Re: Packaging a Python module built with autoconf using CDBS
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007, Ian Wienand wrote: > Can anyone help, or suggest another package that has already solved > this problem which I can work from? You can check svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gnome-menus which builds multiple versions for python-gmenu (but ships other packages). There are other examples of multi builds with CDBS, such as desktop/experimental/gtk2-engines, but these hacks are not really suited if your package only ships a Python package. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#411833: ITP: gozerbot -- An IRC and Jabber bot written in Python
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jeremy Malcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gozerbot Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : Bas van Oostveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://r8.cg.nu/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : An IRC and Jabber bot written in Python This is a bot which can simultaneously inhabit one or more IRC channels and Jabber services, providing facilities such as: . - Fetching RSS feeds - Keeping to-do and shopping lists - Relaying between bot instances - Anything else you develop a plugin to do -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.4.26-3um Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 20:55 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : >> > Does XFS require fscks? Reiserfs does not. Maybe it is time to ditch >> > ext3. >> >> ReiserFS requires as much fsck as ext3. > > But it is much faster. It is called rebuild-tree and takes much much longer. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 21:47, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 20:55 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > >> > Does XFS require fscks? Reiserfs does not. Maybe it is time to ditch > >> > ext3. > >> > >> ReiserFS requires as much fsck as ext3. > > > > But it is much faster. > > It is called rebuild-tree and takes much much longer. The rebuild-tree operation is an extensive fsck operation that is not used in normal situations. OTOH not only is rebuild-tree slow but if you have a filesystem image in the filesystem (for loopback mounts) then things go horribly wrong. With Ext3 if you fsck the results are pretty much what you expect, an ext3 image in the filesystem will remain as just a single file. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.blogspot.com/ My Blog http://www.coker.com.au/sponsorship.html Sponsoring Free Software development
Re: Plug applications into browsers
Hello I had wanted to use MSYS to develop for the other platform. Most of my experience is with WIN32 API, ATL3/COM+ and DirectX on the other platform. Ron Johnson wrote: Huh? ActiveX is woven deeply into, and relies upon the Win32 API. Yes. 1 I want to develop on Linux only. Writing: a) An Active X for Windows b) Linux equivalent c) MacOS equivalent through QT d) Java applet (for all) e) Some other platform bits I need not bother you with. I suppose you might take example from one of the cooperate AV companies who have an executable for each platform the target. For more than a decade, Java and JavaScript applets have been able to run from within the "Netscape" browser. What exactly do *you* mean by plug-in? For example a stream client. I will use Java but I want a backup. On all platforms it seems possible to write a separate application but in no real way integrated with the browser. Obviously I am being a little lazy by asking if anyone has heard of such a thing so that I can make use of that information however it seemed sensible since I have looked, not found and will now head for the development documentation for all browsers as a sensible path. There are however other ways round which may be more realistic than a plug in for each browser. With Windows because of the way programs can be enclosed development time is reduced a little. If this translates to Linux or perhaps just per browser that is a benefit. Realistically these questions should perhaps go to every single browser mailing list but it seemed sensible to ask here first. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF29I9S9HxQb37XmcRAgrhAJ9ZppmRH96Ia88UlfhTAW3oelcVEwCcDAD1 LeQGxm0FZCNY0XkH03InI8A= =+TDn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnucash and etch freeze
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 08:18:58PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > One of the unfortunate side-effects of a freeze is that it becomes very > hard to get necessary changes into etch when an upstream package is a > more rapidly moving target. > In the four months since gnucash 2.0.2 was released, much development > has happened, and upstream has released several more versions. The > general reliability of the program is much improved, with a thousand > small annoyances and crashes fixed. I am told also that some of these > fixes include security-related issues (most importantly, vulnerabilities > through /tmp). > Now I simply do not have the time to go through the changelog, pick out > changes that I think should be in etch and do them. > If the release team shrugs and says, well, ok, go ahead and upload the > new version and we'll consider it as-is for etch, that would