FYI: Please revise your strategy for LibreOffice

2021-04-18 Thread Max
For your information:

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On Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:48 AM, Max  wrote:

> Dear Document Foundation Directors
>
> I am not used to providing scathing criticisms, but with LibreOffice those 
> are in order, with a good cause in mind:
> 1. The only reason why I am using LibreOffice Writer is because it is to me a 
> lesser evil than MS Word in terms of costs - this comes at my expense of 
> LibreOffice Writer being a greater evil than MS Word in terms of bugs and 
> crashes. I believe I shouldn't pay for avoiding a Microsoft licensing fee by 
> damnation to a hell with a buggy-crashy LibreOffice.
> 2. If it did not state "Donation" on the LibreOffice download page, in all 
> seriousness I would have literally asked the Document Foundation for a refund 
> a long time ago.
> 3. Because of LibreOffice's bugs and instability, I seriously do not 
> recommend it to any employer I may work for or any colleague I may work with.
> 4. I do not see myself making further donations to the Document Foundation, 
> because I don't want my donations spent on supporting Windows and macOS 
> versions of your apps. Why would I donate an amount for LibreOffice on 
> Windows when I can just buy a MS Office license on Windows?
> 5. Free open source is not worth it for me if it doesn't reliably work when I 
> need it to work because I have to do my work on it.
>
> Document Foundation, please fix this on a strategic level.
> Here are my proposals to you, as explained further below:
> I. Discontinue support for Windows and macOS operating systems.
> II. Seek a merger of LibreOffice with KDE's Calligra Office into 'CALIBRE 
> OFFICE'.
> III. Harness community power by focusing UX on efficient bug reporting.
> IV. Harness the world wide student power at institutional (university) level.
>
> I. DISCONTINUE SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS AND MACOS OPERATING SYSTEMS!
>
> While I am grateful for all the cross-platform apps out there, developing an 
> entire cross-platform office suite may be too ambitious and off limits even 
> for some profit-seeking corporations that may gather sufficient resources to 
> do so - please review this intention.
>
> But what is more important is that there has to be a mutually beneficial 
> relationship between LibreOffice and all Linux distributions, and despite my 
> lack of participation I clearly do not consider the current arrangement as 
> such, because the Document Foundation is still committed to stretching 
> LibreOffice thin on Windows and macOS. Offering LibreOffice on Windows and 
> macOS can never be lean and comes at the expense of reliability.
> This stretching LibreOffice thin on Linux, Windows, and macOS is hurting both 
> LibreOffice and Linux distributions, because the Linux distributions are 
> permanently stuck with a substandard office suite (LibreOffice) that does not 
> meet enterprise-level expectations (I don't care what you may say, it does 
> not from my personal experience with it), while Windows and macOS enjoy the 
> MS Office that in turn ensures that on Windows and macOS such substandard 
> office suite as LibreOffice will never replace MS Office - these two trends 
> combine to ensure that as many users will remain stuck with BOTH MS Windows 
> AND MS Office. If I can't have a reliable office suite on Linux, then I'm 
> stuck with MS Windows, but since I'm stuck with MS Windows, then I use the 
> reliable office suite on Windows that is MS Office. It's a Catch-22 situation 
> that is perpetuated to a large extent by your insistence on cross platform 
> implementation of LibreOffice. It's time that the Document Foundation finally 
> realize that LibreOffice can only succeed on Linux alone, and stretching 
> LibreOffice thin on Windows and macOS defeats both LibreOffice and Linux 
> distributions.
> So my recommendation, in order to break out of this Catch-22, for the 
> Document Foundation to drop Windows and macOS and publish a manifesto (to 
> which it will hold itself publicly accountable) to provide Linux 
> distributions with an office suite that consists of free open source software 
> and yet such that meets enterprise-grade reliability expectations similarly 
> to how MS Office does. That means that the Document Foundation has to gain 
> the courage to DISCONTINUE support for Windows and macOS. In other words, the 
> Document Foundation should give up its unsustainable ambition of LibreOffice 
> as a cross-platform office suite and instead become much more ambitious in 
> the area of giving LibreOffice enterprise-grade reliability for all Linux 
> users that in turn will boost user adoption for all Linux distributions. 
> LibreOffice is a productivity suite, and ther

