Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Steinar H. Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:49PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote:
> > I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get
> > remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed
> > because of that package.
> 
> Use aptitude -- it has had this functionality for quite a while now.

AFAIK only if the packages were automatically
installed with aptitude. 

And there's another problem: If you installed a
task-package and remove just one of the packages
from that task later, the complete task will be
removed, since they where all automatically
installed.

- Rolf


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Bug#390999: ITP: vxl -- C++ Libraries for Computer Vision Research and Implementation

2006-10-04 Thread Michael Hanke
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: vxl
  Version : 1.6.0
  Upstream Author : VXL maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : Copyright (c) 2000-2006 TargetJr Consortium
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : C++ Libraries for Computer Vision Research and 
Implementation

VXL (the Vision-something-Libraries) is a collection of C++ libraries
designed for computer vision research and implementation. It was created
from TargetJr and the IUE with the aim of making a light, fast and
consistent system. VXL is written in ANSI/ISO C++ and is designed to be
portable over many platforms.

Please see the VXL website for more information. 

http://vxl.sourceforge.net/

The license is available from here:

http://vxl.cvs.sourceforge.net/vxl/vxl/core/vxl_copyright.h?revision=HEAD


I'd like to package this library as a dependency for an upcoming package
of Freesurfer (first open source release in the very near future).

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/

If anyone is already using this library or has experience with it:
Co-maintainers are very welcome!


Cheers,

Michael


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Re: Debian Women Wiki

2006-10-04 Thread Jon Dowland

Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:32:23AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:

Also, as to the question of why is it a wiki, it's because wikis are
easier to edit and update than established documentation.  The
documentation that can only be edited by a few is bound to get
outdated quickly.


I wonder why do we then have a CVS any developer can get access to that
provides all the Debian documentation (DDP) as well as a CVS for all the
website any Debian developer (and even non-DD) can easily contribute to. 
I would urge to go read http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, if you have not done

so already.


With the wiki, anybody can put up a new page, mark it "this is a draft 
or an experiment or a random rambling" and it can be improved by others 
without it being accepted as part of the official site or meeting a 
quality standard for official documentation.


With the site in CVS, someone must check out the site (ok, that's not 
too tough, but does make it harder to do it at work in my lunchbreak), 
make their change, build the site locally, then what? punt the patch at 
the BTS or debian-www? What kind of exposure will a half-baked idea or a 
draft piece of work get that way?


Perhaps the existing route would be more suitable for this kind-of work 
if there was a development website somewhere, which people could push 
patches at without them having to meet a minimum quality standard. Like 
a CVS branch that is published.



If you dislike the current documentation development system in Debian, by all
means, go ahead and improve it or make suggestions of how it fails in the
appropiate mailing list, but do not actively work against it just because you
don't like it.


I do not see how Marga using the d-w wiki is actively working against 
the current documentation system. This really is a storm in a tea cup. 
She has produced something for her own benefit which she has released to 
all because it might be useful to others. If you think what she has 
produced is something that should be in the official documentation, 
that's great: it can be made so! But Marga is not obliged to have done 
so from the start.


Indeed, highlighting the ease with which someone can public something on 
the wiki vs. the traditional method seems like a positive step towards 
improving documentation, by highlighting current defects.



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Re: Debian Women Wiki

2006-10-04 Thread Jon Dowland

Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:32:23AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:

Also, as to the question of why is it a wiki, it's because wikis are
easier to edit and update than established documentation.  The
documentation that can only be edited by a few is bound to get
outdated quickly.


I wonder why do we then have a CVS any developer can get access to that
provides all the Debian documentation (DDP) as well as a CVS for all the
website any Debian developer (and even non-DD) can easily contribute to. 
I would urge to go read http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, if you have not done

so already.


With the wiki, anybody can put up a new page, mark it "this is a draft 
or an experiment or a random rambling" and it can be improved by others 
without it being accepted as part of the official site or meeting a 
quality standard for official documentation.


With the site in CVS, someone must check out the site (ok, that's not 
too tough, but does make it harder to do it at work in my lunchbreak), 
make their change, build the site locally, then what? punt the patch at 
the BTS or debian-www? What kind of exposure will a half-baked idea or a 
draft piece of work get that way?


Perhaps the existing route would be more suitable for this kind-of work 
if there was a development website somewhere, which people could push 
patches at without them having to meet a minimum quality standard. Like 
a CVS branch that is published.



