Re: build dependency alternatives sequencing

[Anthony Towns]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:44:37PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> > It is possible in the Build-Depends specification of a package to give
> > alternatives using syntax like:
> > libltdl0-dev | libltdl3-dev
> I am starting to believe that an "|" in builld depends is evil.
> When something is really required for specific arches, 
> it should have the [machine-type] thing.
> And when "alternatives" exist, we don't really know for sure which 
> version of the library things are built against, or with.

That statement is a little ambiguous.

From one perspective, clearly "we" (the entire Debian community) always
know which one's the right one to use, it's just that in various instances
it may be the porter, the package maintainer, or the maintainer of the
package being depended upon that actually knows.

The real question is who should be deciding which alternative to use
when more than one work.

In some circumstances, it's quite obvious which alternative to use;
for example roxen Build-Depends on 'libgmp2-dev | libgmp3-dev', so for
architectures where libgmp2-dev isn't available, clearly libgmp3-dev
should be used. And it seems much more reasonable to expect porters to
know which of these packages is available on their architecture than
to expect the roxen maintainer to know the status of libgmp[23] on all
architectures. The build daemons at present don't work this way, though.

In other cases, it doesn't matter to the package which alternative
is used, but it does to the autobuilder. A recent case of this was
Build-Dependencies on mail-transport-agent. Most autobuilders translate
this to a dependency on "ssmtp" which is a very simple MTA, but those
that didn't/don't would default to exim, which had an interactive postinst
and wouldn't automatically install.

Another case, which isn't quite so easy, is things like dependencies on
"libapt-pkg-dev", which'll result in a different Depends: line depending
on which version of libapt-pkg-dev you use to satisfy the dependency. If
the autobuilder happens to use an old version, then the newly build
package won't work with the updated apt at all. gnome-apt on i386/powerpc
and stormpkg on powerpc suffer from this in unstable atm.

OTOH, there are cases where upstream supports different ways of
building the package, but Debian only wants to use one of these. So
while the package might build completely successfully without, say,
svgalib available, it'll be less featureful than we might want. In this
circumstance, we'd want all the autobuilders to install svgalib when
building, but it'd be nice if we could easily indicate to users that
they can recompile the package without svgalib if they might want.

Much of this stuff really needs to be fixed on the buildd side of
things rather than by having maintainers restrict their Build-Deps,
IMO. Especially considering there are are some obvious bugs in the
buildd's current handling of things.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: extra feature for debchange

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:20:27 -0400
"Brandon L. Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:

> * Jason Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > take a look at apt-listchanges
> 
> aha I knew it, yet another apt-* or dpkg-* utility I haven't heard of. I need
> to keep more up to date on these things, or these utilities need to be more
> well ducumented. Is there a list, anywhere, of all these obscure? utilites 
> that
> I seem to only find when it's too late?
I'm trying to work on a document that is just like that... It
already documents lots of things like the menu system and doc-base
to users, maybe I should just add apt-listchanges to apt-howto...
right?

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uploading to testing ?

[Joop Stakenborg]

Sorry for the obviuos question, I must have missed it somehow. How do I
upload to testing? Setting Urgency = High did not help

Thanks,
Joop

Re: uploading to testing ?

[Joop Stakenborg]

On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 08:24, Joop Stakenborg wrote:
> Sorry for the obviuos question, I must have missed it somehow. How do I
> upload to testing? Setting Urgency = High did not help
> 

Nevermind. Just got reply from ftp-master. He told me because testing is
automated by scripts uploads will be done once in 2 days.

> Thanks,
> Joop
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: jabber.deb

[Bernd Eckenfels]

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:30:54PM +0200, clemens wrote:
> where is the icq transport in the debian packages?

tere are no transports in the debian server package. I will package msn
transport after i have updated the jabber server, not sure if i will package
all transports, they seem to mean a lot of work.

Any volunteer who want to package jabber transports?

Greetings
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Re: jabber.deb

[Scott Dier]

* Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010910 02:28]:
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:30:54PM +0200, clemens wrote:
> > where is the icq transport in the debian packages?
> tere are no transports in the debian server package. I will package msn
> transport after i have updated the jabber server, not sure if i will package
> all transports, they seem to mean a lot of work.

Oo an updated jabberd?  I might think about doing icq at least.  aim
becomes. uh. user intensive because of the aim binary requirement. :|

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Re: Clueless bug reports from autobuilders.

