Bug#330896: progress?

[Dafydd Harries]

Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #330896
Owner: Dafydd Harries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Andrew,

Is there any progress on this ITP? I have a pyflakes package, but I'd like to
see it in Debian.


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Re: new su behaviour & exit status

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting Nico Golde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi,
> because of the new su behaviour its no longer possible to 
> get any exit status from a command executed with su -c.
> If you use init scripts which need to invoke su and you dont 
> want to depend on sudo the init script will no longer 
> recognize segfaults or other failures in execution and will 
> always return 0 for $?.
> Thats the reason for #349580.
> 
> Does anyone knows a fix for this or have any useful links on 
> how to "workaround" this behaviour?


This has been reported in #360276 with a patch. We (shadow
maintainers) will review the patch, discuss it with upstream, and
hopefully upload shadow 4.0.15-2 this week-end. We have another issue
we want to see fixed anyway (#360179) and will also include the
long-awaited fix for #276419 (which has been announced in
-devel-announce).




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Re: Bug#360285: ITP: libjoey -- forks itself and does several things at the same time

[Riku Voipio]

On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 02:07:24AM +0200, Amaya wrote:
> Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> > I'd like the source for Joey, please. :-)
 
> Formorer, please clarify with upstream, I have heard (today) that
> libjoey is not 100% free, as in DFSG-free. 

In most legislations there are severe limits what you are 
allowed to do with libjoey and it's derived works. For example,
various anti-slavery laws contradict directly with DFSG #1.


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Re: Bug#360285: ITP: libjoey -- forks itself and does several things at the same time

[Riku Voipio]

On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 02:35:24PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
-snip-

On a second thought, that was a bit too tasteless.


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Re: new su behaviour & exit status

[Andreas Metzler]

Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> because of the new su behaviour its no longer possible to 
> get any exit status from a command executed with su -c.
[...]
> Does anyone knows a fix for this or have any useful links on 
> how to "workaround" this behaviour?

You could simply use start-stop-daemon instead of su.
   cu andreas
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Bug#360340: ITP: libpcl1 -- the Portable Coroutine Library (PCL) implements the low level functionality for coroutines

[Damián Viano]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Damián Viano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libpcl1
  Version : 1.6
  Upstream Author : Davide Libenzi 
* URL : http://www.xmailserver.org/libpcl.html
* License : GPL
  Description : the Portable Coroutine Library (PCL) implements the low 
level functionality for coroutines

Coroutines are a very simple cooperative multitasking environment where
the switch from one task to another is done explicitly by a function
call. Coroutines are a lot faster than processes or threads switch,
since there is no OS kernel involvement for the operation. Also
coroutines require much less OS resources than processes of threads.

For a more complete definition of the term coroutine see The Art of
Computer Programming by Donald E. Knuth.

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Re: new su behaviour & exit status

[Nico Golde]

Hi,
* Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-02 19:10]:
> Quoting Nico Golde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Hi,
> > because of the new su behaviour its no longer possible to 
> > get any exit status from a command executed with su -c.
> > If you use init scripts which need to invoke su and you dont 
> > want to depend on sudo the init script will no longer 
> > recognize segfaults or other failures in execution and will 
> > always return 0 for $?.
> > Thats the reason for #349580.
> > 
> > Does anyone knows a fix for this or have any useful links on 
> > how to "workaround" this behaviour?
> 
> This has been reported in #360276 with a patch. We (shadow
> maintainers) will review the patch, discuss it with upstream, and
> hopefully upload shadow 4.0.15-2 this week-end. We have another issue
> we want to see fixed anyway (#360179) and will also include the
> long-awaited fix for #276419 (which has been announced in
> -devel-announce).

Oh fine, then I will not reassign it to shadow and just wait 
till the new package and close the bug.Thanks!
Regards Nico

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Bug#360342: ITP: enemylines3 -- semi-abstract first person 3d-shooter game

[Gonéri Le Bouder]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Gonéri Le Bouder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: enemylines3
  Version : 1.2
  Upstream Author : Raphael Pikrin  
* URL : http://raum1.memebot.com/enemylines/ 
* License : GPL 
  Description : semi-abstract first person 3d-shooter game

single-player game. You have to shoot evil robots before they get too close, 
you can use your jetpack to
escape.
The robos can't jump but they tear down walls.

Greatest score are recorded on a hiscore server: http://score.phk.at/

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Re: Bug#360285: ITP: libjoey -- forks itself and does several things at the same time

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting Alexander Wirt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Alexander Wirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: libjoey
>   Version : 0.1.4
>   Upstream Author : Martin 'Joey' Schulze
> * URL : http://www.infodrom.org/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : forks itself and does several things at the same time
> 
> libjoey is a opensource fork of the famous Martin 'Joey' Schulze, this


Please note that a libjoeyh already exists which forks several
instances of Joey Hess with interesting results in development
activities.

I propose that both authors work together and merge the code, which
should give even mor eefficiency to the libraries.



