Re: Bug#2063: scsi driver sequence unreasonable

1995-12-29 Thread Simon Shapiro
Hi Bdale,

> I'm not going to get upset no matter what Simon decides to do, because I
> suspect I'll be building custom kernels for most of my machines no matter
> what, but I wanted to make sure that the "silliness" of the current approach
> in my eyes got registered someewhere and fed back upstream.

Agree.  I need some feedback on this issue:

How many people never compile their kernel and why?

There are many good reasons to DO compile your own kernel and very few I
know of not to.  If needed, I am willing to attempt writing a short and
simple description of the process and answer any questions that pop up.

If it were up to me, the only use of the image package should be for
creating boot floppies.  Again, I could expand on it if interest
warrants it.

Happy New Year to you all!


Simon

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Re: Unanswered problem reports by maintainer

1995-12-29 Thread Simon Shapiro
> The US debian-bugs mirror seems to be fairing worse than normal...

What?!  A bug in the bug reporting system?  A bug in a bug.  :-)

Still beats M$ bug reporting system.  When they do not charge you to
take the bug report ($150/hour, Visa/MC, in advance, please), they still
respond just as slow.

[  This is NOT to bash M$.  Theirs is a fine and noble corporation. 
While Novell owned Unix, they did even worse.  You could not even pay
for such service! ]

We are doing fine Ladies and Gentlemen!

Happy New Year!




Simon

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New libgr

1995-12-29 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...


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Unanswered problem reports by date

1995-12-29 Thread iwj10
The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or or `forwarded' by a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref  PackageKeywords/Subject   Package maintainer
  416 wenglish   perl doesn't flush output auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robinson,
  563 tartar -x fails to overwrite or c Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref  PackageKeywords/Subject   Package maintainer
  579 image (?)  missing /usr/man/man8 manpages Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  660 gdbGDB gets address of structure  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  662 procps top doesn't behave sensibly if Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  691 textutils  textutils package, fmt(1) prog Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  702 findutils  locate crash with large db Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  713 mh mh should pause after printing Jim Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  725 xbase  twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  729 procps Bizarre corrupted output from  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  731 ncursesncurses wgetnstr doesn't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref  PackageKeywords/Subject   Package maintainer
  740 xbase  xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  746 cpio   mt doesn't support setblk (and Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  759 kbd, xbase /usr/bin/X11/showfont conflict Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  773 xbase  xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  775 xbase  twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  783 tartar --same-order doesn't work  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  785 cpio   mt problemsIan Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  786 syslogdsyslogd gone awol  Martin Schulze <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  797 (base) /etc/termcap console keydefs f (unknown)
  798 svgalibsvgalib gets control key mucke Ted Hajek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  808 emacs  Info anchors not active in ema Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  817 tartar -T /dev/null extracts whol Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  818 bash   bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  819 tartar should have null-separated Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  820 tcsh   tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  822 tartar -t doesn't check write err Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  824 cpio   cpio should have non-verbose,  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  825 trntrn warning messages corrupt t Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  827 libc or sh who reports wrong hostname (wa Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  835 sysklogd   syslogd dies, leaves system un (unknown -- `sysklogd')
  836 (base) Possible bugs in termcap syste (unknown)
  841 ncursesdselect from dpkg 0.93.34 says (unknown -- `ncurses')
  844 manpages   readdir(3) should document str Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  845 manpages   access(2) is ambiguous Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  850 indent [indent] option mentioned in d [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill
  853 shellutils `nice' does not do anythingIan Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref  PackageKeywords/Subject   Package maintainer
  857 gs_bothgs (2.6.1pl4-4) doesn't use /e (unknown -- `gs_both')
  864 make   make gets MAKEFLAGS wrong  Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  887 xarchieR6  xarchie barfs when ftp closes  (unknown -- `xarchier')
  889 info   Info 3.1-6 Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  902 lprlpr can't print a PostScript f Peter Tobias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  903 (base) /dev miscellaney   (unknown)
  911 libc   libc causes rsh to fail on com Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  918 miscutils  mkboot and image packages  Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  927 ncurses?   dselect display bug(unknown -- `ncurses')
  932 pine   Pine over-encodes files and au Ted Hajek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  933 pine   Pine wants to post my email re Ted Hajek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  934 pine   Pine `Full Header Mode' when r Ted Hajek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref  PackageKeywords/Subject   Package maintainer
  944 sysvinit   clock (-u) questionBruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  945 (base) clock (-u) question(unknown)
  957 dpkg   dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  981 ircii  irc package should ask for def Carl Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  985 manpages   struct dirent is not documente Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Ian Murdock <[EMAI

Re: Bug#2063: scsi driver sequence unreasonable

1995-12-29 Thread Raul Miller
Simon Shapiro:
   How many people never compile their kernel and why?

I generally try and use a debian kernel image until I have a specific
reason not to.  Then, I generally try to use the debian source until I
have a specific reason not to.  Then, I generally try to use one of
Linus's snap shots until I have a specific reason not to.  Then, I try
to work with generally distributed patches until I have a specific
reason not to.  Then, I try and make clean changes to the source (and
report back to the code maintainers what I've done).  I've never had
to progress beyond that stage (which would involve a major re-write of
some kernel code).

