Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?

[Brian May]

On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 02:53:27PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> > Ideally, amavis needs access for all archive formats so it can check
> > for viruses in E-Mail...
> 
> You mean it must be able to UNpack those packed files attached to E-Mail?

Yes.

> > > P.S: I don't subscribe to mailing-lists of Debian, so please Cc: your
> > > replies to me. And I am not Debian developer.
> > 
> > Please set your Mail-Followup-To: header correctly in future, that
> > way mutt will automatically do the right thing.
> 
> Thanks. I did not know about that. I already know, how to use
> Followup-To: -header in Usenet News.

Did you really mean to say:

Mail-Followup-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

If you want CCs, you need to be mentioned there, too.
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Re: Accepted libmime-base64-perl 2.12-4.1 (i386 source)

[Joey Hess]

Anthony Fok wrote:
> Format: 1.7
> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:24:09 +0800
> Source: libmime-base64-perl
> Binary: libmime-base64-perl
> Architecture: source i386
> Version: 2.12-4.1
> Distribution: unstable
> Urgency: high
> Maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Changed-By: Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Description: 
>  libmime-base64-perl - MIME/Base64 decoding for Perl
> Changes: 
>  libmime-base64-perl (2.12-4.1) unstable; urgency=high
>  .
>* NMU to fix dependency problem with the Perl 5.6 to 5.8 upgrade.

Erm, libmime-base64-perl is now provided by perl, and so there is little
point in continuing to maintain a separate package. It would be more
useful to try to get it removed from unstable somehow..

Do not NMU list:

Package: perl
Provides: perl5, libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libtime-hires-perl

Package: perl-modules
Provides: libpod-parser-perl, libansicolor-perl, libfile-temp-perl,
libnet-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl,
libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl,
libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl

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New package netfilter-init to experimental?

[Marc Haber]

Hi,

where I work, I have developed a framework to flexibly initialize
netfilter packet filter rules called netfilter-init. We install it
from a debian file, and the code is licensed GPL. It currently does
what we need, but that is not enough for a package in Debian.

The package is currently lacking support for dynamic IP addresses, and
building the packet filter rules is way too slow. Our most complex
machine takes seven minutes to build a new rule set. It is so slow
because everything is implemented as shell scripts. There are plans to
convert the significant part of code to C++ and to use iptables
--restore to establish the rule set instead of issueing bazillions of
iptables calls.

Rene Mayrhofer's gibraltar does use our framework, and so does our own
firewall product.

I am wondering if a package in this state of code would be a good idea
in experimental. No way it will be in unstable unless the speed issues
are solved and support for dynamic IP addresses is established.

May I ask for some comments about this?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Convenient way to enable IDE DMA

[Chris Halls]

On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 12:11:18PM -0700, Nate Eldredge wrote:
> The other question is how it should be enabled.  One way is "hdparm -d 1
> /dev/hd?" or moral equivalent in an init script.  

The hwtools package includes a script with a placeholder for such hdparm
tuning in /etc/init.d/hwtools:

# hdparm optimization
# Switches on interrupts during transfers and does multi sector transfers
if command -v hdparm >/dev/null 2>&1; then
#   hdparm -q [PUT ARGS HERE]
   true
fi

Chris


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Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default

[Colin Walters]

On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 00:43, Miles Bader wrote:

> What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian,
> in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI

The idea that devfs hardwires anything seems to be very popular.  It is
also completely wrong.  You can use the userspace devfsd to transform
the names however you like.  For example, add these two lines to
/etc/devfs/devfsd.conf, and you'll get the correct[1] spelling.

REGISTER ^discs CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname disks
REGISTER ^discs/disc([0-9]*) CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink ../$devname discs/disk\1

I'm sure there's a way to get rid of the original spelling, too, if you really 
want.

[1] :)

Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default

[Thomas Bushnell, BSG]

Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian,
> in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though
> `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency,
> what's that?)

In American English usage, "disk" is standard for all usages *except*
for CDs, which are always "compact discs"

Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:43:05PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Erich Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But if it is reliable i would recommend using it. It makes lot of things
> > much easier and probably is much more intuitive for beginners as well.
> > (just thinking of /dev/discs/disc0/part1 and /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 )
> 
> What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian,
> in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though
> `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency,
> what's that?)

Hmm, I'm australian and a 'disk' seems to be what's in computer and a 'disc'
seems to be any other flat round thing :). Go figure.

Ofcourse, the solution is to have multiple config files and have a debconf
question:

How do you want your devices named:

  [1] American
  [2] British
  [3] Australian
  [4] Chinese
  [5] German
   etc...

/me runs...

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Re: Migration to /usr/share/doc

[Yenar Calentaure]

Giorgio Mandolfo wrote:
Hi everybody.
This may be quite stupid or frivolous. :-)
I have noticed the migration of the extra documentation files from 
/usr/doc/ to /usr/share/doc/ (as also describes the Debian Policy 
chapter 13.3).
I am trying not to use exclusively the simbolic link to /usr/share/doc/ 
but to look directly to the new folder.
Well, I there is a (very) simple 
and boring fact: the  completion locks because there is 
/usr/share/doc-base/ too.

I searched for some explanations about it in the Debian Policy, even if 
its name is self-explanatory. I did not find anything.
Couri

So my questions/proposals are:
- Why this directory exists? And what is it about?
This is repository for dwww and dhelp online help packages AFAIK. If you 
launch dhelp (and have appropriate documentation installed), you will 
probably find some docs about how it is supposed to work. Sorry but I 
don't know name of the package with documentation about doc-base :(.