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Bug#360357: ITP: diff1 -- compares file's actual state with file's desired state

[Jay Berkenbilt]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jay Berkenbilt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: diff1
  Version : 0.4.1
  Upstream Author : April Furst
* URL : http://www.diff1.net/
* License : GPL, `diff1 -u GFDL | patch`
  Description : compares file's actual state with file's desired state

diff1 is a special version of diff that takes only one file as an
argument.  diff1 then compares the file's present state with the
file's desired state and reports any differences in the same format as
the regular diff command, suitable for input to the patch program.

diff1 is very useful for correcting writing and, when used with source
code, can be extremely useful for correcting bugs.  diff1 works best
when its input is close to correct, but in a pinch, diff1 can be used
to create complete original works if given an empty file as an
argument.

At this point, diff1 is still under development and depends upon the
utm (Universal Truth Machine) and dwim (Do What I Mean) libraries.
The eventual goal is that diff1 should be "self-hosting" -- the final,
bug-free version of diff1 will be generated by running diff1 on its
own sources, at which point it will be finished and will be able to
determine the correct answers to all questions that can be expressed
using written language.

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[MEETINGS] Next D-I team meeting on Wednesday April 5th 21:00 UTC - Work in progress, towards beta3

[Christian Perrier]

The next Debian Installer team opened meeting is scheduled for
Wednesday April 5th 21:00 UTC.

We are currently between two releases. A beta3 release is planned
"soon" for offering a better support for the recent mirror split. We
also plan to integrate the graphical installer in that release.

This meeting will help talking about work in progress and planned work
for the immediate future.

The Wiki page is opened for the meeting agenda. I already filled some
topics with the work in progress which I'm aware of (thanks to Frans
for the help, of course).

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings

I will add timings to the agenda at the last minute, as usual, so
probably on Wednesday afternoon. Expect a meeting duration of about
1h.





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Old packages: when removed, what happens to them, where are they?

[Jari Aalto]

I've recently have an interest in using older Debian packages that
were once included in the distribution but then removed. The Debian
FAQ did not talk about this issue and tha packages.debian.org search
page did not offer option to look for old and removed packages.

What happens to them? Where can I browse and download the dusted
packages that were put away? [1]

Jari

[1] 

I'd need the xaw95 package, once uploaded to Debian xaw95
1.1-4.6potato1 (or newer) to build the small xrun program for use with
small window managers.



Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 xaw95g - Windows 95-like look for X apps using the Athena widgets
Changes: 
 xaw95 (1.1-4.6potato1) stable; urgency=HIGH
 .
   * NMU. Fixed temp file security holes in AsciiSrc and MultiSrc
 widgets. Fix taken from X, which had the same problem.
   * Removed the libc5 stuff from the package, since it is no longer
 possible to build it on unstable, which lacks a libc5 xpm library.
   * Conflicts with old insecure libc5 package to ensure no users are
 left with it installed.
Files: 
 e1e851e56e8bd55e7aa7ad75d53e1795 579 x11 extra xaw95_1.1-4.6potato1.dsc
 8e2814e26829f8618407bddc2a8139a0 97389 x11 extra xaw95_1.1-4.6potato1.diff.gz
 ad465ec7dd6b7cdf155da49ed40fd0f1 1154248 x11 extra 
xaw95g_1.1-4.6potato1_i386.deb



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Re: Old packages: when removed, what happens to them, where are they?

[Jonas Meurer]

On 01/04/2006 Jari Aalto wrote:
> I've recently have an interest in using older Debian packages that
> were once included in the distribution but then removed. The Debian
> FAQ did not talk about this issue and tha packages.debian.org search
> page did not offer option to look for old and removed packages.
> 
> What happens to them? Where can I browse and download the dusted
> packages that were put away? [1]

take a look at snapshot.debian.net.
but i'm not sure how packages are treated that were removed from debian
due to license issues. i guess that they are purged from
snapshot.debian.net as well.

apart from that, this question belongs more to debian-user. this is a
development list. please see lists.debian.org for more information.

...
 jonas


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Re: Bug#360340: ITP: libpcl1 -- the Portable Coroutine Library (PCL) implements the low level functionality for coroutines

[Henning Makholm]

Scripsit Damián Viano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> For a more complete definition of the term coroutine see The Art of
> Computer Programming by Donald E. Knuth.

I nominate this for the 2006 Most Precise Literature Reference in a
Package Description award.

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Re: Bug#360340: ITP: libpcl1 -- the Portable Coroutine Library (PCL) implements the low level functionality for coroutines

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 21:18 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Damián Viano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > For a more complete definition of the term coroutine see The Art of
> > Computer Programming by Donald E. Knuth.
> 
> I nominate this for the 2006 Most Precise Literature Reference in a
> Package Description award.

Vote: nay.  OP forgot to mention which volume of tAoCP.