[Martin Schulze]

Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am getting more of these bug reports from autobuilders, and I would like
> to suggest this.

Umh.  When the auto-builders came up thiese kind of bug reports were not
appreciated and the porters didn't report them, they (espcially Roman, many
thanks) reported proper reports, which often did include fixes to the problem
when the bug was due to the code being too ia32-centric.

Did this change when more buildd went active?

> Many just send me a bug log, and that doesn't really tell me much,
> because it lacks the following information :
> 

> o what was the last version of the software that DID compile 
>   and build.

call ``madison package'' on auric.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: jabber.deb

[Jonathan McDowell]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 03:05:30AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
> * Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010910 02:28]:
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:30:54PM +0200, clemens wrote:
> > > where is the icq transport in the debian packages?
> > tere are no transports in the debian server package. I will package
> > msn transport after i have updated the jabber server, not sure if i
> > will package all transports, they seem to mean a lot of work.
> Oo an updated jabberd?  I might think about doing icq at least.
> aim becomes. uh. user intensive because of the aim binary requirement.
> :|
 
I'm running the ICQ, MSN, AIM & Yahoo transports on my server so I'll
package any of these that no one else grabs. However I'm wondering about
whether there'll be a uniform method of adding a new transport to the
server or if the onus will be on the user to do the configuration?

J.

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Re: kswapd eating CPU power ... any ideas why?

[Nick Phillips]

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:19:01PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm working on a little project putting Debian on a CD. (Works great so

We've done this; not particularly neatly packaged etc., but works fine.
If anybody's interested, I'll try to get someone to write it up and/or
stick the tools we use for creating CDs up somewhere.

Hugo; you're probably doing it slightly differently - might be cunning
to compare notes once you've done it & see where we've done things
differently...


Cheers,


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Re: debconf in a chroot

[Hugo van der Merwe]

> > How can I get debconf to run right in a chroot? The problem I have to
> > deal with is:
> > 
> > debconf: failed to initialize frontend: Text
> > debconf: (This frontend requires a controlling tty.)
> 
> How are you doing it? I really haven't met this problem.

My guess, it might be devfs related?

# tty
/dev/pts/2
# chroot sid-chroot/
# tyy
not a tty
#

This is clearly the problem ... "not a tty" ...

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xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Sander Smeenk \(CistroN Medewerker\)]

Hey,

I have this weird 'problem' I can't figure out what causes this, and
I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. I wrote 
Branden (xfonts-*dpi maintainer) about this, but he hasn't received 
any other messages about this yet.

This is what happens:
Each and every time I receive xfonts-*dpi upgrades, when dpkg tries to 
install them, they fail like this:

|[11:53] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] # dpkg -i
|/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb 
|(Reading database ... 57366 files and directories currently installed.)
|Preparing to replace xfonts-100dpi 4.1.0-5 (using
|.../xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb) ...
|Unpacking replacement xfonts-100dpi ...
|dpkg: error processing
|/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb (--install):
| unable to make backup link of
|`./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/lutBS19-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz' before
|installing new version: Device or resource busy
|dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
|Running update-fonts-dir in 100dpi font directory...done.
|Running update-fonts-alias in 100dpi font directory...done.
|Errors were encountered while processing:
| /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb
|zsh: 22893 exit 1 dpkg -i
|/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb

And I get this message in my syslog:

|Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
|we have got hash function screwed up

So, when I do 'dpkg --purge xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi ; apt-get install
xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi' everything works like a charm!

I'm having this problem on two of my systems, and they both run
reiserfs, and this only happens with xfonts-*dpi. I bet Branden is
trying to conquer the world with this evilness in his packages. :)

Can anyone explain what this is?  
Running reiserfsck (scary!) doesn't help, but then again, reiserfsck is
pre-alpha-alpha-beta software, according to the lists .. :)
I haven't tried rebuilding the tree (but why should I, reiserfsck says
everything is OK, and I haven't noticed any weirdness besides this)

Regards,
Sander.

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Re: Clueless bug reports from autobuilders.

[Junichi Uekawa]

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

I was feeling really unwell when I have sent the original mail,
but I will justify what I have written.

