Re: Testing requirements stalled

2005-07-26 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/26/05, Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:20 -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote:
> > It's been saying that "ncurses is only 3 days old" for the past four
> > days. Any idea what's up?
> 
> Well, ftp-master is down, so the testing scripts (aka britney) do not
> run.

Are such status changes announced somewhere?



Re: Testing requirements stalled

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 09:26]:
> On 7/26/05, Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:20 -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote:
> > > It's been saying that "ncurses is only 3 days old" for the past four
> > > days. Any idea what's up?

> > Well, ftp-master is down, so the testing scripts (aka britney) do not
> > run.
 
> Are such status changes announced somewhere?

debian-devel-announce.


Cheers,
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Re: Testing requirements stalled

2005-07-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-07-26 kello 09:26 +0200, Olaf van der Spek kirjoitti:
> On 7/26/05, Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:20 -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote:
> > > It's been saying that "ncurses is only 3 days old" for the past four
> > > days. Any idea what's up?
> > 
> > Well, ftp-master is down, so the testing scripts (aka britney) do not
> > run.
> 
> Are such status changes announced somewhere?

The fact that ftp-master.d.o is moving has been announced on the list
that all developers are required to read: debian-devel-announce.


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Re: Testing requirements stalled

2005-07-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Lars Wirzenius:

> The fact that ftp-master.d.o is moving has been announced on the list
> that all developers are required to read: debian-devel-announce.

The message announces machine outages, not service outages.  If you
are not intimately familiar with Debian's infrastructure, it's just a
guess that problems you might see are a consequence of the machine
outages.


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Re: The BTS and bug subscriptions

2005-07-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 01:13:04PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote:

> It's trivial to add uids to a GPG key, and headers aren't actually
> signed anyway, so you could replay signed messages to the server.

A global, confirmed "by default subscribe me to all my bugs" might do
the trick, though.

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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
>> normal cron jobs that would have been scheduled to run otherwise, and
>> didn't run because the computer wasn't on.
>
>Will you report a bug or shall I?

How can anacron decide whether it is ok to run a hourly cron job once
or n times, or whether a cron job is only meaningful if it is run at
the right time and does more harm being run at the wrong time than
being missed altogether?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
> >> normal cron jobs that would have been scheduled to run otherwise, and
> >> didn't run because the computer wasn't on.
> >
> >Will you report a bug or shall I?
> 
> How can anacron decide whether it is ok to run a hourly cron job once
> or n times, or whether a cron job is only meaningful if it is run at
> the right time and does more harm being run at the wrong time than
> being missed altogether?

fcron can, but it does not have enough functionality to *replace* cron yet.

I just ask that people don't bother filing a bug, and code it and send me
(and upstream) a patch, instead.

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ITP: gparted - gnome partition editor

2005-07-26 Thread Alexander Fieroch

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

URL: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL

Description:


GParted stands for Gnome Partition Editor.

It uses libparted to detect and manipulate devices and partitiontables 
while several (optional) filesystemtools provide support for filesystems 
not included in libparted.
These optional packages will be detected at runtime and don't require a 
rebuild of GParted.


GParted is written in C++ and uses gtkmm as Graphical Toolkit. The 
general approach is to keep the GUI as simple as possible. That's why i 
try to conform to the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines.


GParted comes under the terms of the General Public License


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Re: Best Buy - Rolex Replicas

2005-07-26 Thread Kalle Tönseth








Test etawatches.com

 

Best regards

 

Kalle

 








Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/26/05, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
> >> normal cron jobs that would have been scheduled to run otherwise, and
> >> didn't run because the computer wasn't on.
> >
> >Will you report a bug or shall I?
> 
> How can anacron decide whether it is ok to run a hourly cron job once
> or n times, or whether a cron job is only meaningful if it is run at
> the right time and does more harm being run at the wrong time than
> being missed altogether?

Isn't it the responsibility of the job itself to check for that (if it
does more harm than good)?
Timing guarantees are rarely given.



Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
>>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
>>> normal cron jobs that would have been scheduled to run otherwise, and
>>> didn't run because the computer wasn't on.
>>
>>Will you report a bug or shall I?
>
> How can anacron decide whether it is ok to run a hourly cron job once
> or n times, or whether a cron job is only meaningful if it is run at
> the right time and does more harm being run at the wrong time than
> being missed altogether?
>
> Greetings
> Marc

A missed cron job should never be run multiple times. If that is realy
needed then the job itself should make sure it is run often enough. I
doubt anything will need that or even get usefull results from running
multiple times. I certainly wouldn't want my mrtg, runs every 5
minutes, to be run 1000 times after boot.

Nothing garanties that cron jobs are run at the right time.  Running
it a bit later (whenever you boot) is just like it being delayed due
to excess load. If there are things that shouldn't be run at the wrong
time we should find them and protect them in the job itself.

I think overall it serves the users more to default to running missed
cronjobs on boot than not. If that causes you problems you can always
purge anarcron or fcron or protect the jobs itself. There might eb
cases where it harms but those should be the minority.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: The BTS and bug subscriptions

2005-07-26 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote:
> This is nice to see.
> 
> IME, as a release manager/bug triager and as a member of package maintenance
> teams, the distributions I want to be able to use for bug mails are:
> 
> - to the submitter and to the maintainer (most common)
> - to the maintainer only


> and IME as a sole maintainer of packages, the distributions I want are:
> 
> - to the submitter only

This is problimatic when a maintainer vanishes or drops a bug half way
through. I'd rather see "to the submitter and the maintainer unless the
maintainer sent the mail", which works in both this case and the one
above.

> - "-quiet"

As implemented this is problimatic for those of us who read
debian-bugs-dist (only in a semi-automated fashion nowadays though). But
"to the maintainer unless the maintainer sent the mail" handles this
case and the second one above.

> as a single destination address on bugs.d.o, and even better if the
> reply-to's on bugs mail were set so that I never had to fiddle with headers
> again when replying to bugs :)

Well, if it's narrowed down to the two cases I've mentioned above, it's
sort oflike doing a list reply vs a personal reply. Although I'm not
sure which maps better to which. Anyway, should be possible to set up
the headers so that works in mail clients.

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SELinux group?

2005-07-26 Thread Isaac Clerencia
Hi, people.

In the last months I've got increasingly interested in SELinux. I know some 
people is working on integrating it in Debian, but quite in an individual 
fashion. I thing it would be great to have a project in Alioth for this, with 
a mailing list and that kind of stuff to try to get proper SELinux in Debian.

Anyone interested?

Best regards

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"at" package unmaintained??

2005-07-26 Thread Mathis Dirksen-Thedens
Hi,
Ryan Murray did not answer my email which I sent some months ago, so I propose
someone helps him with his work and takes over the "at" package. Most of the
bugs are very old, and usernames longer than 8 chars are STILL NOT WORKING,
though http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=101919 says they would.
I tested it and it did NOT work.
This is getting on my nerves, because I have to reinstall my patched "at"
package every time "apt-get upgrade" overwrites it with the old one.
Could please anybody take over and fix the mess?

http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/at
http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/at.html

Greetings from Germany,
Mathis Dirksen-Thedens

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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> Well, you need to remember the 620 reports without any arch info.  95%
>> of them are probalby running i386 as well. :)
> 
> How can this  happen, anyway? PErhaps it would be good to add a option where
> one can send a nickname of the owner and look up the reports by it?

IIRC the version of popularity-contest in woody didn't report the
architecture, so those 620 machines probably haven't updated to sarge yet.

regards,

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problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-26 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this:

porter:~# apt-get install libmotif-dev
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libmotif-dev: Depends: xlibs-dev but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

On dselect, if i mark libmotif-dev to download, i get this unmet dependency:
 *** Req libs zlib1g   compression library - runtime
  ** Opt libdevel zlib1g-dev   compression library - development

Regards
-- Fred



Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> I think overall it serves the users more to default to running missed
> cronjobs on boot than not. If that causes you problems you can always
> purge anarcron or fcron or protect the jobs itself. There might eb
> cases where it harms but those should be the minority.

Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed
by default would mess something up?

