Re: freetype pre-release packages: testing needed

[Josselin Mouette]

Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 20:57 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Please note also that this package is up for adoption:
> 
>   http://bugs.debian.org/351821

Keith Packard already showed interest.
It may be interesting to have the package maintained in the
pkg-freedesktop repository, to have it together with fontconfig.
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Re: ./configure in debian/rules

[Tollef Fog Heen]

Pjotr Kourzanov wrote:


Yes, but the point was that mainteners get a warning from the
regular build system that their package is not cross-compile friendly.
That needs to hook into dpkg-buildpackage then, I'm afraid...


Please don't do this.  Some packages choose to not be cross-compilation 
friendly instead of carrying around an enormous diff for full 
relibtoolisation or similar.  I've generally had more trouble with 
passing --target and --host than not, but I don't use cross-compilation, 
so I might be biased.


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Re: The Debian Backup Server

[Frank Küster]

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Joey Hess wrote:
>> Martin Schulze wrote:
>> > The services in the backup are:
>> 
>> Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?
>
> No.
>
> Alioth will have its own backup facility.

But svn.debian.org is costa.debian.org, just that the access controls
work via alioth.

Anyway, do you know who's caring about backing up alioth, or about the
state of its backuping?

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Re: ./configure in debian/rules

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:17:19AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Pjotr Kourzanov wrote:

> >Yes, but the point was that mainteners get a warning from the
> >regular build system that their package is not cross-compile friendly.
> >That needs to hook into dpkg-buildpackage then, I'm afraid...

> Please don't do this.  Some packages choose to not be cross-compilation 
> friendly instead of carrying around an enormous diff for full 
> relibtoolisation or similar.  I've generally had more trouble with 
> passing --target and --host than not, but I don't use cross-compilation, 
> so I might be biased.

Well, you shouldn't pass --host *except* when cross-compiling; the
autotools-dev package shows how to do this.  But at least --build is always
a sane thing to specify, and usually saves you from upstreams optimizing for
the wrong architecture based on config.guess...

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ITP: emutos -- EmuTOS is a free replacement for Atari TOS

[Gürkan]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: emutos
Version : 0.8.1
Upstream Author : EmuTOS team (see doc/authors.txt)
* URL : http://emutos.sourceforge.net/en/
* License : GNU General Public License, version 2
Description : EmuTOS is a free replacement for Atari TOS
 This is a singleuser singletasking operating system for 32 bit Atari 
computer emulators, like Aranym ,  STonX 
 or Hatari  
. It is thought as a replacement for the TOS-images you usually need 
today for using emulators and it is also running on some real hardware, 
like the Atari Mega STE. All is open and maybe it is also running on 
totally new machines in the future.


This will be needed by hatari, stonx and aranym at least.
Will be here: http://io.debian.net/~tar/debian/emutos/

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Re: The Debian Backup Server

[Raphael Hertzog]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Alioth will have its own backup facility.
> 
> But svn.debian.org is costa.debian.org, just that the access controls
> work via alioth.
> 
> Anyway, do you know who's caring about backing up alioth, or about the
> state of its backuping?

It's a bit weird when I learn such things by reading debian-devel while
I'm supposed to be one of the Alioth administrators.

I *imagine* that it might be related to the new machine that we have
received for several months and that wiggy (Wichert Akkerman) is currently
preparing (but he looks like busy with many other things :-().

The new machine is *very* amazing (we're speaking in terabytes for disk
for example).

Cheers,
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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Lars Wirzenius]

ma, 2006-03-06 kello 19:39 -0800, Mike Fogel kirjoitti:
> However, I can't seem to figure out how to resolve this error:
> 
> $ dpkg -i custom-package.deb
>   ... installation goes perfectly 
> $ dpkg -P custom-package
>   ... removal goes perfectly until this error/warning
> dpkg - warning: while removing custom-package, unable to remove 
> directory `/opt': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount point ?
> 
> Well, yeah, /opt is a mount point, and it would definitely be a good 
> thing if it wasn't removed.  But how can I tell dpkg that I don't want 
> it to try to remove /opt??