If you dislike the current documentation development system in Debian, by all
means, go ahead and improve it or make suggestions of how it fails in the
appropiate mailing list, but do not actively work against it just because you
don't like it.


I do not see how Marga using the d-w wiki is actively working against 
the current documentation system. This really is a storm in a tea cup. 
She has produced something for her own benefit which she has released to 
all because it might be useful to others. If you think what she has 
produced is something that should be in the official documentation, 
that's great: it can be made so! But Marga is not obliged to have done 
so from the start.


Indeed, highlighting the ease with which someone can public something on 
the wiki vs. the traditional method seems like a positive step towards 
improving documentation, by highlighting current defects.



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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Cool, didn't know that.
> > But it doesn't work for packages that are already installed via apt-get.
> > I guess I'll use aptitude instead of apt-get from now on, and try to
> > cleanup via apt-findremovable :)
> 
> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
> apt-findremovable.

I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
automatically installed.

This needs more work than apt-findremovable however.

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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
>> apt-findremovable.

> I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
> of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
> automatically installed.

Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as apt-get 
and even supports the same command line parameters.


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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
> >> apt-findremovable.
> 
> > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
> > of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
> > automatically installed.
> 
> Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as
> apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters.

Because "aptitude dist-upgrade" didn't work for upgrading my sarge
desktop to etch... it was unable to compute a solution while apt-get did
just fine. And this even if I tried to help him by indicating which
packages to remove and which packages to install.

And dist-upgrading involves lots of installation of new packages... and
removal of old packages.

I aptitude dist-upgrade regularly in my sid chroot without troubles. But
upgrading from one release to the other is almost impossible with aptitude
only, in particular if you have many packages installed with some who have
been removed from Debian in the mean time and so on.

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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:08:50 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
>>> apt-findremovable.
>
>> I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the
>> information of which packages have been explicitely installed and
>> which have been automatically installed.
>
> Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same
> as apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters.

I reordered the dependencies, to be simpler to compare:
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s aptitude | grep Installed
Installed-Size: 8424
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s aptitude | grep Depends
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12), \
  libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12), \
  libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11, libncursesw5 (>= 5.4-5), \
  libsigc++-2.0-0c2a (>= 2.0.2)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s apt | grep Installed
Installed-Size: 4296
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s apt | grep Depends
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12), \
  libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
=

Except from the difference in size between aptitude and apt, we have:

- libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3-11 is provided by apt, so with aptitude we
  *have* apt

- libncursesw5 adds 584K

- libsigc++-2.0-0c2a adds 88K

Even if it's only about 5M more, sometimes matter (not in my specific
case, however).

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Wednesday 04 October 2006 13:08, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as
> apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters.

aptitude neither understand "build-dep" nor "source" as command...


regards,
Holger


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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Jan Kechel
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> aptitude has this
> apt has that
> aptitude can't do that
> apt can't do this
> [...]

.. is this always here like this?
Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course
those that prefer aptitude think that apt-findremovable is obsolete, and
that those that prefer apt not?

I hope i helped the apt-users, at least it won't hurt the aptitude users.

ack?

jan
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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:46:39PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote:
> Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course
> those that prefer aptitude think that apt-findremovable is obsolete, and
> that those that prefer apt not?

Just a bit more nitpicking: apt is different from apt-get. apt-get and
aptitude are different frontends to apt (just as, say, synaptic is). It's
just that apt-get is deprecated for most end-users now that aptitude exists
and is stable.

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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Alexey Feldgendler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
> >> apt-findremovable.
> 
> > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
> > of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
> > automatically installed.
> 
> Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as 
> apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters.

apt-get is faster and uses less resources.

- Rolf


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Bug#391032: ITP: gspca -- source for the gspca v4l kernel module

2006-10-04 Thread Kel Modderman
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian spca5xx Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: gspca
  Version : 01.00.04
  Upstream Author : Michel Xhaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : source for the gspca v4l kernel module

 The gpsca video for linux (v4l) driver, provides support for 
 webcams and digital cameras based on the spca5xx range of chips
 manufactured by SunPlus, Sonix, Z-star, Vimicro, Conexant, Etoms,
 Mars-semi, Pixart and Transvision.
 .
 The gspca driver is a rewrite of the well known spca5xx v4l kernel
 module from the same author, Michel Xhaard.
 .
 This package provides the source code for the gspca kernel modules.
 Kernel source or headers are required to compile these modules. For
 basic install steps see /usr/share/doc/gspca-source/README.Debian.gz
 .
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The config script in Debconf

2006-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Tavares
Hello,

I made a structure debconf package, and build deb.
I'm testing the debconf and yours templates.
Follow the guide's debconf, i just read the script
config is executed before the package has been
installed. When I run this script not happen.
I just configure the debconf use dialog. I think the
window with a question must come in screen. But it's
not happen. Somebody, can to help me ?

