[xavier.bestel@free.fr: Xv lost ?]

2001-09-09 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this gentleman to file a proper bug report?  (X server
output, what version of the package is it, etc etc etc)

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Hi !

since the latest update of xlibs (I think), I've lost XvImage ... I have
an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro (R128), kernel 2.4.9-ac7.
Any Hint ?

Xav



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Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:

> Ideally we could have a terminal type that allows the server to say "local 
> echo all characters, buffer them and flush the buffer on '\n', '\t', (and any 
> other interesting characters)".  That would allow the above command to be 
> sent in 4 packets of data instead of 15+!  The 3270 emulation does similar 
> things but isn't designed for UNIX use, so it doesn't work for TAB's.

Actually, one good solution is turning on the Nagle algorithm, or rather not
using TCP_NODELAY (I don't know if ssh sets it, but I guess it does to improve
responsiveness). What you propose will break situations where you have to type
one non-interesting key to invoke an action, people wait for it to happen but
it won't be sent out because of your proposed terminal type. The only way you
could safely do this is if the server side would send cues whether or not to do
character/word/line buffering.

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Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:11:58PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> Actually, one good solution is turning on the Nagle algorithm, or rather not
> using TCP_NODELAY (I don't know if ssh sets it, but I guess it does to improve
> responsiveness). What you propose will break situations where you have to type
> one non-interesting key to invoke an action, people wait for it to happen but
> it won't be sent out because of your proposed terminal type. The only way you
> could safely do this is if the server side would send cues whether or not to 
> do
> character/word/line buffering.

This problem was solved for telnet, see RFC 1184.

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Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:18:35 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi
> I'm a student at Kent University Canterbury UK I will be
starting 
> my final year project some time next
> year and I am looking to find a project that involves linux development 
> ideally kernel / module based or a port
> of software to a specific platform.  I am unsure as to what projects are

> about as I have to do a unique project
> and not a redevelopment of something that has already been done. Any 
> ideas.
> 
> Blake Drayson
> 

Distributed debian mirror.




Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 12:11, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> > Ideally we could have a terminal type that ALLOWS THE SERVER TO SAY
> > "local echo all characters, buffer them and flush the buffer on '\n',
> > '\t', (and ANY OTHER INTERESTING CHARACTERS)".  That would allow the
> > above command to be sent in 4 packets of data instead of 15+!  The 3270
> > emulation does similar things but isn't designed for UNIX use, so it
> > doesn't work for TAB's.
>
> Actually, one good solution is turning on the Nagle algorithm, or rather
> not using TCP_NODELAY (I don't know if ssh sets it, but I guess it does to
> improve responsiveness). What you propose will break situations where you
> have to type one non-interesting key to invoke an action, people wait for

No, the server just registers that key as a key that will push all the data.  
It would be more efficient than anything that the Nagle algorithm could 
produce AND give the best responsiveness.

BTW  All correctly written terminal programs will push all data out and 
defeat the Nagle algorithm anyway.

> it to happen but it won't be sent out because of your proposed terminal
> type. The only way you could safely do this is if the server side would
> send cues whether or not to do character/word/line buffering.

Of course, as I specified in my original message!

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Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:31:14PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:

> > Actually, one good solution is turning on the Nagle algorithm, or rather
> > not using TCP_NODELAY (I don't know if ssh sets it, but I guess it does to
> > improve responsiveness). What you propose will break situations where you
> > have to type one non-interesting key to invoke an action, people wait for
> 
> No, the server just registers that key as a key that will push all the data.  
> It would be more efficient than anything that the Nagle algorithm could 
> produce AND give the best responsiveness.

Well, Nagle is very good for fast typers :).

> BTW  All correctly written terminal programs will push all data out and 
> defeat the Nagle algorithm anyway.

I don't know whether that really is correct behaviour. Depends on your point of
view I think.

> > it to happen but it won't be sent out because of your proposed terminal
> > type. The only way you could safely do this is if the server side would
> > send cues whether or not to do character/word/line buffering.
> 
> Of course, as I specified in my original message!

