Re: library packaging doc...
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:54:07AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I was kind of waiting for inclusion into the developers reference, > but the text format is different. > > libpkg-guide is written in docbook XML while > developers reference is written in DebianDoc SGML. Could you please consider contributing this to the DDP and adding it to the DDP CVS? I'd rather not have Debian Documentation in all sort of different places, specially documentation written by DDs. And the DDP is the proper place to both provide this (through the CVS, which gets built and published in Debian's website) and submit bugs to (through the virtual 'debian-doc' package) > Considering that enough people seem to be feeling the > itch for libpkg-guide package, and since I would > consider using the BTS etc. for revision management > of libpkg-guide, I might go around packaging it as a > Debian package. The DDP does not have currently a virtual BTS entry (like www.debian.org) but one could be set up if needed for documents there. Regards Javier signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Work-needing packages report for Jan 28, 2005
My ISP's spamassasin tags the work-needing emails as spam. It is very easy to lower the spam score. One of the triggered testsis NO_REAL_NAME witch is extremely easy to circumvent. The triggered tests: AWL, BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_13, J_CHICKENPOX_24, J_CHICKENPOX_32, J_CHICKENPOX_33, J_CHICKENPOX_41, J_CHICKENPOX_44, J_CHICKENPOX_51, J_CHICKENPOX_63, J_CHICKENPOX_65, J_CHICKENPOX_81, NO_REAL_NAME, TW_BD, TW_BF, TW_BG, TW_BH, TW_BJ, TW_BL, TW_BM, TW_BQ, TW_BV, TW_BX, TW_BZ, TW_CS, TW_CX, TW_DB, TW_DF, TW_DK, TW_DN, TW_DP, TW_DR, TW_DW, TW_DX, TW_EV, TW_FH, TW_FM, TW_FN, TW_FV, TW_FW, TW_GD, TW_GF, TW_GG, TW_GK, TW_GP, TW_GT, TW_GX, TW_HF, TW_HK, TW_HP, TW_HR, TW_IB, TW_JF, TW_JH, TW_JP, TW_JS, TW_KB, TW_KD, TW_KP, TW_KR, TW_KX, TW_LP, TW_LR, TW_LV, TW_LX, TW_MD, TW_MF, TW_MG, TW_MH, TW_MK, TW_MX, TW_NF, TW_NQ, TW_NV, TW_OC, TW_OK, TW_OQ, TW_OZ, TW_PD, TW_PG, TW_PM, TW_PN, TW_PP, TW_PQ, TW_PX, TW_QD, TW_QG, TW_QL, TW_QT, TW_QV, TW_QW, TW_QX, TW_RQ, TW_RW, TW_SG, TW_SL, TW_SQ, TW_SV, TW_SX, TW_TB, TW_TK, TW_TP, TW_UQ, TW_UV, TW_VD, TW_VG, TW_VM, TW_VP, TW_VR, TW_VS, TW_VW, TW_WC, TW_WM, TW_WP, TW_WR, TW_WT, TW_WU, TW_WV, TW_WX, TW_XB, TW_XC, TW_XD, TW_XG, TW_XJ, TW_XM, TW_XN, TW_XP, TW_XS, TW_XV, TW_XZ, TW_YY, TW_ZG, TW_ZH, TW_ZM, TW_ZP, TW_ZV On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 00:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Report about packages that need work for Jan 28, 2005 > > Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 71 > Number of packages offered up for adoption this week: 2 > Total number of orphaned packages: 239 > Number of packages orphaned this week: 1 > Total number of packages requested help for: 20 > Number of packages requested help for this week: 0 > > The number in parenthesis after each package name is the corresponding > bug report number. > > Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. > > -- Daniel van Eeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Work-needing packages report for Jan 28, 2005
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:15:21AM +0100, Daniel van Eeden wrote: > The triggered tests: > AWL, BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_13, J_CHICKENPOX_24, J_CHICKENPOX_32, > J_CHICKENPOX_33, J_CHICKENPOX_41, J_CHICKENPOX_44, J_CHICKENPOX_51, > J_CHICKENPOX_63, J_CHICKENPOX_65, J_CHICKENPOX_81, NO_REAL_NAME, TW_BD, > TW_BF, TW_BG, TW_BH, TW_BJ, TW_BL, TW_BM, TW_BQ, TW_BV, TW_BX, TW_BZ, > TW_CS, TW_CX, TW_DB, TW_DF, TW_DK, TW_DN, TW_DP, TW_DR, TW_DW, TW_DX, > TW_EV, TW_FH, TW_FM, TW_FN, TW_FV, TW_FW, TW_GD, TW_GF, TW_GG, TW_GK, > TW_GP, TW_GT, TW_GX, TW_HF, TW_HK, TW_HP, TW_HR, TW_IB, TW_JF, TW_JH, > TW_JP, TW_JS, TW_KB, TW_KD, TW_KP, TW_KR, TW_KX, TW_LP, TW_LR, TW_LV, > TW_LX, TW_MD, TW_MF, TW_MG, TW_MH, TW_MK, TW_MX, TW_NF, TW_NQ, TW_NV, > TW_OC, TW_OK, TW_OQ, TW_OZ, TW_PD, TW_PG, TW_PM, TW_PN, TW_PP, TW_PQ, > TW_PX, TW_QD, TW_QG, TW_QL, TW_QT, TW_QV, TW_QW, TW_QX, TW_RQ, TW_RW, > TW_SG, TW_SL, TW_SQ, TW_SV, TW_SX, TW_TB, TW_TK, TW_TP, TW_UQ, TW_UV, > TW_VD, TW_VG, TW_VM, TW_VP, TW_VR, TW_VS, TW_VW, TW_WC, TW_WM, TW_WP, > TW_WR, TW_WT, TW_WU, TW_WV, TW_WX, TW_XB, TW_XC, TW_XD, TW_XG, TW_XJ, > TW_XM, TW_XN, TW_XP, TW_XS, TW_XV, TW_XZ, TW_YY, TW_ZG, TW_ZH, TW_ZM, > TW_ZP, TW_ZV AWL, BAYES_00 and NO_REAL_NAME are stock spamassassin rules: | $ grep AWL /usr/share/spamassassin -r | /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf:header AWL eval:check_from_in_auto_whitelist() | $ grep BAYES_00 /usr/share/spamassassin -r | /usr/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf:body BAYES_00 eval:check_bayes('0.00', '0.01') | $ grep NO_REAL_NAME /usr/share/spamassassin -r | /usr/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf:header NO_REAL_NAMEFrom =~ /^["\s]*\<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?