be great, > but my understanding is that this is contrary to the release policy. Is > my understanding correct? Does the new upstream version fix the bug in 2.0.2 where it doesn't know the right direction to apply interest payments on bank accounts? I could probably be persuaded to spend quite a disproportionate amount of time reviewing a gnucash update if it takes care of that for me. Alternatively, I accept bribes in the form of RC bugfixes wrapped up with a bow on top. (/Not/ in the same package, it doesn't exactly save the release team any time in that case...) Anyway, there's no hard and fast policy against new upstream versions being allowed in during the freeze. The guidelines are those posted to d-d-a -- we want debdiffs to be small and free of extraneous changes so that they can be quickly reviewed without spending a lot of time puzzling over the impact of changes that aren't relevant in the first place to bugfixes that would warrant a freeze exception. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:47:07AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 20:55 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > >> > Does XFS require fscks? Reiserfs does not. Maybe it is time to ditch > >> > ext3. > >> > >> ReiserFS requires as much fsck as ext3. > > > > But it is much faster. > > It is called rebuild-tree and takes much much longer. And a lot, lot less likely to succeed. Be prepared to have every single file over 4K on the whole filesystem lost if there's a single inconsistency somewhere. ext3, on the other hand, is pretty damn resilient, keeping any damage quite localised. From limited anectodal evidence, I would place JFS and XFS somewhere in the middle. -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release-critical Bugreport for February 17, 2007
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:42:34PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 17 février 2007 à 11:24 +, BugScan reporter a écrit : >> Bug stamp-out list for -17 06:00 ps (CST) >> Total number of release-critical bugs: 541 > This list has become too long to be of any use to the d-d-a > readers. I think it should get the same kind of improvements the > wnpp scanner did. > How about e.g. listing only bugs more than a few days old, that > weren't already in the previous listing? They could also be split > into categories, depending on the tags. And the most important: List comaintainers! -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Review for NMU for mrd6
Marco d'Itri wrote: > Hugo is the upstream maintainer of mrd6 and he committed it, so it > should be correct. Yes, and thanks! We managed to get in contact with Hugo and he's already half-tricked into adopting mrd6 :) Happy hacking! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
Le mercredi 21 février 2007 à 11:47 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > >> ReiserFS requires as much fsck as ext3. > > > > But it is much faster. > > It is called rebuild-tree and takes much much longer. Rebuild-tree is a last-measure operation when the filesystem is too corrupted for a regular fsck. You shouldn't even expect the filesystem to be as it's supposed to be after such an operation. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile.
From Charles Cole (UK)
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Re: Bug#411617: ITP: ivtv-firmware -- firmware for the ivtv kernel driver
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 01:38 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/21/07 00:59, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 18:51 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:06:45PM -0500, Edward Allcutt wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 07:26 +, Ian Campbell wrote: > 2. You may not copy, modify, rent, sell, distribute or transfer > any part of the Firmware except as provided in this Agreement, and > you agree to prevent unauthorized copying of the Firmware. > >>> I'm not sure how the Debian project can prevent unauthorized copying... > >>> > >> I thought that as well, but it appears that they clause is part of the > >> end user license agreement. Since Debian is not an end user, rather an > >> ISV in their terms, that clause does not specifically apply to Debian. Well then we would have no permission to distribute it at all (unless somehow we qualify as an OEM, which I don't see). > > How about individual mirror operators? They should not be prevented > > from using this software because they also distribute it. > > > > (Why do companies care about "unauthorised" copying of firmware that's > > essential to and only useful for their hardware? I've never understood > > this. Perhaps it's something the lawyers put in by default.) > > Unauthorized copying seems to mean "copy it so you can disassemble > and reverse engineer the driver". How does a mirror operator know what people wish to do with it? It seems to be that Debian would need to get special permission for distribution from Hauppuage, as itvdriver.org appears to have done (http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/ says "I am very grateful for Hauppauge for giving us the permission to redistribute these firmwares.") This is probably best discussed on debian-legal though, isn't it? