Re: gpg and trustdb very slow

[Joey Hess]

Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:54:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Has anyone else noticed that using gpg with debian-keyring 2001.09.03
> > results in excessively slow trustdb-related things? 
> 
> This is exactly what I was complaining about on IRC a few days ago. I
> simply am not going to use the Debian keyring if the precence of so
> many keys causes verifying a single mail to take barely-finite lengths
> of time. That's too bad, since there's a lot to be gained by actually
> verifying Debian signatures.

I should note that one workaround is to add --always-trust to your gpg
command line. At your own risk, but it does completly eliminate the long
trustdb step, reducing signature verification to its former speed.

I _hope_ that after --list-keys forces it to insert each and every key
into the trust db and do all the long calculations, and hopefully cache
them, the speed issue will be dealt with. We'll see; after 7 hours gpg
is still churning away on that command.

It'd be nice if someone would look at optimizing it sometime; the
behavior I see with strace is absurd, and could easily be done with no
syscalls, at least, by just reading the whole trustdb into memory.

[FWIW, this is a strace of a single gpg verify operation. I didn't even
 let it run all the way though, giving up when the strace log reached 700
 MB:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>grep llseek log |wc -l
 5036905
]

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[Andre . Heine]

Dear "Developer"

We have in our Company an old Computer from Siemens. The typ of this is
RM400 and the current Operating-System is SINIX an UNIX derivat from
Siemens.

And now my Question.

Can You say me exist a Linux-Version for this Hardware ??


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Re: gpg and trustdb very slow

[Steve Kowalik]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:27:20AM -0400, Joey Hess uttered:
> It'd be nice if someone would look at optimizing it sometime; the
> behavior I see with strace is absurd, and could easily be done with no
> syscalls, at least, by just reading the whole trustdb into memory.
>
I doubt very strongly that would end up being implemented, as gnupg likes to
lock the memory it plays with, so it can be considered "secure", I doubt
upstream would consider what is described above as secure. :-/

> [FWIW, this is a strace of a single gpg verify operation. I didn't even
>  let it run all the way though, giving up when the strace log reached 700
>  MB:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>grep llseek log |wc -l
>  5036905
> ]
> 
Whoa.

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Re: gpg and trustdb very slow

[Christian Kurz]

On 01-09-18 Joey Hess wrote:
> It'd be nice if someone would look at optimizing it sometime; the
> behavior I see with strace is absurd, and could easily be done with no
> syscalls, at least, by just reading the whole trustdb into memory.

I know that the Werner revamped the whole keyring code about 1 or two
weeks ago. I just tried the --list-keys with my private and the debian
keyring specified in the options file and I didn't took more then 5
minutes for me. (AMD K6-200). So I don't think if anyone would really
want to optimize the code more, he should look at the current cvs code.

Christian
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default font resolution in X Windows

[Matthias Berse]

Hi *,

I'd like to know, how I could accomplish that X Screen font res. will
not default to 100dpi. I would like to see a debconf question wether I
want 75dpi or 100dpi since I see no point using 100dpi unless your
resolution is at least 1280x1600 which most users won't have. OTOH
100dpi breaks lots of gtk programs (and others) which have hard coded
buttons optimized for 75dpi. I consider this rather ugly and the first
thing I have to do in fresh installs is to swap order of font
resolutions in both /etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/fs/config.

Don't get me wrong I don't claim that it should be 75dpi by default,
BUT there are so many questions asked while configuring X, so why not
one more?

Thanks,

Matthias
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Re: default font resolution in X Windows

[Andreas Metzler]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote:
> I'd like to know, how I could accomplish that X Screen font res. will
> not default to 100dpi. I would like to see a debconf question wether I
> want 75dpi or 100dpi since I see no point using 100dpi unless your
> resolution is at least 1280x1600 which most users won't have.
[snip]


/var/lib/dpkg/info/xbase-clients.config
db_input medium xbase-clients/default_100dpi || true

/var/lib/dpkg/info/xbase-clients.templates
Template: xbase-clients/default_100dpi
Type: note
Description: xinit starts the X server using 100 dpi.
 You should be aware that, by default, xinit (and thus startx) starts the X
 server using the "-dpi 100" argument, which forces the X server to treat
 the display as having 100 dots per inch.  This particularly affects the
 visible font size.  Another common default is 75 dpi; some font
 rasterizers do not deal well with dpi settings other than 75 or 100.
 .
 The "-dpi 100" setting can be changed or removed by editing
 /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc.

  cu andreas

Re: default font resolution in X Windows

[Branden Robinson]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote:
> I'd like to know, how I could accomplish that X Screen font res. will
> not default to 100dpi.