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Re: "at" package unmaintained??

2005-07-26 Thread Philipp Kern
[Truncated unnecessary crosspost] 

On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 15:56 +0200, Mathis Dirksen-Thedens wrote:
> Ryan Murray did not answer my email which I sent some months ago, so I propose
> someone helps him with his work and takes over the "at" package. Most of the
> bugs are very old, and usernames longer than 8 chars are STILL NOT WORKING,
> though http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=101919 says they 
> would.
> I tested it and it did NOT work.

I suffered from the same problem with the `at' package. Ryan, could you
consider orphaning it if you lack time for its maintenance? Thus one or
more could adopt it and fix the long list of outstanding bugs without
the need to do NMUs.

> This is getting on my nerves, because I have to reinstall my patched "at"
> package every time "apt-get upgrade" overwrites it with the old one.
> Could please anybody take over and fix the mess?

What about setting your package to `hold' or using an epoch?

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern
Debian Developer


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Bug#320030: ITP: hsffig -- Haskell Binding Auto-Generation Utility

2005-07-26 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: hsffig
  Version : 0.1.2
  Upstream Author : Dimitry Golubovsky, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : darcs get http://www.golubovsky.org/repos/hsffig
* License : BSD
  Description : Haskell Binding Auto-Generation Utility

 The hsffig utility is designed to take a C include file (.h) for
 a ilbrary and generate a Haskell module (or collection of modules)
 containing FFI bindings for the library.  It needs no configuration
 files or manually-written wrappers.

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Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11.10
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)


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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer

Graham Wilson wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:



There might eb
cases where it harms but those should be the minority.



Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed
by default would mess something up?


I would not like to have it on 7/24 servers. There could be problems 
after longer power outages in combination with weak scripts (which use 
dates as file names). But this "should be the minority". And such logic 
will even have problems without anacron.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Graham Wilson wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>>>There might eb
>>>cases where it harms but those should be the minority.
>
>> Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed
>> by default would mess something up?
>
> I would not like to have it on 7/24 servers. There could be problems
> after longer power outages in combination with weak scripts (which use
> dates as file names). But this "should be the minority". And such
> logic will even have problems without anacron.
>
> Helmut Wollmersdorfer

How will that be a problem? They will run once at (shortly after)
bootup and end up with a slightly wrong date in the filename.

If you only include the week in the name a simple if [ -e log.$WEEK ];
then exit 1; fi will protect against running twice in one week. If
overwriting the log on the next scheduled run is a problem use that.

Certainly no debian package should be vulnerable to this.

MfG
Goswin



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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



I would not like to have it on 7/24 servers. There could be problems
after longer power outages in combination with weak scripts (which use
dates as file names). But this "should be the minority". And such
logic will even have problems without anacron.



How will that be a problem? They will run once at (shortly after)
bootup and end up with a slightly wrong date in the filename.


A real example: A large organisation names the daily logs (each 1-2 GB) 
of some servers by date. They exactly contain records from 0:00 to 
24:00. After transfer to a dedicated server a cron job uses 'date 
--date=yesterday' and 'find' to start an analyzing script. anacron 
cannot solve this, but it will not damage something (just result in some 
error messages, and/or unnecessary CPU hours in worst case). To make 
this anacron-proof would need complex bookkeeping and exception handling.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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MIT krb5 vs. Heimdal for curl's GSSAPI support (Re: Who needs libcurl3?)

2005-07-26 Thread Domenico Andreoli
[ CCing curl-library ml ]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 12:12:03PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > unfortunately heimdal bug #316980 makes curl FTBS :(
> 
> :-/ Can you use MIT krb5 instead?

sure :)

i'm not a kerberos guru, i never used it and probably i will never be
interested in it. i added this package only after a debian user asked
for GSSAPI support in curl (FYI bug #241553).

anybody knows if curl will modify its behaviour switching to MIT krb5?

cheers
domenico

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Bug#320045: ITP: k9copy -- Kde frontend for vamps that allow the copy of one or more titles from a DVD9 to a DVD5

