Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Hendrik Sattler]

Am Montag, 6. März 2006 08:05 schrieb Miles Bader:
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments)
> > should be done by spaces.
> > Gains: shows fine in _every_ editor, no need to set tab-width.
>
> Losses: doesn't work well with many indenting styles (e.g. it would be a
> complete lose for stuff indented in GNU style).

Can you explain that?

Either the '{' and '}' are one indentation level down or the same indentation 
level.

> So no method really works well for every case (and thus the use of
> programs like bcpp [which I admit I've never used]).

I used indent before but its options have really cryptic names.

HS


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Avoiding installation trouble (suggested fix)

[Daniel Haude]

Hello folks,

I hope I am in the right forum for this. This probably concerns  
debian-installer.


I've been running several Debian sarge machines originating back from when  
sarge was in testing stage. Recently I had occasion to install Debian on  
another machine. I just popped in a netinstall CD and started off like I  
had many times before.


Soon I ran into trouble. After starting aptitude for the first times, I  
got into dependency loops that required removal of "essential" packages (I  
had to type in long sentences to force the installer to do what I wasn't  
supposed to do). The whole installation process was quite odd and bumpy  
and very unlike my previous experiences installing Debian. After a few  
more reboots I suddenly ended up with a kernel-less system whose root  
partition I couldn't even mount from a rescue CD because I couldn't guess  
the right kernel parameters for the SATA interface.


In the end I found out what was wrong: I had used an old install CD back  
from sarge==testing days. My /etc/apt/sources list therefore pointed at  
"testing" resources which, without a proper "dist-upgrade" (which at no  
point I had wanted because I wanted a sarge system), couldn't have worked.


After downloading burning a contemporary install CD everything of course  
went as smoothly as one has come to expect from a Debian system


To come to the end: I think a "sarge" install CD should always stay a  
"sarge" install CD no matter how old. Anybody wanting to install  
bleeding-edge systems can be expected to be able to download bleeding-edge  
install CDs as well, whereas the conservative lazy-ass won't appreciate  
falling into traps like I did. I'd suggest that there be some kind of  
check for gross age or version discrepancies between the install CD and  
the system about to be installed.


Thanks a lot,
--Daniel


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Re: the latest gnome

[Michael Banck]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 01:42:19PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > GNOME seems to be more and more focusing on the entry-level Linux user,
> > and less and less on advanced users. Most unfortunate, its much prettier
> > than KDE.
> 
> Indeed.  Wasn't there a fork of gnome for this reason recently?

Yes, it just never took off, because maybe Button position aren't that
important after all?  It was called Goneme, for the record.

Anyway, I don't think GNOME bashing is really on-topic here.


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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Bas Zoetekouw]

Hi Miles!

You wrote:

> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments) 
> > should
> > be done by spaces.
> > Gains: shows fine in _every_ editor, no need to set tab-width.
> 
> Losses: doesn't work well with many indenting styles (e.g. it would be a
> complete lose for stuff indented in GNU style).

Not at all.  Just set tabstop=2 or so.  

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Re: final warning, /usr/doc transition mass bug filing

[Bas Zoetekouw]

Hi Joey!

> I plan to file normal severity bugs on the following 252 packages, which
> all still create /usr/doc symlinks and which don't yet have a bug filed 
> about this. 23 such bugs already exist in the bts.

[snip list]

Is this just the list from lintian.debian.org, or did you do somehting
more fancy to find them?

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X installation trouble report

[Daniel Haude]

Hello Debian folks,

again I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but let me ask anyway.

Recently I installed a Debian sarge system on a brand-new system. In the  
end the X server wouldn't start up because the installer couldn't identify  
the video hardware.


So I did what I've done for years in such cases: boot Knoppix and see what  
it thinks about the hardware and transfer the settings to Debian ("vesa"  
turned out to be the right driver). Everything went fine afterwards.


My question is thus: If a Knoppix system (at least 1 year old) can  
properly identify the video hardware, shouldn't a Debian system be able to  
do it as well? I have no clue as to what it takes to fully automatically  
identify all the hardware in a computer, but somehow it's always Knoppix  
that seems to work miracles.


Personally, I don't mind much: I've been with Linux since kernel 0.99 and  
with Debian since slink. When I run into problems I always know where to  
look and whom to ask. But whenever I install new Debian systems, I try to  
simultaneously put myself in the role of a non-expert with a low  
frustration threshold. Sadly, frequently I have to come to the conclusion:  
No f***ing way is a non-nerd going to figure this out. And X is the most  
frequent stumbling block on the road to a working system.