After rereading, I noticed I overlooked "allows the _server_ to say", you are
right.

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[Debian-devel]Compiling Kernel on SPARC 2.2(potato)) -> 2.4.9

2001-09-09 Thread marc herren
Hi,
I've got the following problem when compiling a new Kernel on my SPARC20 
workstation.

make vmlinux ->
...
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/char'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-m32 -pipe -mno-fpu -fcall-used-g5 -fcall-used-g7-c -o vt.o vt.c
vt.c: In function `vt_ioctl':
vt.c:507: `kbd_rate' undeclared (first use in this function)
vt.c:507: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
vt.c:507: for each function it appears in.)
vt.c:514: `kbd_rate' used prior to declaration
vt.c:514: warning: implicit declaration of function `kbd_rate'
make[3]: *** [vt.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/char'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers'
make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2

Can someone help me ?
Thanks
Marc



Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:36, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:31:14PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > Actually, one good solution is turning on the Nagle algorithm, or
> > > rather not using TCP_NODELAY (I don't know if ssh sets it, but I guess
> > > it does to improve responsiveness). What you propose will break
> > > situations where you have to type one non-interesting key to invoke an
> > > action, people wait for
> >
> > No, the server just registers that key as a key that will push all the
> > data. It would be more efficient than anything that the Nagle algorithm
> > could produce AND give the best responsiveness.
>
> Well, Nagle is very good for fast typers :).
>
> > BTW  All correctly written terminal programs will push all data out and
> > defeat the Nagle algorithm anyway.
>
> I don't know whether that really is correct behaviour. Depends on your
> point of view I think.

Doesn't Nagle typically involve delays of >100ms?  >100ms extra delay for a 
serial link in unacceptable for interactive use, so every key press must be 
pushed.

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Bug#111764: general: Apache-perl installs in 5.6.0 dir instead of 5.6.1

2001-09-09 Thread Debian User
Package: general
Version: 20010909
Severity: grave


-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Kernel Version: Linux tarjei 2.2.19pre17 #1 Tue Mar 13 22:37:59 EST 2001 i586 
unknown
The error is as following:
I installed the apachepackage as normal. Then when I tried to install 
apache-perl, I get thr error
rs:
Here is the full output of the process:
tarjei:/etc/ldap# apt-get install apache-perl   
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libdevel-symdump-perl 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  apache 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apache-perl libdevel-symdump-perl 
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1  not upgraded.
Need to get 756kB of archives. After unpacking 922kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 ftp://ftp.se.debian.org woody/main libdevel-symdump-perl 2.00-5 [13.5kB]
Get:2 ftp://ftp.se.debian.org woody/main apache-perl 1.3.19-1-1.25-4 [742kB]
   
Fetched 756kB in 25s (29.6kB/s) 
   
(Reading database ... 31427 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache ...
Stopping web server: apache.
/usr/sbin/apachectl stop: httpd stopped
dpkg - warning: while removing apache, directory `/var/log/apache' not empty so 
not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing apache, directory `/etc/apache' not empty so not 
removed.
Selecting previously deselected package libdevel-symdump-perl.
(Reading database ... 31392 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libdevel-symdump-perl (from .../libdevel-symdump-perl_2.00-5_all.deb) 
...
Selecting previously deselected package apache-perl.
Unpacking apache-perl (from .../apache-perl_1.3.19-1-1.25-4_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libdevel-symdump-perl (2.00-5) ...

Setting up apache-perl (1.3.19-1-1.25-4) ...

Initializing apache config for immediate operation.
Reloading apache modules.
[Sun Sep  9 12:59:07 2001] [error] Can't locate Apache.pm in @INC (@INC 
contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.6 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 . /etc/apache/ 
/etc/apache/lib/perl) at (eval 1) line 3.

/usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started

tarjei:/etc/ldap# updatedb
tarjei:/etc/ldap# locate Apache.pm
/usr/lib/perl/5.6.0/Apache.pm
/usr/lib/perl/5.6.0/Bundle/Apache.pm
/usr/share/perl/5.6.1/CGI/Apache.pm
tarjei:/etc/ldap# ../init.d/apache start
Starting web server: apache.
[Sun Sep  9 13:04:47 2001] [error] Can't locate Apache.pm in @INC (@INC 
contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.6 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 . /etc/apache/ 
/etc/apache/lib/perl) at (eval 1) line 3.

Tarjei(email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]):




Re: Netwinder debussy.debian.org upgraded

2001-09-09 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Othmar Pasteka  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm happy to announce that the Netwinder debussy.debian.org is upgraded
>and again available for every Debian developer. The upgrade took
>longer than expected, but it's finally done.

% ssh debussy.debian.org

Creating home directory '/home/miquels'.
-zsh: error in loading shared libraries: -zsh: symbol getrlimit64, version 
GLIBC_2.1.3 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
Connection to debussy.debian.org closed.

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Re: library build problems

2001-09-09 Thread Martin Albert
On Sunday 02 September 2001 21:12, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>
>   ../libtool: test: =: unary operator expected
>   ../libtool: test: =: unary operator expected
>
> and it just bombs out later with:
>   libtool: link: cannot find the library `'

svgalib4libggi had a non-numeric version info (thats 1:ggi:99) that 
gave the same errors for me. Had to change it to being all numeric.

HTH, greetings, martin




Re: Cruft update

2001-09-09 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:54:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 07:04:37PM -0700, Francois Gouget wrote:
> >At first sight it would seem logical to simply send a bug report
> > against cruft with all the updates but I think it would actually make
> > much more sense to send bug reports against each package so that *they*
> > and not cruft include these filter files. Here's why.
> 
> Once upon a time, back when cruft was brand new, the idea was that
> packages should include a /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.extrafiles-esque file
> that cruft would look at. This, naturally enough, was going to require
> a policy proposal and would hopefully get dpkg support (so dpkg -S
> /etc/passwd would give you useful information, and so something similar
> could happen for dpkg -L) and all would be rosy.

That sounds like a really good idea.

> Unfortunately, there was some debate about whether the format cruft uses
> (which has a special foo/** syntax for a * wildcard that matches /'s
> as well as normal characters) is okay, or whether a standard globbing
> system should've been used instead (I proposed what cruft currently uses,
> Ian Jackson said a standard globbing function'd be better). No conclusion
> ever got reached, the policy issue got lost when Christian Schwarz (sp?)
> resigned as policy editor, and everyone who cared got distracted.

Ah.  Might be nice to resurrect it and see whether we can solve these
issues.  The format cruft uses is much less relevant than the idea of
having such files; cruft can always be modified.  I've long been
frustrated that it can be really hard to track down the origins of
certain files on the system.

> Things that all packages are meant to do should really be in
> -policy. That's policy's entire raison d'etre, after all.

Let's continue this on -policy.

   Julian

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kswapd eating CPU power ... any ideas why?

2001-09-09 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Hello,

I'm working on a little project putting Debian on a CD. (Works great so
far, have X up and running, most likely just a kernel recompile away
from getting network etc. up too... (using tmpfs for rw directories, and
some symlinks). A friend is figuring out RedHat... we will publish what
we've done when we've got it all relatively nicely written out, if
anyone is interested?)

Anyway, the problem I have is, top is showing 99.8% CPU usage by
kswapd... any ideas why this might be? How can I find out what it is
doing?

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe

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Re: kswapd eating CPU power ... any ideas why?

2001-09-09 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:19:01PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm working on a little project putting Debian on a CD. (Works great so
> far, have X up and running, most likely just a kernel recompile away
> from getting network etc. up too... (using tmpfs for rw directories, and
> some symlinks). A friend is figuring out RedHat... we will publish what
> we've done when we've got it all relatively nicely written out, if
> anyone is interested?)
> 
> Anyway, the problem I have is, top is showing 99.8% CPU usage by
> kswapd... any ideas why this might be? How can I find out what it is
> doing?

isn't it trying to swap to the CD? :-)
what does /proc/swap say?