Faria


My debian/config and debian/template is :

#!/bin/sh
# Source debconf library.
. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
# Do you like debian?
db_input medium foo/like_debian || true
db_go
# Check their answer.
db_get foo/like_debian
if [ "$RET" = "false" ]; then
# Poor misguided one..
db_input high foo/why_debian_is_great || true
db_go
fi

And template:

Template: foo/like_debian
Type: boolean
Description: Do you like Debian?
 We'd like to know if you like the Debian GNU/Linux
system.

Template: foo/why_debian_is_great
Type: note
Description: Poor misguided one. Why are you
installing this package?
Debian is great. As you continue using Debian, we hope
you willdiscover the error in your ways.

 



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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:50:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
> > >> apt-findremovable.
> > 
> > > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
> > > of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
> > > automatically installed.
> > 
> > Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as
> > apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters.
> 
> Because "aptitude dist-upgrade" didn't work for upgrading my sarge
> desktop to etch... it was unable to compute a solution while apt-get did
> just fine. And this even if I tried to help him by indicating which
> packages to remove and which packages to install.

Interesting... here, it tends to be the contrary. apt-get wants to
install a whole lot of packages on dist-upgrade, while aptitude is able
to pull the minimum required.

Mike


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Re: The config script in Debconf

2006-10-04 Thread Jon Dowland

Rodrigo Tavares wrote:

Hello,

I made a structure debconf package, and build deb.
I'm testing the debconf and yours templates.
Follow the guide's debconf, i just read the script
config is executed before the package has been
installed. When I run this script not happen.
I just configure the debconf use dialog. I think the
window with a question must come in screen. But it's
not happen. Somebody, can to help me ?


You may get a better response from the debian-mentors mailing list as 
this is a beginner type packaging question.


That said:


db_input medium foo/like_debian || true

   ^^

db_input high foo/why_debian_is_great || true

   

These two questions have different priorities. You will see a different 
set of questions depending on what you have set your debconf priority 
to. I think you will always see the second question but the first you 
may not.


Secondly, the question may be cached. Try running dpkg-reconfigure package name>. You can add a -p argument to dpkg-reconfigure to force 
your debconf priority (eg. -p high to see only high questions). Default 
is 'low'.



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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:07:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information
> of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been
> automatically installed.

I often install packages to play with them a little or just to read the
man page. 90% of the time I do _not_ want to keep those packages
regardless that I have installed them manually. And there are cases when
a package is no longer depended on but I still want to keep it.

That's why I like debfoster: it asks the question "do you want to keep
the package or not", which is orthogonal to how and why it was
installed.

Gabor

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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +0700, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
>
>> Seems like debfoster does what you need. However, it's considered obsolete  
>> now that aptitude takes care of unused packages.
>
> debfoster (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
>
>   * New upstream version, new maintainer team.
>   * Revert deprecation.  Closes: #366518.
>
> Long live debfoster :-)
>
> Gabor

Still my favorite too. aptitude always screws up (does not what I
want in comandline mode).

MfG
Goswin


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Bug#391104: RFH: rus-ispell -- Russian dictionary for Aspell/Ispell/MySpell

2006-10-04 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

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I request assistance with maintaining the rus-ispell package.

The package description is:
 This dictionary contains Russian wordlists for the Aspell
 spellchecker currently supported by GNOME applications.
 .
 The dictionary is generated from the Ispell wordlist.

What kind of help I need:

1) People who are familiar with wordlist developments on
Aspell, Ispell, MySpell and with dictionaries-common-dev.

2) Russian speakers capable of cleaning up the upstream
tarball and of improving the source wordlist's content.

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Bug#391105: RFH: ispell-et -- Estonian dictionary for Aspell/Ispell/MySpell

2006-10-04 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

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I request assistance with maintaining the ispell-et package.

The package description is:
 This dictionary provides Estonian wordlists for the Aspell
 spellchecker currently supported by GNOME applications.
 .
 Homepage:  http://www.meso.ee/~jjpp/speller/

What kind of help I need:

1) People who are familiar with wordlists development on
Aspell, Ispell, MySpell and with dictionaries-common-dev.

