Re: Make python2.2 the python default

[Donovan Baarda]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 12:52:33AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 11:33:10PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:48:36PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > > > I'm planning to make python2.2 the python default version for unstable
> > > > next week (uploading the packages on 2002-08-28). Preliminary packages
> > > > can be found at
> > > > http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python/
> > > > Please send packaging problems with the packages to debian-python.
> > > Are these then going to propogate into testing in the normal manner (all
> > > dependencies met, no conflicts, no bugs etc)?
> > > I hope so :-)
> > 
> > Ha. Haha. Hahahahahaha.
> > 
> > (You're going to have to get _everything_ that has a "python-"
> > all in sync, including everything it depends on, with no RC bugs all at
> > the same time, and keep it that way for a week... Well, it's not quite that
> > bad, but it's close)

I realise that, I just wanted to make sure there were no special plans to
hold it back from testing.
 
> That's the price we have to be able use /usr/bin/python, not the
> versioned binary :-(

This is also the benefit... it can't go into testing until it's ready.

I think it would be possible for an updated python to drop into testing with
a handful of python- packages holding them back... just file an RC bug
against them saying they need to be upgraded, they vanish from testing, and
the updated stuff drops in.

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Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Peter De Wachter [Sat, Aug 24 2002, 01:25:54AM]:

> It has the following license:
> -- UNACE-SOURCE v1.2b (extract-util) --
> the source may be distributed and used, 
> but I,Marcel Lemke, retain ownership of
> the copyrights to the source.
> ---
> 
> I think this makes it non-free (it doesn't explicitly allow
> modifications), but it may help to figure out the algorithm.

Worse. I considered packaging it (*) but stopped after discussing the
license issue. You are only allowed to use the source, nothing is said
about the binary created. Looks like the qmail-src story.

(*) while extending the support in the unp 

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: png2/3 problem apparently successfully solved with -Bsymbolic

[Junichi Uekawa]

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:53:56 -0500

> >sing -Bsymbolic ensures that whenever the libpng library makes a call to
> one of its own functions, the symbol is resolved internally instead of to
> another version of libpng that's loaded.  This may account for a majority
> of the segfaults that people are seeing.  It does not affect how symbols
> are resolved when something /outside/ of libpng tries to call a function
> belonging to libpng.

I am yet to see a segfault caused by libpng[23].

regards,
junichi


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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

[Anthony DeRobertis]

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 16:08, Marc Singer wrote:

> Without a single example, I don't see how installing a configuration
> file where there is none can have *any* affect on the system.

Off the top of my head, try "ls -ld /etc/cron.* /etc/*.d" That should
give you a very incomplete list of directories in which it might happen.



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Re: Bug#158013: ITP: libevent-perl -- Generic Perl event loop

[Marcelo E. Magallon]

>> Steve Kowalik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >   URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JP/JPRIT

 Just a note, for CPAN modules it's much more useful if one provides a
 link to something like http://search.cpan.org/author/JPRIT/Event-0.86/.
 That gives you a link to the download page, access to other releases
 and to the documentation as well in a much friendlier format.

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Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

[Marcelo E. Magallon]

>> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 > While this shouldn't be a limit for what we package, we can't
 > increase its size indefinitely. This one of the reasons why the gnome
 > applets were put in a single package.

 I doubt that's really the case.  gnome-applets is a single package
 upstream[0] and it has little duplication.  I'd be *extremely* annoyed
 if asclock suddendly gets replaced by asclock + pclock + wmtime + ...
 because I use asclock.  On a multiuser system it makes sense to have
 all the others installed, but ignoring border cases, normal people have
 one clock on the desktop at most, so single user systems don't need
 more than package with one clock in it.

 [0] http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnome-applets; I'm sure there's a
 much better link elsewhere, but this serves the point.

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Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

[Anthony Towns]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 09:48:12AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  [...] but ignoring border cases, normal people have
>  one clock on the desktop at most, so single user systems don't need
>  more than package with one clock in it.