2005-07-26 Thread Moratti Claudio
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Moratti Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: k9copy
  Version : 0.3
  Upstream Author : Jean-Michel PETIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://k9copy.free.fr/
* License : GPL
  Description : Kde frontend for vamps that allow the copy of one or more 
titles from a DVD9 to a DVD5

The Package is built for Sarge, due some problems with pbuilder on Etch
and Sid...

http://spirit.knio.it/~maxer/deb/sarge/


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Bug#320044: ITP: libforms-java -- framework helping you lay out and implement elegant Swing panels quickly and consistently

2005-07-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Eric Lavarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: libforms-java
  Version : 1.0.5
  Upstream Author : Karsten Lentzsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : https://forms.dev.java.net/
* License : BSD
  Description : framework helping you lay out and implement elegant Swing 
panels quickly and consistently

 The FormLayout has been designed to be powerful, flexible, precise and
 easy to learn and understand. It can significantly reduce the time to
 describe a form and to fill it with components. The layout manager
 introduces a unique layout feature: it honors the screen resolution and
 dialog font size to retain the layout proportions in different
 environments.
 .
 Also, we have seperated the layout task from the panel construction.
 Therefore we provide a set of non-visual builders that assist you in
 defining common panel layouts and in filling a form with components.
 The JGoodies Forms ships with general purpose builders and builders for
 specialized layout tasks. For example, the DefaultFormBuilder helps you
 build forms with one, two, three, or four columns. The ButtonBarBuilder
 specializes in building button bars.
 .
 On top of these non-visual builders the JGoodies Forms provides
 factories that create the most frequently used layouts, panels, bars
 and stacks. We recommend to use the factory methods whenever possible;
 future releases may map a logical panel creation to a concrete creation
 method that honors the platform and look&feel, for example the Mac vs.
 Windows button bar layout, where Mac has the default button in the
 right hand side and Windows in the left. 
 .
 Alternative URL: http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/forms/

(and the main interest for me is that it's a dependency for FreeMind
0.8.0)
The good news is that the library compiles with free java tools (already
succeeded with free-java-sdk).

Cheers, Eric

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Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Greenland


> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
> >>> normal cron jobs that would have been scheduled to run otherwise, and
> >>> didn't run because the computer wasn't on.
> >>
> >>Will you report a bug or shall I?

Note that by running only cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}, anacron is
not forced to parse crontabs, worry about permissions, change users,
etc. etc. etc. All it has to do is run scripts.It's not a bug, it's a
significant design choice.

Perhaps popcon should create an @boot job as well as daily. The @boot
job could check "have I run yet today", and then DTRT.

Steve

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Bug#101919: "at" package unmaintained??

2005-07-26 Thread Martin Samuelsson
Mathis Dirksen-Thedens @ 2005-07-26 (Tuesday), 15:56 (+0200)
> Hi,
> Ryan Murray did not answer my email which I sent some months ago, so I propose
> someone helps him with his work and takes over the "at" package. Most of the
> bugs are very old, and usernames longer than 8 chars are STILL NOT WORKING,
> though http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=101919 says they 
> would.
> I tested it and it did NOT work.
> This is getting on my nerves, because I have to reinstall my patched "at"
> package every time "apt-get upgrade" overwrites it with the old one.
> Could please anybody take over and fix the mess?
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/at
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/at.html
> 
> Greetings from Germany,
>   Mathis Dirksen-Thedens

It's been a fair while since I reported #101919. That's for sure. For me
though, that was the last time I encountered it. Simply because I havn't
had user names longer than eight chars since then.

Given what you write, I take it that it still does not work with
3.1.8-11 and that's a shame!

Could you please provide some more information on your patched version?
And DO keep the bug Cc:ed at all times when contributing new information
on a bug. That's really the only way to make anyone else but the
maintainer able to help out.

I find nothing about pathes in the mail log for #101919, but a quick
glance at the others suggests at least two patches to fix the problem.
Is one of them to be prefered over the other(s)?
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Xorg packages

2005-07-26 Thread Mark Sutton
It seems most of the 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 packages,
while listed in Packages are not in the pool.
Well not on mirrors.kernel.org anyway.

Is there a better/more up to date mirror?