> > I am getting more of these bug reports from autobuilders, and I would like
> > to suggest this.
> 
> Umh.  When the auto-builders came up thiese kind of bug reports were not
> appreciated and the porters didn't report them, they (espcially Roman, many
> thanks) reported proper reports, which often did include fixes to the problem
> when the bug was due to the code being too ia32-centric.
> 
> Did this change when more buildd went active?

Yes. 

Recently, I am seeing that the quality of bug reports is getting lower,
from, presumably, people who are new to this.

See #111555, and tell me if you would think that the bugreport 
was helpful at all, apart from making me realize that there was a 
problem.


> > Many just send me a bug log, and that doesn't really tell me much,
> > because it lacks the following information :
> > 
> > o what was the last version of the software that DID compile 
> >   and build.
> 
> call ``madison package'' on auric.

It needs a shell access. I don't always have shell access to auric.



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Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Guus Sliepen]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:01:30PM +0200, Sander Smeenk (CistroN Medewerker) 
wrote:

> |dpkg: error processing
> |/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-100dpi_4.1.0-5_all.deb (--install):
> | unable to make backup link of
> |`./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/lutBS19-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz' before
> |installing new version: Device or resource busy

That clearly indicates that dpkg cannot make this link because of device
problems. It is not a problem in dpkg nor in the xfonts packages.

> And I get this message in my syslog:
> 
> |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> |we have got hash function screwed up

Really, this is a clear indication that reiserfs is buggy. Send this
information to Hans Reiser or the lkml instead of Branden, he has nothing to do
with it from the looks of it.

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Re: extra feature for debchange

[Junichi Uekawa]

Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> There are currently over 500 Debian-native packages in unstable, and
> probably somewhere around 25-50% of these are Debian-specific utilities.  It
> might be a useful project to investigate these and create an index of them.

Or make a Debian system administrator's manual into something
real.
It would be nice.


regards,
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Re: debconf in a chroot

[Junichi Uekawa]

Hugo van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> > How are you doing it? I really haven't met this problem.
> My guess, it might be devfs related?

So, does mounting the devfs inside the chroot work?

(Just like mounting the proc inside the chroot).


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Re: debconf in a chroot

[Hugo van der Merwe]

> So, does mounting the devfs inside the chroot work?
> 
> (Just like mounting the proc inside the chroot).

Ah, yes, thanks. Doh.

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Re: How to make your custom debian packages apt-gettable

[Ola Lundqvist]

On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:22:00AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote:
> I wrote a documentation
> "How to make your custom debian packages apt-gettable".
> Have I re-invented the wheel?

Well you can probably mention debarchiver too. It is only in testing
but it is a nice package (that I have written) so not only make
them apt-getable but it also sorts them in a good way. :)

Regards,

// Ola

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Re: Clueless bug reports from autobuilders.

[Steve Kowalik]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:03:41PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa uttered:
> > 
> > call ``madison package'' on auric.
> 
> It needs a shell access. I don't always have shell access to auric.
> 
Use packages.debian.org search page, that'll tell you what is installed.
(Yes, it's somewhat like madison.)

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Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Robert van der Meulen]

Hi,

Quoting Guus Sliepen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:01:30PM +0200, Sander Smeenk (CistroN Medewerker) 
> wrote:
> > |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> > |we have got hash function screwed up
> Really, this is a clear indication that reiserfs is buggy. Send this
> information to Hans Reiser or the lkml instead of Branden, he has nothing to 
> do with it from the looks of it.
I have seen this problem, on his machine.
Could you show me where he's sending this to Branden ?
You must admit that it's quite a coincidence that this problem keeps
occurring when he's upgrading his font packages, so this is a useful factor
in his question.
There seems to be some kind of link between these package upgrades, and
reiserfs weirdnesses, if anyone on debian-devel has these - or similar -
problems as well, this would be a good place to ask.

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Re: Clueless bug reports from autobuilders.

[Christian Surchi]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:00:07PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:03:41PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa uttered:
> > > 
> > > call ``madison package'' on auric.
> > 
> > It needs a shell access. I don't always have shell access to auric.
> > 
> Use packages.debian.org search page, that'll tell you what is installed.
> (Yes, it's somewhat like madison.)

madison gives you packages installed by archs and distribution. You can't have 
those
with packages.d.o.