- Is it possible to move their contents to /usr/share/doc/ allowing a 
faster search through the filesystem?
Just hit  instead of tab, one keystroke isn't THAT much :). 
Renameing the directory could solve your problem, but is it worth one 
keystroke per typing /usr/share/doc/whatever?

Thanks for reading,
Giorgio
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Re: unsubscribe mikael.petersson@lovelace.d2g.nu

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Re: Sharp SPAM [marketing@sharpsystems.com: Special Price Offer for Select Sharp Systems Products]

[Josip Rodin]

On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 06:32:40PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote:
> It appears that Sharp Systems systematically spammed writers to the
> Debian-Laptop list, which certainly is an abuse of the debian lists.

While your message seems perfectly valid per se, why are you spamming
debian-devel with it? :/

Everybody, please, remember that debian-devel is for development related,
technical discussions.

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Re: Migration to /usr/share/doc

[Michael Piefel]

Am 27.08.02 um 09:41:50 schrieb Yenar Calentaure:
> Just hit  instead of tab, one keystroke isn't THAT much :). 
> Renameing the directory could solve your problem, but is it worth one 
> keystroke per typing /usr/share/doc/whatever?

Yes, it is worth it. I often use docs, I often use the completion, I'm
always a bit annoyed I have to press one more key.

Perhaps I should use /usr/doc/ instead. Even shorter...

Bye,
Mike

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Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default

[Joseph Carter]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:03:39AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian,
> > in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though
> > `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency,
> > what's that?)
> 
> In American English usage, "disk" is standard for all usages *except*
> for CDs, which are always "compact discs"

Yeah, but Americans can't spell.  ;)

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Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:50:58PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> At Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:23:30 -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > It looks like Arai-san [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be most active.
> > http://ns103.net/~arai is his URL
> > 
> > He has new autoconf version. 
> > 
> > It looks to me people are treating almost like public domain as long as
> > New sources are available to general public.

Here I meant "most Japanese non-commercial entity" by "people".  Debian
can not treat it as PD with current license for sure.

> It's worth considering to include/replace with his patch.
> It includes some more features. My little concern is he does not
> state any copyright issues clearly. I try to contact to him.

My understanding is what ever Arai-san did is copyright of him.  Let's
try to let him license his portion with BSD without AD clause (i.e.
MIT-X) license.  

Problem is original software writers who wrote core parts have to agree
to a new DSFG compliant license.  Otherwise this will not go into MAIN.
I think most of them will agree either GPL or X for their part of
contribution if we contact them properly.  Here is my research result
for the original copyright holders.

Upstream authors, maintainers:
 LHarc 0.01-1.00:   Yooichi Tagawa (LHa code taken from here, 1988-1989)
 Nikkei-mix ID: y.tagawa (Now this is defunct BBS, Licensing term
 in manual page come from his licence for lharc)
 His new web page seems to be www2s.biglibe.ne.jp/~yex/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the contact e-mail address for another
 software.  Page updated at least July/2001
 
 LHa   0.01-1.00:   Masaru Oki (LHa original author, 1991-1992)
 Suse.com list e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 LHa   1.10-1.14:   Nobutaka Watazaki (Last official release? 1993-1995)
 No e-mail available (Any idea?)
 
 Lha   1.14a-1.14e: Tsugio Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1996-2000)

 LHa   1.15 Recent one on NET

 LHA autoconf version:  Arai-san<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(2002)

All these people has some claim on copyright statement on source files.
lharc.c provides a good summary.  (Please use that for README.Debian)

Problem is there is no e-mail available for the first 3 primary authors.
They are asking to be contacted by e-mail but there is no mention.

Anyway, getting license corrected for old softwares is very difficult.




Note: By the way, patch with name mentioned are: 
 0.01-1.00
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rename.c -> utils.c)
  Takayuki Honma (time related stuff, lhadd.c)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Tokyo (EUC)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Minix patch)
These people's names except ishikawa do not exist in current source,
also lhadd.c which seems to be affected are marked as "source all
changed" by Watazaki. I would call them trivial contribution and do not
thin critical for copyright issue. Also in Makefile, there is mention on
# for OSK
# V1.08 1990.10.09  Sakura Tomozou
# V2.00 + lzhuf4/5  1990.10.26
but this is porting only and should not concern Debian.

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Re: Migration to /usr/share/doc

[Richard Braakman]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 10:48:13AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Perhaps I should use /usr/doc/ instead. Even shorter...

I have been a happy man since I made a /doc symlink.

Richard Braakman

PHP4 + Oracle

[Sobkowiak Krzysztof]

Hallo

I need to use oracle with php4 on Debian? How can I do it? Could
somebody [help me] build php4-oracle package?
Thanks

K. Sobkowiak

Re: unsubscribe mikael.petersson@lovelace.d2g.nu

[Gerd Flaig]

Gerd Flaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [ unsubsribe instructions ]

sorry, that wasn't meant to got to the list. The mail2news gate
mangles the reply-to header and I was a little tired this morning so I
didn't notice that it went to the list instead of the original poster
until a kind person pointed the error out to me.

I apologize.

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testing script

[Michael Meskes]

Hi,

I was just told the script updating testing doesn't run at the moment.
Is that true? If so, is there a reason? Are we already in freeze? :-)

Michael
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Re: New package netfilter-init to experimental?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Marc Haber wrote:
> machine takes seven minutes to build a new rule set. It is so slow
> because everything is implemented as shell scripts. There are plans to
> convert the significant part of code to C++ and to use iptables
> --restore to establish the rule set instead of issueing bazillions of
> iptables calls.