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Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:21:30 -0500, "Vince Mulhollon"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>References?  Just curious what the huge problems are.  It fundamentally
>seems to work, or at least I've not yet run into any road blocks.

- symlinks
- file owners
- file modes

These three are show stoppers for the most-wanted project of entering
/etc into CVS.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: kswapd eating CPU power ... any ideas why?

2001-09-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Radovan Garabik wrote:
[see subject]
> isn't it trying to swap to the CD? :-)
> what does /proc/swap say?

And what does "free" say? It could be that there's not enough free memory
anymore, which results in plain and simple problems ;-)

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build dependency alternatives sequencing

2001-09-09 Thread Bdale Garbee
Fellow Debian folk.

Those of us who run autobuilders have started seeing more cases of a new
class of problem showing up in our buildd email that we'd like your help 
resolving.

It is possible in the Build-Depends specification of a package to give
alternatives using syntax like:

libltdl0-dev | libltdl3-dev

On the surface, this seems like a reasonable thing to use, since it offers
more choice for the person building a package.  However, the sbuild tool that
most Debian autobuilders are using will only try the first alternative without
manual intervention.  The tool probably can and should be augmented to handle
the full Build-Depends syntax, but while doing so would increase our build
percentages slightly, it would also mask what may be some underlying problems.

In many cases, like the one above, the problem may really be that the -dev
version of a library should always be unversioned, like libltdl-dev, with only
one version typically installable at any time for building new programs even
if multiple versions of the runtime are still around.  Sometimes this has been
handled by creating a virtual package for each alternative of a development
library to provide, but I postulate that in most cases that's not necessary.
In any case, when listing alternatives, please always list the newest and most
likely to work with sid one first!

In some cases, it may be that a package changed names or structuring between 
potato and sid, and you're trying to make it possible to build the package on 
more than one version of Debian.  That's fine, but again, please try to put
the package that will work with sid first!

There are a couple of other oddball cases, like 

svgalibg1-dev | svgalib-dummyg1

where svgalib isn't relevant for all architectures.  And, I'm sure there are
other valid and seemingly-valid reasons for using the alternatives syntax in
a Build-Depends specification.

What I'd like to ask is that you realize that there is a "preference" implied
by the alternatives syntax, with the first alternative listed being the one 
that will be tried first (and perhaps only!) by the autobuilders.  Thus, it 
would help a lot if everyone would try to put the package most likely to allow
building on the most architectures in sid first.

Thanks.

Bdale







Processed: this is not a 'general' bug

2001-09-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> reassign 111764 apache-perl
Bug#111764: general: Apache-perl installs in 5.6.0 dir instead of 5.6.1
Bug reassigned from package `general' to `apache-perl'.

> merge 111764 98555
Bug#98555: policy violation causes apache-perl to be just plain broken with 
perl 5.6.1
Bug#111764: general: Apache-perl installs in 5.6.0 dir instead of 5.6.1
Merged 98555 111764.

> thanks
Stopping processing here.

Please contact me if you need assistance.

Darren Benham
(administrator, Debian Bugs database)




NMU upload but I'm the maintainer! (was: Fixed in NMU of sparc-utils 1.8-2)

2001-09-09 Thread Eric Delaunay

Hello,
  my last upload is tagged as NMU in the BTS but I'm the real maintainer of
this package. I uploaded 2 other packages last week without any trouble, so I
don't understand why I'm not considered the real maintainer this time
(moreover, the Maintainer and Changed-By fields of the .changes file are the
same).
Could you give me a pointer? Is there a bug in the dinstall/bts communication?
Is there something missing in the .changes I supplied?
Thanks in advance.

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tag 95148 + fixed

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This message was generated automatically in response to a
non-maintainer upload.  The .changes file follows.

