Re: Problems using WIN32 api

2003-11-14 Thread S. L.
Laurent,

[...]
> - are the /usr/lib/w32api/libXXX.a real static libs (with code)
>or only interface to the system DLLs?
[...]

Most of them are "interface to the system DLLs" (or import libs as a
previous post states). 
For a complete answer, one would "nm  | grep __imp"  on each of
them to see which is such an interface.
On my 1.3.x cygwin here, for your libuser32.a case, I have

"$ nm /lib/w32api/libuser32.a | grep __imp | wc -l
582
"

[...]
> - is someone interested in a glib/gtk+ cygwin package
>(not a native Win32 one)?
[...]

It seems not to be a general interest on this, as the posts related are
quite rare

Here, no longer than yesterday, I was in the state to cry out on this list
on the same topic, i.e. while building the same gtk+-2 I faced the problem of
(devel) libtool not being able to link (only) libuuid in the shared gdk.
Actually, before starting typing the message, I just recalled that there was a
single "undefined" error when tried to link without it, so I turned on the
patching-by-excluding/quick'n'dirty solution, which worked.

SLao

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A little problem with gcc cvs HEAD for cygwin, help needed...

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Joensson
I just wanted to ping the cygwin list for a little help... it's a
problem running the Ada testsuite in current gcc cvs HEAD under
cygwin... the problem relates to a shell script trying to use the
newly compiled gcc et al but end up using the system installed gcc...

maybe someone of you on this list can help out, pls see
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/13035 for more info.

Cheers,

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Re: A little problem with gcc cvs HEAD for cygwin, help needed...

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Joensson
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:09:56AM +0100, Christian Joensson wrote:
> I just wanted to ping the cygwin list for a little help... it's a
> problem running the Ada testsuite in current gcc cvs HEAD under
> cygwin... the problem relates to a shell script trying to use the
> newly compiled gcc et al but end up using the system installed gcc...
> 
> maybe someone of you on this list can help out, pls see
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/13035 for more info.

sorry, wrong link, see http://gcc.gnu.org/PR13035 ...

/ChJ

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Trouble in Compiling OpenGL-1.1.0-6 with Cygwin!

2003-11-14 Thread Alex MANTION
Hi everybody,

I am experiencing a trouble while I am trying to
compile OpenGl-1.1.0-6 from its sources available on
cygwin web site. I need this one to make Ghemical 1.5
working (for its glut component part [glutinit and so
on]).

When I do as indicating in the README.linux of this
package nothing happens (error message as usual ).

error :
'akefile:38:warning:overriding commands for target
'glsmap.dir
'akefile:30:warning;ignoring old commands for target
'glsmap.dir
Make : nothing to be done for 'Makefile'

Has anybody an idea to solve this trouble ? May I find
this glut extension somewhere else ?

Regards,

Alex M

Here are infos about my distribution
 Cygwin DLL version info:
DLL version: 1.5.5
DLL epoch: 19
DLL bad signal mask: 19005
DLL old termios: 5
DLL malloc env: 28
API major: 0
API minor: 94
Shared data: 3
DLL identifier: cygwin1
Mount registry: 2
Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
Program options name: Program Options
Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
Cygdrive default prefix: 
Build date: Sat Sep 20 16:31:15 EDT 2003
CVS tag: cr-0x9b
Shared id: cygwin1S3

infos about my compilator :
gcc 3.3.1-3OK
gcc-g++ 3.3.1-3OK
gcc-g77 3.3.1-3OK
gcc-mingw   20020817-5 OK
gcc-mingw-core  20031020-1 OK
gcc-mingw-g++   20031020-1 OK
gcc-mingw-g77   20031020-1 OK





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Re: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Patrick Eisenacher
man CPAN has this to offer:

# list all modules on my disk that have newer versions on CPAN
for $mod (CPAN::Shell->expand("Module","/./")){
  next unless $mod->inst_file;
  next if $mod->uptodate;
  printf "Module %s is installed as %s, could be updated to %s from C
PAN\n", $mod->id, $mod->inst_version, $mod->cpan_version;
}
which gives you a list of all installed modules, including the 
distribution ones.

HTH,
Patrick
Brian Dessent schrieb:
zzapper wrote:

Peter,


cpan
cpan>

How do you list modules already installed?


There's no definitive way to do this.  If you just want to see if you
have the Foo::Bar module, you can use "perl -MFoo::Bar -e 1" and if you
get an error then you need to install Foo::Bar.
You can also try the following script which uses the ExtUtils::Installed
module, but I have found that its output is sometimes misleading, in
that it will not display base (stock included) modules.  And I'm not
sure if it knows about modules that are installed through means other
than CPAN (e.g. through your distro's package manager.)
#!/usr/bin/perl

use ExtUtils::Installed;
my $instmod = ExtUtils::Installed->new();
foreach my $module ($instmod->modules()) {
my $version = $instmod->version($module) || "???";
   print "$module -- $version\n";
}
Brian



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Re: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Patrick Eisenacher
or quick and dirty:

perl -e 'use CPAN; CPAN::Shell->r;'

HTH,
Patrick
Brian Dessent schrieb:

zzapper wrote:

Peter,


cpan
cpan>

How do you list modules already installed?


There's no definitive way to do this.  If you just want to see if you
have the Foo::Bar module, you can use "perl -MFoo::Bar -e 1" and if you
get an error then you need to install Foo::Bar.
You can also try the following script which uses the ExtUtils::Installed
module, but I have found that its output is sometimes misleading, in
that it will not display base (stock included) modules.  And I'm not
sure if it knows about modules that are installed through means other
than CPAN (e.g. through your distro's package manager.)
#!/usr/bin/perl

use ExtUtils::Installed;
my $instmod = ExtUtils::Installed->new();
foreach my $module ($instmod->modules()) {
my $version = $instmod->version($module) || "???";
   print "$module -- $version\n";
}
Brian


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remote message logging from syslogd

2003-11-14 Thread Mario . Schuepany
Hi!

I want to log remote messages from linux machines on my cygwin machine. 
There
is a version of syslogd for cygwin available but the functionality to 
receive remote 
messages is missing.

Does anyone have an idea for a different approach to achieve this 
functionality?

Mario

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Bug in gzip's stdout handling

2003-11-14 Thread Thomas Hammer
Hi.

I run the latest version of cygwin, with gzip, on WindowsXP SP1 and have a
problem with gzip. The command

  $ cat binaryfile.bin | gzip -c > bin.gz

produces an invalid .gz file:

  $ gunzip bin.gz

  gunzip: bin.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error

  gunzip: bin.gz: invalid compressed data--length error

If I do

  gzip binaryfile.bin

everything works as expected - i.e. the resulting .gz file is valid.

If I do this instead:

  cat binaryfile.bin > acopy.bin

The two .bin files are identical.

My gzip version:

  $ gzip --version
  gzip 1.3.5
  (2002-09-30)
  Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation
  Copyright 1992-1993 Jean-loup Gailly
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
  You may redistribute copies of this program
  under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
  For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING.
  Compilation options:
  DIRENT UTIME STDC_HEADERS HAVE_UNISTD_H HAVE_MEMORY_H HAVE_STRING_H
HAVE_LSTAT ASMV
  Written by Jean-loup Gailly.