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Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Adam Warner]

On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 22:01, Sander Smeenk (CistroN Medewerker) wrote:

> |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> |we have got hash function screwed up

So what kernel are you running Sander? There are data corruption bugs in
earlier 2.4 kernels.

In fstab are you currently using the notail option? It might be safer.

Regards,
Adam

Re: kswapd eating CPU power ... any ideas why?

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:04:30 +0100
Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:

> On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:19:01PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm working on a little project putting Debian on a CD. (Works great so
> 
> We've done this; not particularly neatly packaged etc., but works fine.
> If anybody's interested, I'll try to get someone to write it up and/or
> stick the tools we use for creating CDs up somewhere.
that would be greatly appreciated =)

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Re: IA64 buildd status ?

[Christoph Martin]

Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I see this status at the excuses page:
>  * sendmail  8.11.6+8.12.0.Beta19-0 (currently 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-8)
>(extra) (high)
>   + Maintainer: Richard A Nelson (Rick) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   + sendmail uploaded 13 days ago, out of date by 11 days!
>   + out   of   date   on   ia64:  libmilter-dev,  sendmail  (from
> 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-5)
>   + there are up to date bins in ia64 also
>   + not considered
> 
> Where can I find a build log, so I can find out whats going on ?

Same problem with openssl:
* openssl 0.9.6b-1 (currently 0.9.6a-3) (standard) (non-US) (medium)

* Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* openssl uploaded 51 days ago, out of date by 46 days!
* out of date on ia64: openssl (from 0.9.6-1.1)
* there are up to date bins in ia64 also
* not considered

Bdale said he has to set up the nonus autobuilder, but other packages
got build meanwhile.

Christoph

Re: build daemon architectures

[Sam Hartman]

> "Randolph" == Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> The Automatic Package Building System page[1] lists the build
>> daemons with web pages.  It does not list those without,
>> however.  Since my latest libcdaudio packages are considered
>> out of date on i386, I was wondering if a build daemon exists
>> for that architecture.  If you know of a build daemon for an
>> architecture other than arm, m68k, powerpc, or sparc (even if
>> it doesn't have a

Randolph> i386, mips, mipsel, ia64, hppa, alpha, s390 all have
Randolph> autobuilders.


IT would be nice if we could also list which of those have non-us
autobuilders.

Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Branden Robinson]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 05:31:01AM -0700, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> I have seen this problem, on his machine.
> Could you show me where he's sending this to Branden ?

He mailed me privately; I told him to ask debian-devel.

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Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Wessel Dankers]

On 2001-09-11 00:48:12+1200, Adam Warner wrote:
> On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 22:01, Sander Smeenk (CistroN Medewerker) wrote:
> > |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> > |we have got hash function screwed up

> So what kernel are you running Sander? There are data corruption bugs in
> earlier 2.4 kernels.

> In fstab are you currently using the notail option? It might be safer.

My guess would be that the bug is related to the hashing of filenames in
reiserfs, which has always been a bit troublesome. It would would certainly
explain why it always occurs with this package: apparently the filenames in
one of the font directories trigger some kind of hash collision.

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Re: build daemon architectures

[Matt Kraai]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:59:27AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Randolph" == Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> The Automatic Package Building System page[1] lists the build
> >> daemons with web pages.  It does not list those without,
> >> however.  Since my latest libcdaudio packages are considered
> >> out of date on i386, I was wondering if a build daemon exists
> >> for that architecture.  If you know of a build daemon for an
> >> architecture other than arm, m68k, powerpc, or sparc (even if
> >> it doesn't have a
> 
> Randolph> i386, mips, mipsel, ia64, hppa, alpha, s390 all have
> Randolph> autobuilders.
> 
> 
> IT would be nice if we could also list which of those have non-us
> autobuilders.

I'd be happy to, if someone would let me know which those are.

Matt

Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

[Sander Smeenk \(CistroN Medewerker\)]

Quoting Wessel Dankers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> > > |we have got hash function screwed up
> > So what kernel are you running Sander? There are data corruption bugs in
> > earlier 2.4 kernels.
> My guess would be that the bug is related to the hashing of filenames in
> reiserfs, which has always been a bit troublesome. It would would certainly
> explain why it always occurs with this package: apparently the filenames in
> one of the font directories trigger some kind of hash collision.

I mailed Hans Reiser about this with extensive information etc. but I
still like to know if others are having the same problem. I found at
least one person with similar behaviour and asked wether he was running
ReiserFS too (#107843).

