Re: Bug#2063: scsi driver sequence unreasonable

1995-12-27 Thread Simon Shapiro
> The file drivers/scsi/hosts.c defines the sequence in which different SCSI
> controller cards are identified.  The AHA152X driver appears early in
the list,
> which is unreasonable if there is another, smarter, SCSI controller in the
> system... since it will result in the 1510/1522/1522/etc card assuming
the role
> of the 0th SCSI channel.

You are right, of course.  I changed it in 1.3.47 and the DPT (has
NOTHING to do with the AHA drivers) and the Buslogic are at the top. 
What other AHA-compatible do we have that should move?  I a mopen for
suggestions.

Besides, with the nice support that Adaptec gives Linux users we should
really re-locate the drivers to /dev/null anyway, but the Linux
developer supporting these things IS a nice guy, so...

Merry Christmas!



Simon

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Bug#2065: single user isn't

1995-12-27 Thread Simon Shapiro
Hi There,

> This caused me considerable grief when one of the disks on my system was
  starting to fail, and I was desperately trying to extract a few critical
  files that had been updated since the last backup.  The cycle was to boot,
  snag a few files before the disk warmed up and failed, then power down to let
  things cool off, then repeat.  The insistence of the system on doing fsck's
  at every boot made this a much less productive process per unit time than it
  could/should have been.

Re-booting from a floppy could have saved you some grief.
A can of compressed air or highly purified alcohol in a spray bottle
(and proper ventilation!) could have cooled the drive enough to do
things a little quicker.  An ice pack is something I used to use
(Wrapped in some paper towels to absorm moisture).

On your point, oc cource you are right!  Single user mode should be as
DO$ as we can get it.



Simon

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tar-1.11.8-3

1995-12-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
This release fixes the problem with specifying a null username when a remote
tape is specified to the 'f' argument.  Previously, unless the fully qualified
form of

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev/tapename

was used, a segmentation violation and core dump would result before anything
else happened.  It turns out that a null pointer was being dereferenced when
the username was not specified.  With this release, the user defaults to the
current user, so the form

host:/dev/tapename

works fine.  There were several essentially duplicate bug reports that this
release allows me to close.

I've made contact with the upstream maintainer, and his changelogs indicate
that I may be able to close some other open Debian tar bugs once I get a fresh
code snapshot to work from.  We'll see.

Bdale


Date: 27 Dec 95 07:46 UT
Source: tar
Binary: tar 
Version: 1.11.8-3
Description: 
 tar: GNU tar.
Priority: Low
Changes: fix problem with null username in remote tape path specification
Files:
 -rw-r--r--   1 root bdale  688876 Dec 27 00:41 tar-1.11.8-3.tar.gz
 -rw-rw-r--   1 bdalebdale2850 Dec 27 00:42 tar-1.11.8-3.diff.gz
 -rw-r--r--   1 root bdale  144332 Dec 27 00:40 tar-1.11.8-3.deb
 cce6ed804da368246270903bce6174dd  tar-1.11.8-3.tar.gz
 0bac95ca8e4fc91be3b043825739f46e  tar-1.11.8-3.diff.gz
 12e9daa8f03172b6bc6af7686c98e8a1  tar-1.11.8-3.deb



newbie comments

1995-12-27 Thread Anand Kumria

I just recently had the chance to install, and help a few Linux newbie's 
install Debian. My comments pertain to 0.93R6 available on FTP sites. 
Overall we liked it, better than Yggdrasil, and slightly better than 
Slackware (though I put that down to familiarity). 

The new users I help install Debian found the interface change between 
the main install script and the timezone and partition sections a bit 
disorienting. Perhaps they can be dressed up like Slackware?

Also, we found the copy of curses, or ncurses, "ruined" dselect's screen, 
until we rebooted. Perhaps that can be automated.

We were also wondering in what package which/where are in? Since I (and
thus them) mainly use bash and it isn't part of the installed base. On
that topic, perhaps there could be an interface via the WWW so you could
type in the name of a program (say unzip), and see what package you need
to download to install it. 

Lastly, I had been reading the FSSTND and was wondering how the members of
the Debian team were interpreting it. Are you/will you be making available
packages that reside in /usr/local/ ? Although the FSSTND says that no
distribution should put anything there initially, it does not specify what
can/should happen post installation. I, personally, would like things in
/usr/local/ so I could NFS export/mount that particular tree to
numerous machines. 

Cheers,

Anand.

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  its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are
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Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-27 Thread Dominik Kubla

Hello Ian,

you might as well add binary-m68k since the first Debian/68k packages are
starting to appear. These packages as well as the necessary source patches
are currently stored at U-Mainz:

  ftp.uni-mainz.de:/pub/Linux/devel/debian/dontuse/m68k/

Curently the follwing packages are available for m68k:

  binutils-2.6.debgcc-aout-2.7.2.deb  libgxx-2.7.1.deb
  gcc-2.7.2.deb   gxx-2.7.2.deb   ncurses-1.9.8a.deb

And of course dpkg is available (only as nondebbin.tar.gz)

There is already a debian-68k mailing-list in place at Pixar.com (as you might
have noticed from the cc-line...)

As for the Alpha stuff: i am still wrestling with the subtilities of
bootstrapping Linux in an unsupported environment. Don't expect anything
before mid-January ...

Happy new year!
  Dominik

BTW. Could somebody please put me on the debian-devel list? I would make
 it easier for me ...