Well, have a look on ipmasq, it uses shell scripts, and I find it to be
"fast enough"...

Yes, your package is good enough for experimental, but it makes little sense
to upload there unless you are going to publically encourage people to use
it...

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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OpenLDAP with TLS support

[Torsten Landschoff]

Hi *, 

For those who don't read long mails: Please test the ldap packages at

http://www.ifg.uni-kiel.de/~torsten/preview/


I am about to upload new openldap packages with TLS support as requested
frequently. Since it seems like in the short run there will be no
libssl0.9.6 in base (or exim build without ldap) we did the following:

- Build OpenLDAP with and without ssl
- Make binary packages from the ssl version with one exception: libldap2
- libldap2 is from the non-ssl build and does not support TLS
- There is libldap2-tls with TLS built in which can be installed on top
  of libldap2. It diverts the libraries without TLS and replaces them
  with the TLS supporting libs

Most of this work was done by Roland Bauerschmidt. I only added the hack
to divert the libraries to get around without versioned provides (dpkg 
still does not support that, does it?).

This is an intermediate solution. In the long run I want to support only
OpenLDAP with TLS. But this way you can play with TLS and I can lean back
for a moment :)

For the final solution I would like to change exim that the lookup methods
are split of to dynamic objects which can be dlopen'ed at runtime. I am
going to propose a patch to make that happen. That way exim in base can
do without ldap support.

So, please check out the packages at www.ifg.uni-kiel.de/~torsten/preview. 
I would like to hear about any problems.

Thanks

Torsten (OpenLDAP maintainer)


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Re: New package netfilter-init to experimental?

[Alexander Zangerl]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:47:41 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
>Well, have a look on ipmasq, it uses shell scripts, and I find it to be
>"fast enough"...

ipmasq is very nice, but it *is* a bit slow on my sparcstation 1+.
(now don't get me wrong: almost everything is, on that box)

an alternative which seems to use a slightly different but also very
nice (and most probably faster) approach is 'ferm'.

regards
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Re: OpenLDAP with TLS support

[Junichi Uekawa]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:42:27 +0200
Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - There is libldap2-tls with TLS built in which can be installed on top
>   of libldap2. It diverts the libraries without TLS and replaces them
>   with the TLS supporting libs
> 
> Most of this work was done by Roland Bauerschmidt. I only added the hack
> to divert the libraries to get around without versioned provides (dpkg 
> still does not support that, does it?).

One thing I am worried about this is: are they really compatible ?

Using objdump -T to look at it,
ldap_pvt_tls_get_peer and other things that are ldap_*_tls_*
seems to be defined only on the TLS version, and not on the
other version. 



regards,
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How to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your debian/rules

[Junichi Uekawa]

On 27 Aug 2002 13:03:15 +0100
Philip Blundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > It should probably be LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whatever:$${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
> 
> Even better, something like
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:}whatever.
> 
> It's generally not desirable to introduce null path components into
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH if it was unset before, see #152099 for example.
> 

Hmm.. there are quite a few packages which already do something like it,
I'll cc -devel so that this will get more coverage.


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[ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Igor Genibel]

Hi all,

I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).
Now you, developers, can track  all  the  informations  about  all  your
packages such as:
- the pts related page about packages (Thanks a lot to Raphaël Hertzog);
- the section;
- the priority;
- the number of opened bugs (All, RC, ...);
- the different package  versions  for  each  branch  (stable,  testing,
  unstable, experimental);
- the different binary package pages;
- the archs where packages are not installable on each branch;
- the pool;
- the broken dependencies for each branch (stable, testing, unstable).

These are all the informations about package.
You can also have some informations about about you, developer:
- the gpg key;
- a link for all bugs related to you;
- a link for all RC bugs related to you;
- a link for all bugs you submited;
- a link for your lintian reports;
- a link for your buildd reports.

You can access this «tools» different ways.
By maintainer e-mail address:
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Dennis Schoen]

Hi Igor,

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:24:57PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).
> 
> I waiting for you comments, advices, insults or other things.
Many thanks for your effort, you've created a really nice tool.

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Re: Bug#158459: How to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your debian/rules

[Carlos O'Donell]

> > > It should probably be LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whatever:$${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
> > Even better, something like
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:}whatever.
> > It's generally not desirable to introduce null path components into
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if it was unset before, see #152099 for example.
> 
> Hmm.. there are quite a few packages which already do something like it,
> I'll cc -devel so that this will get more coverage.
> 

I thought that the whole purpose of the "-r" flag to dpkg-buildpackage
was to get around this sillyness?

In general I run "dpkg-buildpackage  -rfakeroot"

How many ways are there to skin a cat? ;)

c.

Packages for adoption

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Hola amigos,


Due to my constraints in life, I could not maintain a number of packages
properly. So here are packages up for adoption :

coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.


I will now maintain a couple of Thai related packages.

cheers,

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Re: Bug#158459: How to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your debian/rules

[Junichi Uekawa]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:36:09 -0400
"Carlos O'Donell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > > It should probably be LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whatever:$${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
> > > Even better, something like
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:}whatever.
> > > It's generally not desirable to introduce null path components into
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if it was unset before, see #152099 for example.
> > 
> > Hmm.. there are quite a few packages which already do something like it,
> > I'll cc -devel so that this will get more coverage.
> > 
> 
> I thought that the whole purpose of the "-r" flag to dpkg-buildpackage
> was to get around this sillyness?