My conclusion is that gzip's handling of stdout is broken in some way.


The reason I report this problem, instead of just avoiding it by not using
the -c option for gzip, is that I discovered the problem while running make
dist on a Makefile.in created by automake. And it's automake that creates
the gzip command line. I'll send a patch to the automake people and ask them
to fix this - but since it's really gzip that is broken, I think it should
be fixed here too.

I think you could fix this by setting the mode for the filehandle for stdout
to O_BINARY, i.e. something like this:

#if defined (_WIN32)
setmode(FileHandle, O_BINARY);  /* Make sure it is in binary mode.
*/
#endif

It would be nice if you could look into it.

Best Regards,

Thomas Hammer
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Re: "Cannot read: No space left on device" accessing DDS3 drive on W2K

2003-11-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:46:13PM -0500, Sean Brown wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Thanks for the pointer.  Both drives are DDS4 so both support density
> 0x25 (DDS3) which is the density of the tapes.  Still no luck but am
> continuing in my search for a resolution.  

It could be a problem with the drive, though.

Anyway, please set the blocksize to 0 and strace tar.  Send the
strace to this list.  At one point in the file is perhaps an
intersting Windows error number.

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Re: bash v2.05b.0 + nmake v7.10.3077 problem

2003-11-14 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:21:33PM +0100, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:
>  Not that I see this to be important;
> 
>  1. I see CRLF line endings.
That confirms that there is something wrong elsewhere (probably at my ISP or
someplace between there and the Cygwin list) as where you see "cr nl", I see  
"nl nl".. AFAIK, none of the software I use does any mangling in this fashion
(and I haven't had the problem before..)

>  2. No double linefeeds in 'less' nor
> in the old Win-GUI editor I use (name: PFE).
I've downloaded the file from the archives just to make sure I have the right
one somewhere. It doesn't change much, though: I still don't see much of 
anything that might be suspicious in the file. A minimal testcase would be
nice..

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Re: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread zzapper
Thanx,
What the doctor ordered!!

I took one of the suggested Perl Scripts and use thus:-

listmod.pl | grep -i pod

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bug: can't read com1 on windows 98

2003-11-14 Thread Robert Bon
Hello cygwin users,

can't read com1 on windows 98

a simple test case.

redirect stdout to com1
ls > com1
it works fine.

redirect stdin to com1
cat< com1
works fine on a windows XP system.
Bug with Windows 98 nothing is ever received.

Tested on de same PC, same cygwin and new installed windows.

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MySQL in rxvt terminal

2003-11-14 Thread Ralf Berger
Hello,

is it possible to use the standard MySQL client in a rxvt terminal window?

While all is working fine in a cmd.exe-window (e.g. started with bash.bat), I got no 
prompt in the rxvt window. It seems, that no regular input reaches the MySQL client, 
but it is possible to cancel the operation, when I press Ctrl-C.

I would appreciate any help in this direction, to get rid of the ugly cmd.exe-Window.

Regards

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RE: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Peter J. Acklam
Doug VanLeuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>#!/usr/bin/perl
>
>use CPAN;
># list all modules on my disk and note the newer versions
>for $mod (CPAN::Shell->expand("Module","/./")){
> next unless $mod->inst_file;
> # here only when installed
> if ($mod->inst_version eq "undef") {
> printf "%s :No VERSION\n", $mod->id;
> }
> elsif ($mod->uptodate){
> printf "%s %s\n", $mod->id, $mod->inst_version
> }
> else {
> # here when not up to date
> printf "%s %s, NEW VERSION=%s\n",
> $mod->id, $mod->inst_version, $mod->cpan_version;
> }

That will miss all modules that don't exist on CPAN.

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RE: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Peter J. Acklam
Patrick Eisenacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>man CPAN has this to offer:
>
># list all modules on my disk that have newer versions on CPAN
>for $mod (CPAN::Shell->expand("Module","/./")){
>   next unless $mod->inst_file;
>   next if $mod->uptodate;
>   printf "Module %s is installed as %s, could be updated to %s from C
>PAN\n", $mod->id, $mod->inst_version, $mod->cpan_version;
>}
>
>which gives you a list of all installed modules, including the
>distribution ones.

No, no!  It only lists modules for which there exists a newer
version on CPAN.

Peter

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Tiff error : unknown field with tag 317

2003-11-14 Thread zze-BDE balg011 VAUCHER Laurent DvSI/SIReS/GRE
  Well. I reinstalled completely cygwin packages from scratch
to be sure and it seems quite easy to reproduce. The current
tiff libraries don't seem able to fully understand tiff images
supplied by the WindowMaker package. It is particularly visible
in the window maker configuration application (/usr/X11R6/GNUStep/
Apps/WPrefs.app/WPrefs), since almost all icons are broken or
blank.


Similarly, the following command

> tiffinfo /usr/X11R6/GNUStep/Apps/WPrefs.app/tiff/expert.tiff

produces 

TIFFReadDirectory: Warning, /usr/X11R6/GNUstep/Apps/WPrefs.app/
tiff/expert.tiff: unknown field with tag 317 (0x13d) encountered.

  According to the Tiff specs, tag 317 is for Predictor, and that
seems to be used mainly by LZW compression. Might it be a 
problem in the GIF library ?

  I did not have this error until I fully reinstalled Cygwin
because I must have compiled gif/tiff/jpeg library by myself or
something like this.


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a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Jason Tishler
After upgrading to the official a2ps package from my private 4.13 build,
I started to notice the a2ps header is clipped off from the top of the
page.  If I revert back to my build, then all is well again.

Has anyone else noticed this problem too?  Or, is it just me?

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Hello Gary,

Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 7:57:42 PM, you wrote:

> I tried installing several perl modules today, but make test failed on
> several in the LWP package and for HTML::Parser etc. Couldn't find modules
> I'd already installed in the INC path. With HTML::Parser it couldn't run gcc
> because it was not found. How do you use CPAN under cygwin? Is there a web
> page that outlines how to configure CPAN for cygwin, is that what is needed?
> Are others having problems and how did you fix them. I successfully install
> some and have force installed others and notice that if you do a perldoc
> perllocal you only get the first three modules listed, whereas if you do a
> more on the perllocal file, you see a lot more listed. What's up with that,
> can anyonw explain?

Just start the `cpan` script:
$ /usr/bin/cpan

It asks some questions to configure itself when it runs the first time.


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Re: Bug in gzip's stdout handling

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Thomas Hammer wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I run the latest version of cygwin, with gzip, on WindowsXP SP1 and have a
> problem with gzip.

Please see  for guidelines on how to
report Cygwin problems.

> The command
>
>   $ cat binaryfile.bin | gzip -c > bin.gz
>
> produces an invalid .gz file:
>
>   $ gunzip bin.gz
>   gunzip: bin.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
>   gunzip: bin.gz: invalid compressed data--length error
>
> If I do
>
>   gzip binaryfile.bin
>
> everything works as expected - i.e. the resulting .gz file is valid.
>
> If I do this instead:
>
>   cat binaryfile.bin > acopy.bin
>
> The two .bin files are identical.
>
> My gzip version:
>
>   $ gzip --version
>   gzip 1.3.5
>   (2002-09-30)
>   Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation
>   Copyright 1992-1993 Jean-loup Gailly
>   This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
>   You may redistribute copies of this program
>   under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
>   For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING.
>   Compilation options:
>   DIRENT UTIME STDC_HEADERS HAVE_UNISTD_H HAVE_MEMORY_H HAVE_STRING_H HAVE_LSTAT ASMV
>   Written by Jean-loup Gailly.
>
> My conclusion is that gzip's handling of stdout is broken in some way.

