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Re: new cogito package, OpenSSL license issue resolved

2005-05-15 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 08:19:38AM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> > > This is the last issue I know of keeping this package out of the Debian
> > > archives.  Yay!  There's still the manpage issue, but I expect it will
> > > be resolved upstream in the next few days.
> > 
> > Any chance you can make the package use the included assemly sha1
> > implementation on powerpc?  It's a notable difference and with that
> > change I could switch from self-compiled cognito to the package.
> 
> 
> I've updated my Cogito source package (0.10+20050513-3) to use the
> ppc-sha1 on powerpc, but I dont have a powerpc machine to compile on,
> so I haven't tested it.  It still uses mozilla-sha1 on all the other
> architectures.

Works just fine.


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Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 11:07:36AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2005 12:30:21 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Completely MIA maintainers are one part of the problem.
> > 
> > But then there's the class of maintainers who manage to upload a new 
> > upstream version and perhaps fix some RC bugs every few months but are 
> > not able to properly handle all bugs in their packages.
> 
> 
> In part this is a consequence of scarce manpower.  In part it is a
> consequence of the institution of package ownership and other
> organisational flaws. If you agree with this diagnosis then I am curious
> to know which of the following you plan to do.
> 
> 1. continue to participate in the Debian project despite its
>dysfunctional organisation;
> 2. push for changes to the organisation;
> 3. participate in another project instead.
> 
> (There are other possibilities, of course.)

Some years ago the only choice for me was 1) since 2) was not possible 
for an average Debian maintainer.

I was glad to hear if this had changed since I left.

> Thomas Hood

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Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:33:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:10:10AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
> > Steve Langasek schrieb:
> > >>If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer (> 2.6.8) kernel, why
> > >>not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues
> > >>with it, that weren't in 2.2.x? Some people might certainly like the
> > >>agressive mode support, or 2.3.1's NAT-T fixes. Personally, 2.2.x is
> > >>fine for me though --- anything but 2.1.x for me :-)
> > Mainly because 2.3.x causes other openswan boxes to crash in some
> > (reproducable) cases - that's a pretty bad regression from 2.2.0 and I
> > keep bugging upstream with it for at least 3 months. No fix until now,
> > so we can't wait until it will be fixed. I would vote for 2.2.0-4. (or
> > even 2.2.0-5).
> 
> > > Because 2.2.3 is no longer in the archive, and resurrecting new binaries 
> > > via
> > > t-p-u gives us even less than the usual protection against breakage caused
> > > by a lack of testing. :/
> > Does that mean that the only way to get the known stable 2.2.0-x back
> > into testing is an upload to unstable with an epoch? I really wouldn't
> > like to go that route if I can avoid it
> 
> Well, AFAIK openswan has never actually been in testing /before/, so it's
> not a matter of getting it /back/; but yes, the upshot is that I'm not
> comfortable adding packages to testing via t-p-u.

That's wrong, openswan was in testing earlier this year. Read e.g. [1].

> Steve Langasek

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[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/01/msg00181.html

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Bug#309241: ITP: dguitar -- Guitar Pro 3/4 tabs viewer and player

2005-05-15 Thread Grzegorz Bizon
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Grzegorz Bizon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

* Package name: dguitar
  Version : 0.4.2
  Upstream Author : Mauricio Gracia Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://dguitar.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : Guitar Pro 3/4 tabs viewer and player

 DGuitar is a Guitar Pro (*.GP4,*.GP3,GTP) tabs viewer and
 player written in java.
 .
 Homepage - http://dguitar.sourceforge.net

- -- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11.7
Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL (charmap=ISO-8859-2)

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Bug#309237: ITP: libkbanking -- KDE bindings for AqBanking

2005-05-15 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: libkbanking
  Version : 0.9.9
  Upstream Author : Martin Preuss<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/aqbanking/
* License : GPL
  Description : KDE bindings for AqBanking

AqBanking provides a middle layer between the applications and online
banking libraries implementing various file formats and protocols.
This package provides the KDE bindings and is used by packages such as
kmymoney2.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (charmap=ISO-8859-1)


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Re: adduser: what is the difference between --disabled-password and--disabled-login

2005-05-15 Thread Brian May
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> It does, if you use the authorization checks in PAM.  If
Steve> you only use the authentication checks, then PAM is only
Steve> going to authenticate the user -- not check whether they're
Steve> allowed access.

When you say "authorization checks" vs "authentication checks" what do
you mean?

PAM has the following sections "auth", "account", "password",
"session". All of these are configured by default on Debian. The
implication I got when reading Marc's post (or did I read too much
into it?) is if ssh is configured to use PAM and if you use RSA based
authentication, it won't detect if the account is locked.

I fail to see where terms like "authorization" and "authentication"
fit into its configuration scheme.

If I did misread Marc's post, and pam_unix does the right thing, this
doesn't excuse pam_ldap for not doing the right thing either (as shown
in my test results I already posted).

Steve> This leaks information to attackers about the state of the
Steve> account.