FYI: Re: Please revise your strategy for LibreOffice

2021-04-30 Thread Max
FYI The rest of my side of my email conversation with 
i...@documentfoundation.org:

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On Friday, April 30, 2021 3:10 PM, Max  wrote:

> Once again, I appreciate your openness with publicly sharing access to this 
> mailing list, but I have to stop sending you such ranting emails to get a 
> life and avoid getting on your nerves. Just two last rant points to add to my 
> previous emails:
>
> 1.  Please consider reaching out to AbiWord's developer community as a whole 
> with an invitation to join your LibreWriter developers: 
> https://www.abisource.com/developers/ (Incidentally, AbiWord is no longer 
> supported on Windows.)
> 2.  You'd better think twice before committing to supporting the next major 
> iterations of Windows like Windows 10X 
> (https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10x) and instead focus on supporting 
> SUSE and Red Hat in providing an enterprise-grade office productivity suite 
> for Linux that they can successfully market as part of their OS to their 
> enterprise customers like the IBM and various larger multinational 
> corporations in various industrial sectors. And if LibreOffice becomes 
> successfully adopted by SUSE's and Red Hat's enterprise customers at the 
> level of the corporate/internal software list for use by all employees, then 
> SUSE and Red Hat will have even more serious, vested interests in supporting 
> further LibreOffice development.
>
> Please note that all the opinions I have expressed in all of my emails 
> are strictly my own.
>
> Thank you for your attention and Goodbye
> Max
>
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> On Monday, April 26, 2021 11:41 AM, Max mleo...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>
>
> > PS
> > In a nutshell - if you limit LibreOffice to Linux, here is what you will be 
> > able to do:
> >
> > 1.  Set up an e-shop (using an open-source e-shop solution) on your website 
> > to sell computer hardware that has various Linux distros with LibreOffice 
> > included in them - ranging from Raspberry Pi models to laptops with a 
> > preinstalled Linux operating system. So your individual customers can also 
> > buy favorably-priced LibreOffice ready hardware to go out of the box. Such 
> > e-shop can fund your operations, while you can ensure that your finances 
> > are handled with maximum transparency for your community.
> >
> > 2.  Actively promote to your potential users on your website all Linux 
> > distros that contain LibreOffice in them, with emphasis on community 
> > (non-corporate) distros like Debian and Linux Mint, so that your potential 
> > users will consider getting a community Linux distro as a means of easily 
> > getting LibreOffice.
> >
> > 3.  Focus on cooperating with commercial enterprise-market Linux - SUSE and 
> > Red Hat - to get their business customers adopt LibreOffice at enterprise 
> > level as part of SUSE's and Red Hat's business, and also let SUSE and Red 
> > Hat and their business customers make financial donations to your 
> > operations, but please at manifesto level resist all of their attempts to 
> > get on your board.
> > Thank you for your time reading this and considering these ideas
> > Max
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> > On Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:02 PM, Max mleo...@protonmail.ch wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Hi Michael
> > > Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my email.
> > > I value your time and dedication to this community and the project.
> > > I.
> > > I am aware of a number of incredible, cross-platform, free open-source 
> > > applications. But I cannot put LibreOffice in that list, because (as I 
> > > believe) almost (if not all) community-sourced open-source applications 
> > > are intended for individual end users. There are also some other free 
> > > open-source applications that have some corporation build an 
> > > enterprise-grade application on top of for business customers. And 
> > > LibreOffice does not fit either of the two just mentioned categories. 
> > > This is the most important self-definition exercise that the Document 
> > > Foundation has to perform - is LibreOffice a suite for individual users 
> > > or is it an enterprise-grade productivity suite for business customers 
> > > (with the bulletproof expectation that all individual users will use it 
> > > both to perform their work for business customers and to use it at home 
> > > or for private business and whatever personal individual use they wish). 
> > > LibreOffice CANNOT b