Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-12 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 06:12:42PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:

> And what if dpkg knows about it and handle arch-independant packages in
> a different way?

There is nothing dpkg can do. Package-1.0 has a hardcoded reference to
/usr/share/foo/bar (provided by some other package) and expects it to be
version 1. Package-2.0 has a hardcoded reference to /usr/share/foo/bar
and expects it to be version 2 which is not compatible with version 1.
If you install package-1.0 and package-2.0 simultaneously one of them
_will_ break.

Gabor

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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Miles Bader [Fri, May 12 2006, 03:08:47PM]:
> Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just because something is also political statement doesn't make it
> > evil or wrong.
> 
> Yup.
> 
> I think it's rather rude to respond to an ITP by publicly questioning
> the choice of license (as long as it's a valid license for Debian).

IMO there was no subtle offense, and no rejection because of license.
But the wording could have been better:

"Please consider asking the upstream to change a license to a more
friendly one. GPL in a support (library) package has too much impact,
especially on packages with other free but slightly GPL-incompatible
licenses".

Eduard.


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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.12.0758 +0200]:
> This means that you need to either license your work under the
> GPL, or a license which is compatible with the GPL. [It also means
> that you'll need to provide your source code, but one would hope
> you were going to do that anyway.]

Which means that I, if I wanted to use cxxtools from my code, would
need to relicence all of my code (Artistic Licence) to a new licence
(Clarified Artistic Licence), which is not even available on
fsf.org, gnu.org, or opensource.org, only on some independent server
in Italy.

Anyway, it's best if I stop this now.

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Re: exp. lightspeed disappeared

2006-05-12 Thread A Mennucc
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> Perhaps it fixed itself? :-)

yes it did.

The reason I posted is that, when I posted, the page
http://packages.debian.org/lightspeed
was showing the kfreebsd binary but not the i386 binary
that I had uploaded...I was very puzzled!

thanks for checking

a.

ps: it seems anyway that there are some weird issue with
 archives: see
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/100417



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Re: Bug#366900: ITP: asterisk-prompt-es-co -- Colombian Spanish voice prompts for the Asterisk PBX

2006-05-12 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le jeudi 11 mai 2006 à 18:33 -0500, Santiago Ruano Rincón a écrit :
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: "Santiago Ruano Rincón" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> * Package name: asterisk-prompt-es-co
>   Version : 0.0.20060503
>   Upstream Author : Avatar Ltda. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.avatar.com.co/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : Colombian Spanish voice prompts for the Asterisk PBX
> 
>  These are Colombian Spanish voice prompts for the Asterisk PBX, courtesy
>  of Avatar Ltda., Colombia.
>  .
>  You need this package if you intend to run Asterisk and wish to support
>  Spanish-speaking callers.

You should probably join the pkg-voip-maintainers team instead of
packaging it on your own. I put their mailing-list in copy of this mail.

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Re: Intent to hijack Bacula (Heads up, Get The Facts!) (long)

2006-05-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 12 mai 2006 à 03:13 +0200, José Luis Tallón a écrit :
> Please tell me how in hell can you justify accusing me of not testing my
> packages, when you have obviously not done so.
> You seem to have some fixation with uploading, don't you?? Six versions
> in 24h ?
> Instead of uploading many half-baked packages, you could try getting one
> right before uploading.
> It is hardly justifiable to build and upload that many packages if you
> already foresee many more fixes needing to go in.

I don't want to comment on the rest, as you are turning ridiculous, but
let me just give you this advice: release early, release often.
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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 05:35:35PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seconds, since when do we consider the GPL to be viral?
> 
> Don't know about you, but the FSF does - it has created the LGPL because
> of this.

Actually, they don't. They consider the GPL a perfectly valid license
for a library; however, they also consider that in some cases, it *may*
be better to use the LGPL instead. Just not all of them.

Why do you think they
* Never released libreadline under anything else than the GPL,
* Renamed the LGPL from the "Library GPL" to the "Lesser GPL"?