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Description: 
 sparc-utils - Miscellaneous tools useful for sparc systems.
Closes: 95148
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   * Added init script for audioctl. Closes: #95148.
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Re: NMU upload but I'm the maintainer! (was: Fixed in NMU of sparc-utils 1.8-2)

2001-09-09 Thread Gergely Nagy

Hello!

> Maintainer: Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Changed-By: Eric delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ^

These are not the same, note the case...

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Re: NMU upload but I'm the maintainer! (was: Fixed in NMU of sparc-utils 1.8-2)

2001-09-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010909 22:22]:
> my last upload is tagged as NMU in the BTS but I'm the real
> maintainer of this package.

katie thinks it was an NMU because the Changed-By and Maintainer
fields didn't match.

> (moreover, the Maintainer and Changed-By fields of the .changes file
> are the same).

There are not.  Note the Delaunay vs delaunay.

> Maintainer: Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Changed-By: Eric delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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need help in resolving the Apache-Expat-XML::Parser conflict

2001-09-09 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Hi,

One of the packages I maintain is AxKit (an XML Application Server for Apache).
It depends for a part of its functionality on the latest version of Expat (via
XML::Parser).  Unfortunately, the version of Apache currently in sid is build
with its own (older!) version of Expat.  This results in segfaults when using
the newer version.

The current situation prevents the new version of AxKit to go into woody due
to two outstanding grave bugs (#100314 and #103717).  I simply cannot resolve
these satisfactorily in the current situation.

Note that AxKit recently caught attention on Debian Planet so I foresee an
increase of people trying to use it but fail (depending on what they try to
do with it).

Note als that this situation is in no way limited to AxKit.  In fact any other
software using XML::Parser will segfault when run inside Apache.  This rather
limits the use of this package in web applications written in Perl and using
mod-perl.

I've no problem NMU'ing apache, but that might break other packages (which?).
There are two ways to NMU:

1. leave out expat: this is the simplest way since it only requires a small
   change in the debian/rules file

2. build with the least version of expat (as described in bug #96093): that's
   more work given the way it's currently packaged (the upstream source are
   in tarballs which are unrolled during build)

Any help in resolving this situation is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ardo
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Re: need help in resolving the Apache-Expat-XML::Parser conflict

2001-09-09 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 03:51:05PM -0500, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
 
[AxKit not working due to Apache expat linkage]

> I've no problem NMU'ing apache, but that might break other packages
> (which?).  There are two ways to NMU:
> 
> 1. leave out expat: this is the simplest way since it only requires a
> small change in the debian/rules file
> 
> 2. build with the least version of expat (as described in bug #96093):
> that's more work given the way it's currently packaged (the upstream
> source are in tarballs which are unrolled during build)
> 
> Any help in resolving this situation is greatly appreciated.
 
Option 2 isn't actually that hard to do - you can put a patch against
the tarball in debian/patches and it'll get applied when the tarball is
unrolled. However why is Apache build with expat? Surely either option 1
removes functionality or doesn't and if it doesn't then is there any
reason not to choose it over linking expat dynamically? And if it does
then Option 2 makes more sense.

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extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Brandon L. Griffith
One thing I find myself doing quite alot is reading the Debian changelog of
freshly installed packages, and to cut down the manual typing of 
`zless /usr/doc//Debian.changelog.gz' every time I wanted to read one
I decided to add the feature to debchange (dch).
dch -r package || debchange --read package
It works out fine for me. I know I could have just added an alias to .aliases,
but from time to time I tend to do things the hard way, plus my .aliases file
is getting pretty full.
Anyhow, if anyone wants what I've done I made a diff of it and threw it up at
http://people.debian.org/~brandon/files/read-changelog.diff

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Re: extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Jason Thomas
take a look at apt-listchanges