Usefull for system setup comparison..

Regards,
Sander.

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Updated lclint (2.5r)

[Gordon Sadler]

I use this at times at work, school, and home. As such I've created some
more up to date packages. 2.4b is the only available version in the
archives, stable-unstable. 2.4b was released in Apr 98 and the last
upload to the archives appears to be Feb 2000.

I've emailed the maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that I have these
available and if he would care to look at them or put the package up for
adoption, I would be interested in maintaining it. However, after a
closer look at the developer's ref,
(http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-archive-manip.en.html#s-adopting)
it's plainly clear that lack of response from maintainer is no reason to
try to adopt a package.

So if anyone would like to review and/or provide this as an NMU, I'm
making it available at:
http://wolverine.cameron.edu/~gbsadler/debian

Apt-gettable with:
deb http://wovlerine.cameron.edu/~gbsadler/debian ./
deb-src http://wolverine.cameron.edu/~gbsadler/debian ./

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Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

[Marco d'Itri]

severity 111889 whishlist
thanks

On Sep 10, Ken Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >"man hexdump" shows "hd" should also exist, but it doesn't appear to
 >be there.  Simple enough to fix, I suppose.
We first have to decide if this is a bug.
Do we need another two letters command in the default installation?

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HW Probe

[BERNARDES,JOAN \(Non-HP-Brazil,ex1\)]

Hi,
I have a question about the Red Hat 7.1 installation CD.
It uses XFree86 4.1?
How it's possible to run in any video card? Anaconda probe the hw
and configure the XServer?
I'm doing a similar application in a bootable CD, but I don't know
how to probe the hw, how can I do that for a video card?
Can I use anaconda on my bootable CD? Is it free?
Thanks,

Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

[Guus Sliepen]

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:42:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:

>  >"man hexdump" shows "hd" should also exist, but it doesn't appear to
>  >be there.  Simple enough to fix, I suppose.
> We first have to decide if this is a bug.
> Do we need another two letters command in the default installation?

Perhaps Ken was suggesting removing the reference to hd in the manpage instead.

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debian-announce milestone: 20K!

[Josip Rodin]

Hi,

Here's some interesting trivia: the debian-announce mailing list now has
more than twenty thousand subscribers. See http://lists.debian.org/stats/
for that and more statistics about our mailing lists[1].

I propose a virtual toast: here's to the twenty thousand, and let's hope
that the mailing list software works just as good when we reach 30K next
year! :)

[1] it seems the gnuplot config files got somewhat broken, there's now a
straight green line on the graphs... I never touched that code. Go figure.

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Re: [Debian-devel]Compiling Kernel on SPARC 2.2(potato)) -> 2.4.9

[Paul Slootman]

On Sun 09 Sep 2001, marc herren wrote:
> 
> I've got the following problem when compiling a new Kernel on my SPARC20 
> workstation.
> 
> make vmlinux ->
> 
> ...
> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/char'
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
> -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
> -m32 -pipe -mno-fpu -fcall-used-g5 -fcall-used-g7-c -o vt.o vt.c
> vt.c: In function `vt_ioctl':
> vt.c:507: `kbd_rate' undeclared (first use in this function)

AFAIK linux 2.4 simply isn't suitable for sparc yet (sparc64 is a
different matter).


Paul Slootman

Re: Request for testers for new gphoto package

[Paul Slootman]

On Sun 09 Sep 2001, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> 
> I would appreciate it if people (with digital cameras) tested this new
> version and sent me some feedback regarding its failure/success. Please
> take heed that gphoto is a popular package and Anthony asked for no major
> changes in packages so I *really* want good reasons to upgrade this
> package.

Well, I've been using a version I compiled myself from CVS because the
debian package doesn't work with my Canon G1:
# gphoto2 --help | grep '^g' 
gPhoto (v2.0beta1) - Cross-platform digital camera library.

However, I can't install your package:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gphoto:
 gphoto depends on libusb1; however:
   Package libusb1 is not installed.

# apt-get install libusb1
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package libusb1 has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
E: Package libusb1 has no installation candidate


There's some problem there... Apparently libusb1 was removed a couple of
weeks ago.


> PS: Please send copies to me and not to the list, in order to not clobber
> it (I'm not subscribed so keep that in mind)

To the list anyway to prevent others from running into the same problem
and wasting their time.