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Mime Support

2006-05-12 Thread Indraveni
  Hi, we are working for  a distro. For that we are  using a debian installer for installing the deb packages with a double click on a deb package and also incorporated into our distro. But the problem is:At the first time when we try to install we need to check the open with the deb_installer option in properties. Once it is checked we are able to install all
 other deb pacakge through the installer without any problem. But how can we do this for the first time itself.  that is what ever deb package we are downloading it shd by default open with the installer.  For invoking this option which pacakge we need to alter.I heard something about mime-support package. Is there anything to be done in this package or anything else.Help PleaseRegards  Indraveni
	

	
		 
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Re: Intent to hijack Bacula (END)

2006-05-12 Thread José Luis Tallón
John Goerzen wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:13:31AM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote:
>
> Jose,
>
> Before I comment on a few things, I want to make something clear to you.
>
> You have repeatedly accused me of having something personal against you,
> both in public and in private.
>   
It definitively has looked like that over time.
NMUs are not personal attacks. I know that and appreciate them.

The attitude and comments which went along with them were offensive to
me however.
> I cannot recall ever having even *heard* of your existance prior to
> looking at Bacula, and didn't know a thing about you until later yet.
>   
Don't worry, you have won.
Congratulations, mister "Official Maintainer of Bacula in Debian".

Time to step out for a while.
> [snip]
>
> What's more, I WOULD HOPE PEOPLE WOULD DO IT FOR ME.  I have maintained
> my fair share of packages over the years, and I have also orphaned or
> given up packages for adoption over the years.  I've been NMU'd, even
> recently.
>
> I am not mad at that.  In fact, I am glad that these things have
> happened.  (I wish it hadn't been necessary, but I'm glad that people
> have stepped up to do it when it was.)
>   
I did thank you for your NMU, and hurried to request your patches.
That's a fact.
> A key difference is that I recognized when someone else would be better
> able to take care of a package, and amicably arranged with them to do
> so.
>   
Well... I said "no"(for the time being) and you didn't respect that.
Instead, you simply proceeded with the hijack.
> [snip]
>
> I don't say this to try to prove that I'm some mighty Debian developer.
> I'm not, and I know it.  I say this because I want you to understand
> something that you may not have had a chance to experience yet -- that
> is, that there is more to getting satisfaction from a project than doing
> everything yourself.
>   
I do know that. It's the manners that I don't like.
> I think the best compliment for a Debian developer is for a *user* of
> Debian to say, "Wow, *Debian* is a solid OS that Just Works."
>
> NMUs make Debian better.
They definitively do.
> Hijacking of packages, as in this case, can make Debian better too.
Only when done in a proper way (my own POV, anyway)
> Remember, from the Social Contract, that Debian's priorities are its users 
> and Free Software.
>   
Indeed. Those have been mine, even though you and some others differ.
I cared about my users when I packaged Bacula for the first time almost
three years ago.
> Attitudes like this will ensure that there is always half a year left
> until Etch is released.
>   
I beg to differ, but I can understand your point.
>> Still much more than two months left for the base freeze. A transition
>> takes 10 days at most.
>> 
>
> If you get the package right to start with, and uploaded on time.  Which
> history indicates is not likely.
>   
Well... different conditions lead to different results.
I have had a Bacula-1.38.9-1 of my own ready for a couple days already,
but it hasn't been uploaded.
Before you say anything: the one who was going to make the upload seems
to prefer waiting until this thread ended instead of uploading the
fixes. And not, it wasn't because of technical concerns, and it wasn't
rover. Now it's too late. Thanks for nothing.

>>>  * The last upload for Bacula was almost a year ago.
>>>   
>>>   
>> There were no upstream releases for over six months, either.
>> 
>
> But there were RC bugs against it in Debian for over a year.  You needed
> to make a new upload.
>   
As has been recently recognized publicly, it wasn't over a year old; And
it had only been promoted to RC recently.
> Then your testing standards are insufficient for an upload to sid.  You
> have uploaded packages that would not even *install from scratch* on
> most machines.
>   
Well... I fixed the bugs I found before every upload. Definitively the
subset of machines you and I are talking about are different.
There's nothing wrong with that, but then...
>>>  [snip]
>> The fact that you uploaded six versions of Bacula to NEW within one day
>> gives an idea of the level of testing you give them.
>> 
>
> That is not correct.  Here are the dates of the "NEW" acknowledgments
> from the ftp-master scripts for my uploads.
>
> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 14:02:23 -0700
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 14:02:15 -0700
> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 07:17:11 -0700
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:17:05 -0700
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 20:47:09 -0700
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:17:12 -0700
>
> BTW, you *KNEW* that your "six versions of bacula within one day" was
> inaccurate because the Debian Installer scripts CC'd you on every one of
> those messages whose dates I have just listed.
>   
I failed to check the dates for those. Sorry.
Anyway, my point referred to the latest ones anyway.
> It only takes a few minutes to do a full build, and far less to do
> a partial build after making minor tweaks, and my machines aren't as
> powerful as that.  But I did test my pac