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 08:05:25PM -0400, Brandon L. Griffith wrote:
> One thing I find myself doing quite alot is reading the Debian changelog of
> freshly installed packages, and to cut down the manual typing of 
> `zless /usr/doc//Debian.changelog.gz' every time I wanted to read one
> I decided to add the feature to debchange (dch).
> dch -r package || debchange --read package
> It works out fine for me. I know I could have just added an alias to .aliases,
> but from time to time I tend to do things the hard way, plus my .aliases file
> is getting pretty full.
> Anyhow, if anyone wants what I've done I made a diff of it and threw it up at
> http://people.debian.org/~brandon/files/read-changelog.diff
> 
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Re: extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Brandon L. Griffith
* Jason Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> take a look at apt-listchanges

aha I knew it, yet another apt-* or dpkg-* utility I haven't heard of. I need
to keep more up to date on these things, or these utilities need to be more
well ducumented. Is there a list, anywhere, of all these obscure? utilites that
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Re: extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Stephen Stafford
On Monday 10 Sep 2001 1:20 am, Brandon L. Griffith wrote:
> * Jason Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > take a look at apt-listchanges
>
> aha I knew it, yet another apt-* or dpkg-* utility I haven't heard
> of. I need to keep more up to date on these things, or these
> utilities need to be more well ducumented. Is there a list, anywhere,
> of all these obscure? utilites that I seem to only find when it's too
> late?

grep-available -Ps Package dpkg
grep-available -Ps Package apt

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Re: extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 08:20:27PM -0400, Brandon L. Griffith wrote:

> * Jason Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > take a look at apt-listchanges
> 
> aha I knew it, yet another apt-* or dpkg-* utility I haven't heard of. I
> need to keep more up to date on these things, or these utilities need to
> be more well ducumented. Is there a list, anywhere, of all these obscure?
> utilites that I seem to only find when it's too late?

Most of them are easy to find by searching extended descriptions.  An
"apt-cache search changelog" on unstable gives only 11 matches, one of which
is apt-listchanges.

There are currently over 500 Debian-native packages in unstable, and
probably somewhere around 25-50% of these are Debian-specific utilities.  It
might be a useful project to investigate these and create an index of them.

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Bug#111826: ITP: w3cam -- a simple CGI to retrieve images from a so called video4linux device.

2001-09-09 Thread Takuo KITAME
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

w3cam is a simple CGI to retrieve images from a so called video4linux
device. In other words this program will only run on Linux machines
which support a video4linux-device.

w3cam supports a plain mode and a gui mode. In the gui mode a html
with a form is supplied to change some parameters with the mouse ..

License is GPL

http://www.hdk-berlin.de/~rasca/w3cam/

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debconf in a chroot

2001-09-09 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Hello,

How can I get debconf to run right in a chroot? The problem I have to
deal with is:

debconf: failed to initialize frontend: Text
debconf: (This frontend requires a controlling tty.)

I am considering, either trying the experimental web front end if that
is still available, or the X front end with remote-X, but, I would
prefer to figure out how to get debconf to run with dialog or text
frontends when in a chroot.

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe

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Re: build dependency alternatives sequencing

2001-09-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> It is possible in the Build-Depends specification of a package to give
> alternatives using syntax like:
> 
> libltdl0-dev | libltdl3-dev

I am starting to believe that an "|" in builld depends is evil.
When something is really required for specific arches, 
it should have the [machine-type] thing.

And when "alternatives" exist, we don't really know for sure which 
version of the library things are built against, or with.

For example, build-depending on " byacc | bison " might
seem reasonable, but it's not. You don't know which version
of something caused certain bug, and it is not possible 
to reliably rebulid from source.


Anyway, this is my thought, while playing with pbuilder.
I would recommend D-Ds to trying to build a package with
pbuilder, and see if the "build-depends" line confuses 
pbuider. 



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Re: debconf in a chroot

2001-09-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hugo van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> How can I get debconf to run right in a chroot? The problem I have to
> deal with is:
> 
> debconf: failed to initialize frontend: Text
> debconf: (This frontend requires a controlling tty.)

How are you doing it? I really haven't met this problem.


regards,
junichi

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