That is probably not going to happen.

> Don't get me wrong I don't claim that it should be 75dpi by default,
> BUT there are so many questions asked while configuring X, so why not
> one more?

Because debconf is not a registry.  The files that need to be edited are
conffiles and debconf cannot touch them, per Debian policy.

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Bug#112641: ITP: hpoj -- HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)

[Mark Purcell]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-18
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: hpoj
  Version : 0.8
  Upstream Author : David Paschal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://hpoj.sourceforge.net
* License : GPL V2
  Description : HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)

 This software provides Linux support for most "multi-function" 
(or "all-in-one") peripherals from Hewlett-Packard, including OfficeJet, 
LaserJet, and Printer/Scanner/Copier ("PSC") products. It consists of: 

- Low-level drivers and libraries to communicate with the device. Depending on 
your hardware and operating system configuration, you may connect devices 
directly to your workstation with a parallel port or USB (Universal Serial 
Bus), or to a LAN (Local Area Network) using certain models of HP JetDirect
print servers. 

- An application programming interface (API) known as "PTAL" (Peripheral 
Transport Abstraction Libary) that hides the differences in accessing 
devices connected via parallel, USB, or JetDirect. 

- Printing support, largely powered by ghostscript, the HP inkjet driver 
(for selected models), and one of various print spoolers (Berkley lpd, 
gnulpr, LPRng, CUPS, PDQ, etc.) that may already be installed on your 
computer. 

- Scanning support, powered either by Scanner Access Now Easy (SANE) or
by "ptal-hp scan", a command-line application provided with the hpoj package. 

- Graphical and command-line applications to access various features of the 
peripheral, such as displaying status of the device and setting the clock. 


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Bug#112648: ITP: ebook-dev-html - [EBOOK-DEV] HTML 4.01 specification

[Francesco Lovergine]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

See www.w3c.org. This is the first volume of the EBOOK-DEV series.

HTML 4.01 Specification 24 December 1999. 
Dave Raggett, Arnaud Le Hors, Ian Jacobs
This specification is the latest version of HTML 4. It supersedes the
HTML 4.0 Recommendation first published as HTML 4.0 on 18 December 1997
and revised as HTML 4.0 on 24 April 1998.


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Re: gpg and trustdb very slow

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> On 01-09-18 Joey Hess wrote:
> > It'd be nice if someone would look at optimizing it sometime; the
> > behavior I see with strace is absurd, and could easily be done with no
> > syscalls, at least, by just reading the whole trustdb into memory.
> 
> I know that the Werner revamped the whole keyring code about 1 or two
> weeks ago. I just tried the --list-keys with my private and the debian
> keyring specified in the options file and I didn't took more then 5
> minutes for me. (AMD K6-200). So I don't think if anyone would really
> want to optimize the code more, he should look at the current cvs code.

As well as reading the docs, where it is said that one must reinsert all keys
in the trustdb to take advantage of a new caching algorithm...

I just import all the Debian keyring into a work keyring, all at once. It
takes no more than 10 minutes in my k6-200.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: Bug#112648: ITP: ebook-dev-html - [EBOOK-DEV] HTML 4.01 specification

[Francesco P. Lovergine]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:52:29PM +0200, Francesco Lovergine wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> See www.w3c.org. This is the first volume of the EBOOK-DEV series.
> 
> HTML 4.01 Specification 24 December 1999. 
> Dave Raggett, Arnaud Le Hors, Ian Jacobs
> This specification is the latest version of HTML 4. It supersedes the
> HTML 4.0 Recommendation first published as HTML 4.0 on 18 December 1997
> and revised as HTML 4.0 on 24 April 1998.
> 
> 

I see current doc-html-w3 contains HTML 4.01 specs also. 
The package seems in NMUing since 1998. Latest NMU is in Nov 2000.
I'll check if this package can be adopted. In this case I could close
this ITP.



