Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 13, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think this has a rather simple solution (for lenny?).
It does not, since there are multiple inet superserver daemons with
incompatible configuration file formats.
Now that I finally have been allowed to split update-inetd from netbase
their maintainers will be able to make them replace the standard inetd
as first class citizens of the system.

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Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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hi,

Am Sa den 13. Jan 2007 um  1:18 schrieb Roger Leigh:
> > c) update-inetd should default to creating none unless explicitly told
> >to. This has the advantage of staying secure if a dau admin install a
> >package accidentally.
> 
> This would not square with the current practice of defaulting to a
> secure but functional service when you install a package.  If you
> didn't want to run it, you wouldn't install it.  The admin always has
> the option of commenting it out.

Well, but it would be the way a daemon has to work. As admin I do never
like to have a deamon enabled before I configure it properly. And some
packages install a server as dependencies. (Sure, this is a bug.)

> I've been exposed to using Fedora recently, which takes the approach
> you suggest of requiring explicit enabling of *everything*, and it's a

I do not see the point. Fedora do enable everything what is needed to
run the system. All deamons which are not needed essentially are
disabled by default. (Other think is the strange dependencies in RedHats
Fedora.)

> complete pain.  Trying to discover the thing to tweak to get a daemon
> to work is rather annoying; intentionally "crippling" a package by
> default is not IMO the way to go.

Hmm. I don't think so. It is easy to do a "update-inetd --enable
whatever". Moreover in my eyes the functionality should be the same if
inetd or xinetd is uses (like RedHats chkconfig do).

And the mess is at the moment there is no way of NOT to install any
superserver at all. There is software you don't want to run as deamon
but having dependencies for inetd or (better) update-inetd. And there
are also packages arround NOT having dependencies for update-inetd but
using it in postinst and/or prerm.

Wishes
   Klaus Ethgen
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Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:21:35PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:

> > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in
> > > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries after upgrade
> > > is complete?

> > No, they shouldn't, because this loses local modifications to the inetd.conf
> > line.

> Actually it doesn't.

> If you call update-inetd with --disable in prerm it just prepends
> "## " to your line (if the service is enabled), and when you call
> it in postinst with --enable it will remove the "## ".

> Running --enable will not touch any lines without the magic '## '
> token, so if the admin commented out the line with just # (or anything
> not ##) the service will stay disabled, thereby preserving the
> admin's configuration.

Hmm, ack.

Though one of Brian's questions was about services "that should be disabled
by default"; disabling those on prerm without enabling them on postinst
would be wrong because it loses the admin's choice to enable the service.
Disabling them on prerm and enabling them on postinst would be wrong because
then it wouldn't be disabled by default.  The only reasonable option I see
for that case is to call neither --enable nor --disable for the service.

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Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:21:35PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:
> 
> > > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in
> > > > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries after upgrade
> > > > is complete?
> 
> > > No, they shouldn't, because this loses local modifications to the 
> > > inetd.conf
> > > line.
> 
> > Actually it doesn't.
> 
> > If you call update-inetd with --disable in prerm it just prepends
> > "## " to your line (if the service is enabled), and when you call
> > it in postinst with --enable it will remove the "## ".
> 
> > Running --enable will not touch any lines without the magic '## '
> > token, so if the admin commented out the line with just # (or anything
> > not ##) the service will stay disabled, thereby preserving the
> > admin's configuration.
> 
> Hmm, ack.
> 
> Though one of Brian's questions was about services "that should be disabled
> by default"; disabling those on prerm without enabling them on postinst
> would be wrong because it loses the admin's choice to enable the service.
> Disabling them on prerm and enabling them on postinst would be wrong because
> then it wouldn't be disabled by default.  The only reasonable option I see
> for that case is to call neither --enable nor --disable for the service.


The solution in this case is to install the service with just a #, like
kerberos already does:

| echidna:/var/lib/dpkg/info# grep hprop_entry heimdal-kdc.postinst
| hprop_entry="#krb_prop  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd 
/usr/sbin/hpropd"
|   update-inetd --group KRB5 --add "$hprop_entry"

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Bug#406848: ITP: hannah -- Help Hannah's Horse is a pacman-like game, child oriented

2007-01-14 Thread Margarita Manterola
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: hannah
  Version : 0.2.a
  Upstream Author : Stephen Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/hannah/
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : Help Hannah's Horse is a pacman-like game, child oriented

 Help Hannah's Horse is like a cross between Pacman and the Dizzy game
 "Fastfood". The objective to to move Hannah to collect the pills around
 the maze while avoiding the ghosts. Moving around the maze there are
 also
 carrots which Hannah must also collect in order to complete the level.


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Bug#406905: ITP: cd5 -- Compute checksum of individual track on CD-ROMS

2007-01-14 Thread Florent Bayle
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* Package name: cd5
  Version : 0.1
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* URL : http://projects.meuh.org/cd5/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Compute checksum of individual track on CD-ROMS

CD-ROM Digest is a program that checks a multi-track CD-ROM.
It reports the MD5 digest and size for each track on a CD-ROM.
The digest is done as the track is read, without dumping CD-ROM data
on the hard drive. This tool helps users that are burning a
multi-track CD-ROM to check the result.

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Bug#406935: ITP: ledger-smb -- A web based double-entry accounting program

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Schultheiss
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* Package name: ledger-smb
  Version : 1.1.7
  Upstream Author : LedgerSMB Core Team
* URL : http://www.ledgersmb.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : A web based double-entry accounting program

LedgerSMB is a double-entry accounting system written in Perl.  Data is
stored in a SQL database server and displayed through a web browser.
The system is linked by a chart of accounts.  All transactions for AR,
AP, and GL are stored in a transaction table.  Hyperlinks from the chart
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