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-27 Thread Matthew Bailey

For those out there that are interested. I will make space available for 
these ports, and allow each group to maintain uploads for the subtree.

Please contact me if you are in need of an account for this use.

--
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107 Emmons Hall
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

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... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
is beyond the scope of this article.)





Re: Bug#2065: single user isn't

1995-12-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (H.J. Lu) wrote:
> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:49:53 -0500 (EST)
> From: "H.J. Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Bug#2065: single user isn't
> To: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > > Which brings up another question: in libc 5.2.18, struct utmp was changed.
> 
> That may be my last emai for a while :-(. The change was made
> in libc 5.2.10 and was documented in ChangeLog. Personally,
> I think programs should use the interface provided in
>  to access struct utmp, just like stdio. I am using
> rxvt and it works just fine.

Okay, but init is a special case, that's why I asked. It does some
more things with utmp, for example garbage cleanup.

> The ut_id field in struct utmp was changed from 2 to 4 bytes.
> Due to the padding, programs using the utmp interface do not
> have any problems.

I just checked, and sizeof(struct utmp) has indeed not changed. So
there is no binary incompatibility. Sorry for the inconvinience,
but I just thought I'd check first... init now supports 4 character
ID fields, if compiled with libc5. There will be a release early
next year...

> H.J.

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Re: Bug#2063: scsi driver sequence unreasonable

1995-12-27 Thread Jeff Noxon
IMHO, the fewer changes between Debian's kernels and the upstream
ones, the better...

> You are right, of course.  I changed it in 1.3.47 and the DPT (has
> NOTHING to do with the AHA drivers) and the Buslogic are at the top. 
> What other AHA-compatible do we have that should move?  I a mopen for
> suggestions.

I don't see why we should move any of them.  They're arranged in the
order they are in for two reasons: 1) to prevent probing problems (i.e.
BusLogic must come before Adaptec 154x), and 2) to allow the more
popular and/or problematic cards to come first.

It doesn't really matter if a 152X gets detected before a high-power
whiz-bang SCSI-matic 2010 PCI adapter, because you can still put root
on any SCSI controller you like.

If there is a _really_ good reason to change the probe order, we should
discuss it on the kernel and scsi channels, and get it changed in the
upstream source.

Remember: if you move probes around, earlier probes have a chance of
putting hardware in an unusable state, preventing later probes from
succeeding.

> Besides, with the nice support that Adaptec gives Linux users we should
> really re-locate the drivers to /dev/null anyway, but the Linux
> developer supporting these things IS a nice guy, so...

Adaptec provides free programming information on the 154X and 174X series,
as well as the AIC-6X60 chips (152X), so be nice...  I'm not thrilled with
their policy on current products, but they're still excellent products. :)

Merry Christmas!

Jeff



The new LILO not working?

1995-12-27 Thread Karl Ferguson
Hi All...

I remember seeing the new version of LILO coming out and it was marked that
it had to be with ELF etc etc.  I also noticed the "mbr" pacakge in the base
area for 1.0 - having an ELF system her I just upgraded to the latest of
everything, so effectively saying that all the relivent packages I need I've
installed the latest of.  Having said that:

I had a power failure about an hour ago.  The machine hung at the bootup with
"LI" so it had to be a problem with lilo.  Thank my lucky stars I have another
machine here with normal a.out that is a mirror of ftp.debian.org (1.0 as well)
otherwise I don't know what I'd do.  Ok, got the newest bootdisk from the
development tree onto a disk, booted it fine, I then wanted to mount via NFS
my hard drive on the other machine containg the mirror - to my SHOCK there
was *NO* NFS support in the kernel.  Ok, so I ftp'd the package (the old lilo
from the stable tree) de-installed "mbr" and then installed the lilo package
on top of the new one.  I then was able to reboot fine after saying Yes to
add a boot block.

I'm not sure if I was actually doing anything wrong, but I did have the latest
of everything installed and it broke on the reoobt as I said above (hence this
email)  Don't get me wrong, I upgraded Debian from an install of .93R5, and
when I tried to use both the custom bootdisk and normal bootdisk, I wasnt able
to mount any filesystems which was rather annoying (probobly because of the
newer versions of fsck etc) but if I didnt have my other computer here I
would've surely been doomed to all eternity and might've had to re-install
R5 over the top.

I wondered why NFS support wasnt in the bootdisk (is it meant to be?) otherwise
how are we to install over nfs?  Also might be handy to compile iso9660 for
some CDROMS that have debian on the for a cdrom install perhaps.  In any case
is anyone else seeing the problem with the new lilo/mbr packages from
the development trre under base that I've just got?

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Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1995-12-27 Thread Marek Michalkiewicz
Package: last
Version: 5-12

The GNU version of last doesn't make use of the ut_addr utmp field which
is supposed to contain the IP address for remote logins.  The size of
ut_host (16 chars) is too small and host names are often truncated.  The
IP address is the only reliable way to identify the remote host.

The BSD-derived last from the current util-linux supports ut_addr.
The remote address is stored in network byte order.  It is currently
not reliable either (login does a hostname lookup on the name passed
after the -h flag) but I have a working patch for telnetd/rlogind to
create an utmp entry for login (ut_addr filled in with the real remote
IP address from getpeername, avoiding one hostname lookup).  I will
make this patch available soon, after some testing.

BTW, it is probably too late to change "struct utmp" (more room for host
namei, tty) - do we need the SVR4 utmpx thing?

Marek