Re: [WARNING] Broken libxml2 2.4.19-2 in unstable

2002-04-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa


> libxml2 2.4.19-2 in unstable is broken.

In fact, it sounds like any package which was built against it
might cause trouble with other version of libxml2.

The change was reverted in 2.4.19-3, but please check if 
bug reports on pingus etc. are valid.

The most important question is: do packages compiled against 
2.4.19-2 run with 2.4.19-3 ?


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Re: Bug#142705: pgi default configuration WIPES OUT whole filesystems without asking!!!

2002-04-14 Thread Andrea Mennucc

hi

first and foremost:
you should upload immediatly a new version which comments out the
 rm -rf
command: it is wy too dangerous to leave that out in the wild

then, here is some discussion

I think that CLEAN=1 should mean
'clean anything that pgi-build has created in the temporary directory'
and not 'rm -rf the whole of it (including the dir itself)'

I see you have a BASETMPDIR=TMPDIR/pgi-$$ (or similar)

that is a good idea: create any data in that, and , at the end,
if CLEAN=1, delete BASETMPDIR ; and, do not touch the OUT dir

a.

On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 06:08:04PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 08:09:47PM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote:
> > > Package: pgi
> > > Version: 0.9.6
> > > Severity: critical
> > > Justification: causes serious data loss
> > 
> > Just for the record: I got bitten by this, too.
> > (But I had a backup for most of the stuff :-)
> 
> I'm working on it; you can expect 0.9.6.2 today.
> 
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Bug#142817: ITP: dchub -- dchub is a DC (Direct Connect) hub clone

2002-04-14 Thread Grzegorz Prokopski
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-14
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: dchub
  Version : 0.0.9
  Upstream Author : Eric Prevoteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://ac2i.tzo.com/dctc/
* License : GPL
  Description : dchub is a DC (Direct Connect) hub clone

 Currently, it is a early stage version. The most useful features are
 already here. The following features are available.
 .
 User commands:
  * relay active and passive search query
  * relay passive search result
  * nick list and op list
  * public chat message
  * private chat message
  * get user info
  * relay active and passive transfer query
  * registered user supported
  * broadcast message
  * redirect one user (using chat command, not DC menu)
  * kick a user
  * temporary or permanently ban a user
  * Multiuser private chat (=more than 2
* users in a private chat)
 .
 Hub control:
  * registered user supported (==password support)
  * hub registration on DC hub list
  * max #users
  * redirect incoming users on hub full
  * Perl script support (some sample scripts are provided,
including a working one handling minimum share requirements)
  * external program support (allows write of programs  acting as virtual
  user on the hub)
  * hub network

It is simple package, but I want to polish it a bit before putting into
distro. It probably won't happen before woody. Early packages (not much
better than what You can get after running dh_make yourself) are at
http://debian.sente.pl/

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Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* christophe barbé 

| On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 11:02:15AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > * Manoj Srivastava 
| > 
| > |  David> 4) Posted the NEW public key (C5A76BF6) to the following:
| > |  David>   1) public keyservers
| > |  David>   2) debian-devel@lists.debian.org
| > |  David>   3) Main upstream source site for affected packages
| > | 
| > |   Have you done anything that I can't do as well right now? I
| > |  mean, I can download your old key, create a new one, and do all you
| > |  have outlined?
| > 
| > I would believe you don't have access to put material on
| > *.codecastle.com?
| 
| Tollef, do you consider write access to *.codecastle.com as a kind of
| authentification ?

I don't think I stated anything which could be interpreted in that
direction.  I was answering Manoj's question.

To answer you question: no, I do not consider write access to
*.codecastle.com as authentication.

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Bug #140769: frozen-bubble: RC bug

2002-04-14 Thread Rob Bradford
Package: frozen-bubble
Version: 0.9.2-9
Severity: critical

Frozen-bubble is holding up the release process as all the developers
are now hooked and are no longer working on woody, hence the RC status
as this package is single handedly holding the whole release process
back. 

Either the game is made less addictive or it should be removed until
after woody is released. 