Paul Slootman

xplanet can use ssystem image file!

[Bill Allombert]

Hello, 

I know there are lot of xplanet-lover here, and I just discover
you can use ssystem file with xplanet!

xplanet --window  --body mars --image /usr/lib/ssystem/mars.jpg  --orthographic

(no there aren't any Debian developpers on Mars (yet ?).)
BTW this should be in /usr/share/ssystem/mars.jpg per FHS.

Also it would be nice to make this more transparent, that xplanet and
ssystem share these files via dependecies

Have fun!

Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Request for testers for new gphoto package

[Paul Slootman]

On Mon 10 Sep 2001, Paul Slootman wrote:
> 
> However, I can't install your package:

Removing the partly installed package also doesn't work well:

# dpkg --purge gphoto
(Reading database ... 44388 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing gphoto ...
Purging configuration files for gphoto ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gphoto.postrm: e: command not found

Try using vim with colour syntax highlighting, you will see that line 13
has a line break at column 80 where you won't normally notice it. Looks
like cut & paste...

Tip: always test whether you can also actually remove the package before
releasing it on an unsuspecting public.


Paul Slootman

Re: HW Probe

[Bas Zoetekouw]

Hi BERNARDES,JOAN!

You wrote:

>   I have a question about the Red Hat 7.1 installation CD.

I'm sorry, but Debian is not Redhat. It is, in fact, a completely
different Linux distribution. I suggest you seek help in a Redhat
newsgroup or mailinglist.

Good luck!

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Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

[Marco d'Itri]

On Sep 10, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >>  >"man hexdump" shows "hd" should also exist, but it doesn't appear to
 >>  >be there.  Simple enough to fix, I suppose.
 >> We first have to decide if this is a bug.
 >> Do we need another two letters command in the default installation?
 >
 >Perhaps Ken was suggesting removing the reference to hd in the manpage 
 >instead.
There is no reason to do this.


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Re: HW Probe

[Mike Markley]

What does this have to do with Debian development?

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:53:09PM -0400, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake forth:
>   Hi,
>   I have a question about the Red Hat 7.1 installation CD.
>   It uses XFree86 4.1?
>   How it's possible to run in any video card? Anaconda probe the hw
> and configure the XServer?
>   I'm doing a similar application in a bootable CD, but I don't know
> how to probe the hw, how can I do that for a video card?
>   Can I use anaconda on my bootable CD? Is it free?
>   Thanks,
> 
> 
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Bug#111910: ITP: libnss-mysql -- NSS library using MySQL

[Guillaume Morin]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-10
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libnss-mysql
  Version : 0.30 (not yet released)
  Upstream Author : Guillaume Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/nss-mysql
* License : GPL, next release might be licensed under LGPL
  Description : NSS library using MySQL

Current CVS features complete support for passwd and groups. Complete support
for shadow will be added before release.

Re: isync vs mailsync

[Joey Hess]

Roland Bauerschmidt wrote:
> > It's supposed to have support for uploading local messages now, but I
> > have never seen it work yet.
> 
> It actually works here! When I first tried isync (version 0.4) I was
> dissatisfied because this wasn't working. I wrote Michael Elkins about
> it, but never got a reply. With isync 0.5 it actually seems to work.

Still doesn't work for me. What IMAP server are you using?

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Re: debconf in a chroot

[Jason Thomas]

I use chroot jails with devfs and it works for me! 

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:58:51AM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> > > How can I get debconf to run right in a chroot? The problem I have to
> > > deal with is:
> > > 
> > > debconf: failed to initialize frontend: Text
> > > debconf: (This frontend requires a controlling tty.)
> > 
> > How are you doing it? I really haven't met this problem.
> 
> My guess, it might be devfs related?
> 
> # tty
> /dev/pts/2
> # chroot sid-chroot/
> # tyy
> not a tty
> #
> 
> This is clearly the problem ... "not a tty" ...
> 
> Hugo van der Merwe
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Re: debconf in a chroot

[Hugo van der Merwe]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:24:23AM +1000, Jason Thomas wrote:
> I use chroot jails with devfs and it works for me! 

Yup, I just forgot to mount /dev. Thanks.

Hugo van der Merwe

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Re: >>>11,000,000 EMAIL ADDRESSES..............

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