Only if the attackers are able to successfully authenticate as you. If
they can authenticate as you, then security is potentially lost
anyway, right? ...unless the solution to the error is to update the
password, but in that case leaking the information doesn't have any
downside.

Perhaps the only exception I can think of is if the account is locked
due to "too many login attempts" as opposed to "password expired" or
"account has expired" or some other predictable reason. Then, yes,
that would be a problem.
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Re: Against which package should this go?

2005-05-15 Thread Brian May
> "Bernd" == Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bernd> I think it is a good idea. Even if we dont move to a web
Bernd> based system there is no harm to support us web browser
Bernd> users a bit :)

Bernd> And consider especially the end-user.

Also consider forwarding bugs to upstream, etc. They may not
understand our BTS system, or how to access the full details of the
bug.

I often mention the URL by entering it manually, but this is
potentially error prone (one day I suspect I will end up accidently
cutting & pasting either the wrong bug id, or
http://bugs.debian.org.au/123456> or
http://bugs.debian.org/#123456>; all of these are wrong).

The downside though is that this would require the BTS software to
edit the email message, deal correctly with MIME attachments, etc. I
think mailing list software does this correctly though(?), so it
should be possible.

Another option would be to add-yet-another-cool-macro to
Gnus/the-kitchen-sink... errr.. I mean Gnus/emacs... that somehow does
the task automatically if
I-can-remember-the-stupid-sequence-of-keys-I-invent-to-activate-it,
but I don't have the time or patience to learn that
awful-programming-language-that-requires-lots-of-nested-brackets... errr... I
mean LISP... right now. ;-)

However, this won't work anyway for people stuck using lesser MUAs
(e.g. mutt), fake MUAs (e.g. evolution), or worse (e.g. anything
written by or for Microsoft).
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Re: adduser: what is the difference between --disabled-password and--disabled-login

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 08:22:26AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Steve> It does, if you use the authorization checks in PAM.  If
> Steve> you only use the authentication checks, then PAM is only
> Steve> going to authenticate the user -- not check whether they're
> Steve> allowed access.

> When you say "authorization checks" vs "authentication checks" what do
> you mean?

> PAM has the following sections "auth", "account", "password",
> "session". All of these are configured by default on Debian. The
> implication I got when reading Marc's post (or did I read too much
> into it?) is if ssh is configured to use PAM and if you use RSA based
> authentication, it won't detect if the account is locked.

> I fail to see where terms like "authorization" and "authentication"
> fit into its configuration scheme.

The PAM "auth" section is for authentication, and the "account" section is
for (account) authorization.

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Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 10:49:10PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:33:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:10:10AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
> > > Steve Langasek schrieb:
> > > >>If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer (> 2.6.8) kernel, why
> > > >>not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues
> > > >>with it, that weren't in 2.2.x? Some people might certainly like the
> > > >>agressive mode support, or 2.3.1's NAT-T fixes. Personally, 2.2.x is
> > > >>fine for me though --- anything but 2.1.x for me :-)
> > > Mainly because 2.3.x causes other openswan boxes to crash in some
> > > (reproducable) cases - that's a pretty bad regression from 2.2.0 and I
> > > keep bugging upstream with it for at least 3 months. No fix until now,
> > > so we can't wait until it will be fixed. I would vote for 2.2.0-4. (or
> > > even 2.2.0-5).
> > 
> > > > Because 2.2.3 is no longer in the archive, and resurrecting new 
> > > > binaries via
> > > > t-p-u gives us even less than the usual protection against breakage 
> > > > caused
> > > > by a lack of testing. :/
> > > Does that mean that the only way to get the known stable 2.2.0-x back
> > > into testing is an upload to unstable with an epoch? I really wouldn't
> > > like to go that route if I can avoid it

> > Well, AFAIK openswan has never actually been in testing /before/, so it's
> > not a matter of getting it /back/; but yes, the upshot is that I'm not
> > comfortable adding packages to testing via t-p-u.

> That's wrong, openswan was in testing earlier this year. Read e.g. [1].

Ah, ok.  I couldn't seem to find any references to that the last time the
question came up, and whichever member of the release team did the actual
removal apparently didn't leave a trace.

Still, the concerns about re-adding this software version (which has been
out of testing for months) via t-p-u remain.

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need help on #271678 (sizefo struct?)

2005-05-15 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello,

On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:36:21PM +0200, Cesare Tensi wrote:
> The bugs #271678 (also #302181) is fixed in -10, so you can close it.
> (X25 Compiled problem).

It is not fixed, the code still reads sizeof(struct x25_address) and  I
think this is correct, since it compiles with recent GCC. I tagged this
needhelp, cause I dont eat C language spec for  dinner, but i am quite sure
the bug report is invalid.

Greetings
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Re: Against which package should this go?