The fate of the woody lies in your hands. =)
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Release Process Information on http://www.debian.org/ correct?

2002-04-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello,
Quoting http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-frozen
| 5.4 What about "frozen"?
| 
| When the testing distribution is mature enough, it becomes frozen,
| meaning no new code is accepted anymore, just bugfixes, if necessary.
| Also, a new testing tree is created in the dists directory, having a
| new codename. The frozen distribution passes through a few months of
| testing, with intermittent updates and deep freezes called `test
| cycles'.
| 
| We keep a record of bugs in the frozen distribution that can hold off
| a package from being released or bugs that can hold back the whole
| release. Once that bug count lowers to maximum acceptable values, the
| frozen distribution becomes stable, it is released, and the previous
| stable distribution becomes obsolete (and moves to the archive).

I am quite confident that the first paragrapgh is completly bogus, but
before I submit a bug against www.debian.org (which severity, I think
serious or important?) I wanted to ask for confirmation/information.

My understanding of the current release process:
1  Lets make a release, after ...[1] is resolved
2  freeze policy
while (bugsquashing) {
  3  release manager modifies testing-scripts, and doubles
 testing-periods (20 instead of 10 days for urgency=normal)
  4  Delete packages with rc-bugs from woody.
  
  5  Base has no rc-bugs and is frozen, i.e. testing-scripts won't
 forward any base packages from sid. (Updates for base packages
 targeted for woody have to be uploaded to woody-proposed-updates
 and are moved manually by the release manager, _if_ he accepts
 them)
  6  Standard has no rc-bugs and is frozen, i.e. testing-scripts won't
 forward any base packages from sid.
 (woody-proposed-updates-paragraph similar to 5)
  }
7  The release manager removes all remaining packages with open
   rc-bugs, waits two days, and calls it stable.

I am missing any information about bf, I assume I could duplicate 5
and s/base/bf/ ?

4 should probably placed in some while(), too, but iirc deletion of
packages has become more frequently.

I am really not sure about 7, but it is the only way I can think it
could be possible to release on 2002-05-01.
  thanks, cu andreas
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Re: Bug #140769: frozen-bubble: RC bug

2002-04-14 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rob Bradford wrote:
>Package: frozen-bubble
>Version: 0.9.2-9
>Severity: critical
>
>Frozen-bubble is holding up the release process as all the developers
>are now hooked and are no longer working on woody, hence the RC status
>as this package is single handedly holding the whole release process
>back.

Nice tautology.

>Either the game is made less addictive or it should be removed until
>after woody is released. 

There's a simple workaround.  Once you finish level 50 it gets very boring.

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Re: Bug #140769: frozen-bubble: RC bug

2002-04-14 Thread Michael Banck
tags 140769 +unreproducible
thanks

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:20:33PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> >Either the game is made less addictive or it should be removed until
> >after woody is released. 
> 
> There's a simple workaround.  Once you finish level 50 it gets very boring.

How on earth is robster supposed to get up to level 50? Have you seen
him playing?

This should work out for everybody else, though.

Michael

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Re: Release-critical Bugreport for April 12, 2002

2002-04-14 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 06:00:03AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote:
> Maintainer: Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   139515 [  H] aspell: FTBFS: SEGV in aspell during build (hppa/unstable)
> 

it seems a problem due to gcc 3.0 (the default on hppa). also on upstream
mailing list somebody reported problem looking like this one using a
gcc 3.0 on i386 IIRC. anyway i'm not able to proceed with further tests.

i'm not aware of anysolution nor workaround.

anybody willing to give a hand is very welcome.

cheers
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Re: Requesting for comments: automatically and mechanically obtaining shared library package names

2002-04-14 Thread Domenico Andreoli
hi Junichi,

i think this could well be an option for debmake or dh_make in order
to help build initial debian/control file

On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:32:50PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> 
> USAGE:
> 
> $ libinfodump.sh  /usr/lib/libdmachinemon.so.1.0.0
> Package: libdmachinemon1
> Section: libs
> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
> 
> Package: libdmachinemon1-dev
> Section: devel
> Depends: libpthread0-dev,libc6-dev
> 
> 
> For discussion on best-practice in library packaging, see
> http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html
> 