Don't take this as criticism. I think Debian is great; I know many people  
are constantly working on making it better; and this is just an attempt to  
contribute to that effort.


Thanks,
--Daniel


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Re: Avoiding installation trouble (suggested fix)

[Frans Pop]

On Monday 06 March 2006 10:43, Daniel Haude wrote:
> In the end I found out what was wrong: I had used an old install CD
> back from sarge==testing days. My /etc/apt/sources list therefore
> pointed at "testing" resources which, without a proper "dist-upgrade"
> (which at no point I had wanted because I wanted a sarge system),
> couldn't have worked.
>
> After downloading burning a contemporary install CD everything of
> course went as smoothly as one has come to expect from a Debian system
>
> To come to the end: I think a "sarge" install CD should always stay a
> "sarge" install CD no matter how old.

This is already the case for current versions of the installer, though you 
are right that it was an issue with Sarge.


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Re: final warning, /usr/doc transition mass bug filing

[Tim Dijkstra]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:40:22 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I plan to file normal severity bugs on the following 252 packages,
> which all still create /usr/doc symlinks and which don't yet have a
> bug filed about this. 23 such bugs already exist in the bts.
> 
> 
> Tim Dijkstra (tdykstra) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>digitaldj

This (among other things) will be fixed in the next upload, which is in
my sponsor's hands right now.

grts Tim


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Re: X installation trouble report

[Christoph Berg]

Re: Daniel Haude in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> again I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but let me ask anyway.

Please don't hijack random threads. Start a new one.

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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Miles Bader]

Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Losses: doesn't work well with many indenting styles (e.g. it would be a
>> complete lose for stuff indented in GNU style).
>
> Can you explain that?
>
> Either the '{' and '}' are one indentation level down or the same indentation 
> level.

Because to follow your system, everybody that uses GNU indentation style
would have to use TAB == 2 spaces, which means that the contents of
indented blocks would be indented by two tabs per block level.

If you attempted to view such code using an application which uses the
standard tab size of 8 -- e.g., more or less in a terminal -- blocks
would end up being indented by _16 spaces per block level_, which is
(pardon my french) pretty fucking absurd.

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Re: the latest gnome

[Miles Bader]

Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyway, I don't think GNOME bashing is really on-topic here.

It's not gnome "bashing", it's just airing of a very common gripe with
gnome.  If there were indeed a viable fork that improved on some bad
thing about gnome, but kept the good things, I think it would be an
appropriate topic for this list (however, it seems that there is not).

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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Hendrik Sattler]

Am Montag, 6. März 2006 10:59 schrieb Miles Bader:
> If you attempted to view such code using an application which uses the
> standard tab size of 8 -- e.g., more or less in a terminal -- blocks
> would end up being indented by _16 spaces per block level_, which is
> (pardon my french) pretty fucking absurd.

That's why I like neither GNU style nor 8bit tab width ;)
Combining both makes it absurd, you are right. But the user is free to choose 
a sane value for tab width (e.g. 4 or 2) without having to reformat the code 
as it will automatically adapt to this setting.

HS


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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Hendrik Sattler]

Am Montag, 6. März 2006 11:39 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> 8bit tab width

s/8bit/8 spaces/

me is confused

HS


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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Adam Borowski]

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote:

Can you explain that?

Either the '{' and '}' are one indentation level down or the same indentation
level.


Hah!  Not in GNU.
The GNU coding standards want you to indent '{' and '}' x/2 spaces, while 
the code inside is indented x.  So, the result is:


if (foo)
{
bar;
baz;
}

Yes, this is bizarre -- but at least GNU folks don't stick the opening
brace in the same line as "if" like certain heretics do.

You can find as many strange coding styles as you can find religions or 
editors.  And all of them have their fanatical believers who are ready to 
stone heathens.


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Re: the latest gnome

[Ross Burton]

On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 13:42 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > GNOME seems to be more and more focusing on the entry-level Linux user,
> > and less and less on advanced users. Most unfortunate, its much prettier
> > than KDE.
> 
> Indeed.  Wasn't there a fork of gnome for this reason recently?

Ah yes, GoneMe.  That was a blazing success...

