update-menus and similar programs
update-menus forks to the background and waits for dpkg to finish before continuing to work. This is a useful function that could be useful for other programs (for instance scripts that build automated indexes of other kinds). Is there a cunning way to achieve this at present? If not, is there any reason why I *shouldn't* file a wishlist item against dpkg (apart from the fact that it will be lost amongst the other few hundred bug reports!) Thanks Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
too many directories in /usr/doc?
Section 2.1.6 of the policy states: Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license in the file /usr/doc//copyright (see section 5.6, Copyright information' for details). I'm taking over maintaining the linux-gazette packages from Christian Schwarz, and I would prefer to just have /usr/doc/lg/copyright, rather than having one in each /usr/doc/lg-issueXX directory. There will not be anything else in /usr/doc/lg-issueXX as the issues are installed in /usr/doc/lg. This seems the most reasonable to me, as it saves having sixteen directories. I've just looked at the X stuff and it has loads of directories, each with a copyright file in it. Hmmm. Thanks Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: "purity" package
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 02:07:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: .. > There are some valid arguments why showing violence is bad. No there ain't. There are some valid arguments why people who can't control their violent tendencies/sexual urges should be taken out and shot. (sorry, couldn't resist) To rephrase an old saying, while I don't much care for hardcore porn websites I'll always defend their right to exist on the web. It's about freedom, and I used to think Debian was free too. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Objects in the mirror appear further then they are (etched on a rear view mirror of a Mitsubishi Mirage) pgpOXagaFRjkq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: about CFLAGS
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 02:19:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Francesco Tapparo: > > I'm packaging scwm: my problem is that the makefiles of this program don't > > work if a set CFLAGS externally (e.g. with: make CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall"). The > > makefiles are created by configure. Is a such behaviour wrong, or I must set > > the variables within configure? (I tried with ./configure CFLAGS="-O2 -g > > -Wall", but without any positive results). > > Did you try CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" ./configure? > Yes, so the pakage compile perfectly: thanks. Now I think that this is the right method of set the variables. ciao Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Priorities before hamm release
Hi.
After RedHat 5.0 got released we noticably increased reatre of package
conversion and this is extremely good. The sooner hamm is relesed the
better. But we might consider other opprtunities to *increase* our
"market share" in current situation. The problem with RH 5.0 is that there
are not that many commercial and even pre-compiled free applications and
development environments for libc6 nowdays. This will change but not
immediately. Users encoutered with this might consider falling back to
some libc5-based distribution for some time. And *up to date*
Debian 1.3.1 could very well be the distribution of choice.
But only *if* we provide updated versions of the packages.
Can't we finally decide that the creation of this "libc5-updates"
directory has higher priority *now* than putting some order with
hamm uploads. Developers are anyway accustomed to download new packages
directly from Incoming. What do you think about asking Guy to put that
on top of his list?
Thanks.
Alex Y.
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Re: about CFLAGS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Francesco Tapparo wrote: > Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > > Did you try CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" ./configure? > > Yes, so the pakage compile perfectly: thanks. Now I think that this is the > right method of set the variables. However, I fail to see why make CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" could not work, if Makefile is generated by a configure script. Did you try to regenerate configure from configure.in using a recent version of autoconf? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNIGtkyqK7IlOjMLFAQGqkAQAoSJbuN/nA77iuHRm5+0MouTSI2LFMz+t dCL2wOLYghVeJgxS76FU4pX/F2wXkY4I/2/CDvDKTQ17mP5jC71Xb6DJmRdBXpok gJiopfCZNqOm145jraZgvF4hTz/r02Kdl2UiOQPb4pGAflojQB0wI4AJVXJ2pH8i iE8GoVe4J9E= =6jgj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dpkg-ftp question
Is there a version of dpkg-ftp that fixes bug #10792 ? (The symptom is that dpkg-ftp prepends dist/ instead of the correct path to the files it's trying to download.) Or is there a work-around for this? If not, what is the recommend path for upgrading to hamm? Note: I followed the instructions in the libc5->libc6 upgrade HOWTO. I'm using dpkg-ftp 1.4.9 ftp site: ftp.debian.org passive: y username: anonymous password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp dir: /debian/hamm distributions: stable non-free contrib download dir: debian By the way, -The link to the bug list is broken on the US and German WWW sites. -The link is also broken to the mailing list archives, otherwise I might have found the answer to my questions there. -- Lee Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RFC: Deb 2.0 testing process
Hello everyone, The testers are starting to think about how to organized the 2.0 testing effort. One idea that the testers seemed to like is to create a checklist for checking each package. Before we just checked to see if the packages installed and if the entire system seemed to work correctly. This time we plan on being a bit more thurough, but it will require a bit of help from the developers. What I would like to do is keep a list of checklist for all the packages in a format similar to the packages.gz file. I'd like to create the initial checklist from what the maintainers advice. I don't expect it to be complicated, e.g. Package: xbiff (assuming there is a package for this single binary) Checklist: - by default it checks the users mailbox - switches display, geometry, file, update, volume, bg, fg, rv, and shape work This list can be added to by anyone. What I'd like to ask for now is any comments on this. Please do NOT send any checklist at this time. After a few weeks, I'll post a request for the list, and inform everyone of the final decision. Thanks, Brandon - Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We all know linux is great... it PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] does infinite loops in 5 seconds" Phone: (757) 221-4847 --Linus Trovalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: too many directories in /usr/doc?
