Re: raidtools2 -> mdadm change: woes and problems

[Martin Michlmayr]

* Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-21 14:44]:
> Are there any kind of documents describing how to move from raidtools
> safely to mdadm without loosing a raid?

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-mdadm

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Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

[Bastian Blank]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 07:01:06AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> lvm2 is supposed to be very much improved with read/write snapshots.
> (compared to lvm1 which only had read-only snapshots. Correct me 
> if I'm wrong)

If you do not use linux 2.6.10, yes.

> Is it stable enough?

Except the usual kernel bugs und my broken upload yesterday, yes.

Bastian

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Re: raidtools2 -> mdadm change: woes and problems

[Clemens Schwaighofer]

On 06/21/2005 04:34 PM, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-21 14:44]:
> 
>>Are there any kind of documents describing how to move from raidtools
>>safely to mdadm without loosing a raid?
> 
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-mdadm

thanks for the link


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Re: TODO for etch ?

[Helmut Wollmersdorfer]

Andrew Suffield wrote:


Under *no circumstances* should adjtimex be used at the same time as
ntpd. The clock will jitter all over the place because they won't
agree and will keep slewing it in opposition to each other.


That's very true - I experienced this.

Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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Bug#315223: O: mird1 -- optional

[Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)]

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I want to ask for removing mird1 & mird-dev from debian archive. I belive that 
noone uses these packages this days because of better solutions (sqlite for
example). Any package is depended from these two. Package is in quite bad 
conditions and moreover last upstream version is from 2001 and development 
is dropped.


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Re: Debian concordance

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Dom, 2005-06-19 às 16:22 +0100, Scott James Remnant escreveu:
> A definitive example would be the (eventually abandoned) attempt by
> Ximian to provide debs for Helix GNOME.

I was working in a GNOME2 backport back then, IIRC. I remember the Helix
GNOME debs were simply low quality, with non-sensical, almost bizarre in
some cases, Depends.

Nevertheless, they would install pretty well on a stable system and with
some difficulty and manual intervention to fix conflicts in unstable, at
the time.

See ya,

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Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Dom, 2005-06-19 às 17:57 +0900, Junichi Uekawa escreveu:
> # install-remove check
> dpkg -i /tmp/buildd/*.deb
> dpkg --remove $PKGNAMES

The problem with this kind of tests is that many packages build
conflicting packages. For example glade source package creates 'glade'
and 'glade-gnome' which are mutually exclusive.

There's also the 'replacing package' test when you're renaming packages
and providing a simple dummy transitional one. Those are important to
test but the above code will simply bail out on most cases.

I believe we're going to have some standardized control file teaching
the scripts what and how to test.

See ya,

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Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> The notion that we would be infringing their trademark by failing to remove
> strings that they put in is ludicrous.  It's equivalent to Ford demanding
> that I remove all the Ford logos before selling my truck.

Eric Dorland writes:
> Your analogy is flawed. My ford is still a ford if however I try
> to pass off my completely rebuilt car and tried to pass it off as
> ford.

If I put a NAPA water pump in my Ford I am not required to remove the Ford
logos before selling it.
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need bmp/jpeg/ppm/pmp to wsq/nist2000 file format changer.

[Golam Mustafa]

We are working for a finger print validation system.
We want to work on the work done by NIST.
But we need bmp/jpeg/ppm/pmp to wsq/nist2000 file format changer.
We want to use cwsq,mindtct,bozoth3 program and working to make a gui.

any help will be boosting for us.. 
we are hanging this point.

with regards
mustafa
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Re: TODO for etch ?

[Darren Salt]

I demand that Andrew Suffield may or may not have written...

> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 07:22:08PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
>> I demand that Florian Weimer may or may not have written...
>>> * Olaf van der Spek:
> You should set the clock using NTP *before* starting any daemons. Most
> daemons don't use monotonic clocks (I'm not even sure if Linux supports
> them at the required level), and some of them fail in strange ways if
> the system clock warps.
 Doesn't Linux or NTP support gradually changing the clock exactly to
 avoid such warps?
>>> Gradually skewing the clock doesn't exactly work that well if the offset
>>> exceeds a few minutes.  You don't want to run with a wrong clock for
>>> hours or even days.
>> Maybe ntp, ntpdate etc. should recommend adjtimex?

> adjtimex is pretty near useless and should not be used. It can make things
> worse rather than better, especially with the clocks in modern boxes (which
> are grossly inaccurate).