I bet you have a text mount.  Please *attach* the output of "cygcheck
-svr", as per  - this will confirm the
guess.

> The reason I report this problem, instead of just avoiding it by not using
> the -c option for gzip, is that I discovered the problem while running make
> dist on a Makefile.in created by automake. And it's automake that creates
> the gzip command line. I'll send a patch to the automake people and ask them
> to fix this - but since it's really gzip that is broken, I think it should
> be fixed here too.
>
> I think you could fix this by setting the mode for the filehandle for stdout
> to O_BINARY, i.e. something like this:
>
> #if defined (_WIN32)
> setmode(FileHandle, O_BINARY);  /* Make sure it is in binary mode. */
> #endif

FYI, Cygwin doesn't define _WIN32.  Besides, the above is not a proper
patch.
Igor

> It would be nice if you could look into it.
>
> Best Regards,
> Thomas Hammer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread zzapper
Hi
If one chooses to use zsh rather than bash, do you have to rewrite all
your scripts?. How steep is the learning curve??



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Re: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jason Tishler wrote:

> After upgrading to the official a2ps package from my private 4.13 build,
> I started to notice the a2ps header is clipped off from the top of the
> page.  If I revert back to my build, then all is well again.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this problem too?  Or, is it just me?

Yep.  See below.
Igor

--- /etc/a2ps-site.cfg-orig 2003-08-22 12:12:19.00100 -0400
+++ /etc/a2ps-site.cfg  2003-11-11 10:43:44.837233000 -0500
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 Options: --encoding=latin1

 # Default medium
-Options: --medium=A4
+Options: --medium=Letter

 #
 # 2)   Your printers   #

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RE: Bug in gzip's stdout handling

2003-11-14 Thread Thomas Hammer
> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14. november 2003 16:28
> To: Thomas Hammer
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> Subject: Re: Bug in gzip's stdout handling
>

Hi Igor.

Thanks for responding so promptly :).

<...>

>
> I bet you have a text mount.  Please *attach* the output of "cygcheck
> -svr", as per  - this will confirm the
> guess.

cygcheck.out attached.

I didn't find anything about any drives being mounted as text, though.

Two small bits of info that might or might not have some value:

1) I believe this has worked earlier (i.e. 6 months ago) for a colleague of
mine, running a recent version of cygwin. Which means that something could
have been broken in cygwin after that, or (more likely) that something for
some reason is configured differently on my system.

2) When I installed cygwin, I was asked if I wanted the tools to support
Unix-style newlines or DOS-style newlines. I answered "DOS-style". I did
reinstall cygwin, specifying "Unix-style" newlines this time, and had the
same problem though.

.Thomas


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RE: FYI: bladeenc - fairly easy port.

2003-11-14 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
> From: Hannu E K Nevalainen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:26 AM

MOTIVATION:

Gerrit, about a Windows-native version:
> >  How fast is it compared with the Cygwin version?
>
Hannu:
> Answer: Approximately 20-40% faster in "cmd native mode"
>
> IMO the better "compatibility" with the other cygwin tools is worth more
> than the extra speed.


 Well, here it finally is; the patch(es?) for the executable version - for
those that have interest in it. (using: bladeenc 0.94.2 & gcc 3.3.1)

Mostly due to the usual excuse (i.e. "lack of time") I have chosen to not
create a cygwin package. A secondary reason; This might also be problematic
due to mp3-licensing.

 Feel free to use the patch as you wish. I *might* 'enhance' it further, but
don't count on it. ;-)  e.g. I've not tried -mno-cygwin yet ;-) FWIW.

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Re: Perl CPAN module help

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:25:01PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
>Hello Gary,
>
>Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 7:57:42 PM, you wrote:
>
>> I tried installing several perl modules today, but make test failed on
>> several in the LWP package and for HTML::Parser etc. Couldn't find modules
>> I'd already installed in the INC path. With HTML::Parser it couldn't run gcc
>> because it was not found. How do you use CPAN under cygwin? Is there a web
>> page that outlines how to configure CPAN for cygwin, is that what is needed?
>> Are others having problems and how did you fix them. I successfully install
>> some and have force installed others and notice that if you do a perldoc
>> perllocal you only get the first three modules listed, whereas if you do a
>> more on the perllocal file, you see a lot more listed. What's up with that,
>> can anyonw explain?
>
>Just start the `cpan` script:
>$ /usr/bin/cpan
>
>It asks some questions to configure itself when it runs the first time.

Is there a cygwin question or observation somewhere?  It seems like we've
wandered into territory which would be best served in a forum devoted
strictly to perl.

cgf

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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:31:51PM +, zzapper wrote:
>If one chooses to use zsh rather than bash, do you have to rewrite all
>your scripts?. How steep is the learning curve??

http://www.zsh.org/ should have a wealth of information on this.
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Re: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Jason Tishler
Igor,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:34:36AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jason Tishler wrote:
> > Has anyone else noticed this problem too?  Or, is it just me?
> 
> Yep.  See below.

Doh!  Thanks!

All,

Should a2ps be configured to default to "Letter" instead of "A4"?

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Problem wit Downloading Setup.exe

2003-11-14 Thread rmurfe
When I complete the download of the new setup from the cygwin site and
other mirror sites for the new version 1.5.. the download stalls at 98%
then it complete itself.  When I try to run the application in Window
XP, I get an error message "This is not a valid Win32 app".  

Could you tell me what I am doing wrong or where I can get a working
version of the application?  Thank you. 


Robert Murphy 
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RE: Bug in gzip's stdout handling

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
I've removed  from this discussion.  So far this
is Cygwin-related, and you can update them later on the results if it
turns out to be a generic gzip issue.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Thomas Hammer wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 14. november 2003 16:28
> > To: Thomas Hammer
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Bug in gzip's stdout handling
> >
>
> Hi Igor.
>
> Thanks for responding so promptly :).
>
> <...>
>
> >
> > I bet you have a text mount.  Please *attach* the output of "cygcheck
> > -svr", as per  - this will confirm the
> > guess.
>
> cygcheck.out attached.
>
> I didn't find anything about any drives being mounted as text, though.
>
> Two small bits of info that might or might not have some value:
>
> 1) I believe this has worked earlier (i.e. 6 months ago) for a colleague of
> mine, running a recent version of cygwin. Which means that something could
> have been broken in cygwin after that, or (more likely) that something for
> some reason is configured differently on my system.
>
> 2) When I installed cygwin, I was asked if I wanted the tools to support
> Unix-style newlines or DOS-style newlines. I answered "DOS-style". I did
> reinstall cygwin, specifying "Unix-style" newlines this time, and had the
> same problem though.
>
> .Thomas

(2) shows that you used to have text mounts.  Your cygcheck.out shows
binary mounts, so that's probably not the problem.