2005-05-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Brian May wrote:
>>"Bernd" == Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
> Bernd> I think it is a good idea. Even if we dont move to a web
> Bernd> based system there is no harm to support us web browser
> Bernd> users a bit :)
> 
> Bernd> And consider especially the end-user.
> 
> Also consider forwarding bugs to upstream, etc. They may not
> understand our BTS system, or how to access the full details of the
> bug.
> 
> I often mention the URL by entering it manually, but this is
> potentially error prone (one day I suspect I will end up accidently
> cutting & pasting either the wrong bug id, or
> http://bugs.debian.org.au/123456> or
> http://bugs.debian.org/#123456>; all of these are wrong).
> 
> The downside though is that this would require the BTS software to
> edit the email message, deal correctly with MIME attachments, etc. I
> think mailing list software does this correctly though(?), so it
> should be possible.
> 
Apparently, (as I mentioned in a previous post) someone came up with
this ages ago: http://bugs.debian.org/9596

It is even tagged with a patch, though that only happened a couple of
months ago.  Hopefully, the fix will be integrated soon.

I don't think that the problem you mention is a bug hurdle, though.
People constantly send signed message to the Debian list and the
mailing list software appends the boilerplate footer to every
message without b0rking the signatures.

> Another option would be to add-yet-another-cool-macro to
> Gnus/the-kitchen-sink... errr.. I mean Gnus/emacs... that somehow does
> the task automatically if
> I-can-remember-the-stupid-sequence-of-keys-I-invent-to-activate-it,
> but I don't have the time or patience to learn that
> awful-programming-language-that-requires-lots-of-nested-brackets... errr... I
> mean LISP... right now. ;-)
> 
Sorry.  I'm not an emacs user :-)

> However, this won't work anyway for people stuck using lesser MUAs
> (e.g. mutt), fake MUAs (e.g. evolution), or worse (e.g. anything
> written by or for Microsoft).
Personally, I use Mozilla Thunderbunny (when will they get a proper
reply-to-list button?  is it that hard?) at home and Horde when I am
at school.

-Roberto

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Re: need help on #271678 (sizefo struct?)

2005-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,

> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:36:21PM +0200, Cesare Tensi wrote:
>> The bugs #271678 (also #302181) is fixed in -10, so you can close it.
>> (X25 Compiled problem).

> It is not fixed, the code still reads sizeof(struct x25_address) and I
> think this is correct, since it compiles with recent GCC. I tagged this
> needhelp, cause I dont eat C language spec for dinner, but i am quite
> sure the bug report is invalid.

sizeof(x25_address) returns the size of the typedef or variable by the
name x25_address.  This isn't the same thing as the struct definition
named x25_address; in fact, they may be completely unrelated.

This is a woody vs. sarge difference.  On sarge, linux/x25.h says:

struct x25_address {
char x25_addr[16];
};

so the current code, with sizeof(struct x25_address) is correct and
changing it would actually break the code.  On woody, linux/x25.h says:

typedef struct {
charx25_addr[16];
} x25_address;

which means that sizeof(x25_address) is correct and the current code won't
compile (because nothing ever creates a struct x25_address, just an
anonymous struct that is typedef'd to x25_address).  This is an
incompatible change in the kernel headers, and there isn't any way for the
code to compile on both systems without some additional portability work.

If you don't care about supporting woody, the current code is correct.

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Re: Bug#302181: need help on #271678 (sizefo struct?)

2005-05-15 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello Russ,

thanks for your help!!!

Ok, I could inline the definition and be happy or go with the sarge version.

In the past i tried to do nasty  ifdef tricks to be portable, but I found
out that inlining those declarations is easier and more robust. In case of
networking the layout cant change, anyway.

Greetings
Bernd


On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 07:44:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> > On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:36:21PM +0200, Cesare Tensi wrote:
> >> The bugs #271678 (also #302181) is fixed in -10, so you can close it.
> >> (X25 Compiled problem).
> 
> > It is not fixed, the code still reads sizeof(struct x25_address) and I
> > think this is correct, since it compiles with recent GCC. I tagged this
> > needhelp, cause I dont eat C language spec for dinner, but i am quite
> > sure the bug report is invalid.
> 
> sizeof(x25_address) returns the size of the typedef or variable by the
> name x25_address.  This isn't the same thing as the struct definition
> named x25_address; in fact, they may be completely unrelated.
> 
> This is a woody vs. sarge difference.  On sarge, linux/x25.h says:
> 
> struct x25_address {
> char x25_addr[16];
> };
> 
> so the current code, with sizeof(struct x25_address) is correct and
> changing it would actually break the code.  On woody, linux/x25.h says:
> 
> typedef struct {
> charx25_addr[16];
> } x25_address;
> 
> which means that sizeof(x25_address) is correct and the current code won't
> compile (because nothing ever creates a struct x25_address, just an
> anonymous struct that is typedef'd to x25_address).  This is an
> incompatible change in the kernel headers, and there isn't any way for the
> code to compile on both systems without some additional portability work.
> 
> If you don't care about supporting woody, the current code is correct.
> 
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> 
> 

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