Re: Intent to hijack Bacula (Heads up, Get The Facts!) (long)

2006-05-12 Thread José Luis Tallón
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 12 mai 2006 à 03:13 +0200, José Luis Tallón a écrit :
>   
>> Please tell me how in hell can you justify accusing me of not testing my
>> packages, when you have obviously not done so.
>> You seem to have some fixation with uploading, don't you?? Six versions
>> in 24h ?
>> Instead of uploading many half-baked packages, you could try getting one
>> right before uploading.
>> It is hardly justifiable to build and upload that many packages if you
>> already foresee many more fixes needing to go in.
>> 
>
> I don't want to comment on the rest, as you are turning ridiculous, but
> let me just give you this advice: release early, release often.
>   
If that was easy for me, I would (I mean in Debian)
It should have been as easy as for John and yourself since late 2004.
But it still isn't.


Nothing more to say on this.

J.L.


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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060512 09:50]:
> also sprach Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.12.0758 +0200]:
> > This means that you need to either license your work under the
> > GPL, or a license which is compatible with the GPL. [It also means
> > that you'll need to provide your source code, but one would hope
> > you were going to do that anyway.]
> 
> Which means that I, if I wanted to use cxxtools from my code, would
> need to relicence all of my code (Artistic Licence) to a new licence
> (Clarified Artistic Licence), which is not even available on
> fsf.org, gnu.org, or opensource.org, only on some independent server
> in Italy.

So cxxtools authors should allow you to use their code in your
application even if they are not allowed to use your code in theirs?
This is of course no unreasonable petition, but I suggest noone to
fullfil it without additional reasons. 

Hochachtungsvoll,
  Bernhard R. Link


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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.12.1254 +0200]:
> So cxxtools authors should allow you to use their code in your
> application even if they are not allowed to use your code in theirs?
> This is of course no unreasonable petition, but I suggest noone to
> fullfil it without additional reasons. 

"No reason to fight fire with fire"

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Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-12 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:31:58PM +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote:
>Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:20:19PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>>> (In fact, IMHO nothing should depends from perl-modules at all).
>>
>> Correct.  I'd prefer that nothing did. 
>
>Is this documented anywhere? If is really is the case that nothing
>should depend on perl-modules (but rather on perl itself), the Perl
>Policy should mention it in the dependencies section.

Perl Policy is intentionally vague about the way that the package is
split up (into perl, perl-modules or whatever).

The intent was to allow the maintainer to choose the most appropriate
split (if any) and to mandate only the existence of `perl-base', and
ensure that installing the package `perl' would provide a working Perl
interpreter.

Section 5.2 describes program dependencies, and refers only to `perl' or
`perl-base'.  The first paragraph could perhaps be re-worded as:

   Programs which require  Perl modules must specify a
   dependency on the `perl' package.

Note that it doesn't say that you shouldn't depend on perl-modules,
merely that you must depend on perl.

>> Selecting a random entry from that list with a versioned dependency,
>> 'munin':
>>
>>   Depends: perl (>= 5.6.0-16), perl-modules (>= 5.8.0) | 
>> libparse-recdescent-perl, [...]
>
>Speaking as co-maintainer of munin, should we just change that to "perl
>(>= 5.8.0) | libparse-recdescent-perl" instead? Won't lintian complain
>about a duplicate relation on perl in that case, or has that been fixed?
>
>(We want the packages to be installabe on woody with the minimum amount
>of fuss, so we don't want to just depend on perl (>= 5.8.0)).

That dependency is fine.  I chose it as an example of where not having
the reverse dependency could cause problems.

This is the sort of thing which I'd prefer not to see:

  Package: vrms
  Depends: perl-modules

perl would be correct.

  Package: libdbi-perl
  Depends: perl (>= 5.8.4-5) | perl-modules, perlapi-5.8.4, libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), 
libplrpc-perl

A specific version of perl or *any* version of perl-modules?

  Package: babygimp
  Depends: perl, perl-modules, perl-tk

Redundant.