What seems to happen here is that your package contains /opt as part of
the .deb, but nothing else on the system owns it. Thus, when you install
your package, dpkg assigns ownership of /opt to your package, and when
you remove the package, dpkg sees that only your package owns /opt, and
thus tries to remove it. Since it is not removable, you get a warning.

/opt is created by the base-files postinst script
(see /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst), instead of being included
in the base-files package. I am not sure why, but that's how it works.

I think you can just ignore the warning, even if it is a bit ugly. I
don't know of a way to get dpkg not remove the directory.

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Re: freetype pre-release packages: testing needed

[Frans Pop]

On Tuesday 07 March 2006 00:25, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Packages for freetype 2.2rc4 can be found at
> .  Please test them and let
> me know what breaks!

I have tested the udeb from that location with the graphical version of 
Debian Installer and seen no problems.

> In particular, it would be appreciated if users 
> could install freetype 2.2rc4 on sarge and confirm whether they're
> truly compatible; these binary packages are built against etch, though,
> so you'll need to rebuild to install it on sarge.

Done.

One strange thing is that the package let me install libfreetype6 without 
upgrading libfreetype6-dev.

Installing the new version also resulted in a change in how fonts look in 
KDE. See attached screenshots.

I'll let you know if I notice anything else.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Alexander Schmehl]

Hi!

* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060307 02:04]:
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> > DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> > developers.
> 
> I think/hope it should read "runs only this service".

For those not reading planet:
http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200603062347


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Re: Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

[Jonas Genannt]

hello,

Thomas Weber wrote:
Hi, 


Am Montag, den 06.03.2006, 22:31 +0100 schrieb Jonas Genannt:

* Package name: w3c-linkchecker
  Version : 4.2.1
  Upstream Author : Hugo Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/~scop/
* License : W3C Software License

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
  Description : check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document


Eh, is this the same program that comes as "checklink" with the
w3c-markup-validator? 


Please see #263716 and #324028

Greets,
Jonas


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Re: Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

[Thomas Weber]

Hi, 

Am Dienstag, den 07.03.2006, 11:13 +0100 schrieb Jonas Genannt:
> > Eh, is this the same program that comes as "checklink" with the
> > w3c-markup-validator? 
> 
> Please see #263716 and #324028

Thanks for that one; as I'm using the checklink command, but not the
validator, I'm looking forward to your package.

(No need to CC me, I'm subscribed).

Regards
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Incomplete Upload

[Marco Bertorello]

Hi folk,

I've recived this mail

http://pastebin.com/588778

about an incomplete upload.

My sponsor and I never uploaded this files.

Somebody can tell me something about?

Thanks,

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Re: The Debian Backup Server

[Jeroen van Wolffelaar]

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:33:50AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Joey Hess wrote:
> >> Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?
> > No.
> >
> > Alioth will have its own backup facility.
> 
> But svn.debian.org is costa.debian.org, just that the access controls
> work via alioth.
> 
> Anyway, do you know who's caring about backing up alioth, or about the
> state of its backuping?

I'm backupping svn.debian.org, cvs.alioth.debian.org, arch.debian.org
and lists.alioth.debian.org archives on a daily basis, with
increased-interval history[1], since halfway April 2005 (along with many
regular debian.org services which now probably largely superseded by the
official backup server). I started those after having talked to DSA
members in Vancouver, and the consequent (there was no relation to that,
though!) disk mayhem on gluck.

About the alioth backups, I did at least talk about this with Wichert,
and I thought I mailed about it with the alioth admins too, but I
definitely mailed about it with DSA (which incidently also includes
Wichert on the email address I used).

--Jeroen

[1] Roughly 7 different backups, spanning a month.