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Re: the latest gnome

[Daniel Stone]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:05:34PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Anyway, I don't think GNOME bashing is really on-topic here.
> 
> It's not gnome "bashing", it's just airing of a very common gripe with
> gnome.  If there were indeed a viable fork that improved on some bad
> thing about gnome, but kept the good things, I think it would be an
> appropriate topic for this list (however, it seems that there is not).

Why on earth are you doing it on debian-devel, then?  This list doesn't
need any more pointless noise: take it somewhere else, please.


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Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

[Jon Dowland]

At 1141671548, Miles Bader wrote:
> If you attempted to view such code using an application
> which uses the standard tab size of 8 -- e.g., more or
> less in a terminal -- blocks would end up being indented
> by _16 spaces per block level_, which is (pardon my
> french) pretty fucking absurd.

Indeed it is: so you have two options when facing such code

a) use an editor which lets you customize the tab-stop
b) use a tool such as bcpp to reformat the source

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Re: the latest gnome

[Jon Dowland]

At 1141304953, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > In any case, since the latest gnome has also disabled
> > the help system (or rather, the most up-to-date manual
> > is the accessibility guide for 2.8 and the user's guide
> > for 2.6), where has the feature moved to this week?
> 
> Ah, fortunately, the FreeBSD gnome maintainers believe in
> documentation, so I found the answer there.

For those of merely following the thread, rather than using
bleeding-edge GNOME, could you share the secret?

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Bug#355578: ITP: geekast -- GNOME interface to peercast

[Romain Beauxis]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Romain Beauxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: geekast
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Frédéric Logier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://gna.org/projects/geekast/
* License : GPL
  Description : GNOME interface to peercast

 Geekast is an alternative to the Web interface.
 Currenly, it can perform audio (Ogg and MP3) or video (OGM) streaming
 through an external player like totem, or an internal player based on
 the Gstreamer multimedia framework.
 In the future, it should be possible to encode a Webcam or any
 input stream over the peercast network.
  

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-powerpc
Locale: LANG=fr_FR, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Bug#355610: ITP: libeqimbase -- a set of C++ classes to encapsulate the EQIM protocol

[Bob Tanner]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Robert J. Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: libeqimbase
  Version : 2004.12.15
  Upstream Author : Tai Mai Shu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://teqim.sourceforge.net/?p=eqimbase
* License : GPL
  Description : a set of C++ classes to encapsulate the EQIM protocol

 Works on linux or Windows (compiles as-is with g++ and MS Visual Studio)
 Object-oriented design separates the protocol into its basic parts
 Base interface class to be used for the actual user interaction
 Keeps track of buddies, channels and channel members internally, 
 notifying the interface on changes
 Portable threading solutions included

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'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-1-686
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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Martin Schulze]

Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> Am Montag, 6. März 2006 18:29 schrieb Martin Schulze:
> > The Debian project happily announces the re-availability of the
> > packages.debian.org service on a new machine.  The system has been
> > donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> > DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> > developers.
> 
> What does it mean that the machine runs this service only for Debian users 
> and 
> developers?  How can the machine make sure that the person which accesses the 
> machine is either a user or a developer of Debian?

It checks the User-Agent string.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Wolfgang Jeltsch]

Am Montag, 6. März 2006 18:29 schrieb Martin Schulze:
> The Debian project happily announces the re-availability of the
> packages.debian.org service on a new machine.  The system has been
> donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> developers.

What does it mean that the machine runs this service only for Debian users and 
developers?  How can the machine make sure that the person which accesses the 
machine is either a user or a developer of Debian?

> [...]

Best wishes,
Wolfgang

Re: New packages.debian.org

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> > Am Montag, 6. März 2006 18:29 schrieb Martin Schulze:
> > > The Debian project happily announces the re-availability of the
> > > packages.debian.org service on a new machine.  The system has been
> > > donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> > > DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> > > developers.
> > 
> > What does it mean that the machine runs this service only for Debian users 
> > and 
> > developers?  How can the machine make sure that the person which accesses 
> > the 
> > machine is either a user or a developer of Debian?
> 
> It checks the User-Agent string.

And now, the important question: why are we doing this?

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Ben Armstrong]

On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:38 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> It checks the User-Agent string.