Thanks, mark


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Re: Xorg packages

2005-07-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Sutton:

> It seems most of the 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 packages,
> while listed in Packages are not in the pool.
> Well not on mirrors.kernel.org anyway.
>
> Is there a better/more up to date mirror?

This is probably yet another result of the ftp-master outage.  There
are reports the machine was shutdown while some mirrors were
downloading data.


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Re: Xorg packages

2005-07-26 Thread John Lightsey
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 11:36 -0700, Mark Sutton wrote:
> It seems most of the 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 packages,
> while listed in Packages are not in the pool.
> Well not on mirrors.kernel.org anyway.
> 
> Is there a better/more up to date mirror?
> 

ftp.debian.org has all of the Xorg packages.

John


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Packages descriptions review

2005-07-26 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello,

Following the recent discussion about packages descriptions (see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/07/msg01074.html and later),
and based on Lars Wirzenius' idea, I started working on preparing a
general review of all package descriptions.

This of course represents quite a large amount of work, and the more
people are helping, the faster and better it will be carried out !

A web page has been set up on the Debian wiki :
http://wiki.debian.net/?PackagesDescriptionsReview

If you would like to help, please add yourself on this page (and maybe
drop me a mail).

As explained on the wiki page, a web interface has been created to
centralize all reviews. It is now working (though it still needs
improvement and reporting capabilities) and available at
http://zorglub.diwi.org/pkg-descriptions 
Please play with it and report any problem / requests you might have
before we start the actual work.

The wiki page currently lists a number of traditional problems of the
descriptions that reviewers should be aware of. Feel free to complete or
improve this list. I tried to sum up the discussion about the technical
details and not make it too controversial, if you think more discussion
is needed, please do it on the list, not on the wiki.

Thanks for your help (well, I hope so),

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Re: "at" package unmaintained??

2005-07-26 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:56:26PM +0200, Mathis Dirksen-Thedens wrote:
> Hi,
> Ryan Murray did not answer my email which I sent some months ago, so I propose
> someone helps him with his work and takes over the "at" package. Most of the
> bugs are very old, and usernames longer than 8 chars are STILL NOT WORKING,
> though http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=101919 says they 
> would.
> I tested it and it did NOT work.
> This is getting on my nerves, because I have to reinstall my patched "at"
> package every time "apt-get upgrade" overwrites it with the old one.
> Could please anybody take over and fix the mess?
Hi Mathis,
are you familar with dpkg-divert? It will not fix Debian 'at' but you can use
it to stop the Debian 'at' upgrades from overwriting your patched 'at'.

Cheers,
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Bug#320067: ITP: vamps -- Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing the embedded elementary video stream.

2005-07-26 Thread Moratti Claudio
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Moratti Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: vamps
  Version : 0.97
  Upstream Author : vamps admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/vamps/
* License : GPL
  Description : Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams by 
selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing the 
embedded elementary video stream.

I've to contact 'vamps admin' in order to have his real name, to fix a
'bug' in debian/copyright file!

Manpages are mist (I've to write them).

The Package is built for Sarge, due some problems with pbuilder on Etch
and Sid...

http://spirit.knio.it/~maxer/deb/sarge/

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12.1-maxer
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)


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Quick question about your site.

2005-07-26 Thread Data Transfer HQ
Hi,

I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think
your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of data transfer
and would be a great resource for my visitors.

In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Data Transfer Resource 
Directory at 
http://www.datatransferhq.com under 
http://www.datatransferhq.com/whatisdatasecurity

Is that OK with you?

Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
appreciate you returning the favor.

I have created a list of all the sites i've visited but if you have recieved 
this
email in error then please let me know and i will remove you from my list and 
apologies
for any inconvenience this has caused.

Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
this.

Best wishes,

Steve

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P.S. if you do want to link back, there's some suggested code to use at
http://www.datatransferhq.com/links/addlink.html//

Re: Bug#320067: ITP: vamps -- Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing the embedded elementary video stream.

2005-07-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-07-26 kello 21:36 +0200, Moratti Claudio kirjoitti:
>   Description : Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams 
> by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing 
> the embedded elementary video stream.