\s*$/ But the others are not. You have to fix the problem yourself. Bastian -- Sometimes a feeling is all we humans have to go on. -- Kirk, "A Taste of Armageddon", stardate 3193.9 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 17:08 +0100, Guglielmo Dapavo wrote: > * URL : http://www.dapavo.it/ Sounds like an interesting project, but there's nothing there apart from a zope icon. I googled a bit but www.gtkpizza.org seems to be a domain name search holding page. Is there a homepage somewhere else? Ian. -- Ian Campbell Current Noise: The Haunted - All Against All Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent
Bonjour Monsieur, Je suis une des Responsable des billets d'échange au Département des Remises internationales dans une Banque. J'écris pour solliciter votre aide et assistance pour effectuer une transaction confidentielle. Jai découvert un compte abandonné dune somme de 11.500.000 dollars (Onze Millions Cinq Cent Mille Dollars) appartenant à un client étranger qui est décédé avec toute sa famille dans le crash de la Concorde en lan 2000 à Paris dans lequel presque tous les passagers ont perdu leur vie. Depuis que nous avons reçu cette information, nous espérons quun Bénéficiaire vienne réclamer les fonds car notre banque ne peux remettre cet argent à quelquun que sauf si la personne envoie une demande a la banque Comme étant bien sur une relation du disparu comme lindique la constitution de la banque ; mais malheureusement nous avons remarqué que le bénéficiaire aussi été mort ensemble avec lui car ils voyageaient ensemble.Cest donc à la découverte de cette information que jai décidé de vous proposer cette affaire afin que cet argent vous soit remis comme bénéficiaire ou une relation du propriétaire du compte pour que je vienne récupérer après comme personne ne viendra pour le réclamer jusqu'à ce que cela sera verse dans les coffres de la trésorerie de la banque .Les régulations bancaires demandent à ce que tout compte qui reste sans opération pendant trois années successives soit versé dans les coffres de la trésorerie de la banque comme fonds non réclame. Le besoin dun partenaire étranger dans un autre pays comme bénéficiaire survient dans cette affaire du fait que le propriétaire du compte est un étranger et un ivoirien ne peut jamais être son bénéficiaire direct. Nous offrons de vous donner en tant notre partenaire étranger a la suite cette transaction, un pourcentage de 20 pour cent, 5 pour cent des fonds transfères serviront au remboursement de toutes les dépenses qui seront accumulées durant le transfert sil y a lieu et les 75 pour cent ( 75% ) restant reviendra à moi. Je vous rejoindrai dans votre pays après le Transfert pour le retrait selon les pourcentage sus mentionnes. Par ailleurs, afin de faciliter le transfert le plus tôt possible vous allez envoyer une demande directement à la banque comme étant une relation du propriétaire du compte en indiquant votre banque, le numéro de compte, ou cet argent sera viré, votre numéro de téléphone et de fax pour une communication constante et effective entre nous. Des la réception de votre réponse, je vous enverrai par email ou par fax le texte de la demande. Je dois aussi vous rassurer que cette transaction est sans aucun engagement et libre de tout risque et vous ne devez pas avoir aucune peur car tous les arrangements sont pris de notre coté pour que tout se passe très bien. Veuillez me répondre vite car je compte sur vous pour mener a bout cette transaction. Recevez mes sincères salutations. ETSE Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails !Créez votre Yahoo! Mail
Re: Urgent
Selon etse hellene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Bonjour Monsieur, > For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I have ever received in this language, albeit very poorly written. François. -- Francois BOTTIN -- "How kind," the PFY sighs. "But where will I go?" "Somewhere where they know nothing about computing... where they wouldn't know a RAM chip from a potato chip!" "But I don't want to visit Microsoft!" he whines. The BOFH 1998 - Simon Travaglia (bofh.ntk.net) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: try to keep a watch file into your package
