Re: debsuryorg-archive-keyring

2025-02-13 Thread Malcolm Scott via bind-users
On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, at 16:54, Petr Špaček wrote:
>> [1] https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5050
>
> BTW you can expedite fixing it if you test code changes in
> https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/merge_requests/9967
> and provide feedback.

Aha -- I had missed that -- I will test it.  Thanks!

Malcolm
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Re: debsuryorg-archive-keyring

2025-02-13 Thread Malcolm Scott via bind-users

Hi Ondřej,

That's a fair point; I am indeed trusting you anyway by installing your 
packages :-)


I mainly noticed this because I am temporarily building my own patched 
version of your package with a workaround for the SIG(0) key limit problem I 
reported some months back [1], and realised that if I used your sources, I'd 
have to ship debsuryorg-archive-keyring in my own PPA too.


Thanks,

Malcolm

[1] https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5050


On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, Ondřej Surý wrote:


Hi Malcolm,

if you trust me to produce BIND 9 code directly from the upstream,
I guess that trust can be transitioned to the packaging repositories.

The packaging is created in a way that makes it easy to create
packages for both Ubuntu and Debian in the same way.

I'll add some text to the KB, thanks for raising the issue here.

Ondřej
P.S.: However, you are right that for Ubuntu PPAs there could be just
a dummy package with no keys and that would make it little less
confusing. The package is setup like this intentionally for now
and it will get gradually upgraded to the signed-by method as the
distributions supporting that will get deprecated. As of now, the
change you mentioned will be included in Debian Trixie that hasn't
been released yet, and there's too many installations that still use
the old method
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On 13. 2. 2025, at 16:57, Malcolm Scott via bind-users 
 wrote:

Hi all,

With apologies if this is a FAQ: why do the ISC BIND packages for Ubuntu, 
linked from https://kb.isc.org/docs/isc-packages-for-bind-9 and published at 
https://launchpad.net/~isc/+archive/ubuntu/bind, depend on 
debsuryorg-archive-keyring?  That package makes Apt trust a key for an entirely 
different Apt repository, not used (as far as I can tell) by the Launchpad PPA 
at all.  (Also it installs the key into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d, which is 
considered insecure and deprecated [1].)

$ apt-key list
(...)
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debsuryorg-archive.gpg
-
pub   rsa3072 2019-03-18 [SC] [expires: 2026-02-04]
 1505 8500 A023 5D97 F5D1  0063 B188 E2B6 95BD 4743
uid   [ unknown] DEB.SURY.ORG Automatic Signing Key 
sub   rsa3072 2019-03-18 [E] [expires: 2026-02-04]
(...)

(Or should I treat deb.sury.org, rather than the Launchpad PPA, as the official 
repository for these packages?)

Malcolm


[1] https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/raw/2.9.24/debian/NEWS
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debsuryorg-archive-keyring

2025-02-13 Thread Malcolm Scott via bind-users

Hi all,

With apologies if this is a FAQ: why do the ISC BIND packages for Ubuntu, 
linked from https://kb.isc.org/docs/isc-packages-for-bind-9 and published at 
https://launchpad.net/~isc/+archive/ubuntu/bind, depend on 
debsuryorg-archive-keyring?  That package makes Apt trust a key for an 
entirely different Apt repository, not used (as far as I can tell) by the 
Launchpad PPA at all.  (Also it installs the key into 
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d, which is considered insecure and deprecated [1].)


$ apt-key list
(...)
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debsuryorg-archive.gpg
-
pub   rsa3072 2019-03-18 [SC] [expires: 2026-02-04]
  1505 8500 A023 5D97 F5D1  0063 B188 E2B6 95BD 4743
uid   [ unknown] DEB.SURY.ORG Automatic Signing Key 
sub   rsa3072 2019-03-18 [E] [expires: 2026-02-04]
(...)

(Or should I treat deb.sury.org, rather than the Launchpad PPA, as the 
official repository for these packages?)


Malcolm


[1] https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/raw/2.9.24/debian/NEWS
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