Re: Race condition in /proc/bus/usb + hotplug

[Marco d'Itri]

On Oct 04, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (2) and (3) above are a hideous race that needs to be fixed.  It probably
Right: use udev.

> could be used to gain limited, but still unauthorized access to mass-storage
> devices for example (I didn't test).
How?

> In that case, the fix would probably be to get rid of usbfs completely... as
Done: 2.6.14 will provide /dev/bus/usb/ devices which can be managed
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Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Mikael Olenfalk]

Hi!

I have built ubuntu-hoary packages for anjuta 2.0.1 for amd64, which I
have made available in my repository at: http://mikael.is-a-geek.org/.

I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am
wondering if it is possible to build packages for debian sid on
ubuntu. I do not have another machine and wonder if it is possible to
do this using a special chroot or something (what is this pbuilder
thing btw?).

I could of course just install VW-Ware or something, but it would of
course be nice it I could build everything on the "same" machine.


Thanks in advance!

/Mikael

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

[Josselin Mouette]

Le lundi 03 octobre 2005 à 23:09 +0200, Vegar Storvann a écrit :
> * Package name: debinstaller
>   Version : 0.2.2
>   Upstream Author : Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
> * URL : http://www.daimi.au.dk/~kamstrup/linux/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages
> 
> Far too often people (read: newbies) get confused when they can't get
> *insert favorite package manager* to install the .deb's they've just
> downloaded. With DebInstaller installation is simply a double click
> away.  No fancy features, just a small dialog that ask for the sudo password
> and if you really want to install.

Which toolkit does it use?
Does it pull dependencies using APT as well? That feature has been
missing in APT for a long time.
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Re: Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Loïc Minier]

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 04, 2005, Mikael Olenfalk wrote:
> I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am
> wondering if it is possible to build packages for debian sid on
> ubuntu. I do not have another machine and wonder if it is possible to
> do this using a special chroot or something (what is this pbuilder
> thing btw?).

 Yes, pbuilder is a good option to do so, and a dchroot is another good
 option.  For pbuilder, install the pbuilder packages, and read the
 pbuilder manual page.  For a chroot, you can check "dchroot" which has
 some instructions, or the Debian installer manual, especially section
 C4 which was just updated by Frans Pop (/me waves) at:


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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Piotr Roszatycki]

On Monday 03 of October 2005 18:12, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> severity serious.
>
> Another pointer:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00128.html

It is cool that you filled the bug report for my package (php4-pear-log) but 
I've found several more packages which are licensed with PHP License:

php-auth - 3.0
php-date - 3.0
php-db - 3.0
php-file - 3.0
php-html-template-it - 2.0
php-http - 3.0
php-imlib - 2.0
php-mail - 2.0
php-net-checkip - 2.0
php-net-smtp - 2.0
php-net-socket - 2.0
php-services-weather - 2.0
php-xml-parser - 3.0

Are you going to report the problem for these packages too?

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Re: Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Frank Küster]

Mikael Olenfalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am
> wondering if it is possible to build packages for debian sid on
> ubuntu. I do not have another machine and wonder if it is possible to
> do this using a special chroot or something (what is this pbuilder
> thing btw?).

pbuilder is exactly designed for what you want to do.  Just install it
and read the docs.

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Re: Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo]

On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:50:33AM +0200, Mikael Olenfalk wrote:
> I have built ubuntu-hoary packages for anjuta 2.0.1 for amd64, which I
> have made available in my repository at: http://mikael.is-a-geek.org/.
> 
> I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am
> wondering if it is possible to build packages for debian sid on
> ubuntu. I do not have another machine and wonder if it is possible to
> do this using a special chroot or something (what is this pbuilder
> thing btw?).

pbuilder is something you're looking for.

`apt-get install pbuilder`
`pbuilder create --distribution sid`

`pbuilder build anjuta_blablabla.dsc` 

> I could of course just install VW-Ware or something, but it would of
> course be nice it I could build everything on the "same" machine.

You can also use debootstrap to make chrooted sid on your Ubuntu, but
pbuilder is more automated tool (it's a wrapper around debootstrap).

regards
fEnIo

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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[Joerg Jaspert]
> Another pointer:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00128.html

Are you sure you get this right.  When I read the license, it look
like a bad choosen license for PEAR (because of all the references to
PHP), but not like a non-free license.  The fact that the PHP name
can't be used for derived versions do not make the license non-free.
It is similar to using trademark law to block the use of a given name,
but give out all the source as free software (just look at RedHat,
providing all the source, but denying others to call their collection
of packages RedHat).