  Package: pdbv
  Depends: perl-base (>= 5.6.0), perl-modules, liblocale-gettext-perl, 
libtie-ixhash-perl, coreutils (>= 4.5.0) | fileutils (>= 4.1), debconf (>= 
1.0.32)

The first two should be replaced by "perl (>= 5.6.0)".

etc.

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Re: Intent to hijack Bacula

2006-05-12 Thread Stephen Frost
* Riku Voipio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 03:05:17PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:09:11PM +0200, Roberto Lumbreras wrote:
> > > The package has bugs, lots of them, and for that reason has been removed
> > > from testing, well done, unstable it is here for that.
> > 
> > Uh no. I find it scary that you share this same idea as the original
> > bacula maintainer. Unstable is NOT a graveyard for packages with RC 
> > bugs years old!
> 
> Uh, I owe Jose a apology. The oldest RC bug was not RC for over a year,
> it was promoted to RC just recently.  

It's not like the bug changed...  It was RC before just initially
mis-filed...

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Re: Intent to hijack Bacula (Heads up, Get The Facts!) (long)

2006-05-12 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would do this regardless of who the maintainer was.  I seem to recall
> possibly doing it for some Perl HTML package that was in a similar
> situation to Bacula in the late 90s, but I can't really remember.  I'm
> sure you could dig up links.

It was the URI package, and you were totally justified.  As, from what
I see, you are in this case---not that my opinion should carry much
weight other than in the "takes a (former) derelict maintainer to know
one". :)

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Bug#366978: ITP: bonfire -- CD/DVD burning application for GNOME

2006-05-12 Thread Ondřej SurÜ
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Ondrej Sury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: bonfire
  Version : 0.3.0
  Upstream Author : Philippe Rouquier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bonfire/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : CD/DVD burning application for GNOME

 Easy to use CD/DVD burning application where you can:
  * Burn, Copy and Erase CD/DVD
  * On-the-fly burning of CD/DVD
  * Append data to multisession CD/DVD
  * Burn Audio CD
  * CD-Text writing for Audio CD

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Re: Possible transition to GCC 4.1 for etch: coordinated NMUs

2006-05-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-12 18:07]:
>  - Mon, May 29 - Mon, May 12: 2 weeks of coordinated NMUs.  Please
>email me privately if you're interested in helping out.
>  - Mon, May 12 - Thu, May 15: recompilation of the whole archive with
>GCC 4.1 on several architecture to identify unresolved issues.
>  - Thu, May 15: send a report to the release team

Obviously this should be June 12 and June 15.  Thanks to Clint for
pointing this out.
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Re: gcc 4.1 or not

2006-05-12 Thread Jurij Smakov

On Thu, 11 May 2006, Martin Michlmayr wrote:


I didn't hit this problem myself yet, but it has been mentioned on
sparclinux list that 4.1 currently miscompiles the sparc kernel.


Do you know if this still happens, and if so, whether someone has
tracked it down?


I only became aware of it a couple of days ago, and will try to reproduce 
the problem during the weekend.


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[VAC] Broke my wrist, afk 3-6 weeks

2006-05-12 Thread Shaun Jackman

I can type -- slowly -- but I won't be doing any package maintenance
for three to six weeks.

Cheers,
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Bug#366984: ITP: klone -- web application development framework

2006-05-12 Thread Kari Pahula
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: klone
  Version : 1.1.0
  Upstream Author : KoanLogic Srl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.koanlogic.com/kl/cont/gb/html/klone.html
* License : GPLv2 or later
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : web application development framework

 KLone is a fully-featured, multiplatform, web application development
 framework, targeted especially for embedded systems and appliances.
 .
 It is a self-contained solution which includes a web server and an SDK
 for creating WWW sites with both static and dynamic content. When
 using KLone, there's absolutely no need for any additional component:
 neither the HTTP/S server (e.g. Apache, Netscape, Roxen), nor the
 typical active pages engine (PHP, Perl, ASP, Python).
 .
 KLone does everything, and does it fast and small.
 .
 KLone blends the HTTP/S server application together with its content
 and configuration into a single executable file. The site developer
 writes his/her dynamic pages in C/C++ (in usual scripting style: <% /*
 code */ %>) and uses KLone to transform them into embeddable,
 compressed native code with the native C/C++ compiler. The result is
 then linked to the HTTP/S server skeleton to obtain one single,
 ROM-able, binary file. This means that he/she can get:
  - easy, complete and unfiltered interaction with the host operating
  system
  - dynamic pages in native compiled code, which in turn implies
  - fast execution and
  - small overall application footprint
  - all of this without giving up the common functionality of web
  application frameworks such as sessions, parsing of form
  variables, cookies, etc