What are the expected results for a user accessing the following URL
from IE running on a W2K terminal server?  I didn't notice any
restrictions.

http://packages.debian.org/tuxpaint

Ben


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Re: Bug#355610: ITP: libeqimbase -- a set of C++ classes to encapsulate the EQIM protocol

[Steinar H. Gunderson]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 12:07:25PM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote:
>  Works on linux or Windows (compiles as-is with g++ and MS Visual Studio)
>  Object-oriented design separates the protocol into its basic parts
>  Base interface class to be used for the actual user interaction
>  Keeps track of buddies, channels and channel members internally, 
>  notifying the interface on changes
>  Portable threading solutions included

You might want to cut down on the fluff about object-orientation and
concentrate on what the library really _does_. For starters, what is the EQIM
protocol?

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Henning Makholm]

Scripsit Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Am Montag, 6. März 2006 18:29 schrieb Martin Schulze:

>> It is a DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian
>> users and developers.

> What does it mean that the machine runs this service only for Debian
> users and developers?

It probably means that the machine is dedicated to being p.d.o and
runs no other services.

> How can the machine make sure that the person which accesses the 
> machine is either a user or a developer of Debian?

It is probably thought that the fact that somebody wishes to look up a
package on p.d.o. implicitly implies that this somebody must be Debian
user or developer.

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Thomas Weber]

Hi, 

Am Montag, den 06.03.2006, 15:11 -0400 schrieb Ben Armstrong:
> On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:38 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > It checks the User-Agent string.
> 
> What are the expected results for a user accessing the following URL
> from IE running on a W2K terminal server?

I guess the original "only runs this service" should be parsed as
"there's no additionally ftp server, archive or whatever" on this
machine.

Reading the whole message on debian-devel-announce seems to suggest this
interpretation.


Regards
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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 03:11:30PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> > It checks the User-Agent string.
> 
> What are the expected results for a user accessing the following URL
> from IE running on a W2K terminal server?  I didn't notice any
> restrictions.
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/tuxpaint

Maybe because it was rather ironic answer. At least for me ;)

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Re: The Debian Backup Server

[Joey Hess]

Martin Schulze wrote:
> The services in the backup are:

Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?

(/me is glad he's still backing up his svn repos on his own..)

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Robert Lemmen]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 06:29:29PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> The Debian project happily announces the re-availability of the
> packages.debian.org service on a new machine.  The system has been
> [...]


really cool and thanks to schlund and partner, but the links to the
changelogs and the copyright file at the bottom of each packages page
don't work. probbaly just something really minor...

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Re: final warning, /usr/doc transition mass bug filing

[Joey Hess]

Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> Is this just the list from lintian.debian.org, or did you do somehting
> more fancy to find them?

Only removed packages that already had bugs filed from that.

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Henning Makholm]

Scripsit Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> really cool and thanks to schlund and partner, but the links to the
> changelogs and the copyright file at the bottom of each packages page
> don't work. probbaly just something really minor...

Didn't such things use to be static and cronjob-maintained? Chances
are good that they will be there come morning.

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Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

[Jonas Genannt]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Genannt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: w3c-linkchecker
  Version : 4.2.1
  Upstream Author : Hugo Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/~scop/
* License : W3C Software License

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
  Description : check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

checklink is a program that reads an HTML or XHTML document, extracts a
list of anchors and lists and checks that no anchor is defined twice and
that all the links are dereferenceable, including the fragments. It
warns about HTTP redirects, including directory redirects, and can check
recursively a part of a web site.


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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Martin Schulze]

Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > really cool and thanks to schlund and partner, but the links to the
> > changelogs and the copyright file at the bottom of each packages page
> > don't work. probbaly just something really minor...
> 
> Didn't such things use to be static and cronjob-maintained? Chances
> are good that they will be there come morning.

They require a local mirror which is still to be activated.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: The Debian Backup Server

[Martin Schulze]

Joey Hess wrote:
> Martin Schulze wrote:
> > The services in the backup are:
> 
> Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?

No.

Alioth will have its own backup facility.

> (/me is glad he's still backing up his svn repos on his own..)

Good.

Regards,

Joey

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freetype pre-release packages: testing needed

[Steve Langasek]

Hi folks,

I'm happy to report that there's been some positive progress regarding
freetype's pending ABI transition since I last posted about it[1].  In
response to concerns from a number of vendors about the disruptive effect
this transition would have on desktop distributions, freetype upstream has
done a tremendous job of restoring ABI compatibility with freetype 2.1.7 for
the upcoming 2.2 release.

