site is designed and
> organized.

So you seem to seperate the 'alioth' environment from the 'debian.org'
environment in your mind because of the more positive associations you've
had with it. Makes sense to stay there and not wander elsewhere.

> 
>   I never knew about debian.org//help page before today. And I've
> never read RFH's for that, as again IMHO it's like some alarm thing, not
> meant as a permanent thing. Now everyone's experience is different. But
> ask that to good contributors, and you'll know what is important.

see first comment.

>  Just
> know that none of the suggestions made so far would have helped me more
> when I was searching who/what to help, it would even have bored me.

Which is why multiple should be used.

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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I see no harm in addressing the issue in multiple ways. I have no
> problem with a FLOSS project 'asking' for help in an ad. I dont like ads
> for most other things. People take multiple paths to find stuff. Instead
> of assuming that 'if I found it, then everyone can!', I'd simply like to
> increase the avenues for people to find the help requests. More
> pageviews of help requests, the more possible help. I'd simply like for
> it to be given a trial rather than 'I know it will not work, therefore
> it must not be tried'.

Ads for non-commercial stuff are a little better than commercial ads.

There is nothing wrong with publicizing a help request through several
different channels.  One can send an RFH, write a wiki page, post it
on Alioth or on some mailing list.  What I wouldn't like too much is a
banner on www.d.o

A clearly labelled link to the relevant information should be
sufficient.  I think it is better to make information easily
accessible for someone who is interested in it than to push it out to
everyone.

Matthias



Bug#414077: ITP: jruby -- JRuby is a Java implementation of the Ruby interpreter

2007-03-08 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastien Delafond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: jruby
  Version : 0.9.8
  Upstream Author : The JRuby Team
* URL : http://jruby.codehaus.org/
* License : tri license CPL/GPL/LGPL
  Programming Lang: Ruby, Java
  Description : JRuby is a Java implementation of the Ruby interpreter

JRuby is tightly integrated with Java to allow the embedding of the
interpreter into any Java application with full two-way access between
the Java and the Ruby code.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18
Locale: LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)


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A request for your input.

2007-03-08 Thread lmth

Hello

My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University
Australia.  I am currently researching the boundary between work and
leisure activities directly related to the open source community and
open source program development.

As part of this I am running a survey at the following address.

https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/

The survey is completely confidential and looks at your views and
motivations to use Open Source software and to participate in the
community.

It will only take a five to ten minutes to complete and your contact
details will not be
recorded. You can withdraw your participation at any stage.

I sincerely apologize for the spammish nature of this e-mail - I
don't mean to abuse this list.  I am trying to collect responses
from as many open source developers and users as possible and a
mailing list like can be the only way to reach many developers.

Thanks again

Lara

P.S The program that I am using is open source, of course
(www.phpsurveyor.org)!




Re: A request for your input.

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 05:07:00PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello
> 
> My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University
> Australia.  I am currently researching the boundary between work and
> leisure activities directly related to the open source community and
> open source program development.
> 
> As part of this I am running a survey at the following address.
> 
> https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/
> 
> The survey is completely confidential and looks at your views and
> motivations to use Open Source software and to participate in the
> community.
> 
> It will only take a five to ten minutes to complete and your contact
> details will not be
> recorded. You can withdraw your participation at any stage.
> 
> I sincerely apologize for the spammish nature of this e-mail - I
> don't mean to abuse this list.  I am trying to collect responses
> from as many open source developers and users as possible and a
> mailing list like can be the only way to reach many developers.
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Lara
Are you looking for people who merely 'use Open Source software' or
specifically the Developers of 'Open Source software'? I ask because
this list primarily read by Debian Developers. If you want 'mere users',
You may want to look at lists.debian.org and email the various
debian-user lists (which include non-english language lists also).
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Re: A request for your input.

2007-03-08 Thread lmth

Quoting Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 05:07:00PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello

My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University
Australia.  I am currently researching the boundary between work and
leisure activities directly related to the open source community and
open source program development.

As part of this I am running a survey at the following address.

https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/

The survey is completely confidential and looks at your views and
motivations to use Open Source software and to participate in the
community.

It will only take a five to ten minutes to complete and your contact
details will not be
recorded. You can withdraw your participation at any stage.

I sincerely apologize for the spammish nature of this e-mail - I
don't mean to abuse this list.  I am trying to collect responses
from as many open source developers and users as possible and a
mailing list like can be the only way to reach many developers.