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Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Erich Schubert
I've been digging in my old PovRay stuff, and i played with an animation
i started a few years ago.
The result is quite nice i think (but some weird rendering bugs occur
here, like the Comet's tail disappearing during the first fly-through)

http://www.fachschaften.uni-muenchen.de/~erich/debian/woody.avi

Well, any suggestions? ;)

Gruss,
Erich Schubert

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Re: Requesting for comments: automatically and mechanically obtaining shared library package names

2002-04-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> hi Junichi,
> 
> i think this could well be an option for debmake or dh_make in order
> to help build initial debian/control file

This method actually requires an already-built result.
dh_make runs and scans the source files. The source has many
ways to express the sonames.

Something to possibly replace dh_makeshlibs, and 
dh_movefiles, I believe.


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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Hereward Cooper
Twas Sun, 14 Apr 2002 15:53:26 +0200, and Erich Schubert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> realized:

> I've been digging in my old PovRay stuff, and i played with an
> animation i started a few years ago.
> The result is quite nice i think (but some weird rendering bugs occur
> here, like the Comet's tail disappearing during the first fly-through)
> 
> http://www.fachschaften.uni-muenchen.de/~erich/debian/woody.avi
> 
> Well, any suggestions? ;)

That's really good!
It looks a bit like a potato though... not quite right for the woody
release? What about woody riding it? How long did it take to render?
I really should start doing PovRay animations rather than just pictures
:)


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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Erich Schubert may or may not have written...

> I've been digging in my old PovRay stuff, and i played with an animation i
> started a few years ago. The result is quite nice i think (but some weird
> rendering bugs occur here, like the Comet's tail disappearing during the
> first fly-through)

> http://www.fachschaften.uni-muenchen.de/~erich/debian/woody.avi

xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\

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Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 21:28, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:14:36PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> > > If you have troubles during the installation process, please report
> > > your problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Are people working on the dutch translation of the installation? If not,
> > I could do it.
>
> We still don't have anyone to update the Dutch translation of the web
> pages, which should be much less work than the installation manual...
>  

How much is it? If not too much (i.e. <3 hours) I'll do it...

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Re: Release Process Information on http://www.debian.org/ correct?

2002-04-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-frozen
> | 5.4 What about "frozen"?
> | 
> | When the testing distribution is mature enough, it becomes frozen,
> | meaning no new code is accepted anymore, just bugfixes, if necessary.
> | Also, a new testing tree is created in the dists directory, having a
> | new codename. The frozen distribution passes through a few months of
> | testing, with intermittent updates and deep freezes called `test
> | cycles'.
[...]
> I am quite confident that the first paragrapgh is completly bogus, but
> before I submit a bug against www.debian.org (which severity, I think
> serious or important?) I wanted to ask for confirmation/information.
[...]

This has been filed as bug #142801 against doc-debian, thanks to
Eduard Bloch.
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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread tony mancill
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Darren Salt wrote:

> xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\

FYI, aviplay (in the avifile-player package) plays the animation just
fine.



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dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread Sean Middleditch
Hi all,

 Just out of curiosity, should there be alternatives for
dialog/xdialog?  I mean, on my system, I'd rather have gdialog used
instead of xdialog (for GUI consistancy with my other apps, which are
95% gtk/gnome).

 For some scripts I've written, I've checked for X: if X exists, it
thens finds an X based dialog program (looks for gdialog, then xdialog,
then defaults to text dialog); if no X, then it just uses dialog.

 I'd imagine a lot of other scripts do similar, or just default to text
dialog, which can be inconvenient, espcially when launching said script
from a Window manager/desktop menu.

 So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an
alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to
"launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise," and
leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the
sysadmin?