Packages for freetype 2.2rc4 can be found at
.  Please test them and let me
know what breaks!  In particular, it would be appreciated if users could
install freetype 2.2rc4 on sarge and confirm whether they're truly
compatible; these binary packages are built against etch, though, so you'll
need to rebuild to install it on sarge.

Testing the packages against testing/unstable is also appreciated.  So far,
the only suspected problem is with sdl-ttf in etch; everything else I've
tested works fine with this build of the package.  There seems to be a
rendering glitch of some kind, which I'm chasing up with upstream, but
in terms of binary compatibility it appears to check out and give us a
usable libfreetype6 for etch.

As part of this upgrade, freetype upstream is also decisively getting rid of
the internal header files that allowed the version skew to happen in the
first place.  This means that a number of packages that are poking at
internal freetype interfaces now will FTBFS once 2.2 reaches unstable.  See
http://www.freetype.org/freetype2/patches/rogue-patches.html for more
information on this.

Cheers,
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[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00016.html


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Bug#355643: ITP: xsltsl -- XSLT Standard Library stylesheets

[Neil Williams]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: xsltsl
  Version : 1.2.2
  Upstream Author : Steve Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://xsltsl.sourceforge.net/
* License : LGPL
  Description : XSLT Standard Library stylesheets

The XSLT Standard Library, xsltsl, provides the XSLT developer with a
set of XSLT templates for commonly used functions. These are implemented
purely in XSLT, that is they do not use any extensions.

The current version, 1.2.1, has an unclear/incomplete licence declaration 
and the release contains spurious CVS directories but after contacting the
upstream developer, both issues should be resolved for the next release.

Hence this ITP is for the next release, 1.2.2 or later.

Some of these stylesheets are likely to be included in the pilot-qof package 
in the meantime.


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Re: New packages.debian.org

[MJ Ray]

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> developers.

I think/hope it should read "runs only this service".

Hope that helps,
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Re: Processed: block 322762 with 355341

[Brian May]

On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 19:04 -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.15
> > block 322762 with 355341
> Bug#322762: /usr/doc still exists (transition tracking bug)
> Was blocked by: 189856 190020 203278 254800 254913 254924 254930 255590 
> 256250 302504 319726 320084 320103 321926 322749 322769 322772 322775 322776 
> 322778 322779 322781 322782 322783 322784 322785 322786 322787 322788 322789 
> 322790 322791 322792 322793 322794 322795 322797 322798 322799 322800 322801 
> 322803 322804 322805 322806 322807 322808 322809 322810 322811 322812 322813 
> 322814 322815 322816 322817 322818 322819 322820 322828 322829 322830 322831 
> 322832 322833 322834 322835 322837 322838 322839 352893 352894 353569
> Blocking bugs added: 355341

What does the "block" command do? I have never seen it documented
anywhere, including at http://bugs.debian.org/>. Did I miss
something?
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Re: Processed: block 322762 with 355341

[Don Armstrong]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006, Brian May wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 19:04 -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > 
> > > # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.15
> > > block 322762 with 355341
> > Bug#322762: /usr/doc still exists (transition tracking bug)
> > Was blocked by: 189856 190020 203278 254800 254913 254924 254930 255590 
> > 256250 302504 319726 320084 320103 321926 322749 322769 322772 322775 
> > 322776 322778 322779 322781 322782 322783 322784 322785 322786 322787 
> > 322788 322789 322790 322791 322792 322793 322794 322795 322797 322798 
> > 322799 322800 322801 322803 322804 322805 322806 322807 322808 322809 
> > 322810 322811 322812 322813 322814 322815 322816 322817 322818 322819 
> > 322820 322828 322829 322830 322831 322832 322833 322834 322835 322837 
> > 322838 322839 352893 352894 353569
> > Blocking bugs added: 355341
> 
> What does the "block" command do? I have never seen it documented
> anywhere, including at http://bugs.debian.org/>. Did I miss
> something?

Indicates that a bug cannot be closed/fixed/addressed until the bugs
that it is blocked by are closed.

See #342938 et al. for more information about the documentation bug.


Don Armstrong

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TCP. The 80's called, they want their features back.
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custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Mike Fogel]

hello all debian-devel,

This seems like a very basic issue, but I've searched through the 
mailing lists and web and haven't found any help.


I'm trying to create a basic set of custom packages which will hold some 
of our software, complied and customized as we like it for our machines. 
 We like to put our custom build software in /opt.  Everything is 
working fine, I have basic postinst and prerm scripts working well.