So perhaps the license is free according to DFSG?


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Re: Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:50:33AM +0200, Mikael Olenfalk wrote:
> I have built ubuntu-hoary packages for anjuta 2.0.1 for amd64, which I
> have made available in my repository at: http://mikael.is-a-geek.org/.
> 
> I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am

It would be better to get the new version into Debian properly
so that all architectures benefit. The current package version
1.2.4 is available on amd64 and all other debian arches.

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Bug#331636: ITP: scorereadingtrainer -- Trainer for reading music notes

[Steffen Joeris]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: scorereadingtrainer
  Version : 0.1.3
  Upstream Author : José Pablo Ezequiel "Pupeno" Fernández
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://scret.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : Trainer for reading music notes

 This is learning software to train and improve skills
 in reading music notes. Scorereadingtrainer generates
 random notes and the user shall identificate the notes.
 It can produce various music gamuts in different
 clefs.
 .
 This software can be useful for music teachers
 to let the students work alone and learn/improve their
 skills in reading music notes alone.

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Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)

Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Simon Guerrero]

Hi
 
I am developing a 
"kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up fast and b) be able to switch 
off and back on and restart with a clean image.
 
I have 
1Gb filesys to play with (CF or similar) and 128-256mb 
RAM.
 
I was hoping to do 
something like this:
 
1. Make the disk 
read-only
 
2. Use software suspend with KEEPIMAGE to always start from a 
stored image, and do the following in a resume script:
 
    
a. Load the 'writeable' parts of the system (e.g. /tmp, 
/var) from disk images and mount them into the right mount 
points
    
b. Start up X and appropriate 
applications.
 
 
I don't want any 
data (e.g. cookies, cache, logs etc) to be saved, so that the box can be 
restored just by switching it off and back on.
 
I was looking at 
using loop devices to mount /var and /tmp, but how can I make sure that the 
image on the disk won't be changed? Can I mount a loop device so the ramdisk is 
writeable but the disk file isn't? Or can anyone suggest a better way of doing 
this?
 
Thanks for your 
help
 
Simon

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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[Simon Guerrero]
> I am developing a "kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up fast
> and b) be able to switch off and back on and restart with a clean image.

Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a
the system from a normal live CD.  Perhaps you should check out the
possibilities with live CDs?


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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Mattia Dongili]

On Tue, October 4, 2005 1:04 pm, Petter Reinholdtsen said:
> [Simon Guerrero]
>> I am developing a "kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up
>> fast
>> and b) be able to switch off and back on and restart with a clean image.
>
> Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a

about a) an partly b): would suspending (S4) to a swap file once and the
always resume from that without overwriting it reach the goal?
Note: never tried it.

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Bug#331642: RFH: fetchmail -- SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder

[Nico Golde]

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Hi,
I am searching for a new Co-maintainer for fetchmail since 
Goswin von Brederlow and Lucas Wall don't have much spare 
time anymore and the next release of fetchmail doesn't seem 
to be far away.
The new Co-maintainer should be a DD cause I am still in the 
NM process so I am not able to upload packages.
Please mail me if you want to help.
The fetchmail package is managed via svn so a bit of 
knowledge about version control might be good.

Regards Nico


I request assistance with maintaining the fetchmail package.

The package description is:
 fetchmail is a free, full-featured, robust, and well-documented remote mail
 retrieval and forwarding utility intended to be used over on-demand TCP/IP
 links (such as SLIP or PPP connections).  It retrieves mail from remote mail
 servers and forwards it to your local (client) machine's delivery system, so
 it can then be read by normal mail user agents such as mutt, elm, pine,
 (x)emacs/gnus, or mailx.  The fetchmailconf package includes an interactive
 GUI configurator suitable for end-users. Kerberos IV & V, RPA, OPIE and
 GSSAPI support are available if the package is recompiled.

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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Torsten Marek]

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Mattia Dongili schrieb:
> On Tue, October 4, 2005 1:04 pm, Petter Reinholdtsen said:
> 
>>[Simon Guerrero]
>>
>>>I am developing a "kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up
>>>fast
>>>and b) be able to switch off and back on and restart with a clean image.
>>
>>Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a
> 
> 
> about a) an partly b): would suspending (S4) to a swap file once and the
> always resume from that without overwriting it reach the goal?
> Note: never tried it.
> 
Hi,

this could be possible, one should however be careful about the file system,
since the suspended image might contain information about the status of the file
system that does not longer hold true (at least with suspend2). Mounting most of
the file systems ro permanently should however solve this problem.

best regards

Torsten

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Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Josselin Mouette [Tue, Oct 04 2005, 10:10:22AM]:

> > Far too often people (read: newbies) get confused when they can't get
> > *insert favorite package manager* to install the .deb's they've just
> > downloaded. With DebInstaller installation is simply a double click
> > away.  No fancy features, just a small dialog that ask for the sudo password
> > and if you really want to install.
> 
> Which toolkit does it use?
> Does it pull dependencies using APT as well? That feature has been
> missing in APT for a long time.