2) Estonian speakers capable of cleaning up the upstream
tarball and of improving the source wordlist's content.

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Soon-to-be orphaned packages need a caring maintainer

2006-10-04 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Due to severe time constraints and interest shifts I'm putting some
packages up to adoption. I considered taking a complete break from
debian until things get better but I am just not able to do so. I've
been a debian developer for 9 years now, that represents almost 1/3rd of
my life involved with this project on different levels.

That said I plan to reduce my packages to the two or three I use the
most nowadays. The following are the packages I'm orphaning next week if
nobody volunteers to maintain them:

Clara - GPL'd ocr software. I know the upstream developer in person, he
is very easy to deal with, but the package hasn't seen an update for
quite some time, its home page states that it will be updated soon
(http://www.geocities.com/claraocr/) The latest version available is
packaged, but has long standing bugs. It will be orphaned if nobody
steps forward to maintain it.

manpages-pt: manpages in Portuguese (mostly brazilian)

vertex: An OpenGL 3d modeller, it will be orphaned. I've not been
dealing with opengl in ages. And I'd even suggest its removal from the
archives since vertex would be mostly useful with a library to load its
models into a user program (libv3d - which I never packaged and nobody
ever complained about). The last upstream update was almost 2 years ago.

normalize-audio: This one is quite nice and it's used by several other
multimedia related packages. There are some open bugs and a new version
upstream to be packaged, this one is fun to deal with, and it is
probably the one which will find a new maintainer quicker.

mxml: This is a very simple library for dealing with "xml-like" files,
it is much smaller and simpler than libxml since it does not deal with
validation and DTDs and such. I'm just RFA'ing this one since
zynaddsubfx (which I'll keep maintaining) depends on it.

phat: This library is a set of useful gtk widgets designed for
multimedia apps. I'm just RFA'ing it since specimen (which I'll keep)
depends on it.

And I think that's all. I hope all those orphan packages will find a
caring maintainer before I need to assign their maintainership to the
already overloaded qa team and open new wnpp bugs.

Regards,

Eduardo (AKA error)

P.S. I'm not currently subscribed to debian-devel, so please, answer
directly to me.


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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
> "Jan" == Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Jan> I wrote a little perl-script:

How does this compare with deborphan?

Package: deborphan
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 176
Maintainer: Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1.7.15
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), dialog (>= 0.9b-20040316-1), bash (>= 
2.05b-14), gettext-base (>= 0.14.1-6)
Recommends: apt
Filename: pool/main/d/deborphan/deborphan_1.7.15_i386.deb
Size: 55196
MD5sum: f01a990910d3f1d790f2e99cb0289734
SHA1: f08ed25480c30d882af3fd2e39b4705306afeeb9
SHA256: f63ea8e0e75a64e6eea305195225276a649eaf36ceee2e839a3f7c62f461737f
Description: Find orphaned libraries
 deborphan finds "orphaned" packages on your system.
 It determines which packages have no other packages
 depending on their installation, and shows you a list of
 these packages. It is most useful when finding libraries,
 but it can be used on packages in all sections.
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Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
> "Alexey" == Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Alexey> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog
Alexey> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
>>> apt-findremovable.

>> I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the
>> information of which packages have been explicitely installed
>> and which have been automatically installed.

Alexey> Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do
Alexey> everything the same as apt-get and even supports the same
Alexey> command line parameters.

I have found (in the past) that aptitude gets confused if it downloads
a corrupt file (e.g. because the version on the server is corrupt),
and instead of telling the user of the problem, the file is ignored
and deleted, resulting in the user assuming an upgrade went
flawlessly, when in actual fact it didn't. Not sure if this is fixed
yet or not.

When this has happened in the past, I have spent all my available time
working out why aptitude is repeatedly downloading the same file, and
then trying to work out why the file is corrupt, that I run out of
time to file meaningful bug reports.

apt-get on the other hand will tell the user immediately of any
problems.
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xv and xorg

2006-10-04 Thread Jiri Klouda
Hi,
I have etch on my computer and when I tried to upgrade to xorg,
it conflicts with xv. And that is a problem for me, my wife is
using it all the time and I cannot upgrade to xorg and more and
more things depend on this. Anyway...

I just wanted to ask when xv is going to be updated or what is
holding it up or if someone has some suggestion how I could
upgrade and still get it working (some experimental xv package?)
or do I need to compile from sources?

-Jiri

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