Please try the following:  "sed '' binaryfile.bin > acopy.bin" and compare
the files.  Also "echo | sed '' > test.out; od -c test.out" and "perl -e
'print q{ }x2560' | gzip -c > test.gz; od -c test.gz".
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Re: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jason Tishler wrote:

> Igor,
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:34:36AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jason Tishler wrote:
> > > Has anyone else noticed this problem too?  Or, is it just me?
> >
> > Yep.  See below.
>
> Doh!  Thanks!
>
> All,
>
> Should a2ps be configured to default to "Letter" instead of "A4"?
>
> Jason

Yes, IMO - see .
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RE: "Cannot read: No space left on device" accessing DDS3 drive on W2K

2003-11-14 Thread Sean Brown
Peter/Corinna,

Well, it was an ID-10-T error.  A reboot solved the problem.  Evidently,
Cygwin requires a reboot on W2K before all functionality is available.
I assumed, since I was reading the drive and able to get status
information, that a reboot was unneccesary.  After rebooting the server,
the drive was fully accessible and I had no further errors reading tapes
created on the Linux system.

Thanks for taking the time assist.

Sean

> -Original Message-
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: "Cannot read: No space left on device" accessing 
> DDS3 drive on W2K
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:46:13PM -0500, Sean Brown wrote:
> > Peter,
> > 
> > Thanks for the pointer.  Both drives are DDS4 so both 
> support density
> > 0x25 (DDS3) which is the density of the tapes.  Still no luck but am
> > continuing in my search for a resolution.  
> 
> It could be a problem with the drive, though.
> 
> Anyway, please set the blocksize to 0 and strace tar.  Send the
> strace to this list.  At one point in the file is perhaps an
> intersting Windows error number.
> 
> Corinna
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RE: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Hughes, Bill
Sent: 14 November 2003 16:30 From: Igor Pechtchanski
..snip..
> > Should a2ps be configured to default to "Letter" instead of "A4"?
..snip..
>Yes, IMO - see .

Why? It doesn't seem evident from the referenced posting.
If it's a USA v Rest Of World Thing fine (or not), but is there a technical
reason?
A2ps seems to have originated in Europe which would explain the default to
A4...

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Re: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Jason Tishler
Igor,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:29:32AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jason Tishler wrote:
> > Should a2ps be configured to default to "Letter" instead of "A4"?
> 
> Yes, IMO -

Thanks for your concurrence.

> see .

BTW, you caught me reading my mailing lists alphabetically again. :,)

Jason

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RE: a2ps header clipping problem

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Hughes, Bill wrote:

> Sent: 14 November 2003 16:30 From: Igor Pechtchanski
> ..snip..
> > > Should a2ps be configured to default to "Letter" instead of "A4"?
> ..snip..
> >Yes, IMO - see .
>
> Why? It doesn't seem evident from the referenced posting. If it's a USA
> v Rest Of World Thing fine (or not), but is there a technical reason?
> A2ps seems to have originated in Europe which would explain the default
> to A4...

Umm, yes, you're quite right.  I should change that line to a comment
instead (just so us USA people know how to fix our margins).
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Re: "Cannot read: No space left on device" accessing DDS3 drive on W2K

2003-11-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:40:25AM -0500, Sean Brown wrote:
> Peter/Corinna,
> 
> Well, it was an ID-10-T error.  A reboot solved the problem.  Evidently,
> Cygwin requires a reboot on W2K before all functionality is available.

Nope, wrong assumption.  Your machine did require a reboot for some
unknown reason but it's not Cygwin which needs it.

Corinna

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RE: using rsync in a sceduled script

2003-11-14 Thread Bakken, Luke
> > Rsync works perfectly everytime from the command line, but 
> sometimes after
> > the rsync operation completes when it is run using a 
> script/scheduler, I
> > get this error and rsync sits running (hung) till I 
> manually kill it.
> > 
> > rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at /tmp/rsync-
> > 2.5.6/main.c(1045)
> > 
> > I logged stdout and stderr from the script, and here is 
> what it looks
> > like:
> > receiving file list ... done
> > wrote 97 bytes  read 1569 bytes  175.37 bytes/sec
> > total size is 1441861  speedup is 865.46
> > rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at /tmp/rsync-
> > 2.5.6/main.c(1045)
> > 
> > Is it a bug? Is it me?
> 
> 
> I've fought this for awhile now. I can't figure it out. I 
> copied the script
> to a linux machine and it works flawlessly, same rsync 
> server. The command
> that is the root of all evil (my problem, in cygwin) :
> 
> /usr/bin/rsync -qaz --partial --delete --timeout=4 \
> rsync://server.xyz.com/o/test/ /cygdrive/d/remote/backup.current/o/

rsync doesn't work perfectly with cygwin in some situations. Search the
archives for more info. I installed the latest dll snapshot and it
seemed to resolve some of the hanging issues I've seen.

Luke

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Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Brian . Kelly
Will the next cygwin1.dll release have cgf's select() fix? And when is the
next version planned for release?
(I know a snap-shot is available).

Brian Kelly



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.exe handling change in fileutils-4.1-2

2003-11-14 Thread Doru Carastan
In reply to: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-11/msg00478.html
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It is normal to see "touch foo.exe; cp foo bar" fail. You just created 
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The current versions of autoconf and automake define and use 
EXEEXT=.exe. Check your Makefile.am or Makefile.in files and add 
$(EXEEXT) to all commands that involve executables.

Good luck,

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Re: .exe handling change in fileutils-4.1-2

2003-11-14 Thread Nathan J. Williams
Doru Carastan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In reply to: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-11/msg00478.html
> --
> 
> It is normal to see "touch foo.exe; cp foo bar" fail. You just created
> foo.exe, which is definitely not foo. Check with "ls -l".

Yes, I'm aware that foo.exe is not foo, but fileutils-4.1-1 contained
code which special-cased this situation, IMO very usefully. What I
would like to see is a ChangeLog entry or CVS log message or something
that corresponds to and explains the removal of that code.

> The current versions of autoconf and automake define and use
> EXEEXT=.exe. Check your Makefile.am or Makefile.in files and add
> $(EXEEXT) to all commands that involve executables.

The build system in question is not based on autoconf/automake.

- Nathan

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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:52:03PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Will the next cygwin1.dll release have cgf's select() fix?

I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.

>And when is the next version planned for release?

Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.
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Re: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Weinberger
> Unfortunately the mutt version 1.4-1 doesn't find the cygcrypto.dll
> and cygssl.dll while there are only cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll and
> cygssl-0-9-7.dll. If I rename these dlls mutt dumps and I didn't test
> any further. But I would like to use a cygwin-supported mutt with
> maildir support to.
>  
> Gruss Olaf Föllinger
> 

At least this works in my installation. I´ve cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll, cygcrypt-
0.dll and cygcrypto.dll in my bin directory.

Maybe mutt 1.4-1 uses an older version? My cygcrypto.dll is dated 11 Apr 
2003.

Christian


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Re: 1.5.5-1 command substitution hangs (0% cpu) on XP

2003-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Ruscoe


> -Original Message-
> From: Geoffrey Ruscoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:03 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: 1.5.5-1 command substitution hangs (0% cpu) on XP
> 
> 
> I'm sorry I posted this problem a second time (under this new 
> name) ... I thought my first attempt was too shotty and was 
> probably misnamed.  I was trying to continue the discussion 
> that I had found that most closely matched (blah, blah).