I wonder why nobody did implement that feature before. I imagine
(without knowing much about APT's internals), the pseudocode would look
like that:

 - install command gets the list
 - if the package does not exist in the cache and the given string is a
   file, then:
   - read the metadata of this package
   - creating a virtual sources set containing that package and inject
 it somewhere in APTs graph representation. The access method
 would be "file:", and it should get the highest possible priority
 (at least higher than any seen priority)
   - install the prerequisites and then the package with the usual
 methods
   fi

There may be some confusion if some package is really called
something.deb but AFAICS there is no such package.

If somebody steps out to implement the feature above, please tell me.
Otherwise I would try my luck when I get some spare time.

Eduard.
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RE: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Simon Guerrero]

Hi

Thanks for your responses. The "suspend and always resume without
overwriting" is done by software suspend, with no problem. It is the
difficulty of resuming the writeable parts of the filesystem (/var and /tmp)
each time from an image which I am not sure about.

I am thinking about adding a script to the rc2.d (or other runlevel) which
does:

 cat /ramdisks/var.img > /dev/ram1
mount /dev/ram1 /var
and
cat /ramdisks/tmp.img > /dev/ram2
mount /dev/ram2 /tmp


...would that do the job? Maybe it is simpler than I thought :-/

Simon

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On Tue, October 4, 2005 1:04 pm, Petter Reinholdtsen said:
> [Simon Guerrero]
>> I am developing a "kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up
>> fast
>> and b) be able to switch off and back on and restart with a clean image.
>
> Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a

about a) an partly b): would suspending (S4) to a swap file once and the
always resume from that without overwriting it reach the goal?
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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Alexander Wirt]

Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb am Dienstag, den 04. Oktober 2005:

> [Joerg Jaspert]
> > Another pointer:
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00128.html
> 
+snip+
> So perhaps the license is free according to DFSG?
Of course its free. But it only fits to php itself. If you wan't to use it
with php as it is, it just won't fit to the pear module, which leads to a
point where the code have no license, because the php couldn't be adapted to
that code, which makes the code undistributable. Not non-free, but
non-distributable. Moving the non-free wouldn't be suitable, it has to be
removed from debian. 

As Jörg stated in his reject mail: "The reason for this decision is the
license which does not really fit the package.". Not: this license is
non-free!

Best wishes
Alex

P.S. forgive me if I'm wrong here, I'm no lawyer :)

RE: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Simon Guerrero]

Yes, I will have a look at how the live CD creation works. I guess I never
thought of it as a Live CD but it's doing something quite similar (just with
software suspend too).

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[Simon Guerrero]
> I am developing a "kiosk" type of system, where I want to a) boot up fast
> and b) be able to switch off and back on and restart with a clean image.

Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a
the system from a normal live CD.  Perhaps you should check out the
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RE: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Simon Guerrero]

Yes, you're right about suspend2 - I figured if I mount most of the
filesystems ro, then create the writeable ones each time from static images,
I shouldn't have issues with corruption - right?

Simon



>>Part a is a bit tricky, but should be solvable.  Part b sounds like a
> 
> 
> about a) an partly b): would suspending (S4) to a swap file once and the
> always resume from that without overwriting it reach the goal?
> Note: never tried it.
> 
Hi,

this could be possible, one should however be careful about the file system,
since the suspended image might contain information about the status of the
file
system that does not longer hold true (at least with suspend2). Mounting
most of
the file systems ro permanently should however solve this problem.

best regards

Torsten

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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

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Simon Guerrero schrieb:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your responses. The "suspend and always resume without
> overwriting" is done by software suspend, with no problem. It is the
> difficulty of resuming the writeable parts of the filesystem (/var and /tmp)
> each time from an image which I am not sure about.
> 
> I am thinking about adding a script to the rc2.d (or other runlevel) which
> does:
> 
>  cat /ramdisks/var.img > /dev/ram1
> mount /dev/ram1 /var
> and
>   cat /ramdisks/tmp.img > /dev/ram2
>   mount /dev/ram2 /tmp
> 
> 
Hi,

that might be one way, but I don't know if there are any problems if frozen
programs have open files on /tmp or /var, since the processes are resumed before
any run-level scripts (?).
Maybe I am missing something, but if you have /tmp and /var as (size-restricted)
tmpfs's when you create the image in the first place, what is the problem with 
that?