> I'm taking over maintaining the linux-gazette packages from Christian > Schwarz, and I would prefer to just have /usr/doc/lg/copyright, rather than > having one in each /usr/doc/lg-issueXX directory. There will not be anything > else in /usr/doc/lg-issueXX as the issues are installed in /usr/doc/lg. > > This seems the most reasonable to me, as it saves having sixteen > directories. I've just looked at the X stuff and it has loads of > directories, each with a copyright file in it. Hmmm. > I'm surprised that there isn't a single directory, /usr/doc/lg, that contains all the issues. If people feel that it would be an abuse of policy not to have a /usr/doc entry for each issue, then simply make them a soft link into /usr/doc/lg. - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: not a first amendment question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) > I'm _seriously_ offended by this. The idea that the bible (or quake) has > more redeeming features than purity is ridiculous. You're being sarcastic, right? > By the way, why the move to -devel? I didn't do it. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
Greg Stark writes: > > We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just > installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled > e2fsprogs. That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs <= 1.10-6, which does contain libcom_err ! You should probably install e2fsprogsg to replace e2fsprogs. > dpkg: considering removing e2fsprogs in favour of comerr2g ... > dpkg: yes, will remove e2fsprogs in favour of comerr2g. > (Reading database ... 17790 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking comerr2g (from .../base/comerr2g_1.10-8.deb) ... -- Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Stop making M$-Bill richer & richer, alt-email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | support Debian GNU/Linux: debian-email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | more powerful, more stable ! http://www.a2points.com/homepage/3475232 | - A computer engineer's looking for a job ! - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Yann Dirson wrote: > Greg Stark writes: > > > > We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just > > installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled > > e2fsprogs. > > That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs <= 1.10-6, > which does contain libcom_err ! > > You should probably install e2fsprogsg to replace e2fsprogs. I'd say this is an understatement, and you should definitely install e2fsprogsg. Preferably before rebooting the system. I found this out the hard way; compiled a new kernel, tried to reboot, couldn't because fsck was missing. No real problem; e2fslibsg was present, so I just had to get /sbin/fsck on diskette from another system. (Should have gotten fsck.ext2 too, in retrospect, but its absence was less serious.) - David, just visiting because dejanews said the "clock skew" problem was mentioned here. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dpkg --compare-versions
I need to run some commands in the postinst of ifmail only if the user is upgrading a previous. I tried: if [ "$1" == "upgrade" -a -n "$2" -a "$2" != "" ]; then if dpkg --compare-versions $2 le 2.12tx8.6; then [...] fi fi but it does not works, I think the first test is wrong. Does someone has a working example? -- ciao, Marco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
It occurs to me that one avenue for a safe upgrade to hamm might be a jumbo-package. This would basically be a hand crafted .deb that contained (and provides) all the relevant sensitive packages. The downside is that this approach is laborious to implement. The upside is that this approach solves all the problems introduced by the current many-packages implementation of debian. Thoughts? -- Raul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Yann Dirson wrote: > Greg Stark writes: > > > > We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just > > installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled > > e2fsprogs. > > That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs <= 1.10-6, > which does contain libcom_err ! > > You should probably install e2fsprogsg to replace e2fsprogs. BTW, is there a particular reason that e2fsprogs got renamed to e2fsprogsg? This seems to be the biggest chance to completely screw over someone's system in all of Debian now. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about CFLAGS
Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > Francesco Tapparo wrote: > > Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > > > Did you try CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" ./configure? > > > > Yes, so the pakage compile perfectly: thanks. Now I think that this is the > > right method of set the variables. > > However, I fail to see why make CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" could not work, > if Makefile is generated by a configure script. Hmm... I think I ran into this too. In package cgoban, the Makefile.in contains the following line: CFLAGS = @CFLAGS@ $(INCS) The result is that if I override CFLAGS when I invoke make, I lose $(INCS), which is a series of -I flags. I got around the problem by replacing that line with the following two lines: CDEBUGOPTS = @CFLAGS@ CFLAGS = $(CDEBUGOPTS) $(INCS) Then I invoke make with CDEBUGOPTS="-O2 -g". It is possible that the Makefile.in in your package already contains a variable that performs a role similar to the CDEBUGOPTS I added to cgoban. Richard Braakman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dpkg-ftp question