However, I can't seem to figure out how to resolve this error:

$ dpkg -i custom-package.deb
 ... installation goes perfectly 
$ dpkg -P custom-package
 ... removal goes perfectly until this error/warning
dpkg - warning: while removing custom-package, unable to remove 
directory `/opt': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount point ?


Well, yeah, /opt is a mount point, and it would definitely be a good 
thing if it wasn't removed.  But how can I tell dpkg that I don't want 
it to try to remove /opt??


Thanks much!!!

Mike




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Re: custom package error: dpkg -P tries to remove /opt

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Mike Fogel wrote:
> hello all debian-devel,
> 
> This seems like a very basic issue, but I've searched through the
> mailing lists and web and haven't found any help.
> 
> I'm trying to create a basic set of custom packages which will hold some
> of our software, complied and customized as we like it for our machines.
>  We like to put our custom build software in /opt.  Everything is
> working fine, I have basic postinst and prerm scripts working well.
> 
> However, I can't seem to figure out how to resolve this error:
> 
> $ dpkg -i custom-package.deb
>  ... installation goes perfectly 
> $ dpkg -P custom-package
>  ... removal goes perfectly until this error/warning
> dpkg - warning: while removing custom-package, unable to remove
> directory `/opt': Device or resource busy - directory may be a mount
> point ?
> 
> Well, yeah, /opt is a mount point, and it would definitely be a good
> thing if it wasn't removed.  But how can I tell dpkg that I don't want
> it to try to remove /opt??
> 
> Thanks much!!!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
Hello Mike,

This question is really more appropriate for debian-user.  However, the
message you see from dpkg is just that, a warning.  Whenever a Debian
package is removed and there are no packages left with files in a
particular directory, dpkg tries to remove the directory.  Of course, it
doesn't do an rm -rf (thankfully), so directories that are still
populated can't be removed.  You see this, for example when removing a
kernel-image package after you have added your own modules that are not
part of a package under the control of dpkg.

Anyhow, the warning is relatively harmless and can be safely ignored.

(I hope that all of this is correct.  If I messed somethig up, someone
please let me know.)

-Roberto

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Re: New packages.debian.org

[Joe Smith]

"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006, Martin Schulze wrote:

Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> Am Montag, 6. März 2006 18:29 schrieb Martin Schulze:
> > The Debian project happily announces the re-availability of the
> > packages.debian.org service on a new machine.  The system has been
> > donated by Schlund + Parner where it is hosted as well.  It is a
> > DualCore Opteron and only runs this service for Debian users and
> > developers.
>
> What does it mean that the machine runs this service only for Debian 
> users and
> developers?  How can the machine make sure that the person which 
> accesses the

> machine is either a user or a developer of Debian?

It checks the User-Agent string.

And now, the important question: why are we doing this?

That was sarcasm.

"  It [...] only runs this service for Debian users and developers."
should have been something like:
"This is the only debian user/developer service running on this machine"




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Re: freetype pre-release packages: testing needed

[Steve Langasek]

Follow-up to myself:

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 03:25:58PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:

> I'm happy to report that there's been some positive progress regarding
> freetype's pending ABI transition since I last posted about it[1].  In
> response to concerns from a number of vendors about the disruptive effect
> this transition would have on desktop distributions, freetype upstream has
> done a tremendous job of restoring ABI compatibility with freetype 2.1.7 for
> the upcoming 2.2 release.

> Packages for freetype 2.2rc4 can be found at
> .  Please test them and let me
> know what breaks!  In particular, it would be appreciated if users could
> install freetype 2.2rc4 on sarge and confirm whether they're truly
> compatible; these binary packages are built against etch, though, so you'll
> need to rebuild to install it on sarge.

Please note also that this package is up for adoption:

  http://bugs.debian.org/351821

People willing to lend a hand with this package in a team maintenance
setting are welcomed to follow up to the RFA bug and volunteer.

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Re: Bug#355638: ITP: w3c-linkchecker -- check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

[Thomas Weber]

Hi, 

Am Montag, den 06.03.2006, 22:31 +0100 schrieb Jonas Genannt:
> * Package name: w3c-linkchecker
>   Version : 4.2.1
>   Upstream Author : Hugo Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~scop/
> * License : W3C Software License
>   
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
>   Description : check the validity of links in an HTML or XHTML document

Eh, is this the same program that comes as "checklink" with the
w3c-markup-validator? 

Regards
Thomas



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