That's a different matter, isn't it?

regards,
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Junichi Uekawa]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:24:57 +0200
Igor Genibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - the number of opened bugs (All, RC, ...);
> - the broken dependencies for each branch (stable, testing, unstable).

This is simply, great. Good work!

It would really be nice if it is possible to know if there are any logs with 
build failure in the buildd link,
but it probably needs more work on the buildd page side?


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Daniel Burrows]

  Hm, am I supposed to get hundreds of kilobytes of this?

Warning:  Compilation failed: nothing to repeat at offset 9
 in /home/igenibel/public_html/html.php on line 349
 
 Warning:  Compilation failed: nothing to repeat at offset 9
 in /home/igenibel/public_html/html.php on line 349

  ...

  Look nice, aside from that.

  Daniel

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:24:57PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).

OK, things seem to have suddenly got quite a lot more nifty while I
wasn't watching. Thanks!

I notice one slight glitch; following a PTS link to a lib* package takes
you to e.g. http://pts.debian.net/l/libfilter-perl.html when it should
take you to http://pts.debian.net/libf/libfilter-perl.html. Otherwise
it's behaving excellently.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Decklin Foster]

Igor Genibel writes:

> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)

I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in
stable and testing, but there is no such version of that package.
According to madison 1.2.0-1 is installed in all 3 dists.

Otherwise, looks great. Thanks for your work!

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Re: apt-get wants to upgrade package to same version?

[Scott James Remnant]

On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 06:21, Brian May wrote:

> I suspect this is a more general problem with apt-get that it assumes
> that if two versions of the same package are available from different
> sources, then both packages will be exactly the same. As such, it will
> always use the Packages entry from the first Packages file it finds,
> because it assumes the other entries will be the same anyway.
> 
That isn't what apt-get is doing.

The pins are used to determine which of all the available versions for
the package are candidates for installation, in Ludovic's case both the
woody and unstable versions are candidates (both have pin > now).

Once that's done, you have a list of candidate versions.  First the
highest version will be selected, in Ludovic's they both have the same
version, so they're both selected.

Now the version listed first in the sources.list is selected, because
that's your most preferred source.

There's no assumption going on here about the content of the package,
it's simply selecting which of the available packages you mean it to
download.

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Re: Packages for adoption

[Federico Di Gregorio]

Il mar, 2002-08-27 alle 14:50, Chanop Silpa-Anan ha scritto:
> Hola amigos,
> 
> 
> Due to my constraints in life, I could not maintain a number of packages
> properly. So here are packages up for adoption :
> 
> coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
> libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
> muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.

i'll take the following one ifno one objects:

hyperlatex
freefont
sharefont

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Daniel Silverstone]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:36:12AM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> Igor Genibel writes:
> > I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in

Also, if you search for my GPG key id (20687895) then I get a listing of my
packages and also those maintained by [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've had issues of
my being mistaken for Daniel Stone in the past, and I don't appreciate it :)
(Neither does he I should imagine :)

No idea why this should be happening, but I thought you'd like to know

D.

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Re: OpenLDAP with TLS support

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:18:43PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:42:27 +0200
> Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > - There is libldap2-tls with TLS built in which can be installed on top
> >   of libldap2. It diverts the libraries without TLS and replaces them
> >   with the TLS supporting libs

> > Most of this work was done by Roland Bauerschmidt. I only added the hack
> > to divert the libraries to get around without versioned provides (dpkg 
> > still does not support that, does it?).

> One thing I am worried about this is: are they really compatible ?

> Using objdump -T to look at it,
> ldap_pvt_tls_get_peer and other things that are ldap_*_tls_*
> seems to be defined only on the TLS version, and not on the
> other version. 

Doesn't "pvt" mean "private"?  If it's not a public interface, it should
not be an issue.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Jérôme Marant]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:43:29PM +0100, Daniel Silverstone wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:36:12AM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> > Igor Genibel writes:
> > > I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> > I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in
> 
> Also, if you search for my GPG key id (20687895) then I get a listing of my
> packages and also those maintained by [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've had issues of
> my being mistaken for Daniel Stone in the past, and I don't appreciate it :)
> (Neither does he I should imagine :)

Of course, you're the silver version :)

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Steve Langasek]

Hi Igor,

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:24:57PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:

> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).

The site looks great!  One request, is it possible to add submit buttons
for each of the various forms on the page?  At first glance, it is not at
all obvious to me that the one submit button on the page has nothing to
do with the box where I typed in my email address. :)

Cheers,
Steve Langasek
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Re: Packages for adoption

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi all,

Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
> Due to my constraints in life, I could not maintain a number of packages
> properly. So here are packages up for adoption :
> 
> coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
> libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
> muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.

I took muttprint and will upload a new package soon...

Regards,

Rene

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Igor Genibel]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:11:40PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> OK, things seem to have suddenly got quite a lot more nifty while I
> wasn't watching. Thanks!

Thanks a lot to.

> I notice one slight glitch; following a PTS link to a lib* package takes
> you to e.g. http://pts.debian.net/l/libfilter-perl.html when it should
> take you to http://pts.debian.net/libf/libfilter-perl.html. Otherwise
> it's behaving excellently.

This fixed now.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:36:12AM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:
> Igor Genibel writes:
> > I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> 
> I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in
> stable and testing, but there is no such version of that package.
> According to madison 1.2.0-1 is installed in all 3 dists.

Looks like confusion with aewm++, which in turn seems to provoke the bug
Daniel Burrows mentioned, so there's probably some additional regexp
metacharacter escaping needed somewhere.