Il giorno mer, 26-01-2005 alle 09:02 +0100, Free Ekanayaka ha scritto: > Thanks for this effort. > > Would it make sense to support queries of dehs by maintainer email > address? > > This ways it would be easier for people to check the status of their > own packages. This functionality is already implemented at http://dehs.alioth.debian.org Cheers, Blue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: try to keep a watch file into your package
>What do you do with packages that have uncooperative upstream and thus >a watch file is not possible? > >apg's web host, for example, doesn't support directory listings, so I >had to resort on checking the fingerprint of the download web page to >find out whether there is a new release. > >Greetings >Marc If there is no way, other than following mailing list, to know upstream version and the upstream author doesn't want to help you there is no way for dehs to follow upstream release, but this is not the case of apg. I think that this watch file works fine: version=2 http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/download.shtml download/apg-([^b]+)\.tar\.gz debian uupdate Cheers, Blue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent
Francois Bottin wrote: > Selon etse hellene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Bonjour Monsieur, > > > > For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I have > ever > received in this language, albeit very poorly written. Probably some automated translation, like the german variants are. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent
Selon Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Francois Bottin wrote: > > Selon etse hellene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > Bonjour Monsieur, > > > > > > > For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I have > > ever received in this language, albeit very poorly written. > > Probably some automated translation, like the german variants are. Perhaps, but I don't think so if the claim stating that the author is Ivorian is true: the official language in Cote d'Ivoire is french. German is not so widely used over the world then I think you are less prone to receive s[cp]am in your language, making the automatic filtering easier. François. -- Francois BOTTIN -- "How kind," the PFY sighs. "But where will I go?" "Somewhere where they know nothing about computing... where they wouldn't know a RAM chip from a potato chip!" "But I don't want to visit Microsoft!" he whines. The BOFH 1998 - Simon Travaglia (bofh.ntk.net) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache
Previously, a number of packages have had to continue to link against libmysqlclient10 in spite of the availability of libmysqlclient12 libraries from upstream's MySQL 4.0 release. Some of these have been due to the lack of a clear license exemption allowing libmyslqclient12 to be linked from GPL-incompatible programs; others have been held back to avoid segfaults caused by loading both libmysqlclient10 and libmysqlclient12 in the same address space. Over the past six months, the situation has changed significantly. The mysql maintainer, mysql upstream, and others have admirably worked through the license issues to get a license exception that meets the needs of the software that Debian distributes. You can find the current version of this license exception at [1]. At the same time, compatibility between the old client libs and the current server (including the version that we will ship with sarge) has waned, to the point that no libmysqlclient10 clients will work with the default configuration of MySQL 4.1, and some won't work with any MySQL 4.x server at all [2]. As a result, in spite of the timing wrt the release, I'm proposing a transition to libmysqlclient12 for a number of packages for sarge. The packages listed below are those packages currently in sarge which either are broken with MySQL 4.x, or have the possibility of conflicting with one of the packages that do (mostly by being loaded by a webserver such as apache or apache2, or being mysql bindings for a language that also has ODBC bindings). aspseek-libmysqldb catalog caudium-php4 freeradius-mysql gda-mysql gda2-mysql libapache-mod-acct-mysql libapache-mod-auth-mysql libapache-mod-mp3 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libdbd-mysql libdbd-mysql-perl libgnademysql1 libmyodbc libmysql-ruby1.6 libmysql-ruby1.8 libsqlxx2.3c102 mysqltcl php3-mysql php4-mysql