When convenient (e.g. when it looks like someone else has fixed a
problem which I consider significant), I try to migrate back to a more
generic kernel.

Unfortunately, there still exist kernel problems which I have to work
around by carefully avoiding certain classes of operations.  People
with a different hardware configuration and different operational
constraints might be able to live with a completely stock kernel.

By the way, note that there can be problems with both xconfig and
config with 1.3.51.  (make xconfig didn't appear to offer some network
options I needed, make config somehow left me with an empty .config
file -- I had to recover a previous version of .config, edit it
manually and make oldconfig).  Not everyone wants to spend the time
necessary to deal with these kinds of issues.

-- 
Raul



Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1995-12-29 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

I have reported this to the upstream maintainer. He promised me new acct code
(last is part of acct) about six months ago, so don't hold your breath.

--
Dirk Eddelb|ttelhttp://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



mirror-2.8-1

1995-12-29 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
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Changes: 
* mirror-2.8-1 release
* mirror.pl: applied patch by Michael Alan Dorman to fix
  $big_tmp typo and deletion of db file in /var/tmp (bug#2055)
* mirror.pl: added unshift( @INC, "/etc/mirror" ); to permit
  mirror.defaults to be stored in /etc/mirror
* added a README.debian with example in /usr/doc/examples
Files:
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- -- 
Dirk Eddelb|ttelhttp://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd

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tput

1995-12-29 Thread Ian Murdock
I moved the tput package out of the distribution and into
/debian/private/project/obsolete a few weeks ago.  Is there any reason we
should save it?  I didn't delete it because I wasn't sure.  I assume that
ncurses supercedes it, as it now has a clear, reset, and tput of its own.



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-29 Thread Ian Murdock
On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote:

> For those out there that are interested. I will make space available for 
> these ports, and allow each group to maintain uploads for the subtree.
> 
> Please contact me if you are in need of an account for this use.

Please don't do this.  I'd rather that the alpha, m68k, and sparc versions
be maintained just like the i386 version is maintained.  (That is,
contributors upload packages to an Incoming directory and I move them into
the archive from there.)



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-29 Thread Ian Murdock
On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Dominik Kubla wrote:

> you might as well add binary-m68k since the first Debian/68k packages
> are starting to appear.

Okay.

> These packages as well as the necessary source patches are currently
> stored at U-Mainz:
> 
>   ftp.uni-mainz.de:/pub/Linux/devel/debian/dontuse/m68k/

Should I copy all of this to the new m68k directory at ftp.debian.org?



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-29 Thread Raul Miller
Matthew Bailey:
   > For those out there that are interested. I will make space available for 
   > these ports, and allow each group to maintain uploads for the subtree.
   > 
   > Please contact me if you are in need of an account for this use.

Ian Murdock:
   Please don't do this.  I'd rather that the alpha, m68k, and sparc versions
   be maintained just like the i386 version is maintained.  (That is,
   contributors upload packages to an Incoming directory and I move them into
   the archive from there.)

How should we distinguish between i386/m68k/sparc specific packages
and architecture neutral packages?  For architecture specific
packages, what happens if several .deb files get uploaded at the same
time for the same package?

-- 
Raul



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-29 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote:

> be maintained just like the i386 version is maintained.  (That is,
> contributors upload packages to an Incoming directory and I move them into
> the archive from there.)

No a problem, but we will need more incomings to help keep the sort down.

--
Matthew S. Bailey
107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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is beyond the scope of this article.)





Bug#2072: MANOPT not parsed well?

1995-12-29 Thread Robert Leslie
Package: man
Version: 2.3.10-6

I can't seem to find a way to set MANOPT to change the default pager for
displaying man pages to "less -s".

I want to do this:

  MANOPT='-P "less -s"'

But man apparently doesn't parse the double quotes, and treats the -s as a new
man option. The man page for man hints that embedded spaces should be escaped
with \, so I tried:

  MANOPT="-P less\\ -s"

With this, running man I get:

  sh: less -s: command not found
  man: command exited with status 32512: /bin/gzip -dc
  '/var/catman/cat1/man.1.gz' | { export MAN_PN LESS; MAN_PN='man(1)';
  LESS="$LESS\$-Pm\:\$ix8mPm Manual page $MAN_PN ?ltline %lt?L/%L.:byte
  %bB?s/%s..?e (END):?pB %pB\\%..";  less\ -s; }

Apparently man correctly includes -s as part of the option, but doesn't strip
the \ so it gets passed down into the resulting shell command above. I've
tried many variations on quoting and backslashing, and none seem to give the
desired results. Any ideas, or can this be classified as a bug?

--
Robert Leslie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



ftp.debian.org is down.

1995-12-29 Thread osiris
Hope this event wasn't already announced, and I missed it, but the ftp
site seems to be down.

Thanks
--
Rob