Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:28:00 +0100 Bruce Steers wrote: > Hello > I am a gambas basic developer and would like to report some wayland > problems. (major issues) that we hear of on the gambas mailing list all the > time. > > The attitude towards wayland with gambas coders at present is ,, ditch >

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 29 April 2024 05:43:30 GMT-7 Pekka Paalanen wrote: > The system tray case I am not familiar > with, so I cannot say anything about that. That sounds like the issue is not using the StatusNotifierItem[1] specification. The old XEmbed system tray protocol is not expected to work on Wayla

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Bruce Steers
Many thanks for you detailed response Pekka. Kinda wasn't the answer I was hoping for but the explanation helps a lot with our understanding. Seems like a similar situation to when gnome2 became gnome3 and unity and as popular as It was and adopted by many systems so many people didn't like it an

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Bruce Steers
I believe so. It uses dbus org.kde.StatusNotifierItem The source code is here... https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/tree/master/comp/src/gb.dbus.trayicon/.src Note. I am not "the" gambas ide/source developer I am "a" gambas developer (programmer) I have made some small contributions to the gambas

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 29 April 2024 10:17:53 GMT-7 Bruce Steers wrote: > I thought to redesign my software using a system tray as there was no way > to position a window but without system tray working I'm stuck for ideas. The system tray is not conveyed through Wayland in the first place (it goes through D-

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 29 April 2024 10:05:32 GMT-7 Bruce Steers wrote: > I guess/hope a similar thing will happen to x11 or Wayland will accept this > particular issue needs addressing and provide a workaround. > > As fundamentally Wayland principles are to us, restrictive in a way that I > think many will si

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Bruce Steers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 20:32 Thiago Macieira, wrote: > On Monday 29 April 2024 10:17:53 GMT-7 Bruce Steers wrote: > > I thought to redesign my software using a system tray as there was no way > > to position a window but without system tray working I'm stuck for ideas. > > The system tray is not co

Re: Weston mirror/clone to 2 different displays

2024-04-29 Thread Dawn HOWE
Hello, I posted a question last year about mirroring/cloning to LVDS/hdmi on an imx8, which is not supported by the display driver. This thread suggests that a solution for this was being worked last June, but I have not seen follow up on the topic since then. Is there any change in the status

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Bruce Steers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 20:53 Thiago Macieira, wrote: > On Monday 29 April 2024 10:05:32 GMT-7 Bruce Steers wrote: > > I guess/hope a similar thing will happen to x11 or Wayland will accept > this > > particular issue needs addressing and provide a workaround. > > > > As fundamentally Wayland princi

Re: Wayland design principles (Re: wayland and gambas)

2024-04-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 29 April 2024 14:38:10 GMT-7 Bruce Steers wrote: > Some have no issue like my text editor for example, a standard looking > editor with window and title bar. > > Although gambas provides a Settings.Write(window_name) / > Settings.Read(window_name) that saves/restores the window placement

Re: Weston mirror/clone to 2 different displays

2024-04-29 Thread Marius Vlad
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 08:55:31PM +, Dawn HOWE wrote: > Hello, Hi, > > I posted a question last year about mirroring/cloning to LVDS/hdmi on > an imx8, which is not supported by the display driver. This thread > suggests that a solution for this was being worked last June, but I > have not se