otal by
ten, 55, then divide by a 100. In that order. Of course you will still have
problems. For example do it over and over and you will overflow your
integer, but nevermind. Am I rambling? Ooops.
HTH,
tiger12506
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Dear elis:
I just read the large volume of messages that you have sent causing mild
confusion and misunderstanding relating to your OCR project. You have
expressed wishes to learn python quickly, and to take a class. Therefore, I
suggest you look here - any of these are more than enough of
> "Daniel McQuay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
>> I wondering if any one uses Python to do such things as defragment,
>> clean up
>> temp files, check for hard drive errors, check for unusual processes
>> running, and so on.
Watch and be amazed...
import os
os.system('defrag.
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>> * Ben Waldin (Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:46:42 +1200)
>>> How long will it take until I successfully create my own working program
>>> that is useful? I have crated the address book ones in the tutors and
>>> just want to know how long it takes before I start to create my own
> ron wrote:
>> in the US, # is a symbol for weight, not currency.
>
> I didn't know that; I assumed it was only
> used for ordinal numbering (as in Item #3).
>
> # How do you write out, with a quick symbol, "I'm going to
>> buy 3# of potatoes?
This - #3 - means Number 3
This - 3# - means 3 pounds
>> i have a c function from some modbus documentation that i need to
>> translate into python.
>> unsigned short CRC16(puchMsg, usDataLen)
>> unsigned char *puchMsg ;
>> unsigned short usDataLen ;
>> {
>> unsigned char uchCRCHi = 0xFF ;
>> unsigned char uchCRCLo = 0xFF ;
>> unsigned u
It seems to me that what you need is this.
http://www.python.net/crew/mhammond/win32/Downloads.html
I think the key that you are missing here is that python does not include
functions that you ask without downloading something special. Check the
link, download those extensions, and read the docu
> no, no, the values are coming from all over the place, so having to
> remember
> which member of the list that function is tied to may be more of a
> headache
>
> I get the technique though
Would you do us a huge favor in helping you and send us your code, the code
where these values are comi
>>
>> > Do you know of any service or person that could do a code review
>> > for me?
>>
>> Perhaps if you were more specific about what you are looking for in the
>> review? If you merely want something to check your code for possible
>> errors and how well you stick to standards, then look i
If you just draw rectangles, you would have to track the mouse cursor and
check to see if it's within the boundaries of a rectangle manually. I
suggest using buttons. It will be easier to know when the mouse is over
them.
> Hello,
>
>The attached code makes a number of colored rectangles vi
> ===
> class BankAccount(object):
>def __init__(self, initial_balance=0):
>self.balance = initial_balance
>def deposit(self, amount):
>self.balance += amount
>def withdraw(self, amount):
>self.balance -= amount
>def overdr
Interesting... This is something very strange.
I've been able to reproduce the phenomenon that elis described.
Here's how to reproduce the error.
1) Open a new edit window in IDLE
2) type in code - do NOT save
3) Select Run Module from the Run menu
4) Save file when prompted
When the IDLE shell
> Your second way seems to make more sense. And instead of raising the
> error, why not just print it:
There is a very good reason for this and it's important that you understand
it to write good code. If you use a print statement, you break the benefit
of encapsulation.
If you were to use tha
Ooops, didn't see Alan's post before I sent this...
JS
>> Your second way seems to make more sense. And instead of raising the
>> error, why not just print it:
>
> There is a very good reason for this and it's important that you
> understand
> it to write good code. If you use a print statement,
curses does not run on my Windows XP computer.
Is this supposed to be a Linux only module?
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File "C:\Python25\lib\curses\__init__.py", line 15, in
from _curses import *
ImportError: No module named _curses
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> But there's an exception to that - if you right-click a file in Windoze
> and 'edit' it,
> IDLE won't open up its subprocess, and as such, it can't restart the
> interpreter session because it's running in the same
> process as IDLE, and to restart the interpreter would mean restarting
> IDLE.
>
> There IS a way to try Linux, Python, and curses WITHOUT
> installing anything to the hard-drive of your MSWindowsXP
> computer, and that is to download a Linux LiveCD ISO image,
> and make a bootable CD from that image. Your computer
> BIOS should be setup to boot from a CD.
*That* is the proble
Perhaps ~this~ is what you are worried about performance-wise?
Image NameMem Usage
-
python.exe11,096 K
That's not too bad considering ~this~
explorer.exe 14,356 K
svchost.exe24,000 K
And I worry about the mp3 player I wrote in C using 2,520 K
> please think about your first programming class, and then think about how
> long it took the prof to teach the concept of array.
>
> yes, it's about a week, if he is really good.
[gentle rant]
Yes, and I find that most idiots in math classes NEVER gain the concept of
multiplying fractions (longe
If you truly wish to kill yourself trying to make it as efficient memory as
possible, then you can follow this example. (This is more like what I would
write in C).
The getrandomline function picks a random byte between the beginning and the
end of the file, then backs up until the beginning of the
Hmmm. You should read closer ;-)
> It sounds like python_icon.exe is a fake executable that just contains the
> icon for python programs...