python2.2-mysqldb python2.3-mysqldb It would also probably be a good idea to transition these packages at the same time: dovecot-common exim4-daemon-heavy libnss-mysql libnss-mysql-bg libpam-mysql libsasl2-modules-sql I have Cc:ed the maintainers of these packages. If anyone knows of other packages linked to libmysqlclient10 that will be affected by this transition, please let us know. While introducing versioned symbols into the mysqlclient libraries could have a longer-term benefit in eliminating the kind of segfaults motivating this all-at-once transition, in the present case there are other factors: - since libmysqlclient10 didn't use symbol versioning in woody, users would still get segfaults from partial upgrades - getting benefits from symbol versioning requires rebuilding all packages depending on the library *anyway*, so we might as well upgrade to the new version of the lib in the process. I think it would be beneficial if libmysqlclient12 used symbol versioning for sarge, but I don't think that we should wait for that to happen before fixing the present issues. The current plan for this transition is as follows: - I will transition libmyodbc and php4 to libmysqlclient12 at the end of this weekend. Other maintainers are encouraged to upload around the same time. Maintainers who will not be around this week, and would like their packages to be NMUed, can email me privately. - On Wednesday, Feb 2, I will file grave bugs on any remaining packages from the first list above that have not been relinked against libmysqlclient12, because they will now certainly cause segfaults in certain configurations. The packages in the second group will not be targetted, because NSS and PAM modules may cause some segfaults regardless of which library they link against, so the fact that they do not already have RC bugs against them means that this problem is probably quite rare. - On Saturday, Feb 5, I will begin NMUing any packages from the first list that have still not been fixed. Since there are only 17 source packages total, I expect to be done by the end of the weekend. If you object to this plan, please speak up now. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer [1] http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html [2] http://bugs.debian.org/274879 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Urgent
Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >> > For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I have >> > ever received in this language, albeit very poorly written. >> >> Probably some automated translation, like the german variants are. > > Perhaps, but I don't think so if the claim stating that the author is Ivorian > is > true: the official language in Cote d'Ivoire is french. > > German is not so widely used over the world then I think you are less prone to > receive s[cp]am in your language, making the automatic filtering easier. So you think spam is the revenge for colionalism? Lucky Germans, we. Namibian scam, anybody? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich Debian Developer
Re: Urgent
Selon Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So you think spam is the revenge for colionalism? Lucky Germans, we. > > Namibian scam, anybody? Hum... From your signature I guess you are from Switzerland and do not know a lot about german history, but you should know that at a time in history Germany had colonialized part of Africa. I hesitated in adding a note to avoid this slip in the discussion, and I certainly do not want to see here why there is no more german colony today. History is past, do not waken this please. Some wounds have already been refreshed this week and this is enough. François. -- Francois BOTTIN -- "How kind," the PFY sighs. "But where will I go?" "Somewhere where they know nothing about computing... where they wouldn't know a RAM chip from a potato chip!" "But I don't want to visit Microsoft!" he whines. The BOFH 1998 - Simon Travaglia (bofh.ntk.net) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: try to keep a watch file into your package
|--==> bluefuture writes: b> Il giorno mer, 26-01-2005 alle 09:02 +0100, Free Ekanayaka ha scritto: >>Thanks for this effort. >> >>Would it make sense to support queries of dehs by maintainer email >>address? >> >>This ways it would be easier for people to check the status of their >>own packages. b> This functionality is already implemented at http://dehs.alioth.debian.org Ooops, I missed it! Thanks. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: library packaging doc...