I don't think I've been forgiven yet ;)


> So I thought about trying an older version of cygwin to see 
> if that would cure what ails (should be ale's as in free beer 
> in my case) me, but I couldn't find snap shots of an older 
> release (maybe 1.3.22-1).  Is there a way to get this or 
> would this not be helpful.


I guess this is not a good idea


> Really, if anybody has any hints or things for me to try it 
> would be very greatly appreciated.  It seems so strange that 
> I would be the only one having this problem even after the 
> new version of bash.


Either this is a real stumper, or is so simple that ~anyone~ [read: I]
should have already figured it out, or ... What I would guess is that even
though I searched and searched, read the faq, read the user guide, and read
the posting guidelines I have offended all you hard working people -- and
thus haven't deserved response.  I'm sure I deserve such retribution, I'm
just not sure why ;).  To quote a famous bear: Oh bother.

Either way, keep up the good work, I have enjoyed using cygwin on many other
occasions (when I have been forced to use m$ winbloz).


Cheers


> Thanks again,
> Geoff
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Geoffrey Ruscoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:12 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: 1.5.5-1 command substitution hangs (0% cpu) on XP
> > 
> > 
> > I have seen a number of references to this problem, but none
> > of the fixes seems to work.  I have used cygwin on many 
> > systems and not had this problem.
> > 
> > Basically any form of command substitution hangs with 0% cpu
> > usage.  Usually after a fresh reboot, the problem will not 
> > occur for the first couple times I do it and then once the 
> > first command substitution hangs, none of them work again 
> > until a reboot.
> > 
> > Simple commands such as
> > Echo `echo hi`
> > Or
> > echo `date`
> > Or 
> > The same using $(date), etc.
> > 
> > Have the same results as the post install scripts.
> > 
> > On this computer the setup has never completely worked always
> > stopping on the post install scripts.
> > 
> > I can see the sh.exe processes in the task manager and have
> > to kill them off.  As I do this the progress meter of setup 
> > will continue until I have killed all of the locked sh 
> > processes and the setup finally finishes.
> > 
> > I have tried
> > * the recent version of bash that was offered here
> > * giving everyone full rights to cygwin and the entire c drive.
> > * setting USER and HOME
> > * making sure there are no spaces in either
> > * various settings for CYGWIN (thought I had it there after a 
> > reboot). Now my CYGWIN is just: ntsec
> > 
> > here is my
> > bash-2.05b$ uname -a
> > CYGWIN_NT-5.1 Consultant01 1.5.5(0.94/3/2) 2003-09-20 16:31 
> > i686 unknown unknown Cygwin
> > 
> > And my cygcheck -svr is attached.
> > 
> > The hang script hangs with both versions of bash (although
> > not the first time or two after the fresh reboot).
> > 
> > I'm not sure what to try next.  If anyone can point me to a
> > document that might help, or if you have any suggestions to 
> > try or some more information I can provide, it would be 
> > greatly appreciated.  And I apologize for having to ask for 
> > help on what I am sure is a EBCAC.  I have never had this 
> > problem before.  
> > 
> > Also important to note:  I think everything was working fine
> > until the XP downloaded and installed some update it 
> > "needed."  But it is too late to verify that.  I have deleted 
> > cygwin and reinstalled it several times (including removing 
> > the regedit entries.
> > 
> > Thanks again for anybody's help,
> > 
> > Geoff
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Trouble in Compiling OpenGL-1.1.0-6 with Cygwin!

2003-11-14 Thread Brian Ford
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Alex MANTION wrote:

> I am experiencing a trouble while I am trying to
> compile OpenGl-1.1.0-6 from its sources available on
> cygwin web site. I need this one to make Ghemical 1.5
> working (for its glut component part [glutinit and so
> on]).
>
The binary opengl package contains glut.  You should not need to compile
it yourself unless you need to change the glut source code.

Please install the current binary opengl package (version 1.1.0-7) and
read /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/opengl-1.1.0-7.README for usage information.

> When I do as indicating in the README.linux of this
> package nothing happens (error message as usual ).
>
Don't do that.  Cygwin is not Linux, although it has many similar
features.

IIRC, Cygwin's glut is compiled using MSVC++.

> Has anybody an idea to solve this trouble ? May I find
> this glut extension somewhere else ?
>
In the binary opengl package, yes.

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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Brian . Kelly

> I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.

cvs - as opposed to setup.exe

So I take it I'm wrong and can get the select() fix via default setup.exe?

> Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.

Is there such a thing as a standard "non-flip" answer?

BK





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>Will the next cygwin1.dll release have cgf's select() fix?

I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.

>And when is the next version planned for release?

Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.
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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Brian Ford
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.
>
> cvs - as opposed to setup.exe
>
What do you think the cvs repository is for?

> So I take it I'm wrong and can get the select() fix via default setup.exe?
>
Not now, but the next release will be based off cvs.  Doh!

That is what snapshots are for, to test for a yet to be determined
future release.

> > Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.
>
> Is there such a thing as a standard "non-flip" answer?
>
Cygwin is a voluteer effort.  Releases do not happen on a schedule.
 Volunteer yourself, or take what you get.

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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:10:53PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.
>>
>>cvs - as opposed to setup.exe
>
>What do you think the cvs repository is for?
>
>>So I take it I'm wrong and can get the select() fix via default
>>setup.exe?
>>
>Not now, but the next release will be based off cvs.  Doh!
>
>That is what snapshots are for, to test for a yet to be determined
>future release.
>
>>>Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.
>>
>>Is there such a thing as a standard "non-flip" answer?
>>
>Cygwin is a voluteer effort.  Releases do not happen on a schedule.
>Volunteer yourself, or take what you get.

Gold star for Brian!

cgf

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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Brian Ford
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:10:53PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
> >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Gold star for Brian!
>
Thanks!  But, be carefull.  We're both Brian :D.

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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, zzapper wrote:

> Hi
> If one chooses to use zsh rather than bash, do you have to rewrite all
> your scripts?. How steep is the learning curve??

While somethings are distinctly different between bash and zsh, and lot
of bash scripts will run under zsh.  But, why not use both?  I am an
advocate for zsh, being the Cygwin maintainer and all, but I've always
felt that you should use the right tool for the right job.  Choice of
shell is rather a personal thing.  Choose the shell which is right for
you and your usage.

Regarding the learning curve.  You can take most of your bash (or csh or
ksh) knowledge and apply it to zsh.  As I said, there are differences and
really the man/info pages are the best place to discover that.  The
Cygwin package comes with some sample source/profile files
(/usr/share/doc/zsh-4.1.1/StartupFiles/) which you can start with.  And,
I am happy to answer any questions you may have concering zsh.

> zzapper

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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Brian . Kelly

> Gold star for Brian!

Please - even thankless ungrateful lamprey-eel me knows you're not really
serious about giving your tag team coat-tailer a *real* gold star for this!
(I'll believe it when I see it on the website).

-bk





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Subject:Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?