Ignoring border cases, a few kb here and there for some extra clocks is
*nothing*; spending extra time to find the right packages, or to maintain
the packages, otoh, can be a signficant cost.

Anyway, back to the pointless bickering.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?

[Richard Braakman]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:35:31AM +, Frank Copeland wrote:
> It remains to be seen how easy it is to port code written for a defunct
> proprietary (but supposedly ANSI-compliant) compiler on a vaguely
> unix-like but non-POSIX OS.

I would be happy to help with that, for what it's worth.  I don't
have experience with the platform in question, but I have experience
with ugly code.  The experience should be similar :-)

Richard Braakman

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Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

[Frank Lenaerts]

on Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 03:20:49PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about Re: 
Dock Apps packaging, round 2:

> I agree there is a problem with how we currently deal with our packages and 
> the archive.  But it is a techical problem requiring a technical solution.  
> Making a few bundle packages is just like putting a bandage on a gaping 
> wound.

Indeed, instead of creating work-arounds for a technical problem, the
root cause should be tackled. Moreover, solving this technical problem
should be easier than trying to produce another set of rules which
everybody agrees with.

Actually, the person doing the packaging itself should not even be
concerned about the Packages.gz file, because someone else is (or
should be) taking care of it.

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Re: Are libtool .la files in non-dev library packages bugs?

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:10:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Because of naivity of some programers. I suggest to begin getting rid of
> such kludges and forbid usage of .la files at runtimer in the Policy for
> Sarge.

Policy is not a stick to beat with.  If there is a bug, report it as such,
and leave it to the maintainer and upstream developers to fix it if in
doubt.

Thanks,
Marcus

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dpkg should prompt re missing conffiles [was Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root]

[Oliver Elphick]

On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 21:40, Steve Greenland wrote:
> While I'll grant you that "dangerous" is probably not the correct
> adjective, the current behaviour is correct. Debian policy is that
> packages don't override admin modifications to configuration files.
> Removing a file is a modification. End of story.

The problem is not that it doesn't override, which would not be
desirable, but that it doesn't flag a missing conffile during
upgrading.  Deletion of a file should be regarded as a change, and
should merit a question about whether the default package file should be
installed.

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Re: dpkg should prompt re missing conffiles [was Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root]

[Steve Greenland]

On 24-Aug-02, 09:48 (CDT), Oliver Elphick  wrote: 
> On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 21:40, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > While I'll grant you that "dangerous" is probably not the correct
> > adjective, the current behaviour is correct. Debian policy is that
> > packages don't override admin modifications to configuration files.
> > Removing a file is a modification. End of story.
> 
> The problem is not that it doesn't override, which would not be
> desirable, but that it doesn't flag a missing conffile during
> upgrading.  Deletion of a file should be regarded as a change, and
> should merit a question about whether the default package file should be
> installed.

It does. But you are asked about replacing only if *both* of the following
are true:

A. You've modified the conffile.
B. The maintainer has modified the conffile.

If only A is true, the conffile is left alone with no question. If only B is
true, then the conffile is replaced with no question.

Steve


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perl 5.6 dependent packages

[Joey Hess]

perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can
make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which
still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those
packages that were already NMU'd.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>grep-available -F depends perlapi-5.6 -s package
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package: libdigest-md2-perl
package: libberkeleydb-perl
package: libcflow-perl
package: libnet-rawip-perl
package: libplot-perl
package: libgnome-gnorba-perl
package: libsql-statement-perl
package: libapache-db-perl
package: libtext-csv-perl
package: libcurses-perl
package: libpcsc-perl
package: libstring-crc32-perl
package: libpsp-html-parser-perl
package: libauthen-sasl-cyrus-perl
package: libnet-patricia-perl
package: libopengl-perl
package: libapache-request-perl

And the following 24 which depend on libperl5.6:

package: gaim-gnome
package: gmoo
package: vim-perl
package: abiword-gtk
package: owl
package: entity
package: spidermonkey-bin
package: gnome-db
package: courier-mta
package: epic4
package: libpgperl
package: gaim
package: libapache-mod-perl
package: irssi-text
package: dchub
package: apache-perl
package: inn
package: abiword-gnome
package: xvile
package: inn2
package: vile
package: speedy-cgi-perl
package: bayonne
package: spidermonkey1

Updating most of these should be as simple as making a build-depends on
perl 5.8 so the autobuilders will build with the right version (may not
be necessary soon), and rebuilding, and testing. Anyone who has perl
code in the distribution should give it a run under perl 5.8, there are
various little gotchas and it would probably be good if we could catch
as many of those as possible before perl 5.8 enters testing. In general
it all works very well.