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Re: Incomplete Upload

[Benjamin Mesing]

Hello,

I would say line 15 says it pretty clearly:
If you didn't upload those files, please just ignore this
message.
>From that message I would deduce that things like this might happen from
time to time...

Best regards 
Ben

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Re: freetype pre-release packages: testing needed

[Josselin Mouette]

Le mardi 07 mars 2006 à 11:05 +0100, Frans Pop a écrit :
> Installing the new version also resulted in a change in how fonts look in 
> KDE. See attached screenshots.

It seems that the font rendering uses the autohinter, while it should
use the bytecode interpreter with the default configuration. The
bytecode interpreter may be broken in this version.
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Re: Incomplete Upload

[Loïc Minier]

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006, Marco Bertorello wrote:
> I've recived this mail
> http://pastebin.com/588778
> about an incomplete upload.

 Someone probably tagetted the upload to Debian, while it should have
 been uploaded to an internal host.  Given the version number
 (2.1-1law1) this looks like a local rebuild (perhaps with custom
 changes), and might have been done by someone named Law or for an
 organisation named Law.  There's at least a maintainer named Law, so
 this is quite likely.

 Don't worry about it, your sponsor can remove the files by uploading a
 commands file to rm the rests, or wait until these are automatically
 removed.

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Re: Mail Delivery (failure [EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: RFS: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-02-27 16:44:54, schrieb gregor herrmann:

> Taking a second look at both tools, I think you are right:
> clusterssh opens xterms with ssh sessions, multixterm opens multiple
> xterms (with whatever contents). So if you want to control several
> xterms at the same time that are not ssh sessions multixterm can
> handle this but clusterssh can't.

:-/
 
> If you would like to try multixterm the packages are still available at
> deb-src http://www.toastfreeware.priv.at/debian unstable/
> or
> http://www.toastfreeware.priv.at/debian/unstable/

I woll download it immediatly because I am
really interested in your multixterm.

 
> Greetings,
> gregor 

Greetings
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Systemadministrator
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Re: RFS: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

[gregor herrmann]

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 05:11:29PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

(shortening cc:-list)

> > clusterssh opens xterms with ssh sessions, multixterm opens multiple
> > xterms (with whatever contents). So if you want to control several
> > xterms at the same time that are not ssh sessions multixterm can
> > handle this but clusterssh can't.
> :-/

If you find a good argument why controlling multiple xterms
simultanously that contain no ssh sessions might be useful I guess
there's no problem with re-opening the ITP bug and looking for a
sponsor again.
  
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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Goswin von Brederlow]

"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mike Fogel wrote:
>> $ dpkg -P custom-package
>>  ... removal goes perfectly until this error/warning
>> dpkg - warning: while removing custom-package, unable to remove
>> directory `/opt': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount
>> point ?
>> 

> Hello Mike,
>
> This question is really more appropriate for debian-user.  However, the
> message you see from dpkg is just that, a warning.  Whenever a Debian
> package is removed and there are no packages left with files in a
> particular directory, dpkg tries to remove the directory.  Of course, it
> doesn't do an rm -rf (thankfully), so directories that are still
> populated can't be removed.  You see this, for example when removing a
> kernel-image package after you have added your own modules that are not
> part of a package under the control of dpkg.
>
> Anyhow, the warning is relatively harmless and can be safely ignored.
>
> (I hope that all of this is correct.  If I messed somethig up, someone
> please let me know.)
>
> -Roberto

You are more (theoreticaly) or less (practicaly) correct. Dpkg tries
to remove dirs when nothing in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list contains it
anymore. But dpkg also sometimes removes dirs from *.list on remove
(not purge) while the package still has conffiles in there (leading to
the 'dir not empty' warnings).

The bigger question is: Why is no package containing /opt? Shouldn't
that be in base-files like all the other core dirs?

MfG
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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[sean finney]

hi goswin, roberto, et al.