On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:10:53PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>I'm wondering what you think the term "snapshot" means.
>>
>>cvs - as opposed to setup.exe
>
>What do you think the cvs repository is for?
>
>>So I take it I'm wrong and can get the select() fix via default
>>setup.exe?
>>
>Not now, but the next release will be based off cvs.  Doh!
>
>That is what snapshots are for, to test for a yet to be determined
>future release.
>
>>>Standard flip answer: Definitely by December 2004.
>>
>>Is there such a thing as a standard "non-flip" answer?
>>
>Cygwin is a voluteer effort.  Releases do not happen on a schedule.
>Volunteer yourself, or take what you get.

Gold star for Brian!

cgf

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insight debugger locks up

2003-11-14 Thread y2bismil


Hi all,

i'm using the insight debugger from the lastest cygwin package.  It seems to be
locking up when trying to step through code.  The following program isolates the
issue on my system

**
#include 
#include 
#include  
#include 
#include 

int main()
{
   int handle;
   handle= creat("hello.txt", 0);
   if (handle == -1)
   {
  printf("Unable to creat file hello.txt\r\n");
   }

   write(handle, "Hello\r\n",7);
   close(handle);

   handle= open("hello.txt", O_RDWR|O_BINARY, S_IREAD | S_IWRITE);
   if (handle == -1)
   {
  printf("Unable to open file hello.txt\r\n");
   }
   write(handle, "urdum\r\n",7);
   close(handle);

  while(1)
 {
char c = kbhit();
   if(c)
   {
c = getch();
char buffer[12];
buffer[0] = c;
buffer[1] = '\0';
printf(buffer);
break;
   }

 }
}


Compile line:

g++ -g -mno-cygwin -isystemC:/cygwin/usr/include/mingw -o main.exe  main.cpp
**
What I do:
Start the insight debugger.  Use Next (not even step into).  Stepping over this
line:  handle= creat("hello.txt", 0); causes a lockup of insight.  Yet, I get
the printfs:

printf("Unable to creat file hello.txt\r\n");
printf("Unable to open file hello.txt\r\n").

My problem first arose after trying out kbhit, which locks up.  Then I went to
my little file test program and it has the same problem.
Any ideas?

Yamin


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Re: insight debugger locks up

2003-11-14 Thread y2bismil
lol,

Weird.  It appears it is a kbhit problem.  For some reason even on that line way
up top, if I just press a key on the console screen from the debugger, the
program continues.  But stepping through appears to be messed up.  I have to put
breakpoints everywhere.

Is there some incompatibility with stepping through code and kbhit.

Yamin

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> i'm using the insight debugger from the lastest cygwin package.  It seems to
> be
> locking up when trying to step through code.  The following program isolates
> the
> issue on my system
> 
> **
> #include 
> #include 
> #include  
> #include 
> #include 
> 
> int main()
> {
>int handle;
>handle= creat("hello.txt", 0);
>if (handle == -1)
>{
>   printf("Unable to creat file hello.txt\r\n");
>}
> 
>write(handle, "Hello\r\n",7);
>close(handle);
> 
>handle= open("hello.txt", O_RDWR|O_BINARY, S_IREAD | S_IWRITE);
>if (handle == -1)
>{
>   printf("Unable to open file hello.txt\r\n");
>}
>write(handle, "urdum\r\n",7);
>close(handle);
> 
>   while(1)
>  {
>   char c = kbhit();
>if(c)
>{
> c = getch();
> char buffer[12];
> buffer[0] = c;
> buffer[1] = '\0';
> printf(buffer);
> break;
>}
> 
>  }
> }
> 
> 
> Compile line:
> 
> g++ -g -mno-cygwin -isystemC:/cygwin/usr/include/mingw -o main.exe  main.cpp
> **
> What I do:
> Start the insight debugger.  Use Next (not even step into).  Stepping over
> this
> line:  handle= creat("hello.txt", 0); causes a lockup of insight.  Yet, I
> get
> the printfs:
> 
> printf("Unable to creat file hello.txt\r\n");
> printf("Unable to open file hello.txt\r\n").
> 
> My problem first arose after trying out kbhit, which locks up.  Then I went
> to
> my little file test program and it has the same problem.
> Any ideas?
> 
> Yamin
> 
> 
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Re: Will next cygwin1.dll release have the select() fix?

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:18:36PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:10:53PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
>> >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Gold star for Brian!
>>
>Thanks!  But, be carefull.  We're both Brian :D.

I thought of that a millisecond after sending the email:

"Gold star for Brian Ford!"

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Whiny CYGWIN user needs help

2003-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Ruscoe
Another for the acronyms page?

CYGWIN: Caught You Giving Whiny Info? Not!

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Re: Trouble in Compiling OpenGL-1.1.0-6 with Cygwin!

2003-11-14 Thread Andre Bleau
Brian Ford wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Alex MANTION wrote:

> I am experiencing a trouble while I am trying to
> compile OpenGl-1.1.0-6 from its sources available on
> cygwin web site. I need this one to make Ghemical 1.5
> working (for its glut component part [glutinit and so
> on]).
>
The binary opengl package contains glut.  You should not need to compile
it yourself unless you need to change the glut source code.
Right.

Please install the current binary opengl package (version 1.1.0-7) and
read /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/opengl-1.1.0-7.README for usage information.
Well that file contains instructions about how to rebuild the package. 
Usage info is rather in /usr/share/doc/opengl-1.1.0/README.txt .


> When I do as indicating in the README.linux of this
> package nothing happens (error message as usual ).
>
Don't do that.  Cygwin is not Linux, although it has many similar
features.
IIRC, Cygwin's glut is compiled using MSVC++.
Right.


> Has anybody an idea to solve this trouble ? May I find
> this glut extension somewhere else ?
>
In the binary opengl package, yes.
Right.

Kudos to Brian, who has often offered fast and reliable answers about the 
OpenGL package to this list.

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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread zzapper
?
>
>While somethings are distinctly different between bash and zsh, and lot
>of bash scripts will run under zsh.  But, why not use both?  I am an
>advocate for zsh, being the Cygwin maintainer and all, but I've always
>felt that you should use the right tool for the right job.  Choice of
>shell is rather a personal thing.  Choose the shell which is right for
>you and your usage.
>
>Regarding the learning curve.  You can take most of your bash (or csh or
>ksh) knowledge and apply it to zsh.  As I said, there are differences and
>really the man/info pages are the best place to discover that.  The
>Cygwin package comes with some sample source/profile files
>(/usr/share/doc/zsh-4.1.1/StartupFiles/) which you can start with.  And,
>I am happy to answer any questions you may have concering zsh.

Thanx, and of I forgot that in any case with the bang header line I
can really specify any shell, I like. ie I can run my bash scripts.

What really affected me was invoking zsh and then not having my
environment aliases etc.

I've come across zsh before, it seems to more logical & less arcane
than other shells.

A previous poster, indicated that this group is probably not the best
place for such discussions, which is of course correct, but that said
there must be a lot of Unix Newbies here. (I'm a Unix oldbie, but that
means I know old Unix, rather than all this new stuff)

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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:39:18PM +, zzapper wrote:
>A previous poster, indicated that this group is probably not the best
>place for such discussions, which is of course correct, but that said
>there must be a lot of Unix Newbies here. (I'm a Unix oldbie, but that
>means I know old Unix, rather than all this new stuff)

There is a lot of food in a supermarket, too, but a supermarket isn't
the best place to hold a dinner party.

