Re: I wish hash -r (or something like it) would happen automaticly

2006-01-07 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Britton Leo Kerin on 1/6/2006 12:10 PM:
> I sometimes forget to run hash -r after sticking something new in my
> path, and get confused.  One thing I've always been hazy on is whether
> there is a way in unix to connect to a 'dir-contents-changed' signal
> or the like, but if so I would much prefer my interactive shells at
> least to automaticly notice new binaries as they show up in $PATH.
> Its especially confusing because the 'which' command, which is the
> first one people learn to find out which binaries they are running.

You could always turn hashing off:
set +h

There is also a feature for re-searching the path when a program
disappears from its hashed location, but that is not quite the same as
your question of adding a program earlier in the PATH than what was hashed:
shopt -s checkhash

As for a "'dir-contents-changed' signal", the ctime (found from calling
stat()) of every directory in the PATH is the POSIX way of detecting
whether a directory has been modified, but bash does not currently cache
or check the ctime of the directories that appear in PATH prior to the
hashed location of a command.  Maybe someone would like to submit a patch
that does that?  If so, it would probably belong to another shopt setting,
since the point of hashing is to avoid extra stat calls.

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Re: Conditional expression problem: both "-a file" and "! -a file" return true

2006-01-07 Thread Eric Blake
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According to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/6/2006 3:02 PM:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ touch testFile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [ -a testFile ]  && echo true || echo false
> true

POSIX requires
(http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/test.html) that a
test with two arguments (in your case, "-a" and "testFile") produce
unspecified results if the first is neither "!" nor a unary primary.  "-a"
is not a required POSIX unary operator.  So bash is in its right to return
whatever it wants; in this case, bash has the extension that "-a" is also
a unary operator, returning 0 if file exists (contrast that with
coreutils' /bin/test, which does not have a unary -a, so it currently
returns 1, although it would also be valid for coreutils to print an error
message that an unknown unary operator was encountered and return 2).

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [ ! -a testFile ]  && echo true || echo false
> true

Now, in this case, you have three arguments, and POSIX requires that the
binary operator "-a" have higher precedence than the "!" negation operator
on a 2-argument test.  And the one-argument test of "!" and of "testFile"
both return true (since neither is the empty string), so the overall
expression returns 0.

You are probably better off using the unary operator -e for file existance
rather than -a.  Also, be aware that bash also defines a unary -o, so the
following also has strange results, for the same reasons as above:
$ set -o monitor
$ rm -f monitor
$ test -o monitor && echo true
true
$ test ! -o monitor && echo true
true

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Re: bash-3.1.1: source does not work in conjunction with process substitution

2006-01-07 Thread Chet Ramey
Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The "source" builtin does not work in conjunction with process
> substitution:

Correct.  The bash source builtin only works with regular files.  This
is a limitation that will someday be lifted.

Chet

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Re: bash-3.1.1: unable to feed "trap -p" output into a pipe

2006-01-07 Thread Chet Ramey
Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A "trap -p" output doesn't feed into a pipe:
> $ trap -p 
>  
> $ trap "echo ..." EXIT
>  
> $ trap -p EXIT
>  
> trap -- 'echo ...' EXIT   
>
> $ trap -p EXIT |wc -l 
>  
> 0 
>

Each element of a pipeline is run in a subshell.  Subshells don't
traps from their parent.

Chet
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