Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Eduardo Bustamante
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:46 AM Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:
>
> it betteted up, it still segfaults without valgrind but valgrind dorsnt
> show so many entries anymore
> there are 3 valgrind outputs, one without -- two with ine --arg ( the
> valgrind supported .. ) and three the two --opts
>
> the first two i can paste, the third due to being long is attached

The Valgrind reports that you shared do not exhibit the segmentation
fault crash, so they aren't too helpful in diagnosing the crash.



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
look, i do ./bash it segfaults, also when make valgrind, then i do valgrind
./bash it shows what i pasted
the segfault didnt happen a month or two ago

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 22:55 Eduardo Bustamante  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:46 AM Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev 
> wrote:
> >
> > it betteted up, it still segfaults without valgrind but valgrind dorsnt
> > show so many entries anymore
> > there are 3 valgrind outputs, one without -- two with ine --arg ( the
> > valgrind supported .. ) and three the two --opts
> >
> > the first two i can paste, the third due to being long is attached
>
> The Valgrind reports that you shared do not exhibit the segmentation
> fault crash, so they aren't too helpful in diagnosing the crash.
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
you got other cmd suggestions i can run to help debugging ? im very limited
in bin.c debugging

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 22:57 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:

> look, i do ./bash it segfaults, also when make valgrind, then i do
> valgrind ./bash it shows what i pasted
> the segfault didnt happen a month or two ago
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 22:55 Eduardo Bustamante  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:46 AM Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > it betteted up, it still segfaults without valgrind but valgrind dorsnt
>> > show so many entries anymore
>> > there are 3 valgrind outputs, one without -- two with ine --arg ( the
>> > valgrind supported .. ) and three the two --opts
>> >
>> > the first two i can paste, the third due to being long is attached
>>
>> The Valgrind reports that you shared do not exhibit the segmentation
>> fault crash, so they aren't too helpful in diagnosing the crash.
>>
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> you got other cmd suggestions i can run to help debugging ? im very limited
> in bin.c debugging

You could bisect the devel branch to determine whether your problem
was caused by a change to bash and, if so, which commit is responsible.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Debugging-with-Git#_binary_search
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect

-- 
vq



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
ill try to see if those texts on the page make sense to me, some later, im
no fit im sorry

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:34 Lawrence Velázquez  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > you got other cmd suggestions i can run to help debugging ? im very
> limited
> > in bin.c debugging
>
> You could bisect the devel branch to determine whether your problem
> was caused by a change to bash and, if so, which commit is responsible.
>
> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Debugging-with-Git#_binary_search
> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect
>
> --
> vq
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
specific bisect cmds / instructions here welcome

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:58 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:

> ill try to see if those texts on the page make sense to me, some later, im
> no fit im sorry
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:34 Lawrence Velázquez  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
>> > you got other cmd suggestions i can run to help debugging ? im very
>> limited
>> > in bin.c debugging
>>
>> You could bisect the devel branch to determine whether your problem
>> was caused by a change to bash and, if so, which commit is responsible.
>>
>> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Debugging-with-Git#_binary_search
>> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect
>>
>> --
>> vq
>>
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
to tell u honestly, im in no state to read freely happily new docs
if u dont specificly help with the cmds, i cannot succeed much

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:59 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:

> specific bisect cmds / instructions here welcome
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:58 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev 
> wrote:
>
>> ill try to see if those texts on the page make sense to me, some later,
>> im no fit im sorry
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 23:34 Lawrence Velázquez  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
>>> > you got other cmd suggestions i can run to help debugging ? im very
>>> limited
>>> > in bin.c debugging
>>>
>>> You could bisect the devel branch to determine whether your problem
>>> was caused by a change to bash and, if so, which commit is responsible.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Debugging-with-Git#_binary_search
>>> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect
>>>
>>> --
>>> vq
>>>
>>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Chet Ramey

On 10/19/21 7:47 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:

any reply to this ?


There's nothing helpful there, and nothing that might point to any problem,
much less a solution.

--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Chet Ramey

On 10/20/21 4:57 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
look, i do ./bash it segfaults, also when make valgrind, then i do valgrind 
./bash it shows what i pasted

the segfault didnt happen a month or two ago


The way you present this makes it impossible for anyone but you to debug it.