I find that it improves matters.

> Under *no circumstances* should adjtimex be used at the same time as ntpd.

That's not a problem here - ntpdate is run regularly, and I don't have a
permanent net connection so (AIUI) ntpd isn't really practical here, and I
don't run it.

> The clock will jitter all over the place because they won't agree and will
> keep slewing it in opposition to each other.

(There's a hint of 'adjtimex is a daemon' about that, but let's ignore that.)

If altering the kernel's system clock rate variables while ntpd is running is
the cause of the problem which you mention, then perhaps it's worth
mentioning that in the ntpd and adjtimex man pages. I don't see that altering
them without a running ntpd should cause a problem (so long as the values
used are good), even if ntpd is then started.

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bmp/ppm/jpeg/pbm to wsq/nist2000 file format changer

[Mustafa Golam]

We are working for a finger print validation 
system.
We have taken NFIS as our base.
We need some bmp/ppm/jpeg/pbm to wsq/nist2000 file 
format changer.
any link or Free program will be quit help 
full.
any doc to converter program or specification of 
wsq/nist 2000 file fomat and  other image format.
with regards,
mustafa
 
 
eee.buet
 
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Bug#315292: ITP: monarch -- web-based configuration system for Nagios

[Alec Berryman]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alec Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  Package name: monarch
  Version : 0.94e
  Upstream Author : GroundWork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  URL : http://itgroundwork.com/products/gwm-architect.html
  License : GPL
  Description : web-based configuration system for Nagios

The Groundwork Monitor Architect is a web-based Nagios configuration 
utility which abstracts the user from the actual configuration files.  
It features a system of templates which allows the user to quickly set 
up and alter a large number of hosts at once.  The configuration is 
stored in a database and only written to a Nagios-compatible version 
after it has been tested.  When the configuration is made, the previous 
is automatically saved as a backup.

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Bug#315298: ITP: yaird -- Yet Another mkInitRD

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: yaird
  Version : 0.0.9
  Upstream Author : Erik van Konijnenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.xs4all.nl/~ekonijn/yaird/
* License : GPL
  Description : Yet Another mkInitRD

 YAIRD is a sysfs-based initrd builder.  It determines which modules
 to load based on the same algorithms as hotplug.  Unlike Debian's
 stock initrd-tools, the kernel being booted need not support the
 now-deprecated devfs.
 .
 This version builds the newer cpio format initrds, even though the
 stock Debian configuration uses the older format.  Thus, having
 cramfs compiled into the kernel is not necessary.  YAIRD supports
 only kernel 2.6.


I am in good dialogue already with upstream about the Debian packaging.


 - Jonas

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Re: Bug#315104: ITP: schroot -- Execute commands in a chroot environment

[Roger Leigh]

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Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Upstream Author : Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/schroot/
> * License : GPL

> The above URL is temporary.  It should shortly be moved from a local
> Arch repository to buildd-tools CVS on Alioth.  sbuild will use it
> in the future to allow a "true-chroot" mode for apt-get/dpkg.

schroot is maintained by the Debian buildd-tools project.  It was
downloaded from
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/buildd-tools
(module "schroot").  Full instructions are available here:
https://alioth.debian.org/scm/?group_id=30471


Regards,
Roger

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Lintian tar error outdated?

[Roger Leigh]

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E: schroot source: source-tar-is-posix-tar schroot_0.1.1.orig.tar.gz
N:
N:   The source tar archive of this package is made with tar --posix. This
N:   tar format is actually not understood by woody's tar.
N:
N:   Some automake 1.7 and 1.8 versions in Debian had this wrong tar option
N:   for a short time, re-autobuilding should solve this. Please see
N:   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/debian-devel-200404/msg01376
N:   .html and
N:   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/debian-devel-200404/msg01586
N:   .html for more details.

I've been deliberately using POSIX PAX tar format for quite a while
now (over a year) using automake's "tar-pax" feature, and a
custom-patched automake prior to that.  It's required for long
pathnames, a real problem with Doxygen, for example.  Now sarge has
been released, is it OK to use newer tar formats?


Regards,
Roger

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Why is PTS complaining about the new standards version?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

The PTS page [0] for toshset, a package I just adopted, show this:

"The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian
Policy (Standards-Version 3.6.1 instead of 3.6.2)."

Since version 3.6.2 of the Debian Policy was just released, Anibal (my
sponsor) had me update the package to reflect the new version prior to
uploading.  Is the PTS just not caught up yet?