This short description is a bit long and it also leaves it unclear to me
what the program actually does. The verb evaporate means, according the
WordNet dictionary:

v 1: lose or cause to lose liquid by vaporization leaving a more
 concentrated residue; "evaporate milk" syn: vaporize,
  vaporise
2: cause to change into a vapor; "The chemist evaporated the
   water" syn: vaporise
3: change into a vapor; "The water evaporated in front of our
   eyes" syn: vaporise

At a guess, does vamps make MPEG2 streams smaller?


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A quick question about your website...

2005-07-26 Thread Inkjet Cartridges HQ
Hi,

I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think
your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of inkjet 
cartridges
and would be a great resource for my visitors.

In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Inkjet Cartridges Resource 
Directory at 
http://www.inkjetcartridges-hq.com under http://www.inkjetcartridges-hq.com/

Is that OK with you?

Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
appreciate you returning the favor.

I have created a list of all the sites i've visited but if you have recieved 
this
email in error then please let me know and i will remove you from my list and 
apologies
for any inconvenience this has caused.

Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
this.

Best wishes,

Andy

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Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-26 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Clément Stenac wrote:

> As explained on the wiki page, a web interface has been created to
> centralize all reviews. It is now working (though it still needs
> improvement and reporting capabilities) and available at
> http://zorglub.diwi.org/pkg-descriptions 
> Please play with it and report any problem / requests you might have
> before we start the actual work.

I notice a few things:

1) It seems that only two people can comment on an entry. If I see a
problem that two other people have missed, I can't point it out.

2) It looks like I can edit other people's observations, possibly by
accident (by hitting submit after them). Fix (1) and this should go
away, too.

3) It doesn't look like there is a way to comment on the "current
proposal", only on the original description (and only for two people;
see above).

4) I notice tags are part of the description shown. Do you intend to
review the tags as well? This should be clarified on the wiki. If the
answer is "yes", a link to tags documentation needs to be added.

5) The things to look for needs some work. For example, it needs
something like "description fails to show how the package fits in with
related pacakges" (e.g., foo-pgsql vs. foo-mysql. Or many others)

PS: Having "Improper english" as a thing to look out for on the Wiki
page was rather bad looking. Fixed. Same with the incomplete list at the
top.


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Re: Bug#320067: ITP: vamps -- Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing the embedded elementary video stream.

2005-07-26 Thread MaXeR
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 23:09, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> ti, 2005-07-26 kello 21:36 +0200, Moratti Claudio kirjoitti:
> >   Description : Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams
> > by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing
> > the embedded elementary video stream.
>
> This short description is a bit long and it also leaves it unclear to me
> what the program actually does. 
Right! I'm wrong =(
vamps allow you to reduce the size of MPEG2 streams...
It could be used for making a backup of video-Dvd.

This program is not clean documented, but it is nedded by k9copy (I sent 
another ITP this evening).

> The verb evaporate means, according the 
> WordNet dictionary:
>
> v 1: lose or cause to lose liquid by vaporization leaving a more
[cut]
>eyes" syn: vaporise
>
> At a guess, does vamps make MPEG2 streams smaller?
yes! vamps do that!

A new Description could be:
Vamps is a tools for recompress and modify the structure of a DVD
or
Vamps permits the backup of DVD (or MPEG2 streams)

putting more details in the long description...

cheers,
Claudio 


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Re: MIT krb5 vs. Heimdal for curl's GSSAPI support (Re: Who needs libcurl3?)

2005-07-26 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i'm not a kerberos guru, i never used it and probably i will never be
> interested in it. i added this package only after a debian user asked
> for GSSAPI support in curl (FYI bug #241553).

Got it. :-)

> anybody knows if curl will modify its behaviour switching to MIT krb5?