Thanks again

Lara

Are you looking for people who merely 'use Open Source software' or
specifically the Developers of 'Open Source software'? I ask because
this list primarily read by Debian Developers. If you want 'mere users',
You may want to look at lists.debian.org and email the various
debian-user lists (which include non-english language lists also).
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Kevin,
thanks for your reply, I'm looking for both but more specifically  
developers who would normally be the ones having more involvement in  
open source projects.


thanks
Lara



new BTS stanza

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi,
this is the opening of the bts page for subversion:
===
Debian Bug report logs: package subversion in unstable (version
1.4.2dfsg1-2)

Maintainer for subversion is Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

You may want to refer to the following packages that are part of the
same source: libapache2-svn, libsvn-core-perl, libsvn-dev, libsvn-doc,
libsvn-java, libsvn-javahl, libsvn-perl, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8,
libsvn0, libsvn0-dev, libsvn1, python-subversion, python2.3-subversion,
subversion-tools.

You might like to refer to the subversion package page, to the Package
Tracking System, or to the source package subversion's bug page.

If you find a bug not listed here, please report it.

See the archived reports
..
==
Since folks visit this page to learn about Debian bugs, I thought why
not add a pointer to places where they can help fix the bugs (and make
other improvements). This can be done by adding something like this to
the above bts page:

These resources are available to discuss package bugs and possible
ways you can contribute fixes and other improvements for this package:


http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-subversion/

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-subversion-maintainers/


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Work-needing packages report for Mar 9, 2007

2007-03-08 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 357 (new: 4)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 88 (new: 1)
Total number of packages requested help for: 42 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   ami (#413305), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: An X input method server for Korean text input
 Installations reported by Popcon: 16

   bongo (#413148), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: flexible and usable media player for Emacs
 Installations reported by Popcon: 41

   emacs-snapshot (#413149), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot)
 Reverse Depends: artist auctex bigloo-ude bongo cmail ddskk
   dictionary-el ecasound-el edb egg (30 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 615

   tramp (#413146), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: remote file access in Emacs
 Installations reported by Popcon: 534

353 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   enscript (#413482), offered 3 days ago
 Description: Converts ASCII text to Postscript, HTML, RTF or
   Pretty-Print
 Reverse Depends: hylafax-client kdeprint magicfilter rhinote
 Installations reported by Popcon: 10147

87 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   aboot (#315592), requested 623 days ago
 Description: Alpha bootloader: Looking for co-maintainers
 Reverse Depends: aboot aboot-cross dfsbuild ltsp-client
 Installations reported by Popcon: 60

   apt-build (#365427), requested 313 days ago
 Description: Need new developer(s)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 650

   apt-cacher (#403584), requested 80 days ago
 Description: caching proxy system for Debian package and source
   files
 Installations reported by Popcon: 268

   apt-show-versions (#382026), requested 212 days ago
 Description: lists available package versions with distribution
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2289

   athcool (#278442), requested 863 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 255

   audacity (#397166), requested 123 days ago
 Description: looking for co-maintainer
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2810

   cdw (#398252), requested 116 days ago
 Description: Tool for burning CD's - console version
 Reverse Depends: cdw gcdw
 Installations reported by Popcon: 245

   cvs (#354176), requested 378 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: bonsai crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage
   cvs2cl cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta (17
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 12299

   docbook (#358522), requested 351 days ago
 Description: standard SGML representation system for technical
   documents
 Reverse Depends: alcovebook-sgml docbook-dsssl docbook-to-man
   sgmltools-lite
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3907

   docbook-xml (#358520), requested 351 days ago
 Description: standard XML documentation system, for software and
   systems
 Reverse Depends: dblatex docbook-dsssl docbook-ebnf
   docbook-html-forms docbook-jrefentry docbook-mathml docbook-simple
   docbook-slides docbook-website docbook-xsl-stylesheets-ko (6 more
   omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 19481

   dpkg (#282283), requested 838 days ago
 Description: dselect: a user tool to manage Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: alien alsa-source apt-build apt-cross apt-src
   backuppc build-essential clamsmtp crosshurd cvs-autoreleasedeb (84
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 29536

   gpsdrive (#406522), requested 56 days ago
 Description: Car navigation system
 Installations reported by Popcon: 316

   grub (#248397), requested 1032 days ago
 Description: GRand Unified Bootloader
 Reverse Depends: dfsbuild grub-splashimages replicator
 Installations reported by Popcon: 25545

   gtkpod (#319711), requested 592 days ago
 Description: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
 Installations reported by Popcon: 508

   ispell-et (#391105), requested 155 days ago
 Description: Estonian dictionary for Aspell/Ispell/MySpell
 Installations reported by