-Roberto

[0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/toshset.html

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Re: Why is PTS complaining about the new standards version?

[Jeroen van Wolffelaar]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:42:12PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> The PTS page [0] for toshset, a package I just adopted, show this:
> 
> "The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian
> Policy (Standards-Version 3.6.1 instead of 3.6.2)."
> 
> Since version 3.6.2 of the Debian Policy was just released, Anibal (my
> sponsor) had me update the package to reflect the new version prior to
> uploading.  Is the PTS just not caught up yet?

Yeah, indeed. Should be fixed in about 12 hours from now, when all
pages have updated.

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KDE apps up for adoption

[Ben Burton]

Hi all,

Since my spare time is not what it used to be, I have put a few KDE apps
up for adoption this morning:

  kdbg (#315336) -- graphical debugger interface
  kprof (#315337) -- visual tool to help analyse profiling results
  kbear (#315340) -- graphical ftp client for KDE

If anyone is willing to take these up it would be appreciated.  More
detailed notes on each package are included below.

Ben.


kdbg:

  This KDE package is relatively straightforward to maintain, and
  upstream is active.

kprof:

  This KDE package is small and relatively straightforward to maintain.
  Although upstream is not nearly as active as it used to be, the
  package itself remains useful.

  An ability to dive into Qt/KDE code and fix it is preferable, since
  (due to upstream's inactivity) you will need to do bugfixing yourself.

kbear:

  This KDE package is not easy to maintain, mainly because upstream has
  been silent for some time and there have been some rather nasty and
  hard-to-find bugs that needed fixing.  Nevertheless, people still use
  this package so it would be nice to have someone look after it.

  You will need a good understanding of Qt/KDE programming, since you'll
  probably end up doing all the bugfixing yourself and the code is
  somewhat complex.

  The version currently in debian is 2.1.1.  Upstream released 3.0alpha
  a couple of years ago, but I chose not to upload an alpha release.
  I'd also recommend against uploading 3.0alpha to the new maintainer
  without some very thorough testing and inspection, since all signs
  suggest that a beta/final release is never likely to appear.


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Bug#53121: hostname

[Bernd Eckenfels]

Hello,

the  problem here is that a few programs dont fall-back to  use
hostname/domainname correctly. (i.e. gethostname() and  look it up if fqdn
is  needed).

I think you just can file the bug against every package which does not do
that. However keep in mind that most daemons running in production mode will
use any  sombolic name which is different from FQDN and therefore hand
configured.

See the man page for "hostname" describing the methods to get those names.

Gruss
Bernd
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Bug#315349: ITP: rote -- a simple C library for VT102 terminal emulation

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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* Package name: rote
  Version : 0.2.6
  Upstream Author : Bruno Takahashi C. de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://rote.sourceforge.net/
* License : LGPL
  Description : a simple C library for VT102 terminal emulation

 ROTE is a simple C library for VT102 terminal emulation. It allows the
 programmer to set up virtual 'screens' and send them data. The virtual
 screens will emulate the behavior of a VT102 terminal, interpreting escape
 sequences, control characters and such. The library supports ncurses as
 well so that you may render the virtual screen to the real screen when you
 need to.
 
 Homepage: http://rote.sourceforge.net/


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Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:51:57 +1000, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Saturday 18 June 2005 01:07, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I perfectly understand what SMTP is, and I perfectly *don't*
>> understand why having a 30 minutes delay or even a 2 or 3 hours
>> delay in some conditions is tolerable.

Well, admittedly, I greylist just my mail, so this is
 different. But I don't read/answer mail  immediately anyway (unless
 you are paying my paycheck, and those don't get greylisted either),
 so people have to get used to email to me not being answered until I
 get around to reading it -- which may be days, at times.

> Why is it tolerable to receive 200 spams in a day?  On a bad day I
> will receive over 100 spams even though I use most of the anti-spam
> measures that some people in this discussion don't like.

It is not. I get about 7-10 a week, out of a daily email
 volume of 800-1000 emails. And I used to check every mail registered
 as Spam until 6 months ago, and now do random spot checks when I have
 time -- and the last false positive I had was last October.

I don't use RBL based blocking. I do use CRM114 in conjunction
 with spamassassin witrh bayes,  and I use greylisting on messages
 likely to be Spam.

CRM114 did need a while to get trained right, though. But one
 does not need to accept swaths of collateral damage in order to
 reduce Spam volumes, in my experience.

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