-- 
see shy jo

Bug#158059: ITP: metacity-themes -- Themes for the Gtk2 metacity window manager

[Mark Howard]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-24
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: metacity-themes
  Description : Themes for the Gtk2 metacity window manager

 This collection of themes for the metacity window manager has been carefully
 compiled from a number of sources. Each one is publically available under a
 license which complies with the Debian free software guidelines, most commonly
 the GPL license. The themes have been individually checked to ensure that they
 are all of high quality: they have a consistent design; include high quality
 graphics; and handle all types of window.
 .
 The themes have primarily been gathered from http://themes.freshmeat.net and
 http://sunshineinabag.co.uk. I would like to hear suggestion for other high
 quality themes to be included, however please be sure to read the
 /usr/share/doc/metacity-themes/README.Debian file first, as it documents 
reasons why a
 number of themes were not included. 


Initial packages for this are available at
http://tildemh.com/tmp/metacity-themes/
The package currently only includes three groups of themes - partially
due to the recent changes in the way themes are done in metacity. 

I am not yet a Debian developer; I am at the 'waiting for an AM' stage
of the NM process. So, if anyone's listening who has an interest in themes
or metacity, please volunteer to sponsor this package.

Problem with autobuilders installing python

[James A. Treacy]

All the autobuilders failed in building gramps 0.8.0-3 giving the
following:

Checking for source dependency conflicts...
  /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/apt-get --purge $CHROOT_OPTIONS -q -y install 
debhelper python-dev python-xml python-gnome python-glade docbook-utils 
scrollkeeper gettext
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  python-dev: Depends: python (>= 2.1) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: python (< 2.2) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: python2.1-dev (>= 2.1.3-5) but it is not going to be 
installed
  python-glade: Depends: python-gtk (= 0.6.9-3) but it is not going to be 
installed
  python-gnome: Depends: python-gtk (>= 0.6.9-3) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: python-gdk-imlib (>= 0.6.9-3) but it is not going to 
be installed
  python-xml: Depends: python (>= 2.1) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: python (< 2.2) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: python2.1-xml (>= 0.8-2) but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Sorry, broken packages
apt-get failed.
Package installation failed

This worked on every previous build of the package. The only change in
the Build-Depends is the addition of scrollkeeper and gettext.

Are the python packages screwed up? Do entire dependency chains need
to be specified for Build-Depends? What needs to be done to fix this?

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MAKEDEV Replacement status

[Don Armstrong]

I was just about to file a wishlist against makedev to get support for
dpti0 .. dptiX (adaptec i2o raid cards) added to MAKEDEV, but remembered that
there had been some talk in July about it's replacement.[1]

Could Andreas Salmon, Bdale Garbee, and Sean Perry comment on the
status of a replacement MAKEDEV if one is in the works? [Or point me
to relevant documentation?]

If not, I'll just file a bug w/ patch.


Don Armstrong

1: 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200207/threads.html#00270

-- 
Always try to do things in chronological order.
It's less confusing that way.

http://www.donarmstrong.com
http://www.anylevel.com
http://rzlab.ucr.edu


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Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

[Brendan O'Dea]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
>perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can
>make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which
>still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those
>packages that were already NMU'd.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>grep-available -F depends perlapi-5.6 -s package

Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were
previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency
on:

  libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl,
  libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl,
  libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl,
  liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl,
  libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl

needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to
depend on perl (>= 5.8.0).

[0] The 5.8.0 perl packages do provide these so un-versioned
dependencies are fine, dpkg/apt just don't support versioned
provides.