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption] would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers. - Bill Gates signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:36:21AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:29:46 +0900 > > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > how about a "I'm in a hurry" boot option in GRUB, which would make the > > > e2fscks skipped ? > > > > Too early. You might not know that a check is due. > > Perfect time: you already know you are in a hurry. It could be possible > to use other tricks to shorten the boot cycle. I can't think of any at > the moment, but that does not mean that they don't exist. > > Does XFS require fscks? Reiserfs does not. Maybe it is time to ditch > ext3. You don't *have* to do the periodic checks. If you want you can disable it using tune2fs. "tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/hdXX". The reason why ext3 has periodic checking is a *feature*, born out of the recognition that hardware is not perfect, and in fact, commodity class hardware can and does fail in various entertaining ways. By running e2fsck periodically, we hope to catch problems while they are small, instead of after massive data loss. But hey, if you know you have perfect hardware, and you do regular backups (YOU DO REGULAR BACKUPS, **RIGHT**?), hey, feel free to disable the periodic fsck's, or dial them back to a higher level. (For me, since I normally use suspend to disk/ram quite a lot on my laptop, the periodic check happens quite rarely --- except when I am rebooting a lot due to trying out lots of different kernels, but then I *want* to do the periodic checks just in case a kernel bug caused a filesystem corruption problem.) Finally, I will note that different filesystems generally get tuned to assume different use cases. XFS in particular fundamentally assumes that you are using drives (i.e., RAID at high levels) in data center conditions, and that you have a UPS to protect your system from power failures. (Yes it has a journal but the way it prevents security breaches if it's not sure the data block was written before the metadata was is to zero out the data block). Ext3 is more often used in cheap-*ss commodity equipment or for equipment with less-than-perfect drives (like laptop drives that tend to get banged around a lot when people shove the laptop into their knapsack and start walking off while the suspend-to-disk is in process), so it has a bit more paranoia about hardware designed into it. Regards, - Ted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:14:21PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 20:55 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > > Does XFS require fscks? Reiserfs does not. Maybe it is time to ditch > > > ext3. > > > > ReiserFS requires as much fsck as ext3. > > But it is much faster. In the worst case, when the filesystem is badly corrupted, ReiserFS will require reading every single data block off the disk, at which point it will look for every single block that *looks* like it might be part of an Reiserfs b-tree, and stich it together. The results if you have multiple Reiserfs filesystem images (for use by qemu, UML, Xen, VMware, etc.) in a resierfs filesystem, and the filesystem is badly corrupted, I will leave to you to imagine. (But a scene from from your favorite frankenstien movie might not be a bad place to start. :-) Also, reading every single data block from disk will almost certainly take longer than an ext3 filesystem check, which is one of the advantages of having a fixed inode table; ext3 knows where to start. - Ted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#411880: ITP: libglazedlists-java -- java list transformation library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libglazedlists-java Version : 1.7.0 Upstream Author : publicobject.com, O'Dell Engineering Ltd. * URL : http://www.publicobject.com/glazedlists/ * License : LGPL, MPL Programming Lang: Java Description : java list transformation library Glaced Lists features: * API Compatibility with ArrayList * Generic TableModels * Easy dynamic filtering & sorting * High performance * Designed for concurrency * Swing or SWT * Free and open (libglazedlists-java is needed by JabRef, cf. #389068) - -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18.200702071959 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF3Gj+OzKYnQDzz+QRAlA4AJ4smQAxcrzmZuNXHTt2yZUauLAftgCfSNce qqtjWQTskPyORx/bpqKZKaI= =9MKu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plug applications into browsers
Am Mittwoch 21 Februar 2007 12:11 schrieb Howard Young: > For example a stream client. > I will use Java but I want a backup. > On all platforms it seems possible to write a separate application but > in no real way integrated with the browser. This very much depends on what you want to do. Netscape-style plugins work in many browsers, e.g. konqueror can use them, too, like it uses the plugin for flash. If you want media streaming, every platform comes with integrated media players (konqueror->kaffeine, IE->WMP). If you want an interactive application, you can use Java, Flash or use some Web2.0 stuff. But this is not the right list to discuss web development stuff. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Debian ISOs
Hendrik makes me think that ktorrent would be another good idea. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