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Re: testing script

[Anthony Towns]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:40:09PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> I was just told the script updating testing doesn't run at the moment.
> Is that true? If so, is there a reason? Are we already in freeze? :-)

It's running, but it's not doing any good. There's a new version of glibc
in unstable that everything's building against, but that has RC bugs
blocking it from entering testing, and has done for almost three weeks...

Cheers,
aj

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Igor Genibel]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:08:44AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>   Hm, am I supposed to get hundreds of kilobytes of this?

Surely not ! ;)

> Warning:  Compilation failed: nothing to repeat at offset 9
>  in /home/igenibel/public_html/html.php on line 349
>  
>  Warning:  Compilation failed: nothing to repeat at offset 9
>  in /home/igenibel/public_html/html.php on line 349

It is now fixed (regexp with ++ in vars...)

>   Look nice, aside from that.

Thanks.
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RE: Packages for adoption

[STOJICEVIC Edi EXPSIA]

> Due to my constraints in life, I could not maintain a number of packages
> properly. So here are packages up for adoption :
> 
> coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
> libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
> muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.

Hi,

Can someone tell me what these packages are about :

coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi ? 

Sorry but I don't have internet here :(

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Peter Palfrader]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Igor Genibel wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).
> Now you, developers, can track  all  the  informations  about  all  your
> packages such as:

> - the broken dependencies for each branch (stable, testing, unstable).

You could link to debcheck only if the package in question does have an
entry there.

Fetch http://qa.debian.org/~weasel/debcheck-result/sid/lists/ALL-pkglist
(and sarge and woody) daily and look whether the package is listed in
it.

yours,
peter

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Re: OpenLDAP with TLS support

[Torsten Landschoff]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:18:43PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
 
> Using objdump -T to look at it,
> ldap_pvt_tls_get_peer and other things that are ldap_*_tls_*
> seems to be defined only on the TLS version, and not on the
> other version. 

pvt -> private. I don't think a user application is allowed to use 
them. slapd certainly does and needs the TLS version of the lib.

cu
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 10:10:26PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> It would really be nice if it is possible to know if there are any logs with 
> build failure in the buildd link,
> but it probably needs more work on the buildd page side?

Last year (!) I write a patch for the buildd log page and sent it to
that page maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC), the patch wasn't tested
because I was unable to test it by myself due to lack of permissions.

That patch was supposed to show in red build log finished up with
failures.

If needed I can try to find it ...

Cheers.

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Re: Packages for adoption

[Aurélien Beaujean]

Le mardi 27 août 2002 à 22:50, Chanop Silpa-Anan écrivait:
> coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
> libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
> muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.

As Rene took muttprint, i took latex2html and i will also upload a new
package soon.

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Re: Packages for adoption

[Indra Kusuma]

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:

# Hola amigos,
#
#
# Due to my constraints in life, I could not maintain a number of packages
# properly. So here are packages up for adoption :
#
# coriander, cpuburn, gscanbus, gsumi, hyperlatex, latex2html,
# libdc1394-8, libdc1394-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs,
# muttprint, type1inst, freefont, and sharefont.

im interesting on cpuburn pkg

Cheers,

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Michael Piefel]

Am 27.08.02 um 15:03:31 schrieb Colin Watson:
> > I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in
> > stable and testing, but there is no such version of that package.
> > According to madison 1.2.0-1 is installed in all 3 dists.
> Looks like confusion with aewm++, which in turn seems to provoke the bug
> Daniel Burrows mentioned, so there's probably some additional regexp
> metacharacter escaping needed somewhere.

Yes, very similar problem for kimwitu and kimwitu++. Sorry for the weird
package names, but that's the names from upstream![1]

Bye,
Mike

[1] However, I also happen to be upstream for kimwitu++.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Igor Genibel]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:36:12AM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote:

Hi,

> I think I've found a bug: aewm is listed as having version 1.0.16-3 in
> stable and testing, but there is no such version of that package.
> According to madison 1.2.0-1 is installed in all 3 dists.

It is now fixed. As Colin said, it was a regexp problem. Thanks

> Otherwise, looks great. Thanks for your work!

Thanks a lot.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Igor Genibel]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 05:18:58PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > Looks like confusion with aewm++, which in turn seems to provoke the bug
> > Daniel Burrows mentioned, so there's probably some additional regexp
> > metacharacter escaping needed somewhere.
> 
> Yes, very similar problem for kimwitu and kimwitu++. Sorry for the weird
> package names, but that's the names from upstream![1]

This is now fixed.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Michael Piefel]

Am 27.08.02 um 14:24:57 schrieb Igor Genibel:
> - the number of opened bugs (All, RC, ...);

Either I don't understand the statistics, or it's not correct. For
instance, on http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php?login=nick you
can see there is 1 bug for the file package. But in fact there's dozens.
How come?

Salut,
Mike

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Dumb little utilities

[J. Scott Edwards]

Hello,

I have a compiler (based upon SmallEiffel) and a bunch of dumb little
utilites that I have been planning to make .deb files for.  But I don't
know if they have enough general appeal to make them official, or if I
should just make them and put them on my SourceForge project pages.  Does
anybody have any recommendations?

Thanks
  -Scott

Re: PHP4 + Oracle

[Rob Bradford]

On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 11:56, Sobkowiak Krzysztof wrote:
> Hallo
> 
> I need to use oracle with php4 on Debian? How can I do it? Could
> somebody [help me] build php4-oracle package?
> Thanks
> 

Can you not use ODBC and the libphp-adodb package?