--bod

Re: MAKEDEV Replacement status

[Ian Zimmerman]

Don> I was just about to file a wishlist against makedev to get
Don> support for dpti0 .. dptiX (adaptec i2o raid cards) added to
Don> MAKEDEV, but remembered that there had been some talk in July
Don> about it's replacement.[1]

Don> Could Andreas Salmon, Bdale Garbee, and Sean Perry comment on the
Don> status of a replacement MAKEDEV if one is in the works? [Or point
Don> me to relevant documentation?]

Mine is still ready:

http://www.speakeasy.net/~itz/hacks/makedev_3.3-1.tar.gz

-- 
Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A.
GPG: 433BA087  9C0F 194F 203A 63F7 B1B8  6E5A 8CA3 27DB 433B A087
EngSoc adopts market economy: cheap is wasteful, efficient is expensive.

Re: Are libtool .la files in non-dev library packages bugs?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:10:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Because of naivity of some programers. I suggest to begin getting rid of
> > such kludges and forbid usage of .la files at runtimer in the Policy for
> > Sarge.
> 
> Policy is not a stick to beat with.  If there is a bug, report it as such,
> and leave it to the maintainer and upstream developers to fix it if in
> doubt.

It is also our best-practices document.  I certainly would expect policy to
tell us ("should") not to let libtool leave its crap behind.  This is not
using policy as a stick.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Brendan O'Dea wrote:
> Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were
> previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency
> on:
> 
>   libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl,
>   libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl,
>   libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl,
>   liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl,
>   libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl
> 
> needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to
> depend on perl (>= 5.8.0).

litian and linda checks for these, please!

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

New version of libphp-adodb

[Thorsten Sauter]

Hi all,

a new version of the libphp-adodb package is entered in unstable.
The version is based on the new adodb 2.31 version.

I have also change the path from /usr/lib/adodb to /usr/share/adodb/!

The following package is now broken, because it doesn't include the new
path:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep-available -F depends libphp-adodb -s package
package: acidlab



Please check your packages against this new version.


Bye
Thorsten


-- 
Thorsten Sauter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(Is there life after /sbin/halt -p?)



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Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

[Josip Rodin]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 02:14:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> We've _finally_ got lintian running over the archive again, and it looks like
> we'll have some chance of keeping it working. The URL is
> 
>   http://people.debian.org/~joy/
> 
> until lintian.debian.org gets updated to point at the right site.

As some may already have noticed, the above URL is no longer functional,
and http://lintian.debian.org/ is moderately up to date instead.

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Bug#158079: ITP: aseqview -- ALSA Sequencer Event Viewer

[Stefan Schwandter]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-25
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: aseqview
  Version : 0.1.4
  Upstream Author : Takashi Iwai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai/
* License : GPL
  Description : ALSA Sequencer Event Viewer

ASeqView is an ALSA sequencer user-client which works as event
viewer. It visualizes received events, e.g. note-on/off, controls,
pitch wheels, using bar graphs.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux TK150122 2.4.19 #1 Tue Aug 6 20:38:52 CEST 2002 i586
Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- no debconf information

Re: Some proposals about the Email-subsystem, was Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 07:08:31PM -0600, Georg Lehner wrote:
> El jue, 22-08-2002 a las 12:47, Roland Bauerschmidt escribió:
> ...
> - Opcional MTA's:
> 
> Not every system uses an MTA, in fact a wealth of end-user PC's (the
> mayority) would be just fine with local delivery, and eventually
> utilities to fetch mail from a remote box, and pipe a queue of messages
> to a remote server.
> 
> On the other hand there are various popular alternatives for MTA's so a
> general choice in a lot of cases fails.
> 
> Proposal: By default no MTA will be installed.

Umm, this may sound silly, but how will you do local delivery if there is no
MTA installed?

-- 
Martijn van Oosterhout  http://svana.org/kleptog/
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that can do binary
> arithmetic and those that can't.

libwww-perl

[Jack Howarth]

   Has anyone had any luck building libwww-perl against perl 5.80
yet? 
   Jack

Re: libwww-perl

[Clint Adams]

>Has anyone had any luck building libwww-perl against perl 5.80
> yet? 