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Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:19:20PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote:
> > > > If you have troubles during the installation process, please report
> > > > your problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Are people working on the dutch translation of the installation? If not,
> > > I could do it.
> >
> > We still don't have anyone to update the Dutch translation of the web
> > pages, which should be much less work than the installation manual...
> >  
> 
> How much is it? If not too much (i.e. <3 hours) I'll do it...

You have CVS access for the news items already, go check it out :)

The stats show 19 outdated files...
http://www.de.debian.org/devel/website/stats/nl.html

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Re: Bug #140769: frozen-bubble: RC bug

2002-04-14 Thread Rob Bradford
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 14:53, Michael Banck wrote:
> tags 140769 +unreproducible
> thanks
> 
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:20:33PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> > >Either the game is made less addictive or it should be removed until
> > >after woody is released. 
> > 
> > There's a simple workaround.  Once you finish level 50 it gets very boring.
> 
> How on earth is robster supposed to get up to level 50? Have you seen
> him playing?
> 
> This should work out for everybody else, though.
> 

I spent 4 hours playing it today, and only managed to get to level 45 :(
I had to stop as my hand was hurting too much and i physically couldn't
play any more

=)
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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Rob Bradford
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 17:46, Darren Salt wrote:
> I demand that Erich Schubert may or may not have written...
> 
> > I've been digging in my old PovRay stuff, and i played with an animation i
> > started a few years ago. The result is quite nice i think (but some weird
> > rendering bugs occur here, like the Comet's tail disappearing during the
> > first fly-through)
> 
> > http://www.fachschaften.uni-muenchen.de/~erich/debian/woody.avi
> 
> xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\
> 

Cant you at least use an open standard like MPEG-2

And then we can play it in applications which are allowed to distribute

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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
tony mancill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Darren Salt wrote:
> 
> > xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\
> 
> FYI, aviplay (in the avifile-player package) plays the animation just
> fine.

so does xine.

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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Mateusz Papiernik
> so does xine.
divx is better format than mpeg-2, because files compressed by divx
are very small with very preety quality.



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RFC: Packaging buildd

2002-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
The buildd source available from :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/CVS
(module wanna-build) does not have a functional debian directory.  I
have also not been able to contact the maintainers so far--is this
source actively maintained?

I have added autoconf/make support, and repackaged it using debhelper.
So far, the packages are built almost the same as the old version of
the packaging (but make is now used to install the files, rather than
copying every file manually), though I will change this.  I have added
a buildd init script, crontab and emacs install/remove scripts for
buildd-reply.el.

TODO:
sbuild is now available in Debian, so this package will have to be
removed, and some bits moved to the buildd package.
Sensible conffile locations e.g. under /etc/buildd.
Put some of the scripts under /usr/share//bin, e.g. in
wanna-build.
Write manpages--some are zero-length in CVS!!

Does anyone who uses buildd/wanna-build/rbuilder have any comments?  I
don't yet have a big enough HDD to run an autobuilder offline, so I
have not tried to use it yet.  I won't be able to do much more till
June, but I'll have plenty of time then to fix things.

The packaging is far from complete, but what I have done so far is
available from http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~rl117/buildd/
(source and i386 debs).

Regards,
Roger

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Re: Bug #140769: frozen-bubble: RC bug

2002-04-14 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:20:33PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> >Either the game is made less addictive or it should be removed until
> >after woody is released. 
> 
> There's a simple workaround.  Once you finish level 50 it gets very boring.

And yet, completing level 50 takes several hours.  If you're lucky.

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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:34:53PM +0100, Rob Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 17:46, Darren Salt wrote:
> > I demand that Erich Schubert may or may not have written...
> > 
> > > I've been digging in my old PovRay stuff, and i played with an animation i
> > > started a few years ago. The result is quite nice i think (but some weird
> > > rendering bugs occur here, like the Comet's tail disappearing during the
> > > first fly-through)
> > 
> > > http://www.fachschaften.uni-muenchen.de/~erich/debian/woody.avi
> > 
> > xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\
> 
> Cant you at least use an open standard like MPEG-2
> 
> And then we can play it in applications which are allowed to distribute

  I managed to play it with aviplay.  (without any win32 DLLs)
  It seems to be in main, so I hope we're allowed to distribute it!