Furthermore i'm interested as to why there are two packages called
libphp-adodb and libphp-phplot. Which seems to break with the php4-
naming scheme that the majority or packages used. Hence i have CC'ed the
maintainers. Of course there is merit in maintaining upstream namers,
but inconsistency isnt half confusing :(

Cheers

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Re: Dumb little utilities

[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 17:11, J. Scott Edwards wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a compiler (based upon SmallEiffel) and a bunch of dumb little
> utilites that I have been planning to make .deb files for.  But I don't
> know if they have enough general appeal to make them official, or if I
> should just make them and put them on my SourceForge project pages.  Does
> anybody have any recommendations?

Should you not describe them.  You haven't given much detail here, you
know...

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Joey Hess]

Igor Genibel wrote:
> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).

This is very nice. A few comments:

- It seems to think that analog 2:5.23-0woody1 is a NMU.
- On a 1280 pixel wide display, I can only see half of a line of the
  table at a time. Anything you can do to make it narrower would be
  useful. It might also be goo to duplicate the source name column half
  way accross the table or something, to make it easier to tell which
  package is which when looking at the right hand side of the graph.
  Similarly, it wouldn't hurt to repeat the column headings a few times
  since there are so many of them, and on my screen they go off the page
  when I get 17 packages down the list.

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Re: testing script

[Bdale Garbee]

aj@azure.humbug.org.au (Anthony Towns) writes:

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:40:09PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > I was just told the script updating testing doesn't run at the moment.
> > Is that true? If so, is there a reason? Are we already in freeze? :-)
> 
> It's running, but it's not doing any good. 

Actually, I'd like to point out that I think it *is* doing good... in that
it is providing exactly the distinction between unstable and testing that
it was designed to provide...

I'm sure most of you realize exactly what Anthony was really saying, which 
is that many things aren't promoting from unstable to testing right now 
because glibc is hung up... but I want to make sure his casual use of "not 
doing any good" is taken in appropriate context... :-)

Bdale

Re: PHP4 + Oracle

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:16:19PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 11:56, Sobkowiak Krzysztof wrote:
> > Hallo
> > 
> > I need to use oracle with php4 on Debian? How can I do it? Could
> > somebody [help me] build php4-oracle package?
> > Thanks

> Can you not use ODBC and the libphp-adodb package?

> Furthermore i'm interested as to why there are two packages called
> libphp-adodb and libphp-phplot. Which seems to break with the php4-
> naming scheme that the majority or packages used. Hence i have CC'ed the
> maintainers. Of course there is merit in maintaining upstream namers,
> but inconsistency isnt half confusing :(

I believe the 'php4' prefix is specific to packages that are derived from
the php4 source package; AFAIK, most of the PHP-related packages that
come from other sources do not share this prefix.

I would prefer not to see package names encode the version information of
*other* packages.  libphp-adodb seems quite reasonable to me.

As for using ODBC with Oracle, does Oracle ship an ODBC driver for Linux?

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Bug#158507: ITP: statslog -- An IRC Channel Logger

[Chris Mason]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-27
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: statslog
  Version : 2.0.7
  Upstream Author : Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.k-rad.org/bin
* License : GPL
  Description : An IRC Channel Logger

A utility to log IRC channels which logs in Irssi format. It supports logging 
multiple channels on multiple servers at the same time. It also supports log 
rotating and supports a crontab style log rotating format which can be defined 
for each channel separately. You can also let statslog connect to a server on a 
Virtual Host which allows it to have it's own custom hostname.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: sparc
Kernel: Linux hantu 2.2.20 #1 Sun Apr 7 00:28:48 BST 2002 sparc
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

-- no debconf information

Re: Accepted vim 6.1.165-1 (i386 source)

[Branden Robinson]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:47:22PM -0400, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>  vim (6.1.165-1) unstable; urgency=low
>  .
>* Change priority to extra











"CLEAR!"



"AGAIN!  CLEAR!"





Why, God, why?

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Re: PHP4 + Oracle

[Jeremy T. Bouse]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:46:02PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:16:19PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote:
> > Furthermore i'm interested as to why there are two packages called
> > libphp-adodb and libphp-phplot. Which seems to break with the php4-
> > naming scheme that the majority or packages used. Hence i have CC'ed the
> > maintainers. Of course there is merit in maintaining upstream namers,
> > but inconsistency isnt half confusing :(
> 
> I believe the 'php4' prefix is specific to packages that are derived from
> the php4 source package; AFAIK, most of the PHP-related packages that
> come from other sources do not share this prefix.
> 
> I would prefer not to see package names encode the version information of
> *other* packages.  libphp-adodb seems quite reasonable to me.
> 

As the package maintainer for libphp-phplot MY decision to use
this naming as opposed to php4-phplot was the code works with PHP3 and
PHP4 to my knowledge so why label it php4-phplot then... It also follows
the same line as libapache-* which don't make a distinction in name for
which version of Apache that is where Depends come in... 

While we're talking about this why don't we mention php4-pear
which is the PEAR collection that is in the PHP4 source... There are
also many other PEAR modules for PHP, some of which I am thinking of
packaging as I use them. These for the most part work on PHP3 and PHP4
so how do we want to recommend naming them?

Case in point of one that I actually am seriously considering
packaging is the DB_DataObject PEAR module. It gets install'd in
/usr/share/pear/DB/DataObject... My thought is to follow the direction
PERL has gone and thus name it libdb-dataobject-pear. There is also a
DB_ado PEAR module which following this naming could be libdb-ado-pear.