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Bug#112666: ITP: docbook-utils -- Convert SGML files to other formats (HTML, RTF, Postscript, PDF)

[Christian Marillat]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-18
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: docbook-utils
  Version : 0.6.9
  Upstream Author : Eric Bischoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/devel/docbook/SOURCES/
* License : GPL
  Description : Convert SGML files to other formats (HTML, RTF, Postscript, 
PDF)

This package will replace cygnus-stylesheets, docbook2man, docbook2texi,
docbk-xml2x, docbook2x-doc

Christian

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Problem with static lib/global constructors in apt under cygwin

[Mark Paulus]

Hi,

I'm trying to build apt-0.5.4 from the unstable branch under cygwin,
and I've got most of the little compile time bugs worked out.  
However, apt-get doesn't run.  It comes back with a message,
"Unable to determine a suitable system type",
which I have traced back to the fact that the global pkgSystem()
constructor is not being called.  I see a note in the COMPILING
file about how to fix this, by adding an 
assert(&debSystem == 0), but I can't quite figure out where to stick
this little line.  (or, even, if it's the proper syntax). 

Would anyone out there have any nice little words of wisdom for me??


Thanks.

Cygwin 1.3.2
g++ 2.95.3
gnu make 3.79.1
Windows XP RC-2

Re: aptitude: I know it broke, don't bother telling me

[Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier]

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Daniel Burrows wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:47:42AM -0400, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
> >   The first bugreport on an aptitude problem caused by #111914 just rolled
> > in.  (namely, the http method breaks badly when run from aptitude)  This is
> > a known problem that comes from the apt libraries, and I'll be uploading a
> > workaround soonish.  Please don't send tons of bug reports about it or I'll
> > have to deal with merging them instead of dealing with the workaround :)
> 
>   I just realized, when I saw this in DWN, that I never followed up to this.
> The version of aptitude in sid is now free of this bug (and some stupid
> segfaults that somehow snuck in at the same time)
>   Install 0.2.6.4, and if it still doesn't work, report bugs.

Okay, we'll be sure to mention that next week. Let me know if there are any
further developments on it that should be mentioned around then.

Best,

Zonker
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Re: default font resolution in X Windows

[Matthias Berse]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:17:01PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Matthias Berse wrote:
> > I'd like to know, how I could accomplish that X Screen font res. will
> > not default to 100dpi. I would like to see a debconf question wether I
> > want 75dpi or 100dpi since I see no point using 100dpi unless your
> > resolution is at least 1280x1600 which most users won't have.
> [snip]
> 
> 
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xbase-clients.config
> db_input medium xbase-clients/default_100dpi || true
yes I know. Any pointer why this decision has been made?
> 
>  You should be aware that, by default, xinit (and thus startx) starts the X
>  server using the "-dpi 100" argument, which forces the X server to treat
>  the display as having 100 dots per inch.  This particularly affects the
>  visible font size.  Another common default is 75 dpi; some font
>  rasterizers do not deal well with dpi settings other than 75 or 100.
So why has this change made? Sorry if that's an faq. Maybe the answer
should be included in the note.
>  .
>  The "-dpi 100" setting can be changed or removed by editing
>  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc.
or editing those two files I mentioned before?!

thanks,

Matthias

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OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source (fwd)

[Simon Richter]

Hi,

I just came across this, perhaps someone is interested in packaging it.

   Simon

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Date: 17 Sep 2001 12:57:21 -0700
From: Peter Gulutzan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory
Subject: OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source

THE OCELOT SQL DBMS, a standard-SQL Windows package, is now
free and open source (Mozilla/GPL license). This makes distribution,
including commercial distribution, a painless and costless
exercise for SQL developers. Download the engine, ODBC
interface, front end, samples and documentation and complete
source code from:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/OCELOTSQL/download.htm
or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ocelot

There are about 10,000 commercial sites with an Ocelot-based
application. It's also used as a tool for SQL college courses.