  Daniel

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Re: Bug#142705: pgi default configuration WIPES OUT whole filesystems without asking!!!

2002-04-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:30:09AM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote:
> first and foremost:
> you should upload immediatly a new version which comments out the
>  rm -rf
> command: it is wy too dangerous to leave that out in the wild

Sorry, the machine I was testing the package release on decided to crash
(or someone unplugged its network cable).  I'll have to go into the
office and reboot it.

BTW, your characterization of this bug is misleading.  By *default*, PGI
creates its own subdirectory of $TMPDIR to use, so there is no risk of
losing data that PGI doesn't create in the first place.

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Bug#142901: ITP: med-tools -- Debian Med several tools

2002-04-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-14
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: med-tools
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : local file
* License : GPL
  Description : Debian Med several tools

This meta package will install tools for several purposes in health care.
Currently it just depends from mencal.


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Re: Release Process Information on http://www.debian.org/ correct?

2002-04-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Hello,
> Quoting http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-frozen
> | 5.4 What about "frozen"?

FAQ is slightly old and some contents are still for potato.  

Needs to be updated for woody.  Send in patch to CVS.  See more on
  http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp

As for bf2.4, recently install manual is improving and has some
description on:
  http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual

   `bf2.4'
   This is an experimental flavor which uses a special version of the
   kernel-image-2.4 package. It contains support for some new
   hardware parts which does not exist in the (more stable) other
   flavors. It supports more USB hardware, modern IDE controllers,
   Ext3 and Reiser filesystems. Compared to the driver set of our
   main kernel-image-2.4.x-yz packages, some non-essential drivers
   
  (http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html)
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Bug#142905: ITP: hotswap -- register/deregister hotswappable IDE hardware

2002-04-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-15
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: hotswap
  Version : 0.2.0
  Upstream Author : Tim Stadelmann
* URL : http://users.ox.ac.uk/~univ377/c600.html
* License : HTML
  Description : register/deregister hotswappable IDE hardware



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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Erich Schubert
> It looks a bit like a potato though... not quite right for the woody
> release? What about woody riding it? How long did it take to render?

If you make me a woody model for povray? Just a few spheres? ;)
That would be no problem...

The wood texture of the comet isn't too visible after the compression ;)

I was thinking about having the comet the form of the debian swirl.
But i'll need to find some converter to create this...

> I really should start doing PovRay animations rather than just pictures

You'll need to be good at math's to make smooth animations ;)

Gruss,
Erich Schubert

BTW: What is the best free video codec? MPEG-2 ? OpenDivX?
After all the movie should be playable with software contained in woody,
no non-US stuff that might have patent problems...

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Re: RFC: Packaging buildd

2002-04-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> Does anyone who uses buildd/wanna-build/rbuilder have any comments?  I
> don't yet have a big enough HDD to run an autobuilder offline, so I
> have not tried to use it yet.  I won't be able to do much more till
> June, but I'll have plenty of time then to fix things.

I'd say it would be a pretty painful process, and a bad idea, to
try and maintain a package of something that you have never used.

Well, this applies to every package.


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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 12:41:27AM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote:
> > It looks a bit like a potato though... not quite right for the woody
> > release? What about woody riding it? How long did it take to render?
> 
> If you make me a woody model for povray? Just a few spheres? ;)
> That would be no problem...

Perhaps we can ask the people at Pixar if they want to give back to
community and render us a small movie starring woody. After all, they
use Linux for the render farm, no?

But then, perhaps they sue us over the name, so this might be a bad
idea...

Michael

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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.15.0056 +0200]:
> Perhaps we can ask the people at Pixar if they want to give back to
> community and render us a small movie starring woody. After all, they
> use Linux for the render farm, no?

if you're serious about this, i even have a couple of contacts into
pixar. i *could* ask, you know... ;)

> But then, perhaps they sue us over the name, so this might be a bad
> idea...

nah, i doubt it. i'll talk to a good friend who works there. it's not
like they don't already know about debian's naming scheme...

i'll write an email to a couple of folks there tomorrow. asking never
hurts...