best regards

Torsten
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RE: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Simon Guerrero]

Hi

Doh! I forgot about tmpfs. That would be fine. I think I should start again.
8-)

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Simon Guerrero schrieb:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your responses. The "suspend and always resume without
> overwriting" is done by software suspend, with no problem. It is the
> difficulty of resuming the writeable parts of the filesystem (/var and
/tmp)
> each time from an image which I am not sure about.
> 
> I am thinking about adding a script to the rc2.d (or other runlevel) which
> does:
> 
>  cat /ramdisks/var.img > /dev/ram1
> mount /dev/ram1 /var
> and
>   cat /ramdisks/tmp.img > /dev/ram2
>   mount /dev/ram2 /tmp
> 
> 
Hi,

that might be one way, but I don't know if there are any problems if frozen
programs have open files on /tmp or /var, since the processes are resumed
before
any run-level scripts (?).
Maybe I am missing something, but if you have /tmp and /var as
(size-restricted)
tmpfs's when you create the image in the first place, what is the problem
with that?

best regards

Torsten
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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Francesco P. Lovergine]

On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:30:49PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> 
> As Jörg stated in his reject mail: "The reason for this decision is the
> license which does not really fit the package.". Not: this license is
> non-free!
> 

Yep, it's like a license which would be BSD-like but claims to be
from Berkeley instead. AFAIK they should adapt a PHP-like license
or any better.

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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Rudi Effe]

Am Dienstag, 4. Oktober 2005 12:41 schrieb Simon Guerrero:
> 1. Make the disk read-only

How about a software application of what many hardware "PC guards" (and 
likewise) do: 

Use unionfs as a layer that you put away at any reboot to obtain the 
original system.

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new source package producing "old" deb's is not regarded as NEW

[Frank Küster]

(Please note the M-F-T -devel)

Hi,

this week I uploaded a new source package, libkpathsea3, that produces
existing binary packages (libkpathsea3, libkpathsea-dev).  I was
surprised to learn that this package was not subject to NEW processing,
but rather was simply treated as any existing package.

In my case the exact purpose of the package was to replace the old
binary packages that were previously produced by tetex-bin.  But it
might as well be that somebody uploads a NEW package that just happens
to produce an existing binary package that they don't know about.

Furthermore, if the name of the source package changed, this might
indicate that there were some upstream changes.  This could include a
new author, project or even license, and might deserve a look by the
ftp-masters.  

What do you think?

Regards, Frank
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Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

[Junichi Uekawa]

Hi,

> I wonder why nobody did implement that feature before. I imagine
> (without knowing much about APT's internals), the pseudocode would look
> like that:
> 
>  - install command gets the list
>  - if the package does not exist in the cache and the given string is a
>file, then:
>- read the metadata of this package
>- creating a virtual sources set containing that package and inject
>  it somewhere in APTs graph representation. The access method
>  would be "file:", and it should get the highest possible priority
>  (at least higher than any seen priority)
>- install the prerequisites and then the package with the usual
>  methods
>fi
> 
> There may be some confusion if some package is really called
> something.deb but AFAICS there is no such package.
> 
> If somebody steps out to implement the feature above, please tell me.
> Otherwise I would try my luck when I get some spare time.

1. 
Just creating a temporary ftp-archive with 
dpkg-scanpackages/scansources, or apt-ftparchive,

2. 
Add them to apt sources.list, and apt-get update
and apt-get install

or

hack
apt:cmdline/apt-get.cc
to get support for doing something without 
contaminating the main sources.list

3. install.


I would really like that for build-dependency solving
with local file (required for pbuilder).
I just haven't had time to sit down and code and debug
and fight with apt internals.

It would be nice if such tool existed.


regards,
junichi


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Re: Build packages for Debian on Ubuntu

[Matt Zimmerman]

On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 07:16:17PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:50:33AM +0200, Mikael Olenfalk wrote:
> > I have built ubuntu-hoary packages for anjuta 2.0.1 for amd64, which I
> > have made available in my repository at: http://mikael.is-a-geek.org/.
> > 
> > I want to build the packages for Debian SID also and now I am
> 
> It would be better to get the new version into Debian properly
> so that all architectures benefit. The current package version
> 1.2.4 is available on amd64 and all other debian arches.