Hi, I seem to have lost the mail I tried to send last time, rewriting. > Could you please consider contributing this to the DDP and adding it to the > DDP CVS? I'd rather not have Debian Documentation in all sort of different > places, specially documentation written by DDs. And the DDP is the proper > place to both provide this (through the CVS, which gets built and published > in Debian's website) and submit bugs to (through the virtual 'debian-doc' > package) I need three things 1. Is result of DDP packaged in Debian as a batch? 2. does it support docbook sgml/xml? 3. can I get commit-access to CVS? regards, junichi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent
Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Selon Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> So you think spam is the revenge for colionalism? Lucky Germans, we. >> >> Namibian scam, anybody? I forgot to put some irony indicators here. > Hum... From your signature I guess you are from Switzerland I work there, but am german. > and do not know a > lot about german history, but you should know that at a time in history > Germany > had colonialized part of Africa. Today Namibia, that's why I was asking for bad german scam from there... Excuse me if I have annoyed anybody with a bad joke. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich Debian Developer
Re: NM queue and groups
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 02:41:12PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All the rational discussion has always been about what constitutes > > 'hiding', > > I have also read discussion about what we promise not to hide (before > our users, and before fellow developers). I didn't get the impression > that this discussion wasn't rational (although it may have been > conducted in a rather emotional way sometimes). Did you not read the sentence you quoted? Nothing in this paragraph contradicts it. > But may I point you to the fact that Joel just > tried to start such a discussion (albeit only in a side note to a side > note)? You didn't show that this was irrational (except by assertion > that it is not possible to rationally discuss the meaning of the word > "problems"). It is not necessary to show that a non-obvious assertion with no rationale is irrational. The only appropriate response to a disconnected assertion, such as the one he introduced, is to assert that it is wrong and indicate the correct one. Anything less is to encourage the propagation of an incorrect meme; anything more is a waste of time. Anybody who is interested in discussing the issue will then proceed to discuss it; anybody who is not will demonstrate this fact in a fairly obvious manner (around here, usually denoted by pointless rants and ad-hominem arguments), several examples of which can be seen in this thread. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#292645: ITP: gnomeradio -- FM radio tuner for GNOME
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gnomeradio Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : JÃrgen Scheibengruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio/ * License : GPL Description : FM radio tuner for GNOME Gnomeradio is a FM radio tuning program for GNOME desktop environment. It uses GTK+ 2 technology for user interface and video4linux drivers for actual FM tuning, so it'll work with any FM radio tuner, supported by v4l. -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i586) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-1-386 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Bug#292643: ITP: cl-s-xml -- simple Common Lisp XML parser
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: cl-s-xml Version : 3+cvs.2005.01.27 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://common-lisp.net/project/s-xml/ * License : Lisp LGPL Description : simple Common Lisp XML parser S-XML is a Common Lisp implementation of a simple XML parser, with a SAX-like and DOM interface. . This XML parser implementation has the following features: * It works (handling many common XML usages). * It is very small (the core is about 400 lines of code, including comments and whitespace). * It has a core API that is simple, efficient and pure functional, much like that from SSAX (see also http://ssax.sourceforge.net). * It supports different DOM models: an XSML-based one, an LXML-based one and a classic xml-element struct based one. * It is reasonably time and space efficient (internally avoiding garbage generatation as much as possible). . This XML parser implementation has the following limitations: * It does not support CDATA. * Only supports simple character sets. * It does not support name spaces * It does not support any special tags (like processing instructions). * It is not validating, even skips DTD's all together. = I already packaged it, it's available on my unofficial Debian repository: http://luca.pca.it/debian/ My GPG key is 6D742669, http://keyserver.linux.it or http://luca.pca.it, key fingerprint 10CD 0397 6DBE 1E36 DEA3 72CC 540A 7B5E 6D74 2669 The package is based on other cl-* packages, I followed the "Debian New Maintainers' Guide" and it's lintian checked. This is my first *official* Debian package, it will be follow ASAP by cl-gtk (which needs to be checked for some little Debian things). I haven't wrote to the sponsor list yet, because AFAIK most of the cl-* packages are updated by Kevin M. Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, so maybe he'd be direct interested in sponsoring me (or whatever the best for this and the other cl-* packages I'm going to ITP). I'm here for any other questions, suggestions, etc. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca - -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-mh2 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+kc7VAp7Xm10JmkRAtHnAJ4vHRNkq2ExV4u2spvXcIVHUV/brwCeNKeV RHJ+E2xCFULUjEt6kP1QHxg= =Kr35 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent
On 28-Jan-05, 04:30 (CST), Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I > have ever received in this language, albeit very poorly written. That's sad, because the English ones are the epitomy of prose styling, not to mention a model of correct grammar and spelling. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:03:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > Over the past six months, the situation has changed significantly. The > mysql maintainer, mysql upstream, and others have admirably worked through > the license issues to get a license exception that meets the needs of the > software that Debian distributes. You can find the current version of this > license exception at [1]. At a short glance this still seems to be missing a OpenSSL exception. - Has this been resolved? [...] > exim4-daemon-heavy [...] > libpam-mysql [...] These two would need to change at the same time, otherwise #235938 would reappear. (A symbol clash when using PAM authenticcation in exim on a system using pam-mysql.) [...] > I think it would be beneficial if libmysqlclient12 used symbol versioning > for sarge, but I don't think that we should wait for that to happen before > fixing the present issues. [...] Upstream has denied adding versioned symbols once (http://bugs.debian.org/236288) they'd need to be convinced. cu andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#292653: ITP: lhs2tex -- Preprocessor to generate LaTeX code from literate Haskell sources
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: lhs2tex Version : 1.9 Upstream Author : Ralf Hinze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andres Loeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cs.uu.nl/~andres/lhs2tex/ * License : GPL Description : Preprocessor to generate LaTeX code from literate Haskell sources lhs2TeX includes the following features: * Different styles to process your source file: for instance, "tt" style uses a monospaced font for the code while still allowing you to highlight keywords etc, whereas "poly" style uses proportional fonts for identifiers, handles indentation nicely, is able to replace binary operators by mathematical symbols and take care of complex horizontal alignments. * Formatting directives, which let you customize the way certain tokens in the source code should appear in the processed output. * A liberal parser that can handle most of the language extensions; you don't have to restrict yourself to Haskell 98. * Preprocessor-style conditionals that allow you to generate different versions of a document from a single source file (for instance, a paper and a presentation). * Active documents: you can use Haskell to generate parts of the document (useful for papers on Haskell). * A manual explaining all the important aspects of lhs2TeX. -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: alpha Kernel: Linux 2.6.9-vs1.9.3 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NM queue and groups
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [stuff] I cannot follow you, sorry. EOT. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich Debian Developer
Bug#292666: ITP: autoreply -- A safe, rate-limited auto-responder
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: autoreply Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Giles Lean * URL : http://www.nemeton.com.au/sw/autoreply/ * License : BSD Description : A safe, rate-limited auto-responder A safe, rate-limited autoresponder autoreply is a simple autoresponder useful for replying to email upon receipt. -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.27-1-386 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#292667: ITP: autoreply -- A safe, rate-limited autoresponder
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: autoreply Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Giles Lean * URL : http://www.nemeton.com.au/sw/autoreply/ * License : BSD Description : A safe, rate-limited autoresponder Autoreply is a simple autoresponder useful for replying to email upon receipt. -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.27-1-386 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NM queue and groups
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:35:11PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 02:41:12PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: > > But may I point you to the fact that Joel just > > tried to start such a discussion (albeit only in a side note to a side > > note)? You didn't show that this was irrational (except by assertion > > that it is not possible to rationally discuss the meaning of the word > > "problems"). > > It is not necessary to show that a non-obvious assertion with no > rationale is irrational. The only appropriate response to a > disconnected assertion, such as the one he introduced, is to assert > that it is wrong and indicate the correct one. Anything less is to > encourage the propagation of an incorrect meme; anything more is a > waste of time. Anybody who is interested in discussing the issue will > then proceed to discuss it; anybody who is not will demonstrate this > fact in a fairly obvious manner (around here, usually denoted by > pointless rants and ad-hominem arguments), several examples of which > can be seen in this thread. Because, as we all know, trimming the rationale and the examples given of why there is an issue renders the assertion both non-obvious and without rationale. I stand in awe of your techniques. You're quite sure you won't be running for a US Congressional seat sometime soon? -- Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ,''`. : :' : `. `' `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:03:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > [...] > > Over the past six months, the situation has changed significantly. The > > mysql maintainer, mysql upstream, and others have admirably worked through > > the license issues to get a license exception that meets the needs of the > > software that Debian distributes. You can find the current version of this > > license exception at [1]. > > At a short glance this still seems to be missing a OpenSSL exception. > - Has this been resolved? no, afaik the openssl-related code in debian mysql-foo is disabled[1]. not that i wouldn't mind having it back... sean [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=291945 -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache