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contrib and installability in testing

2002-04-14 Thread Colin Watson
I've noticed that several packages from contrib are unable to get into
testing because (as allowed by policy's definition of contrib) they
depend on packages not in the distribution. I appreciate that this is a
bit of a pain to distinguish from normal uninstallable packages, but is
there any chance that some exceptions could be made? I'm thinking of
things like this:

trying: fop
skipped: fop (157+1)
got: 32+0: a-8:a-6:h-15:i-3
* i386: libfop-java

(missing j2sdk1.3 | j2se1.3 | java2-runtime)

trying: jakarta-jmeter  
skipped: jakarta-jmeter (149+1)
got: 32+0: a-8:a-6:h-15:i-3
* i386: jmeter

(missing j2sdk1.3)

trying: junit
skipped: junit (148+2)
got: 32+0: a-8:a-6:h-15:i-3
* i386: junit

(missing java2-runtime | j2re1.3)

There are probably some similar non-Java packages I've missed.

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Re: Debian Animation ;)

2002-04-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that tony mancill may or may not have written...

> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Darren Salt wrote:
>> xanim says that DIVX(44495658) is unsupported. :-\

> FYI, aviplay (in the avifile-player package) plays the animation just fine.

Bug 141319 (no dependency on libavifile0.6) bit... but yes, it's playable :-)

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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Sean Etc. writes:
> So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an
> alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to
> "launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise," and
> leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the
> sysadmin?

Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible?  I had pppconfig set up to use
gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog
kept breaking.
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Wasteful packaging

2002-04-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
As I'm sat waiting for my local mirror to update so I can get some
test DVD images created, I've been looking through some of the larger
packages that have been taking a while. We have some huge packages
that are wasting space on CDs for release and (more importantly)
mirrors and their bandwidth.

I've just posted a bug against evolution, this being the one that
first grabbed my attention. In my mirror currently are:

sledge:/mirror/debian/pool/main/e/evolution$ ls -l evolution_*
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users   14664 Mar 26 14:17 
evolution_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users1052 Mar 26 14:17 evolution_1.0.3-1.dsc
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users10100044 Mar 31 19:02 
evolution_1.0.3-1_alpha.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 9113060 Apr  3 23:32 
evolution_1.0.3-1_arm.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 8730930 Mar 26 14:17 
evolution_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 8701524 Apr  5 03:47 
evolution_1.0.3-1_m68k.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 917 Apr  3 06:47 
evolution_1.0.3-1_powerpc.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 8985026 Mar 30 14:17 
evolution_1.0.3-1_s390.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 9221054 Mar 31 19:02 
evolution_1.0.3-1_sparc.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users   14926 Apr 12 21:47 
evolution_1.0.3-2.diff.gz
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users1052 Apr 12 21:47 evolution_1.0.3-2.dsc
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users10100040 Apr 14 09:32 
evolution_1.0.3-2_alpha.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 8731152 Apr 12 21:47 
evolution_1.0.3-2_i386.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users11289000 Apr 14 06:17 
evolution_1.0.3-2_ia64.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 9169872 Apr 14 10:02 
evolution_1.0.3-2_powerpc.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users 8984576 Apr 14 08:32 
evolution_1.0.3-2_s390.deb
-rw-rw-r--1 mirror   users14843367 Mar 26 14:17 
evolution_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz

That's ~9MB per binary package, * 2 for the two versions in the
pool. Looking more closely at the current i386 package, unpacked:

sledge:~/debian/evolution$ du -s usr/*
3660usr/bin
6656usr/lib
12  usr/sbin
14548   usr/share

Over half of the installed package is made up of stuff in /usr/share,
i.e. common arch-independent stuff like images, templates and i18n
data. A quick check of other packages suggests that similar metrics
apply for gnumeric, gnome-applets2, konqueror, ...

We _really_ should be packaging things like this better - the common
stuff should go into binary-all packages with appropriate
dependencies!

Comments?