It oughtn't, though it looks like you need to edit debian/rules in
addition to debian/control:

diff -u curl-7.14.0/debian/control curl-7.14.0/debian/control
--- curl-7.14.0/debian/control
+++ curl-7.14.0/debian/control
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Uploaders: Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 3.0.0), autotools-dev, binutils (>= 2.14.90.0.7), 
libssl-dev, zlib1g-dev, stunnel, heimdal-dev [!hurd-i386], libidn11-dev, 
groff-base, libdb4.2-dev
+Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 3.0.0), autotools-dev, binutils (>= 2.14.90.0.7), 
libssl-dev, zlib1g-dev, stunnel, libkrb5-dev [!hurd-i386], libidn11-dev, 
groff-base, libdb4.2-dev
 Standards-Version: 3.6.1
 
 Package: curl
diff -u curl-7.14.0/debian/rules curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
--- curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
+++ curl-7.14.0/debian/rules
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
 
 ifeq (${DO_GSSAPI},yes)
mkdir -p debian/build-gssapi
-   cd debian/build-gssapi && ../../configure ${CONFIGURE_ARGS} 
--with-gssapi-includes=/usr/include --with-gssapi-libs=/usr/lib
+   cd debian/build-gssapi && ../../configure ${CONFIGURE_ARGS} 
--with-gssapi=/usr
 endif

touch configure-stamp


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Re: Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-07-26 Thread p
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 03:05:03AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I am pleased to announce the availability of my new (English) book
> "The Debian System", which Open Source Press[0] introduced at the
> Linuxtag 2005. 

__deletia__

> -- 
>  .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : :'  :proud Debian developer and author: http://debianbook.info
> `. `'`
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

//

mr. krafft:

i will never forget your genorisity in helping 
me, in rich detail,  with  an ethernet issue i 
posted on this list many years ago. therefore,
i look forward  to  buying  your  new book and 
proudly adding it to my linux library.  

congratulations!

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ITA: lincvs -- graphical CVS frontend

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Fester

Hi Frank,


I don't really use this program anymore and want to concentrate on other
Debian work, so offering this for adoption.
Since it is non-free (due to some dubios license extensions) I will


As far as I understand the non-XXL-Version (1.4.x) *is* GPLed and
therefore free.
I just saw that the current version 1.4.2 is indeed in non-free (never
thought about this before), but as I remember from some postings on the
mailing list upstream always told everyone that 1.4.x is under the GPL.
This needs to be clarified, of course.


ask for it's removal in a few months if nobody wants it.


That would be really sad since I use it regularly, as it is
a really nice tool. Would you still be able to sponsor me
if this ends with me maintaining the package?

Regards,

Andreas

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Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-26 Thread Clément Stenac
-qa crosspost removed

> 1) It seems that only two people can comment on an entry. If I see a
> problem that two other people have missed, I can't point it out.
Agreed. I'm going to add a freetext field in the packages detail page
for additional comments and a flag on the list page indicating whether
more comments are available.

> 2) It looks like I can edit other people's observations, possibly by
> accident (by hitting submit after them). Fix (1) and this should go
> away, too.
I didn't actually want to bother setting up a real rights system, and I
think we can trust the few people that will help not to be abusive. As
for the accident, yes, that's a possible risk, the best solution is to
carefully coordinate the work through the wiki. I don't expect dozens of
people anyway :)

I also added a few safeguards: reviewers must be different, you can't
fill review2 if review1 isn't filled.

> 3) It doesn't look like there is a way to comment on the "current
> proposal", only on the original description (and only for two people;
> see above).
Ok, I'll add that

> 4) I notice tags are part of the description shown. Do you intend to
> review the tags as well? This should be clarified on the wiki. If the
> answer is "yes", a link to tags documentation needs to be added.
This was actually a side effect of the filling script. I had thought it
might be a good idea to review tags at the same time, but I think it's
too early for a tags review. The maintainers haven't had a chance to tag
their packages themselves.

> 5) The things to look for needs some work. For example, it needs
> something like "description fails to show how the package fits in with
> related pacakges" (e.g., foo-pgsql vs. foo-mysql. Or many others)
Fixed, feel free to edit.

> PS: Having "Improper english" as a thing to look out for on the Wiki
> page was rather bad looking. Fixed. Same with the incomplete list at the
> top.
Hehe, that's why I said native english speakers would be greatly appreciated 
and why 
several people should review the texts.

Thanks for your feedback,

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