2.0.1 is in Debian experimental.

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Re: Developing a kiosk type system - advice needed

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Simon!
Simon Guerrero schrieb am Dienstag, den 04. Oktober 2005:

> Yes, you're right about suspend2 - I figured if I mount most of the
> filesystems ro, then create the writeable ones each time from static images,
> I shouldn't have issues with corruption - right?

In theory, however some filesystems (ext3) write stuff on the disk
ignoring the ro option.

Oh, and please fix your mail client to respect the References and stop
quoting the whole messages for no reason.

Eduard.

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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 10432 March 1977, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:

> It is cool that you filled the bug report for my package (php4-pear-log) but 
> I've found several more packages which are licensed with PHP License:

> php-auth - 3.0
> php-date - 3.0
> php-db - 3.0
> php-file - 3.0
> php-html-template-it - 2.0
> php-http - 3.0
> php-imlib - 2.0
> php-mail - 2.0
> php-net-checkip - 2.0
> php-net-smtp - 2.0
> php-net-socket - 2.0
> php-services-weather - 2.0
> php-xml-parser - 3.0
> Are you going to report the problem for these packages too?

Whenever such a thing crosses my way, yes.

But now where you compiled the list I dont want to take the glory away
From you, so feel free to do it yourself. :)

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Re: Race condition in /proc/bus/usb + hotplug

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Oct 04, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (2) and (3) above are a hideous race that needs to be fixed.  It probably
> Right: use udev.

Good.

> > could be used to gain limited, but still unauthorized access to mass-storage
> > devices for example (I didn't test).
> How?

1. Wait for user to hotplug USB device

2. Maybe slow down the system to a crawl, easily done in most systems
because almost no one uses CPU limits.  This widens the window quite a lot
because hotplug crawls and eats CPU like a Tron 2.0 resource hog.  Since as
things are we have about a 0.5s window in a reasonably fast machine, this
pass is quite optional and probably not needed.

3. Open raw device file for reading, it is unprotected at this time

4. Do whatever you want with it, it doesn't matter that hotplug will sooner
or later chown/chmod it.  You already have a valid filehandle.

There are some difficulties on implementing this, but it is hardly
impossible.  Still, the current racy setup is so hideous, it should be fixed
on principle alone...

> > In that case, the fix would probably be to get rid of usbfs completely... as
> Done: 2.6.14 will provide /dev/bus/usb/ devices which can be managed
> with udev.

It will be done when we deploy it on Debian and remove the buggy crap we
have right now/apply a workaround for those not using udev/2.6.14.

Are the current udev/hotplug config/agents dealing with USB devices
comprehensive enough that just changing the usbfs mounting to root-only by
default would simply work?

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Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

[Piotr Roszatycki]

> > php-auth - 3.0
> > php-date - 3.0
> > php-db - 3.0
> > php-file - 3.0
> > php-html-template-it - 2.0
> > php-http - 3.0
> > php-imlib - 2.0
> > php-mail - 2.0
> > php-net-checkip - 2.0
> > php-net-smtp - 2.0
> > php-net-socket - 2.0
> > php-services-weather - 2.0
> > php-xml-parser - 3.0
> > Are you going to report the problem for these packages too?
>
> Whenever such a thing crosses my way, yes.
>
> But now where you compiled the list I dont want to take the glory away
> From you, so feel free to do it yourself. :)

I could just clone the original bugreport. What do you think?

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Re: Race condition in /proc/bus/usb + hotplug

[Marco d'Itri]

On Oct 04, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 3. Open raw device file for reading, it is unprotected at this time
It is *always* unprotected, by default. But it (usually) does not
matter, because access is exclusive and the kernel drivers binding to
the device prevent userspace from accessing the pseudo-devices.

> It will be done when we deploy it on Debian and remove the buggy crap we
> have right now/apply a workaround for those not using udev/2.6.14.
It has been this way for years, so it can probably wait a couple of
months more. People who will not upgrade will get what they deserve.

> Are the current udev/hotplug config/agents dealing with USB devices
> comprehensive enough that just changing the usbfs mounting to root-only by
> default would simply work?
You need to ask the maintainers of the packages which use the
/proc/bus/usb/ pseudo-devices, udev and hotplug only provide
infrastructure.

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Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting Vegar Storvann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Vegar Storvann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> * Package name: debinstaller


Isn't the name very close to "debian-installer", the
not-so-well-named-but-now-famous installer for the whole distribution?



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