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Re: Wasteful packaging

2002-04-14 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 01:21:05AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> sledge:~/debian/evolution$ du -s usr/*
> 3660usr/bin
> 6656usr/lib
> 12  usr/sbin
> 14548   usr/share
> 
> Over half of the installed package is made up of stuff in /usr/share,
> i.e. common arch-independent stuff like images, templates and i18n
> data. A quick check of other packages suggests that similar metrics
> apply for gnumeric, gnome-applets2, konqueror, ...
> 
> We _really_ should be packaging things like this better - the common
> stuff should go into binary-all packages with appropriate
> dependencies!
> 
> Comments?
> 
Agreed.

Stuff the arch-indep stuff in an Architecture: all package, and watch the 
evolution package shrink from 9Mb to 3.

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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 20:03, John Hasler wrote:
> Sean Etc. writes:
> > So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an
> > alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to
> > "launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise," and
> > leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the
> > sysadmin?
> 
> Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible?  I had pppconfig set up to use
> gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog
> kept breaking.

Hmm, good point.  I haven't had a problem with xdialog or gdialog, but I
haven't used them extensively, either.

Perhaps bugs should be filed against them, for their lack of
compatibility, if indeed there are problems?

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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Sean Middleditch writes:
> Perhaps bugs should be filed against them, for their lack of
> compatibility, if indeed there are problems?

I filed a bug against gdialog (gnome-utils, to be exact) with a complete
set of patches a long, _long_ time ago.  I haven't looked at xdialog
lately.
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Bug#142932: ITP: globus -- Provides fundamental technologies to build computational grids

2002-04-14 Thread Otavio Salvador
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-14
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: globus
  Version : 1.1.4 and 2.0.0
  Upstream Author : Globus Project team (http://www.globus.org/about/team.html)
* URL : http://www.globus.org/
* License : Globus Toolkit Public License 
(http://www.globus.org/toolkit/download/license.html)
  Description : Provides fundamental technologies to build computational 
grids



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libusb and testing?

2002-04-14 Thread Ben Burton

Hi.. out of curiosity, does anyone know what's keeping the new libusb out of 
testing?  I can't find anything useful in update_excuses.html and I can't 
make sense of the lines in update_output.txt.

I ask because it seems to be holding a fair few things up (my particular 
concern is that it's holding up a newer kghostview which will stop every 
koffice app from crashing when you try to print preview).

Just wondering what remains to be done to let libusb 1:0.1.5-3 in.

Thanks - Ben.

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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
I wrote:
> I haven't looked at xdialog lately.

I just did.  It almost works.
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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 22:40, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > I haven't looked at xdialog lately.
> 
> I just did.  It almost works.

What, pray tell, doesn't work?  Also, since I wouldn't know what things
to test, how badly is gdialog broken?  There are no filed bugs on
gnome-utils regarding missing functionality (that I can find; I've been
known to be an idiot).

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Re: Wasteful packaging

2002-04-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> We _really_ should be packaging things like this better - the common
> stuff should go into binary-all packages with appropriate
> dependencies!

This is apt to break unless you are careful, and causes dependency loops.
Don't try to do it before woody. Don't expect every package to be
able to do it unless you can introduce some automatic scheme for
doing it automatically, without breaking something.




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Re: dialog alternatives

2002-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Sean Middleditch writes:
> What, pray tell, doesn't work?

The menus never show all the items even when there are only three (the
scrollbar works, though).  It messes up the text in menus that work fine
with dialog ('Properties of Provider', frex).  Try 'pppconfig --xdialog'.

> Also, since I wouldn't know what things to test, how badly is gdialog
> broken?

At the moment it cuts off the bottoms of my larger menus (and has no
scrollbar).  After half a dozen instances of having it suddenly break I
decided that I shouldn't subject the users to it as the default.  It is
still available via 'pppconfig --gdialog'.

> There are no filed bugs on gnome-utils regarding missing functionality...

I'm pretty busy with real life right now, but feel free to run 'pppconfig
--gdialog', observe the results, and file bugs with patches. 
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