Trudy Pelzer
Ocelot Computer Services Inc.

Re: OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source (fwd)

[Matt Zimmerman]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:36:59PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:

> I just came across this, perhaps someone is interested in packaging it.
[...]
> THE OCELOT SQL DBMS, a standard-SQL Windows package, is now

There's little point in trying to package it until it's ported to Unix-land.

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Re: OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source (fwd)

[Richard Atterer]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:36:59PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> I just came across this, perhaps someone is interested in packaging it.

While we're at it; another interesting database that really ought to
be included with Debian is SAP-DB .

Note that there's a pending ITP (#88988) from 9 Mar 2001 by Bernd
Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I had a look at it. To package it, at least the following is necessary:
- A few days' time to get acquainted with the build system
- A week or two to get it packaged (rough estimate)
- Source code for all the _development_tools_ from SAP (start with that)
- A couple of changes to make it FHS compliant
- More time to package the various extensions, language preprocessors etc.

and with that, you get a wonderful, full-featured DBMS! Maybe some
task force would be required to do the work, though. (Sorry, I haven't
got the time.)

SAP-DB is being actively developed by ~100 people in Berlin.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Bug#112699: ITP: librte0 -- Real Time Encoder library

[Christian Marillat]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-18
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: librte0
  Version : 0.3.1
  Upstream Author : Iñaki García Etxebarria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://zapping.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : Real Time Encoder Mpeg library

This tarball contains 3 packages :

librte0 and librte-dev library needed by zapping to build the plugin
encoder.

mp1e a cli to encode video from V4L or V4L2.

Christian

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Re: Debian Linux for Siemens RM400

[neuffer]

Quoting Karsten Merker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:36:02AM +0200, Dominik Kubla wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:45:23AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > > We have in our Company an old Computer from Siemens. The typ of this is
> > > RM400 and the current Operating-System is SINIX an UNIX derivat from
> > > Siemens.
> [SNIP]
> > > Can You say me exist a Linux-Version for this Hardware ??
> [SNIP]
> > Yep. Linux/Mips was developed on this hardware (at least Ralf Baechle
> > got a RM from Siemens-Nixdorf back then to perform the port).  Should
> > be working splendid...
> 
> Unfortunately, AFAIK it does not. Ralf has written support for the
> RM200, but to my knowledge not for the RM400. The Linux/MIPS HOWTO
> lists the RM400 as unsupported.

Yes, if I remember correctly, the RM200 was the 3rd MIPS system he 
developed Linux/MIPS on. We had a fun time when we tried to get hold 
of the box. We always hoped that we could get hold of one, but the 
chance didn't materialize at that time. Later Ralf moved on to work 
with larger, smaller and more interesting hardware at SGI and Cobalt.

Ahh... those were the times :-)

Mike

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about doing exactly what you planned, doing it on time, and doing it 
with resources that you said you'd use.  But if you're going to do 
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are doing, it isn't really research."
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woody chroots on powerpc and sparc?

[Stephen Zander]

CC's to me please...

Do such things exist?  Trying to build a package for powerpc/sparc on
i386 is a little difficult and I explicitly want to build for
woody/testing.

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Bug#112717: ITP: libyahoo - Yahoo Messenger client library

[Gopal Narayanan]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

I am surprised that libyahoo has not been packaged yet. It is
currently part of other packages such as everybuddy, ariyahoo,
GNUYahoo, etc., as a subdirectory and linked statically. I am working
with upstream to libtoolize it and build a shared library as well. I
have the permission of upstream to package it up for debian.

Copyright: GPL
Website: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libyahoo/

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Re: Bug#111274: ITA: doc-linux-ja -- Linux HOWTOs in Japanese

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 04:23:32PM +0200, Daniel Kobras wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:54:45AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > I already orphaned it.  The same goes for:
> (...) 
> >  * #110948: O: doc-linux-de -- Linux HOWTOs in German
> 
> I'd be willing to step in for the Debian package, but the problem is Marco
> also seems to be upstream for the German Linux HOWTOs. Does anyone if there's 
> German Linux documentation that's still actively developped?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is probably the right place (or at least a first
place) to ask.

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