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Re: Bug#366900: ITP: asterisk-prompt-es-co -- Colombian Spanish voice prompts for the Asterisk PBX

2006-05-12 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Jerome,

Am Freitag, den 12.05.2006, 11:11 +0200 schrieb Jerome Warnier:
> Le jeudi 11 mai 2006 à 18:33 -0500, Santiago Ruano Rincón a écrit :
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: "Santiago Ruano Rincón" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * Package name: asterisk-prompt-es-co

> You should probably join the pkg-voip-maintainers team instead of
> packaging it on your own. I put their mailing-list in copy of this mail.


Well, just for the record, Santiago is already a member of pkg-voip.
I've just updated Santiago's account in alioth. He was already joined as
santiago-guest. Now that he's officially become DD, all that needed
adjustment was the reference to his new account name. Thus, I'm pretty
sure that he'll maintain this new pack in pkg-voip. Thanks for your help
nevertheless. ;)

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Bug#367007: ITP: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl -- Perl extension implementing the ZOOM API for Information Retrieval via Z39.50

2006-05-12 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
  Version : 1.08
  Upstream Author : Mike Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Net-Z3950-ZOOM/lib/Net/Z3950/ZOOM.pm
* License : Same as Perl, i.e. GPL or Artistic Licence
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl extension implementing the ZOOM API for Information 
Retrieval via Z39.50

 This module provides a nice, Perlish implementation of the ZOOM
 Abstract API described and documented at http://zoom.z3950.org/api/
 .
 The ZOOM module is implemented as a set of thin classes on top of the
 non-OO functions provided by this distribution's Net::Z3950::ZOOM module,
 which in turn is a thin layer on top of the ZOOM-C code supplied as part of
 Index Data's YAZ Toolkit.  Because ZOOM-C is also the underlying code that
 implements ZOOM bindings in C++, Visual Basic, Scheme, Ruby, .NET
 (including C#) and other languages, this Perl module works compatibly with
 those other implementations.  (Of course, the point of a public API such as
 ZOOM is that all implementations should be compatible anyway; but knowing
 that the same code is running is reassuring.)
 .
  Homepage: http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Net-Z3950-ZOOM/lib/Net/Z3950/ZOOM.pm

Additional comments:
* libnet-z3950-zoom-perl is the "successor" of libnet-z3950-perl.
* libnet-z3950-zoom-perl currently FTBFS on Debian because it depends
  on (lib)yaz(-dev) >= 2.1.11, and unfortunately only 2.1.8 is in
  Debian; the current upstream version is 2.1.18; cf. #359265


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Re: Possible transition to GCC 4.1 for etch: coordinated NMUs

2006-05-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-12 18:07]:
> I have filed the following meta bug to keep track of GCC 4.1 build
> failures in packages: #366820

As it turns out, bug blockers currently don't display information
about the package those bugs are in and what their status is (e.g. if
there's a patch already).

Brian M. Carlson has kindly created a user tag (ftbfs-4.1. user
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) which we can use:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=ftbfs-4.1;[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Possible transition to GCC 4.1 for etch: coordinated NMUs

2006-05-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As it turns out, bug blockers currently don't display information
> about the package those bugs are in and what their status is (e.g. if
> there's a patch already).

But this could be added.  It would be a nice feature to request.
(Hint hint)


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Re: Possible transition to GCC 4.1 for etch: coordinated NMUs

2006-05-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-12 15:01]:
> > As it turns out, bug blockers currently don't display information
> > about the package those bugs are in and what their status is (e.g. if
> > there's a patch already).
> 
> But this could be added.  It would be a nice feature to request.
> (Hint hint)

I didn't mention that I've already filed a wishlist bug. ;-) #367021

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Bug#367028: ITP: cpulimit -- limits the cpu usage of a process

2006-05-12 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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* URL : http://marlon80.interfree.it/cpulimit/
* License : LGPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : limits the cpu usage of a process

 cpulimit is a simple program that attempts to limit the cpu usage of a
 process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). This is useful to
 control batch jobs, when you don't want then to eat too much cpu. It does not
 act on the nice value or other priority stuff, but on the real cpu usage.
 Besides it is able to adapt itself to the overall system load, dynamically
 and quickly.
 .
  Homepage: http://marlon80.interfree.it/cpulimit/