Quoting Leland Olds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Is there a version of dpkg-ftp that fixes bug #10792 ? > > (The symptom is that dpkg-ftp prepends dist/ instead of the correct > path to the files it's trying to download.) > > Or is there a work-around for this? I don't know if this is The Right Way, but I'm using: $ftpdir='/debian/'; $distribs='dists/unstable/hamm dists/unstable/non-free dists/unstable/contrib'; -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, [EMAIL PROTECTED]finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: > BTW, is there a particular reason that e2fsprogs got renamed to > e2fsprogsg? This seems to be the biggest chance to completely screw over > someone's system in all of Debian now. It wasn't just renamed, it was split into e2fsprogsg and e2fslibsg. (What is this "g" that keeps getting appended to packages lately?) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, David Gaudine wrote: > It wasn't just renamed, it was split into e2fsprogsg and e2fslibsg. I meant to add "I think". The above is what I see from the descriptions that dselect shows me. dselect also lists the old package as "required base", which was a bit unnerving when I was deleting it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bugs...
I tried to file these at www.debian.org, but the server said that the bug tracking page was an unknown URL (it seems to be other URLs, too, like the packages page.) I tried the german mirror but the timestamp said Oct 31 so I decided to send a mail to the list and find out what's going on. since I've nowhere else to mention them, I'll list them quickly. The xbase (3.3.1-2) failed postinst. The section: test -L /usr/include/X11 && rm -f /usr/include/X11 if [ -d /usr/include/X11 ] then cd /usr/include/X11 cp -a * /usr/X11R6/include/X11 cd .. rm -rf X11 fi seems to be at fault. My /usr/include/X11 was empty, so the cp failed and the postinst broke. Not hard to test for. Next, sed (2.05-18) has this annoying tendancy to say Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens. everytime it starts up. Really ugly when my xterms all have this at the top due to stuff in my rc's: Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens. Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens. Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens. I'll post these as actual bug reports if someone tells me the best way to do so. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, [EMAIL PROTECTED]finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen
We've been having a logo contest for a long time. It failed to generate a consensus on a logo for the project. It got to the point where people were clamoring for me to hire a commercial artist and get the job done. I went over the candidates in the logo contest, and found one that was probably as good as what I would have gotten after spending money on a commercial artist. The logo I chose is http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/profile/si02.html specifically the color one with the blue eye. This is the logo of "Debian GNU/Linux". Any future Debian system we do with the Hurd would obviously have a different logo. We could still use a logo for Software in the Public Interest. I chose this logo because it is a simple, easily recognized image, it emphasizes the Linux connection while it is also definitely different from the Linux penguin, it's easily trademarked, and it has esthetic merit. We need some more artistic treatements of this logo - different sizes (for example one for a CD jacket), different type, use of the image in various contexts, etc. My thanks to all of the artists who submitted logos. There was great creativity, and I'm sorry that we could not use all of them! Many Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: be careful with Replaces, please
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greg Stark writes: > > We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just > > installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled > > e2fsprogs. > > That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs <= 1.10-6, > which does contain libcom_err ! > > You should probably install e2fsprogsg to replace e2fsprogs. I know i should install a new e2fsprogs, obviously. I was just suggesting we should find some way to avoid the default action being to deinstall packages that aren't really being completely replaced. I'm not sure what better to do though. Incidentally, the g suffix on packages indicates they're a libc6 package. Usually it's only needed on libraries since you might want both libc6 based and libc5 based libraries installed at the same time. Usually we don't care about having two versions of binary packages installed simultaneously. I'm not exactly sure why we have both e2fsprogs and e2fsprogsg, possibly because e2fsprogs are so essential that we're being paranoid about future libc6 bugs. greg -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