On 2005-01-28 sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:03:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > [...] > > > Over the past six months, the situation has changed > > > significantly. The mysql maintainer, mysql upstream, and others > > > have admirably worked through the license issues to get a > > > license exception that meets the needs of the software that > > > Debian distributes. You can find the current version of this > > > license exception at [1]. > > At a short glance this still seems to be missing a OpenSSL exception. > > - Has this been resolved? > no, afaik the openssl-related code in debian mysql-foo is disabled[1]. [...] This seems to break the whole plan. A nontrivial number of packages need to link against libmysqlclient* _and_ libssl. If libmysql12's license does not allow that, we are screwed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep-available -FDepends libmysqlclient10 | grep-dctrl -FDepends -sPackage -n libssl perdition-mysql dovecot-common caudium-php4 sqlrelay-mysql motion pure-ftpd-mysql proftpd-mysql gnugk And these are just direct linkages against both libraries, there's also a lot of bar depends on both libmysqlclient10 and libbar and libbar itself links against libssl. - I never remember whether we actually (have to) respect indirect linkage like that license-wise but judging from cadaver I guess we do. cu andreas -- "See, I told you they'd listen to Reason," [SPOILER] Svfurlr fnlf, fuhggvat qbja gur juveyvat tha. Neal Stephenson in "Snow Crash" http://downhill.aus.cc/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build-Depends: libmysqlclient-dev and buildds
The recent announce from Steve has reminded me of something I wanted to ask about the package name change from libmysqlclient-dev to libmysqlclient12-dev made in November: Do packages still having "Build-Depends: libmysqlclient-dev" build from source? Trying "apt-get build-dep" on them results on apt-get being undecided about which libmysqlclient-dev to install. Do buildds handle this gracefully? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#292643: ITP: cl-s-xml -- simple Common Lisp XML parser
> This XML parser implementation has the following limitations: > * It does not support CDATA. > * Only supports simple character sets. What do you mean, "simple" character sets? What's the difference between a simple character set and a complex character set? -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 08:17:18PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2005-01-28 sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:03:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Over the past six months, the situation has changed > > > > significantly. The mysql maintainer, mysql upstream, and others > > > > have admirably worked through the license issues to get a > > > > license exception that meets the needs of the software that > > > > Debian distributes. You can find the current version of this > > > > license exception at [1]. > > > At a short glance this still seems to be missing a OpenSSL exception. > > > - Has this been resolved? > > no, afaik the openssl-related code in debian mysql-foo is disabled[1]. > [...] > This seems to break the whole plan. A nontrivial number of packages > need to link against libmysqlclient* _and_ libssl. If libmysql12's > license does not allow that, we are screwed. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep-available -FDepends libmysqlclient10 | grep-dctrl > -FDepends -sPackage -n libssl > perdition-mysql > dovecot-common > caudium-php4 > sqlrelay-mysql > motion > pure-ftpd-mysql > proftpd-mysql > gnugk Of these packages, the only one that was on the list of packages that need to transition together is caudium-php4. The php4 source package is also due for a reorg to enable ZTS, which will remove the need for statically building the mysql extension into this package; if we need to make this change at the same time as the mysql transition, then so be it. The only other package in your list that was mentioned at all in my email is dovecot-common, which is only loosely coupled with the others as a result of libpam/nss-mysql and libsasl2-modules-sql. > And these are just direct linkages against both libraries, there's > also a lot of bar depends on both libmysqlclient10 and libbar and > libbar itself links against libssl. - I never remember whether we > actually (have to) respect indirect linkage like that license-wise but > judging from cadaver I guess we do. This affects the PHP packages, since all the SAPI alternatives that php4-mysql can use currently link against libssl. I'll need to investigate more to see if we can get away from this; even if it means dropping the PHP OpenSSL extension, I think it's probably still a good trade. It also seems to affect libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, since apache2 includes https support by default. I don't see any way to fix this one. I don't see any other packages in the list that are likely to have this problem, although I haven't traced the dependencies to be sure. That leaves us with several choices: - ignore libapache2-mod-auth-mysql for the transition, and hope the actual incidence of segfaults from intersecting libraries is low. - push symbol versioning into libmysqlclient10 and libmysqlclient12, and break up the transition - cajole upstream into adding OpenSSL to the list of license exceptions - ship sarge with a broken myodbc package Of course, I would in any case delay the transition until we can decide on a way forward from here. Comments? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: library packaging doc...