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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 06:28:14AM -0500, sean finney wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > What I'm suggesting is, actually, the reverse of a pidfile, in some way.
> > You'd still have your /var/run/syslogd.pid; but, assuming that file
> > contained the PID "2722" (as it currently does on my system), you'd also
> > have a file called "2722" somewhere (say, under "/var/run/pidlookups")
> > which would contain "/etc/init.d/sysklogd".
> > 
> > With such a system, you'd be able to say "restart whatever PID 2722 is".
> > Or even to force-reload it, if that'd be enough.
> 
> no offense, but this sounds more like a solution looking for a problem
> than the other way around.
> 
> i also don't see how it is aesthetically better or cleaner than
> the following 4 lines of shell code:
> 
> sysloginits="inetutils-syslogd metalog socklog-run sysklogd syslog-ng"
> for s in $sysloginits; do
>   test -x /etc/init.d/$s && invoke-rc.d $s restart || true
> done

* This doesn't scale as well. Maybe not so important if all you ever
  care about is syslog and udev, but there might be more cases where
  such a thing could be interesting and/or important.
* It requires a manual update of the package every time someone adds a
  new syslogd to the archive. Mine does not.
* It would also catch daemons that have /dev/log open, while "just"
  restarting syslogd won't cut that.

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Re: Maintainers Guide

[Tollef Fog Heen]

* Anthony DeRobertis 

| Well, isn't prohibiting the "I didn't know it is copyrighted" defence
| the only legal effect of having the notice nowadays, anyway?

Are you able to claim that source code written is not under copyright
in any way?  It's less than 70 years after the author's death (even
for really old code from, say, 1950) and if it clearly is
copyrightable, it will be under copyright.

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Re: Bug#359955: ITP: gaim-libnotify -- display notification bubbles in gaim

[Tollef Fog Heen]

* Marco Cabizza 

| gaim-libnotify is a gaim plugin which displays notification bubbles
| in Gaim using libnotify and notification-daemon.

I presume you're already aware of gaim-guifications which does the
same thing, though without libnotify and n-d?

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Re: Old packages: when removed, what happens to them, where are they?

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 10611 March 1977, Jari Aalto wrote:

> What happens to them? Where can I browse and download the dusted
> packages that were put away? [1]

Depends on how old the package is. There is snapshot.debian.net and
archive.debian.org where the last only contains old releases.

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Re: Maintainers Guide

[John Hasler]

Tollef Fog Heen writes:
> Are you able to claim that source code written is not under copyright in
> any way?  It's less than 70 years after the author's death (even for
> really old code from, say, 1950) and if it clearly is copyrightable, it
> will be under copyright.

If it was written by a US government employee on government time it is not
protected by US copyright.  If it was published in the US before 1989
without a copyright notice it is in the public domain.
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kdemultimedia and libtunepimp

[Andrew Donnellan]

I don't know if this has already been discussed, but anyway...

ATM kdemultimedia (and therefore kde) is uninstallable on any arch
except amd64 because libtunepimp2c2a has not been built. I see from
the changelog of libtunepimp3 that it was renamed, so shouldn't
libtunepimp3 provide and replace libtunepimp2c2a or the dependencies
of noatun, juk. amarok, etc. be changed?

andrew

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Bug#360414: ITP: cube -- 3D game engine and multiplayer/singleplayer FPS game

[Gonéri Le Bouder]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Gonéri Le Bouder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: cube
  Version : 2005.08.29
  Upstream Author : Wouter van Oortmerssen
* URL : http://www.cubeengine.com/ 
* License : zlib license 
  Description : 3D game engine and multiplayer/singleplayer FPS game

Cube is an open source multiplayer and singleplayer first person shooter
game built on an entirely new and very unconventional engine. Cube is a
landscape-style engine that pretends to be an indoor FPS engine, which
combines very high precision dynamic occlusion culling with a form of
geometric mipmapping on the whole world for dynamic LOD for configurable
fps & graphic detail on most machines. Uses OpenGL & SDL.

Allows in-engine editing of geometry in full 3D (you fly around the map,
point / drag stuff to select it / modify it), which can even be done
simultaneously with others in multiplayer (a first!). Has simplistic but
effective fine grain vertex lighting that looks like lightmapping and
can do dynamic lights & shadows. Doesn't need any kind of map
precompilation, even lighting is done on the fly. Has very simplistic
quad-tree world structure that can do slopes (heightfields with caps)
and slants, water, does decent collision detection & physics, has
client/server networking that goes a long way in giving a lag-free game
experience, and features a Doom/Quake-style singleplayer (2 game modes,
savegames) and multiplayer (12 game modes, master server / server
browser, demo recording) game with some uncompromising brutal oldskool
gameplay.

Most of the engine design is targeted at reaching feature richness
through simplicity of structure and brute force, rather than finely
tuned complexity.

You can always download the latest release in the file section.
Officially supported platforms (client & server) are win32, linux & bsd
(x86), macosx (ppc) and pocketpc (xscale), and includes source code
(open source: ZLIB license). A recent readme is here that gives some
more information. Some screenshots.

The cube/Sauerbraten IRC channel is #sauerbraten on irc.quakenet.org.


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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

[Riskó Gergely]

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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

[Andrew Donnellan]

You have to send it to the *vote* address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
not the mailing list!

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