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:17:35AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> The bigger question is: Why is no package containing /opt? Shouldn't
> that be in base-files like all the other core dirs?

just a wild guess: for the same reason as /usr/local (policy/fhs)


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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Joey Hess]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> The bigger question is: Why is no package containing /opt? Shouldn't
> that be in base-files like all the other core dirs?

It's implemented as it is in base-files so that people who don't want it
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Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

[dann frazier]

> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Maybe the debian policy should require
> > -Werror-implicit-function-declaration in CFLAGS so as to avoid such
> > issue?
> 
>  Following that path would lead to -Wall -Werror  :-P
> 
>  I personally received some bug reports by Dann Frazier (dannf) for
>  warnings in build logs likely to cause runtime problems.  I think it's
>  the way to do it: someone maintains scripts parsing buildd logs for
>  mistakes and reporting bugs when appropriate.  Thanks dannf for your
>  work in this matter.
> 
>  It might be nice to maintain such scripts under some .debian.org
>  machine to share the burden and ensure long-term availability of the
>  tool, I have no idea whether this is already the case or not.

Missed this thread, but caught it in Debian Weekly News :)

I procmail-filter all of the ia64 buildd logs through a python script
written by David Mosberger.  I also did some retroactive scanning by
pbuilding as much of the archive as I could.

I used to track status here:
  http://wiki.debian.org/ImplicitPointerConversions

But usertags make it easier:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL 
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I'm certainly interested in adding addition test cases, and/or adding
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Box does not switch of on halt

[Andreas Tille]

Hi,

since about three weeks I observe problems when issuing halt
on three different testing-boxes (two older desktops without ACPI
and one laptop with ACPI).  The computer just does not switch off.
If I try to reboot it is also impossible, because the shutdown
process stops at the same point where halt stops.  The last
messages on the console are:

  Shutdown: hda
  System halted.

At one single time I managed to observe at the console

  Saving random seed ... done
  Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
  Try `grep --help` for more information
  Shutdown: hda
  System halted.
  Unmounting remote and non-toplevel virtual filesystems ... done

The log of one of this machine does not uncover something
interesting:

Mar  6 22:43:35 energija kernel: nfsd: last server has exited
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija kernel: nfsd: unexporting all filesystems
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija kernel: RPC: failed to contact portmap (errno -5).
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija mountd[1175]: Caught signal 15, un-registering and 
exiting.
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
Mar  6 22:43:35 energija exiting on signal 15


At Linux-Tage Chemnitz I discussed this problem with other
developers:

   1. One of them has observed the same (no solution)
   2. One visitor had the same problem. Installing Debians
  own linux kernel image package helped
   3. One hint was to load APM module

Remarks: I tried different kernels (I had originally installed
self-made 2.6.9 / 2.6.11, upgraded to self-made 2.6.15 and even
tried official 2.6.15 kernel image - see item 2.) but the
situation did not changed.  I suspected a change in the apmd
package and tried to downgrade the apmd package on the apmd
machines which also did not helped.

So the question is: what package might be responsible that
entered testing for about three weeks and how can I get my
boxes working as expected again.  I would love to write a
reasonable bug report but I have no idea against which package
so I could only issue this against general which is a little
bit naive.

Any help is very welcome

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[Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

[Arnaud Vandyck]

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Hi all,

This is a report from the debian-java meeting we (Michael Koch, Wolfgang
Baer and I) had at the FOSDEM[2], Bruxelles, Belgium. The discussion is
the continuation of the meeting we had at Oldenburg in september 2005[1].

Summary:
- - Debian-Java policy changes
- - Debian-Java welcomes women
- - Java in kFreeBSD port

1) Debian-Java policy changes

   We have some proposals about the Debian-Java policy changes that
includes:
- - java libraries built with debug symbols;
- - java libraries must not depends on java-runtime;
- - java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM;
- - add a new paragraph about building some java applications to native;
- - add a new paragraph about javadoc (if this happens, we could be the
only platform with a so good java documentation integration!);
- - solve the (rare) problem of arch depends java libraries;
- - enable the unit tests of java package (but will not be a blocker);
- - virtual machine should support the 'ext' directory if they provide
classloader extension;
- - rationalize java virtual packages;
- - use java-gcj-compat-dev to build java package if possible.