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Re: Bug#367028: ITP: cpulimit -- limits the cpu usage of a process

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 23:59 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
[snip]
>   Description : limits the cpu usage of a process
> 
>  cpulimit is a simple program that attempts to limit the cpu usage of a
>  process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). This is useful to
>  control batch jobs, when you don't want then to eat too much cpu. It does not
>  act on the nice value or other priority stuff, but on the real cpu usage.
>  Besides it is able to adapt itself to the overall system load, dynamically
>  and quickly.
>  .
>   Homepage: http://marlon80.interfree.it/cpulimit/

I thought nice was supposed to handle these kinds of things, and
that a busy CPU is a *good* thing.

What Linux needs are batch queues.  (Anyone who has used OpenVMS
or MVS-z/OS knows what I'm talking about.)

Obviously, though, that's a way OT discussion.

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Re: Bug#367028: ITP: cpulimit -- limits the cpu usage of a process

2006-05-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 05:34:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> >   Description : limits the cpu usage of a process
> >  cpulimit is a simple program that attempts to limit the cpu usage of a
> >  process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). This is useful to
> >  control batch jobs, when you don't want then to eat too much cpu. It does 
> > not
> >  act on the nice value or other priority stuff, but on the real cpu usage.
> I thought nice was supposed to handle these kinds of things, and
> that a busy CPU is a *good* thing.

On an otherwise idle box even a process (re-)niced to 19 uses all the
CPU. That might be desirable often but in other cases (e.g. when
CPU temperature is an issue) you might still want to say "assign this
process only xy% of CPU resources".
 
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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-12 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:35:50PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 05:35:35PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Seconds, since when do we consider the GPL to be viral?
> > 
> > Don't know about you, but the FSF does - it has created the LGPL because
> > of this.
> 
> Actually, they don't. They consider the GPL a perfectly valid license
> for a library;

That doesn't refute the statement that FSF considers the GPL viral.


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Re: Bug#367028: ITP: cpulimit -- limits the cpu usage of a process

2006-05-12 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 12:47:31AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On an otherwise idle box even a process (re-)niced to 19 uses all the
> CPU. That might be desirable often but in other cases (e.g. when
> CPU temperature is an issue) you might still want to say "assign this
> process only xy% of CPU resources".

Linux's ``conservative'' scaling governor ignores nice'd processes for 
calculating the desired CPU speed.  Do you have a case in mind where CPU 
scaling is insufficient?


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Re: Bug#367028: ITP: cpulimit -- limits the cpu usage of a process

2006-05-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0500, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:

> > On an otherwise idle box even a process (re-)niced to 19 uses all the
> > CPU. That might be desirable often but in other cases (e.g. when
> > CPU temperature is an issue) you might still want to say "assign this
> > process only xy% of CPU resources".
> Linux's ``conservative'' scaling governor ignores nice'd processes for 
> calculating the desired CPU speed.  Do you have a case in mind where CPU 
> scaling is insufficient?

CPU scaling TTBOMK
* doesn't work for all CPUs;
* is more complex than a single binary;
* works on the CPU as a whole and not on single processes.

IMO tuning the frequency of the CPU is something different than
adjusting the CPU usage of a process.


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Re: Testing security archive move

2006-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 13 May 2006 04:49, Neil McGovern wrote:
> The Debian testing security team is pleased to announce the integration
> of the secure testing archive to http://security.debian.org

Many congratulations to all involved. This is a great step forward.


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Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 16:21, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Le Mardi 09 Mai 2006 22:49, Bill Allombert a écrit :
> > Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers 
>
> ...
>
> > libkcal2b
> > libkdepim1a
>
> It looks like these two have circular dependencies because libkdepim
> depends on libkcal, while a couple of the standard libkcal plugins
> (namely kcal_kabc.so and kcal_remote.so) depend on libkdepim.  I don't
> see any easy way to disentangle these.

At least three possibilities:

(*) most systems probably have both installed anyway, so why not merge the 
packages? (Back to kdepim-libs...)

(*) have libkcal2b only recommend libkdepim1a

(*) split libkcal2b into the lib and a separate libkcal-plugins package.

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