Check http://ftp-master.debian.org/~bod/perl/pool/libw/libwww-perl/

Incidentally, the libdbi-perl there has a lower delta (1.1) than the one
in sid (2).

compiling clamav with pbuilder

[Brian May]

Hello,

Wehn compiling clamav in a woody chroot with pbuilder, I get
the following error:

Font metrics written on cmr10.tfm.
Output written on cmr10.720gf (128 characters, 28572 bytes).
Transcript written on cmr10.log.
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/spool/texmf/ls-R unwritable.
mktexpk: /var/spool/texmf/pk/ljfour/public/cm/cmr10.720pk: successfully 
generated.
<8r.enc>. [0] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] 
[6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] 
(cd docs && ps2pdf clamdeb.ps clamdeb.pdf)   
 Unable to open the initial device, quitting.
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 255
pbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package
 -> unmounting /proc filesystem
 -> unmounting /dev/pts filesystem
 -> cleaning the build env 

What is the problem here?

Why does ps2pdf need to open a device, and what device is it
trying to open?
-- 
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: MAKEDEV Replacement status

[Bdale Garbee]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Armstrong) writes:

> If not, I'll just file a bug w/ patch.

That's the right thing to do for now, regardless.

Bdale

Re: Some proposals about the Email-subsystem, was Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

[Georg Lehner]

Hello!

El sáb, 24-08-2002 a las 17:28, Martijn van Oosterhout escribió:
...
> > Proposal: By default no MTA will be installed.
> 
> Umm, this may sound silly, but how will you do local delivery if there is no
> MTA installed?
...

Not silly.  MDA's like procmail can do local delivery standalone.
Obviously no queue needed.

Haven't (still) done it myself however.

Regards,

Jorge-León

Re: libwww-perl

[Brendan O'Dea]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 09:56:05PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
>>Has anyone had any luck building libwww-perl against perl 5.80
>> yet? 
>
>Check http://ftp-master.debian.org/~bod/perl/pool/libw/libwww-perl/

Everything from that pool with the exception of libwww-perl was pushed
into unstable last night.  libwww-perl was omitted by request of Joey,
who made the NMU:

   "I've uploaded libwww-perl since a lot of stuff needed it, but it
fails some regression tests and should be kept out of the main
archive, please."

The current version fails one test.  There is a newer version (5.65)
available upstream which appears to build cleanly; the changelog reads:

Make HTTP::Date compatible with perl 5.8.

>Incidentally, the libdbi-perl there has a lower delta (1.1) than the one
>in sid (2).

Entrirely possible.  In any case that staging repository is now gone.

--bod

Re: libwww-perl

[Clint Adams]

> >Incidentally, the libdbi-perl there has a lower delta (1.1) than the one
> >in sid (2).
> 
> Entrirely possible.  In any case that staging repository is now gone.

I forgot to specify that -2 is built for 5.6.

Re: Some proposals about the Email-subsystem, was Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 10:10:24PM -0600, Georg Lehner wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> El sáb, 24-08-2002 a las 17:28, Martijn van Oosterhout escribió:
> ...
> > > Proposal: By default no MTA will be installed.
> > 
> > Umm, this may sound silly, but how will you do local delivery if there is no
> > MTA installed?
> ...
> 
> Not silly.  MDA's like procmail can do local delivery standalone.
> Obviously no queue needed.

Okay. I'm thinking specifically of cron here.  When it tries to send an
email it spawns /usr/sbin/sendmail to send it. This file will not exist
unless a mail server is installed. procmail is not interface compatable
with sendmail. Similarly MUAs like mutt, programs like at and debconf will
either use that program or connect to port 25.

What I'm saying is that to must have a mail-server install, even if it is
just ssmtp or something like that.

I hope this is clearer.
-- 
Martijn van Oosterhout  http://svana.org/kleptog/
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that can do binary
> arithmetic and those that can't.