   That's a lot of changes and we are sure it will improuve Debian-Java.
We are preparing drafts at a secret location[2]. We will send all those
proposals as bugs against java-common package. We will review the
java-common package bugs and discuss changes on the BTS (note: all bugs
against java-common are forwarded to debian-java@lists.debian.org).
Thanks to wait the bug reports to discuss the Debian-Java Policy changes.

2) Debian-Java welcomes women

   I attended to the (excellent) presentation of Hanna Wallach about
FLOSSPOLS and I wondered how we could help. I thought about a logo on
the website but after some discussion on irc (#debian-women), it seems I
did not understand the point.

   Anyway, I think we can help if we review our documentation and
replace the 'he' occurences by something else (I don't know what is
prefered: he/she, (s)he, she/he, he/she, s-he, s/he, s(he)). Also, I
just wanna say we are open to help the Debian-Women project.

3) Java in kFreeBSD port

   I was at the presentation of Aurelien Jarno about kFreeBSD in the
Debian devroom at the FOSDEM and it seems there is no java on kFreeBSD.
Michael Koch told me he has a patch for JamVM. We'd like to provide Java
on the kFreeBSD port and we'll try to do it as soon as possible.

Thanks for your time and attention,

Arnaud Vandyck for the Debian-Java team[3]

[0] http://fosdem.org/
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg5.html
The discussion about Debian-Java at DevJam was with Wolfgang Baer,
Rene Engelhard, Michael Koch, Matthias Klose, Jeroen VanWolffelaar
and I.
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Draft
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-java
http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Mike Fogel]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Mike Fogel wrote:

$ dpkg -P custom-package
 ... removal goes perfectly until this error/warning
dpkg - warning: while removing custom-package, unable to remove
directory `/opt': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount
point ?




Hello Mike,

This question is really more appropriate for debian-user.  However, the
message you see from dpkg is just that, a warning.  Whenever a Debian
package is removed and there are no packages left with files in a
particular directory, dpkg tries to remove the directory.  Of course, it
doesn't do an rm -rf (thankfully), so directories that are still
populated can't be removed.  You see this, for example when removing a
kernel-image package after you have added your own modules that are not
part of a package under the control of dpkg.

Anyhow, the warning is relatively harmless and can be safely ignored.

(I hope that all of this is correct.  If I messed somethig up, someone
please let me know.)

-Roberto


You are more (theoreticaly) or less (practicaly) correct. Dpkg tries
to remove dirs when nothing in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list contains it
anymore. But dpkg also sometimes removes dirs from *.list on remove
(not purge) while the package still has conffiles in there (leading to
the 'dir not empty' warnings).

The bigger question is: Why is no package containing /opt? Shouldn't
that be in base-files like all the other core dirs?

MfG
Goswin


Thanks for your help all, I think I'll work around the warning by 
creating a "core-custom" package, which will hold the /opt, and be 
required by all the other custom packages.  I can also use that package 
  as a meta-package to install all the regular packages we like.  Not 
like the warning is a big deal, but the cleaner the better.


Cheers,

Mike


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missing packages

[Wolfgang Lonien]

Hi all,

I did an 'apt-cache stats' today, and it was very nice to see that we
have 17519 packages total.

3635 packages are "missing", however. An 'apt-cache unmet | grep -c
"unmet dep:" brings out 662 packages with unmet dependencies; 'apt-cache
-i unmet | grep -c "unmet dep:" shows 219 of them as "important".

Hmmm. That looks like a lot of work. But where to start? And who does
that? The QA team?

Sorry if I ask silly questions here - I'm a newbie (still reading and
therefore not even thinking about registering as a NM".

cheers,
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