Now there is one caveat to this, and that is there may need to
be some work done on the PHP packages to make building the PEAR packages
possible as I've had to make changes locally to install them because of
deficiencies in the PHP packages. Also there is an update to PEAR itself
which would have the potential of conflicting completely with the
current php4-pear package.

Respectfully,
Jeremy T. Bouse


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Re: PHP4 + Oracle

[Thorsten Sauter]

Hello,


On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:56:38PM +0200, Sobkowiak Krzysztof wrote:
> Hallo
> 
> I need to use oracle with php4 on Debian? How can I do it? Could
> somebody [help me] build php4-oracle package?
> Thanks

I have created a simple package based on the latest php4-packages from
testing. This package insert oracle and oci8 support to php4 like the
php4-mysql package does.

There is also an oracle package for perl-dbi available.

If you're interesst, let me know.

Bye
Thorsten


-- 
Thorsten Sauter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Accepted vim 6.1.165-1 (i386 source)

[Joey Hess]

Branden Robinson wrote:
> >* Change priority to extra
> 
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> "CLEAR!"
> 
> 
> 
> "AGAIN!  CLEAR!"
> 
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> 
> Why, God, why?

Cause you need an exotic peice of hardware called a "teletype" or "CRT"
or "LCD" to use it, I suppose. Or maybe it's that "qwerty keyboard"
thing.

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Re: Accepted vim 6.1.165-1 (i386 source)

[Chris Lawrence]

On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 14:32, Joey Hess wrote:
> Cause you need an exotic peice of hardware called a "teletype" or "CRT"
> or "LCD" to use it, I suppose. Or maybe it's that "qwerty keyboard"
> thing.

Perhaps it's the "conflicts with something that is standard or higher"
rule in action... although I'm not entirely sure why it would conflict
with elvis-tiny etc. (that's why we have alternatives, after all).


Chris
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Bug#158543: RFA: python-pgsql -- A Python DB-API 2.0 interface to PostgreSQL v7.x

[Kevin Lindsay]

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Probably being the most common reason, lack of time or commitment. I know
people are still using this package, such me, so hopefully someone can adopt
it that will keep it updated better than I can.

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Debian Developer
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Bug#158548: ITP: ocamldsort -- A dependency sorter for OCaml source files

[Dimitri Ara]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

  Package name: ocamldsort
  Version : 0.12
  Upstream Author : Dimitri Ara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  URL : http://dimitri.mutu.net/files/ocamldsort-0.12.tar.gz
  License : GPL
  Description : A dependency sorter for OCaml source files

  The ocamldsort command scans a set of Objective Caml source files
  (.ml and .mli files) and sort them according to their dependencies
  in order to link their corresponding .cmo files.

Re: apt-get wants to upgrade package to same version?

[Brian May]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:36:39PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> The pins are used to determine which of all the available versions for
> the package are candidates for installation, in Ludovic's case both the
> woody and unstable versions are candidates (both have pin > now).

In my case, though one PIN is -1 The other PIN is 700.

The entry with the PIN of -1 is wrong, but it is obvious that apt-get
must be using it somehow, as then entry with the PIN of 700 is
identical.

The -1 entry isn't even installable on my system, it requires
the latest version of libc6 which I do not have installed on my
system.

If apt-get was ignoring the PIN entry of -1 like it should, there would
be no reason for it to reinstall those packages again.

When apt-get does install the package, it correctly uses the PIN=700
entry. It is only when apt-get checks to see if it needs to be
reinstalled, it somehow gets this wrong. It then proceeds to reinstall
the same version again.

> Once that's done, you have a list of candidate versions.  First the
> highest version will be selected, in Ludovic's they both have the same
> version, so they're both selected.
> 
> Now the version listed first in the sources.list is selected, because
> that's your most preferred source.

errr I already said that the first entry in ***my*** sources.list
has a PIN of -1. Why do I feel like I am going around in circles here?

> There's no assumption going on here about the content of the package,
> it's simply selecting which of the available packages you mean it to
> download.

I think you are mistaken.

Even if apt-get could select the correct package entry correctly, there
is still the problem that both packages would have the same name and
apt-get would try to store them both in the one directory.

Even if apt-get did everything correctly, you still might have the
problem of caches along the way getting confused.

Which is probably a more fundemental flaw in Debian, as it has no
concept of namespaces, or that various versions of the one compiled
binary might exist. Currently if you modify the binary, you must also
modify to source to use a different version.
-- 
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Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?

[Tatsuya Kinoshita]

On August 27, 2002 at 2:28AM -0700,
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  LHa   0.01-1.00:   Masaru Oki (LHa original author, 1991-1992)
>  Suse.com list e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

He is one of the NetBSD developers.  His e-mail address is
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

>  LHa   1.10-1.14:   Nobutaka Watazaki (Last official release? 1993-1995)
>  No e-mail available (Any idea?)

I found his e-mail addresses as follows:

lha-1.14i/header.doc.euc

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ss.cs.meiji.ac.jp/Services/software_Sun4/lha114.html

  NIFTY-Serve JBD02514
  E-Mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (1995-01-14)

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA004111/file/rcpsd057.htm

  96/11/18
  ALICE-NET   ALS00595Nasty
  E-Mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  E-Mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/~poffice/news/fj.os.bsd.freebsd/3527

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nobutaka Watazaki)
  Date: 2 Oct 1997 01:18:19 GMT

-- 
Tatsuya Kinoshita

Re: Accepted vim 6.1.165-1 (i386 source)

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> Why, God, why?

Well.. I wanted to get rid of those annoying priority override messages
from dinstall. Of course I overdid it by making all vim packages
priority extra: ftpmaster lists vim and vim-ruby as priority optional.