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Re: Installer question

2003-11-14 Thread Andre Bleau

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Anon Mouse wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>   Couple of comments on the installer:
>>
>>   - Does it have to be non-resizable?  It's REALLY a pain to keep
>> scrolling left-right-left-right in a 3-inch window
>
>Yes, it does.  The version of the installer currently distributed off the
>main Cygwin web site (v2.416) is non-resizeable and will forever stay that
>way[*].  There are a bunch of long discussions on both the main Cygwin
>list and the cygwin-apps list as to why it has to be so.
I thought we agreed that we'd change it to be resizable to a 3.1 inch window
if there was a lot of interest in that.  Then when everyone got used to that,
we'd make a 3.2 inch window available.  We'd time these carefully at six month
intervals so as not to alarm anyone.
Then by 2010 we'd have something like a 4.4 inch window available.

"A 4.4 inch window should be enough for anyone."

And you can quote me on that.

cgf
Anon,

You could outsmart cgf by buying a larger monitor. What appears as a 3-inch 
window on a 15-inch monitor would be 4.5-inch on a 22-inch screen. By 2010, 
45-inch monitors will be common place, and setup's chooser will thus be 
(wow!) 9 inches wide; that's double what cgf is promising you!

;->



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Include Problem

2003-11-14 Thread Martin Bündgens
Hallo,

i started using cygwin today and i got a small problem with some C progs.
How does Cygwin compensate file includes like linux/ip.h or linux/tcp.h.
Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Martin Bündgens.




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Re: Installer question

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:16:17PM -0500, Andre Bleau wrote:
>You could outsmart cgf by buying a larger monitor. What appears as a 3-inch 
>window on a 15-inch monitor would be 4.5-inch on a 22-inch screen. By 2010, 
>45-inch monitors will be common place, and setup's chooser will thus be 
>(wow!) 9 inches wide; that's double what cgf is promising you!

I hate to be outsmarted.

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Re: Whiny CYGWIN user needs help

2003-11-14 Thread Graucsh
Geoffrey Ruscoe wrote:
Another for the acronyms page?

CYGWIN: Caught You Giving Whiny Info? Not!

Can You Grok When I'm Nice?



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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:39:18PM +, zzapper wrote:
> >A previous poster, indicated that this group is probably not the best
> >place for such discussions, which is of course correct, but that said
> >there must be a lot of Unix Newbies here. (I'm a Unix oldbie, but that
> >means I know old Unix, rather than all this new stuff)
>
> There is a lot of food in a supermarket, too, but a supermarket isn't
> the best place to hold a dinner party.

I feel I must interject here.  That analogy is quite inaccurate (and,
besides I've suddenly become hungry).  zzapper's original question is
more akin to stopping someone on the street to ask directions.  It's not
like he was asking for an indept analysis of steak...err, I mean "Zsh",
merely a question on will bash potatoes, err, "scripts" will work with it
or not.  A quick question deserts, err, "deserves" a quick answer
(*burp*).  And, he's right.  Lots of Newbies "check in" to this list with
cooking, err, "casual" questions.

> cgf

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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:27:57PM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:39:18PM +, zzapper wrote:
>> >A previous poster, indicated that this group is probably not the best
>> >place for such discussions, which is of course correct, but that said
>> >there must be a lot of Unix Newbies here. (I'm a Unix oldbie, but that
>> >means I know old Unix, rather than all this new stuff)
>>
>> There is a lot of food in a supermarket, too, but a supermarket isn't
>> the best place to hold a dinner party.
>
>I feel I must interject here.  That analogy is quite inaccurate (and,
>besides I've suddenly become hungry).  zzapper's original question is
>more akin to stopping someone on the street to ask directions.  It's not
>like he was asking for an indept analysis of steak...err, I mean "Zsh",
>merely a question on will bash potatoes, err, "scripts" will work with it
>or not.  A quick question deserts, err, "deserves" a quick answer
>(*burp*).  And, he's right.  Lots of Newbies "check in" to this list with
>cooking, err, "casual" questions.

Let's use another analogy.  I shop at a supermarket.  I want to know how
to cook pasta.  I see someone else shopping at the supermarket.  I tap
them on the shoulder and ask *that one person* for cooking tips.  That's
your analogy.

That doesn't work in a mailing list.  A closer (if still imperfect)
analogy for a mailing list is: I shop in a supermarket.  Since the
supermarket sells food and I hear voices coming over the loudspeaker all
of the time, I think it must be ok to use their loud speaker to ask
anyone in the supermarket to give me advice on how to cook pasta.
Several people start shouting advice.  Several of them are shouting "I
hate pasta!" Some are telling the shopper to cook the pasta with a flame
thrower.

Someone else hears the loudspeaker and assumes that they now have a forum
to ask about the softest toilet tissue.

A queue forms.

The mean store manager who wants his supermarket to be used for shopping
and not for the broadcasting of random questions concerning every item
sold at the supermarket, turns off the loudspeaker.

The reason I pointed to the zsh site is because *obviously* this is the
type of question with which zsh experts are quite familiar.  You are
*obviously* going to get better advice on a zsh mailing list than a
cygwin mailing list.  If this wasn't a high traffic mailing list, I
wouldn't mind so much.  But it is.

cgf

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Re: Include Problem

2003-11-14 Thread Brian Ford
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Martin Bündgens wrote:

> i started using cygwin today and i got a small problem with some C progs.
> How does Cygwin compensate file includes like linux/ip.h or linux/tcp.h.
> Thanks for your help.
>
It doesn't.  Cygwin != Linux.

Also, AFAIK, if a Linux application is directly including linux/*, it is
broken.

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Re: Tiff error : unknown field with tag 317

2003-11-14 Thread Charles Wilson
zze-BDE balg011 VAUCHER Laurent DvSI/SIReS/GRE wrote:

TIFFReadDirectory: Warning, /usr/X11R6/GNUstep/Apps/WPrefs.app/
tiff/expert.tiff: unknown field with tag 317 (0x13d) encountered.
  According to the Tiff specs, tag 317 is for Predictor, and that
seems to be used mainly by LZW compression. Might it be a 
problem in the GIF library ?
TIFF can be compiled with, or without, LZW support.  Even though the US 
Patent on LZW compression expired on Sept 20 2003, the patent is still 
valid in several other countries.  Therefore, the cygwin version of TIFF 
as distributed does not support LZW, in order to avoid patent violations 
in those countries.

However, the TIFF -src package provides the patch and instructions for 
how to compile the code WITH LZW support, for your own personal use if 
you live in a country where the patent has expired or is not valid, or 
if you have purchased a license from Unisys Corp.