--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
i see

no good

..

again such a stuckcase

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:21 Chet Ramey  wrote:

> On 10/19/21 7:47 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > any reply to this ?
>
> There's nothing helpful there, and nothing that might point to any problem,
> much less a solution.
>
> --
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Chet Ramey

On 10/20/21 8:24 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:

erm sorry what


The issue, if any, is obviously triggered by something in your environment.
You can run bash --noprofile --norc to verify that.

No one else has access to everything in your environment. I could not
reproduce the crash with the parts of your startup scripts you posted.

You are the only one who can reproduce this crash. There is little anyone
can do to help you at this point without you taking the lead to isolate
the crash to either a specific piece of shell code or a specific change
in bash.

--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
i see
makes sense

i was hoping for finished cmds to test / save debugging info , rather than
for example this git docs

i can say it for anyone, ..imho 99 % to all docs are.. not for me
like 

how to check bash devel version and version history
to mark as good / bad
.. is one small question about that all

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:24 Chet Ramey  wrote:

> On 10/20/21 8:22 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > i see
> >
> > no good
> >
> > ..
> >
> > again such a stuckcase
>
> If you're the only one who can reproduce it, you're going to have to take
> the lead in debugging it.
>
> --
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
erm sorry what


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:22 Chet Ramey  wrote:

> On 10/20/21 4:57 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > look, i do ./bash it segfaults, also when make valgrind, then i do
> valgrind
> > ./bash it shows what i pasted
> > the segfault didnt happen a month or two ago
>
> The way you present this makes it impossible for anyone but you to debug
> it.
>
> --
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Chet Ramey

On 10/20/21 8:22 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:

i see

no good

..

again such a stuckcase


If you're the only one who can reproduce it, you're going to have to take
the lead in debugging it.

--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
erm im not sure.. it is my rc that bashlinker script
i wrote in mails topic 'segfaults on >my< code'
in specific on alike arr=( "$path"$glob )

i cannot test much else, i code this only, other bash scripts of others i
dunno and till they can code dont wanna know
so i can only code on my stuff

it used to work
new bash compilations broke it
as u may have noticed i posted a few weirdnesses and fails already
with.. no results to me

i can post the tgz of my code here, u can . script it and maybe just maybe
it will segf for u too
but probably not
tho a test its worth

else what can i do, tell me
status: new bash devel x times new, new sw maybe a bit beta, but official
then my pro code, i code pro since 20 years
ans it segfaults, where it uses to run, .. not much changes there were

ao i got new sw and segf, .. ..

can u at least test the tgz ?

if that works for you
what can i do
besides i cant debug it cause i lack.c

downgrade ?
maybe
no good solution

the git bad good thing might show something

..

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:27 Chet Ramey  wrote:

> On 10/20/21 8:24 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > erm sorry what
>
> The issue, if any, is obviously triggered by something in your environment.
> You can run bash --noprofile --norc to verify that.
>
> No one else has access to everything in your environment. I could not
> reproduce the crash with the parts of your startup scripts you posted.
>
> You are the only one who can reproduce this crash. There is little anyone
> can do to help you at this point without you taking the lead to isolate
> the crash to either a specific piece of shell code or a specific change
> in bash.
>
> --
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
as for presentation, and me making it impossible to view ( greycat and
others on irc spitted on me 'u code bad obfuscating only' where i dont at
all

as for presentation as said i tried as always make it in one text objective
of few subjects

..

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:34 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:

> erm im not sure.. it is my rc that bashlinker script
> i wrote in mails topic 'segfaults on >my< code'
> in specific on alike arr=( "$path"$glob )
>
> i cannot test much else, i code this only, other bash scripts of others i
> dunno and till they can code dont wanna know
> so i can only code on my stuff
>
> it used to work
> new bash compilations broke it
> as u may have noticed i posted a few weirdnesses and fails already
> with.. no results to me
>
> i can post the tgz of my code here, u can . script it and maybe just maybe
> it will segf for u too
> but probably not
> tho a test its worth
>
> else what can i do, tell me
> status: new bash devel x times new, new sw maybe a bit beta, but official
> then my pro code, i code pro since 20 years
> ans it segfaults, where it uses to run, .. not much changes there were
>
> ao i got new sw and segf, .. ..
>
> can u at least test the tgz ?
>
> if that works for you
> what can i do
> besides i cant debug it cause i lack.c
>
> downgrade ?
> maybe
> no good solution
>
> the git bad good thing might show something
>
> ..
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:27 Chet Ramey  wrote:
>
>> On 10/20/21 8:24 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
>> > erm sorry what
>>
>> The issue, if any, is obviously triggered by something in your
>> environment.
>> You can run bash --noprofile --norc to verify that.
>>
>> No one else has access to everything in your environment. I could not
>> reproduce the crash with the parts of your startup scripts you posted.
>>
>> You are the only one who can reproduce this crash. There is little anyone
>> can do to help you at this point without you taking the lead to isolate
>> the crash to either a specific piece of shell code or a specific change
>> in bash.
>>
>> --
>> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
>> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>>
>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
fix the alias bug to a release as u said and when that is im willig to skip
all devel for release

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:37 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev  wrote:

> as for presentation, and me making it impossible to view ( greycat and
> others on irc spitted on me 'u code bad obfuscating only' where i dont at
> all
>
> as for presentation as said i tried as always make it in one text
> objective of few subjects
>
> ..
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:34 Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev 
> wrote:
>
>> erm im not sure.. it is my rc that bashlinker script
>> i wrote in mails topic 'segfaults on >my< code'
>> in specific on alike arr=( "$path"$glob )
>>
>> i cannot test much else, i code this only, other bash scripts of others i
>> dunno and till they can code dont wanna know
>> so i can only code on my stuff
>>
>> it used to work
>> new bash compilations broke it
>> as u may have noticed i posted a few weirdnesses and fails already
>> with.. no results to me
>>
>> i can post the tgz of my code here, u can . script it and maybe just
>> maybe it will segf for u too
>> but probably not
>> tho a test its worth
>>
>> else what can i do, tell me
>> status: new bash devel x times new, new sw maybe a bit beta, but official
>> then my pro code, i code pro since 20 years
>> ans it segfaults, where it uses to run, .. not much changes there were
>>
>> ao i got new sw and segf, .. ..
>>
>> can u at least test the tgz ?
>>
>> if that works for you
>> what can i do
>> besides i cant debug it cause i lack.c
>>
>> downgrade ?
>> maybe
>> no good solution
>>
>> the git bad good thing might show something
>>
>> ..
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:27 Chet Ramey  wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/20/21 8:24 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
>>> > erm sorry what
>>>
>>> The issue, if any, is obviously triggered by something in your
>>> environment.
>>> You can run bash --noprofile --norc to verify that.
>>>
>>> No one else has access to everything in your environment. I could not
>>> reproduce the crash with the parts of your startup scripts you posted.
>>>
>>> You are the only one who can reproduce this crash. There is little anyone
>>> can do to help you at this point without you taking the lead to isolate
>>> the crash to either a specific piece of shell code or a specific change
>>> in bash.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>>>  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
>>> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.edu
>>> http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>>>
>>


Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> to tell u honestly, im in no state to read freely happily new docs

I'll be honest as well: If you're not going to put in effort beyond
running commands that are spoon-fed to you, then I'm not going to
put in effort beyond dumping URLs into emails.

Of course, others who don't mind this asymmetry are free to provide
further assistance.

> if u dont specificly help with the cmds, i cannot succeed much

That's unfortunate.

-- 
vq



Re: current bash.git.devel segfaults on my code

2021-10-20 Thread Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
u're as friendly as the psychiatry ppl
fare well

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 02:57 Lawrence Velázquez  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > to tell u honestly, im in no state to read freely happily new docs
>
> I'll be honest as well: If you're not going to put in effort beyond
> running commands that are spoon-fed to you, then I'm not going to
> put in effort beyond dumping URLs into emails.
>
> Of course, others who don't mind this asymmetry are free to provide
> further assistance.
>
> > if u dont specificly help with the cmds, i cannot succeed much
>
> That's unfortunate.
>
> --
> vq
>