Re: Auto-update program cache feature

2018-10-04 Thread Eduardo Bustamante
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:20 PM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
(...)
> How Bash achieves it is an implementation detail left to the experts.
> I made a few suggestions that don't seem to fit well. That's OK
> because Bash internals is not my area of expertise.

I think it's important to always consider the cost (in terms of
implementation complexity and maintenance) of a feature we request
from a free software program :)

> Architecturally each instance of Bash is an object could receive a
> "clear cache" message. How it is achieved does not matter to me. What
> is important is, the right thing is done to relieve users from the
> extra work for the common case.

This paragraph contradicts what you said earlier. You keep suggesting
that Bash should adopt this global message passing system where every
instance of the shell can broadcast messages to each other... that is
EXTREMELY complicated.

Anyways, I should've read the manual before replying to this email
thread. There's already a mechanism in place for what you want, it's
the `checkhash' shopt.



Re: Auto-update program cache feature

2018-10-04 Thread Chet Ramey
On 10/3/18 4:45 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I noticed a fair number of new Linux users have trouble with stale
> program caches. Users install a package from a package manager or
> sources and then are confused when the new package is not used. They
> do not realize they need to run 'bash -r'; and most don't know where
> to begin searching.

OK, let's consider this. There are three cases:

1. A new program gets installed with the same name as an existing one,
   in the same directory.

2. A new program gets installed with the same name, but in a different
   directory in $PATH (and before the existing one).

3. A new program gets installed with a new name.

(I'm putting aside the program deletion case.)

You're saying that the seond scenario is most common, and common enough
that we should develop a complex solution for it? I'd have to see more
data before I'd accept that.

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