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Re: Installer question

2003-11-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Andre Bleau wrote:

> >On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Anon Mouse wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >>   Couple of comments on the installer:
> > >>
> > >>   - Does it have to be non-resizable?  It's REALLY a pain to keep
> > >> scrolling left-right-left-right in a 3-inch window
> > >
> > >Yes, it does.  The version of the installer currently distributed off the
> > >main Cygwin web site (v2.416) is non-resizeable and will forever stay that
> > >way[*].  There are a bunch of long discussions on both the main Cygwin
> > >list and the cygwin-apps list as to why it has to be so.
> >
> >I thought we agreed that we'd change it to be resizable to a 3.1 inch window
> >if there was a lot of interest in that.  Then when everyone got used to that,
> >we'd make a 3.2 inch window available.  We'd time these carefully at six month
> >intervals so as not to alarm anyone.
> >
> >Then by 2010 we'd have something like a 4.4 inch window available.
> >
> >"A 4.4 inch window should be enough for anyone."
> >
> >And you can quote me on that.
> >
> >cgf
>
> Anon,
>
> You could outsmart cgf by buying a larger monitor. What appears as a 3-inch
> window on a 15-inch monitor would be 4.5-inch on a 22-inch screen. By 2010,
> 45-inch monitors will be common place, and setup's chooser will thus be
> (wow!) 9 inches wide; that's double what cgf is promising you!
>
> ;->
>
> André Bleau, Cygwin's OpenGL package maintainer.
>
> Please address all questions and problem reports about Cygwin's OpenGL
> package to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Such technology is already available today with various magnifier tools.
Check the "Accessibility" features of your friendly Windows operating
system. ;-)  In fact, I just realized that with these tools, even today's
setup window is fully resizeable...  What do you know...
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Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:27:57PM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote:
> >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:39:18PM +, zzapper wrote:
> >> >A previous poster, indicated that this group is probably not the best
> >> >place for such discussions, which is of course correct, but that said
> >> >there must be a lot of Unix Newbies here. (I'm a Unix oldbie, but that
> >> >means I know old Unix, rather than all this new stuff)
> >>
> >> There is a lot of food in a supermarket, too, but a supermarket isn't
> >> the best place to hold a dinner party.

I'm probably gonna regret sending this.  It's a bit of a rant, and
doesn't contain any technical info, so unless you like rants, you can
safely hit delete now.  It's not an attack.  More like a general
expression of my consernation at the apparent state of things.

If you're still here, please read this in a somewhat light-hearted manner
(or read it in a BWAM manner if you so choose):

I was going to simply let this thread die, until you started this bit
about supermarkets, which conveys, to me, that in general people aren't
welcome to ask non-topic questions on this list.  It's an email list, for
crying out loud, not a library or some Microsoft Tech-Support line.
Besides, zzapper had already indicated his understanding that further
discussions would be taken to a different forum.  My reply was relevent
in that it gave some, hopefully, useful info with reference to where to
look further and which might be good for the email archives in case
someone else had such a question and the forsight to check the archives
first.  (sorry for the run-on sentence).  Your after-the-fact reply
was...well...just mean (kinda like kicking someone as they exit the
room).

> >I feel I must interject here.  That analogy is quite inaccurate (and,
> >besides I've suddenly become hungry).  zzapper's original question is
> >more akin to stopping someone on the street to ask directions.  It's not
> >like he was asking for an indept analysis of steak...err, I mean "Zsh",
> >merely a question on will bash potatoes, err, "scripts" will work with it
> >or not.  A quick question deserts, err, "deserves" a quick answer
> >(*burp*).  And, he's right.  Lots of Newbies "check in" to this list with
> >cooking, err, "casual" questions.
>
> Let's use another analogy.  I shop at a supermarket.  I want to know how
> to cook pasta.  I see someone else shopping at the supermarket.  I tap
> them on the shoulder and ask *that one person* for cooking tips.  That's
> your analogy.

Did someone p1ss in your Wheaties this morning or are your just trying to
take the whole BWAM thing to the next level?  It appears my not-so-subtle
attempts at (bad) humor were completely ignored, too (oh well).

And, no, I specifically choose a street for a reason.  A street has lots
of noise, lots of large & small objects moving all around, both with
wheels and without, and, if you were in, say, New York during the morning
dash, sidewalks full of people, all talking on their cellphones at the
same time.  That was the analogy I was thinking of.  Quite the opposite
of a nice and quite supermarket.

But, that's completely beside the point I was trying to get across (and,
obviously, I failed to do so).  No, the point was more about being
curtious and helpful where ever possible.  It shows you actaully care
about other peoples problems.  Even in New York, you can politely stop
someone and 9 times out of 10 they will curtiously try to help answer
your question.

You're earlier response, pointing zzapper to the zsh website, was
helpful, but had more of a flavor of "go over there and don't bother us".
Short and not-so-sweet.  I, however, felt this was a "will it or won't
it" type question, something that most technical websites (including
www.zsh.org) are absolutely horrible at answering.  Since I use zsh as
well as a host of other shells on a daily basis, I felt I was somewhat
qualified to give him a slightly less obtuse answer to his mostly simple
question in a more timely manner, and that others might benefit from it
in the future.  You know how much time it takes to research something
from a website or list archive.  If you already know the answer why not
help out and give it?

> That doesn't work in a mailing list.  A closer (if still imperfect)
> analogy for a mailing list is: I shop in a supermarket.  Since the
> supermarket sells food and I hear voices coming over the loudspeaker all
> of the time, I think it must be ok to use their loud speaker to ask
> anyone in the supermarket to give me advice on how to cook pasta.
> Several people start shouting advice.  Several of them are shouting "I
> hate pasta!" Some are telling the shopper to cook the pasta with a flame
> thrower.
>
> Someone else hears the loudspeaker and assumes that they now have a forum
> to ask about the softest toilet tissue.
>
> A queue forms.
>
> The mean store manager w

Re: Learning zsh

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:18:41PM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote:
>I was going to simply let this thread die, until you started this bit
>about supermarkets, which conveys, to me, that in general people aren't
>welcome to ask non-topic questions

See: http://cygwin.com/lists.html

>on this list.

Lets recap:
1) X posts a message about a non-cygwin topic

2) I respond with a pointer to where more information can be had.

3) You respond with advice.

4) X responds to you, and tangentially seems to imply (referring to me)
that since there are a lot of newbies here, it should be ok to ask any
sort of question.

5) I respond with an analogy that boils down to "Just because you
bought the food here, it doesn't mean that it is the best place to
eat it."

6) You call the analogy inaccurate.

7) I respond to you, extending my analogy (it's interesting how
analogies always get people hot and bothered) to try to show why
it is important to keep a busy mailing list on topic.

8) And now here we are with you assuming that I am mean because I had
the temerity to 1) point someone to the place where they can get the
most help, 2) tell someone that this was not the best place to get
non-cygwin questions answered, and 3) try to show (very clumsily) why
keeping things on-topic in a busy mailing list is important.

I think that you have missed the point, or at least my intent, but this
has really gone on too long.  That's it for me.

cgf

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Re: cygwin 1.5.3: "/bin/mv dir dir" results in recursive-loop copy

2003-11-14 Thread Jim Meyering
Tony Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in cygwin 1.5.3, I got the following error after a moment:
> mv: cannot create directory `src/src/src/src/src/src/src [...] /src':
> Invalid argument

mv (from any recent coreutils package)
works fine in that case on unix systems.

> I think it is the MAX_PATH=256 limitation that finally brings this to a
> halt.  Each of the subdirectories contains all the source files and a src
> directory.
>
> Running "mv --version shows:
> mv (fileutils) 4.1
> ...

fileutils-4.1 is quite old.
I suggest you use something newer

STABLE
  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.tar.gz
  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.tar.bz2
  (coreutils is the union of fileutils, textutils, and sh-utils)

BETA
  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.91.tar.gz
  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.91.tar.bz2

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