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:03:23PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I need three things > > 1. Is result of DDP packaged in Debian as a batch? No (but could be done :-) > 2. does it support docbook sgml/xml? CVS supports anything, automatic builds do support Docbook (you have sample Xml Makefiles in the 'xml-sgml-policy', 'repository-howto' and 'distribute-deb' repositories. > 3. can I get commit-access to CVS? Sure, any DD can get that access check out http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs Regards Javier signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apply to NM? ha!
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 11:26, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not believe that being thick-skinned enough to cope with people who > are very agressive or insulting should be a requirement for involvement > in Debian. Sadly, it seems to me that this is effectively the case. > Shouldn't we be more interested in someone's technical skills, and their > ability to work well with others? What makes you think that Debian is unique in this regard? Have you never been to a conference dinner where Rusty's flame collection is on display? For those of you who don't know Rusty has a fine collection of flames (and other silly messages) written to some very skillful Linux programmers. You can write excellent code and be nice and still get flamed a lot. This is just something you have to deal with. Children have problems with this sort of thing, adults are supposed to be able to deal with it. Anyone who can't deal with being flamed should not be permitted to drive a car. Other drivers will do offensive things, if you can't deal with it then you can't drive safely and are a threat to the life of everyone on the road. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: apply to NM? ha!
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 12:21, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the point of view of behaviour in Debian lists that is > intimidating to newcomers and especially people who are shy or not very > thick-skinned, the most troubling post to this thread, in my opinion, The most shy person I know is a regular contributor to this list. I don't think that the word "shy" really makes sense when discussing ability to deal with flames on the net. You just need to be able to ignore flames or be combative enough to fight fire with fire. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: apply to NM? ha!
On Monday 24 January 2005 21:01, "SR, ESC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and don't bother replying, i've unsubbed from this list. get on with > your lives and ignore this if you can't/won't deal with it - i don't > want to deal with people that will waste my time for their petty little > politics. On Tuesday 25 January 2005 14:45, "SR, ESC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > good bye. On Tuesday 25 January 2005 11:59, "SR, ESC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to answer some of the people attacking my character - as it seems to > me they're doing - i work well with people, you have a problem with > it? tough. judging a person based on a reaction and having had > enough of crap from people is no way to judge someone. i barely post > here, how dare you exclude me based on a raving rant like i did? i see > many people rant, if you were to exclude people based on that, you > would've excluded them already. reading some of the replies it just > gets me pissed off all over again, and wanting to rant. get a clue. Clearly you haven't unsubscribed from the list so you can't have been that offended. If you want to change your attitude then there's a possibility of joining Debian at some later date. Just try and keep the rants to a minority of your posts. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: origins of the Debian logo
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 15:18 +0100, Hanspeter Kunz wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 18:01 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > In the process of completion of my book (http://debianbook.info), > > I have one more question. Unfortunately, I am on a shitty GSM link > > right now and the available (crippled) means of research have not > > been able to produce an answer to the following: > > > > Where does the Debian Swirl come from? > > What does it try to symbolise? > > Was (partly) answered on debian-user some days ago: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg03402.html > After digging a bit more, I found the following post: http://lists.userlinux.com/pipermail/discuss/2004-March/004625.html --- I quote: - It's "magic smoke". Electrical engineer lore is that when you burn out an electronic component, you cause the "magic smoke" that makes it work to be released. Once the magic smoke is gone, the component doesn't work any longer. Debian is supposed to be the magic smoke that makes your computer work. Thanks Bruce [Perens] --- end of quote - Shouldn't this explanation go to www.debian.org/logos/ ? cheers, Hp. -- Hanspeter Kunz Artificial Intelligence Laboratory Ph.D. Student Department of Information Technology Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Zurich Tel: +41.(0)44.63-54306 Andreasstrasse 15, Office 2.12 http://ailab.ch/people/hkunzCH-8050 Zurich, Switzerland Spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part