I have no idea what made them decide vim-ruby is special, but I already
updated my sources to make vim priority optional again.

Wichert.

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Unreadable packages in dak queue

[Philippe Troin]

Is there any reason why the packages in the dak queue (for example
/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/new on ftp-master) are 660 instead of 664 ?

Phil.

can a non developper become a debian maintainer ?

[Rémi Letot]

Hi all,

I have a simple question : can a non developper type become a debian
maintainer ? The reason is that I use debian on multiple servers and
workstations, and I'd like to contribute to the project. I'm
definitely not a developper, more a sysadmin. I know debian quite
well. I can also compile, install, and manage non packaged software,
and occasionnaly find and correct some small or obvious bugs. But I
couldn't really develop anything big, or tackle real big bugs (but
then these are more upstream's task than debian's).

I have been searching for something to do that would keep me committed
for a long time, which involves that I actually have a real use for my
contribution, and recently found it. I could start soon to use a
software package which is not yet packaged for debian. And to do
things cleanly, I would like to package it, and add it to debian.

Now is it worth applying as NM or is it completely out of touch with
reality ? If it turns out to be possible, I'll file an ITP, otherwise
an RFP :-)

Thanks for your input,
-- 
Rémi

Re: Unreadable packages in dak queue

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:26:15PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote:
> Is there any reason why the packages in the dak queue (for example
> /org/ftp.debian.org/queue/new on ftp-master) are 660 instead of 664 ?

Yep.  Export notification hasn't been sent for them, etc.  That's the
theory, at least.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer

Re: Unreadable packages in dak queue

[Philippe Troin]

Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:26:15PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote:
> > Is there any reason why the packages in the dak queue (for example
> > /org/ftp.debian.org/queue/new on ftp-master) are 660 instead of 664 ?
> 
> Yep.  Export notification hasn't been sent for them, etc.  That's the
> theory, at least.

Forgot that stupid detail.

Phil.

Re: can a non developper become a debian maintainer ?

[Russell Coker]

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:50, Rémi Letot wrote:
> I have a simple question : can a non developper type become a debian
> maintainer ? The reason is that I use debian on multiple servers and
> workstations, and I'd like to contribute to the project. I'm
> definitely not a developper, more a sysadmin. I know debian quite
> well. I can also compile, install, and manage non packaged software,
> and occasionnaly find and correct some small or obvious bugs. But I
> couldn't really develop anything big, or tackle real big bugs (but
> then these are more upstream's task than debian's).

There are many Debian packages that involve little or no serious programming, 
packages of scripts, packages of example files, packages of documentation.

If you can do some basic programming and the upstream author is very helpful 
then you'll be able to manage packages of serious programs too.

With one exception, for every package I maintain I've had to do new upstream 
development, and debugging of serious bugs that the upstream maintainer 
didn't have the time or the ability to do.  Being a good coder is a 
pre-requisite for maintaining all the packages I've ever maintained IMHO.

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>From field.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Josip Rodin]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:24:57PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> I have enhanced the ddpo  (http://people.debian.org/~igenibel/index.php)
> following all the request you made me (especially Yann Dirson).
> Now you, developers, can track  all  the  informations  about  all  your
> packages such as:
> - the pts related page about packages (Thanks a lot to Raphaël Hertzog);

Man, these two things really rock :) Need to get them somewhere under
.debian.org...

Although, I have one request -- please skip the ampersand in URLs like
'build.php?&pkg=foo', they are redundant and they waste bytes :)

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

[Josip Rodin]

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 03:51:11AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Although, I have one request -- please skip the ampersand in URLs like
> 'build.php?&pkg=foo', they are redundant and they waste bytes :)

On the same note, please add the missing / in pool URLs, to skip the
redirect and follow the spec, thus also conserving bytes :)

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Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default

[Miles Bader]

Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian,
> > in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI
> 
> The idea that devfs hardwires anything seems to be very popular.  It is
> also completely wrong.  You can use the userspace devfsd to transform
> the names however you like.

Um, it _does_ hardwire the names; the fact that you can apply additional
tools to correct them yourself doesn't change that -- you shouldn't
_have_ to do that in the normal case.

-Miles
-- 
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Re: Dumb little utilities

[J. Scott Edwards]

I guess I was worried that they are so trivial that any of the real
programmers on this list could recreate them in 5 minutes with sed, awk,
and perl. :)

But, well ok:

little endian hex dump
find a file within a file
duplicate file remover
tab and untab (I just discovered that this can be done with pr).
file renamer (that can change case).
file slicer (that can slice up a file into different size chunks).

display id3 tags in mp3 files
remove id3 tags in mp3 files
generate id3 tags from file name (probably not generally useful).
convert wave <--> raw audio files
examine wave/raw audio files and print stats
change amplitude of wave/raw audio files
adjust lead in/lead out of wave/raw audio files

There's a few others, but that is the general idea...

-Scott


On 27 Aug 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 17:11, J. Scott Edwards wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a compiler (based upon SmallEiffel) and a bunch of dumb little
> > utilites that I have been planning to make .deb files for.  But I don't
> > know if they have enough general appeal to make them official, or if I
> > should just make them and put them on my SourceForge project pages.  Does
> > anybody have any recommendations?
>
> Should you not describe them.  You haven't given much detail here, you
> know...
>
> --
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> Isle of Wight, UK
> http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
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>   sober, and watch unto prayer. And above all things
>   have fervent love among yourselves; for love shall
>   cover the multitude of sins."  I Peter 4:7,8
>
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