> hence the name.
Perhaps. If that's the case though, someone needs to talk to the guys who
design the setup file for python. It is an inefficient waste of
> Luke, Jacob, et. al...
>
> Dumb question (may be slightly off course from what you two were
> discussing), but are you both describing how to get the IDLE to run along
> with the editor? I may just be getting too many things confused. I've
> tried to run IDLE, but that's not working. I have
> wow thats pretty cool :) it's a bit above my level but it's interesting
> :) thanks
I'm deeply flattered! Thank you.
>> #
>> from os import stat
os.stat returns a tuple whose 7th member is the size of the file. (python
docs)
>> from random impor
Yeah. But she's running Windows.
Perhaps vim is scary to some Windows users.
(I thought it was scary and annoying. Are all those ~ characters really in
the file or not?
I kept second guessing the editor.)
--Sara, could you give an example of how it doesn't work?
Just what happens? Just what doe
> I'm trying to parse a file and extract 'src=172.16.148.27 dst=10.52.10.10'
> out of each line that contains 10.52.10.10, but get lost with writing the
> information and am not sure if I should .re at all.
Could you send a few lines of "in.txt"? I can help better.
> import re
>
> infile = open("
> Here you go.
>
> I've been working on something like this, but it's mixing the 2. Thanks
> for
> helping me.
Okay. But you still haven't given me a few lines of your input file. The
"in.txt" that you are using in your code.
> import re
>
> infile = open("in.txt","r")
> outfile = open("out.tx
>I sent a sample of the file "testin.txt" in the last email. Here are the
> lines themsevles:
Oh! Sorry. I didn't look in the attachments - I expected the lines in the
email. My mistake.
Try this ~~ :-P
##
import re
infile = open("testin.txt","r")
outfile = open(
Yuck. Talk about a one shot function! Of course it only reads through the
file once! You only call the function once. Put a second print randline(f)
at the bottom of your script and see what happens :-)
JS
> This method only keeps one line in memory, only reads through the file
> once, and doe
> import os
> import random
>
> text = 'shaks12.txt'
> if not os.path.exists(text):
> os.system('wget http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext94/shaks12.txt')
>
> def randline(f):
>for i,j in enumerate(file(f, 'rb')):
Alright. But put randline in a loop and you open a lot of file handles.
Thank g
> results.write(c.getoutput('svnadmin lslocks ' + eval(row)))
Mmm... I want to add that the eval function tries to execute whatever is in
the argument passed as python expressions.
>>> eval('1+2')
3
>>> row = 4
>>> 1+row
5
>>> eval('1+row')
5
>>>
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You know the height and the width of the image, no?
So you know that every 'width' number of pixels will start a new row.
So if you wanted say the fifth row down, second pixel, how would you find
it?
The 1st line: 'width' number of pixels
The 2nd line: 'width' number of pixels
The 3rd line: 'wi
> if you start counting at the 0th row and 0th column, this will give you
> the 4th row and 2nd column.
> if you're counting from the 1st row and 1st column, this will give you
> the 5th row and 3rd column.
>> That number is the index to use to get the pixel at coords (2,5)
>>
> So this is act
> man that looks totally pythonic.
What you had is correct though. Good job.
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It's nice to see you haven't given up. A few suggestions to make you code a
little more creative.
> import time
>
> import ImageGrab # Part of PIL
> from ctypes import *
>
> # Load up the Win32 APIs we need to use.
> class RECT(Structure):
> _fields_ = [
>('left', c_ulong),
>('top', c_u
> I think the best strategy for this problem would be to build an index of
> the offset of the start of each line, and then randomly select from this
> list.
> that makes each line equally probable, and you can set up your class so
> that the index is only built on the first call to the function.
>
I'm pretty sure that the one in the current directory gets imported first.
However, it is much simpler to just change the name of the module in the
current directory.
JS
> hello there,
>
> if i have a module that is in the same directory as the file that imports
> it,
> but that module has the
If the module has been imported before your code is run, it will be the
library module (very important if working in IDLE which importants many
modules, for example). But if it has not been imported before, the module in
the current directory is imported first. You can check if a module has been
> I don't understand dict
Think of dict as a dictionary. Literally. You have a word, you look up it's
definition in the dictionary. A dictionary is made up of key, value pairs.
So for your example:
a_dict = {2243 : 'e',
2234 : 'p',
2235 : 'lol',
'how
>> If the module has been imported before your code is run, it will be the
>> library module (very important if working in IDLE which importants many
>> modules, for example).
> So... how does IDLE go about importanting a module? ;)
It's not *how* IDLE imports the module, but that fact that IDL
Perhaps everyone is trying too hard. Instead of trying to re-initialize the
thread on error, let the thread create a new seperate thread and destroy
itself naturally.
Maybe a shot in the dark? :-/
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> Please forgive my instrusion with some simple questions. I don't have any
> formal training in programming so I have to get some guidance to some
> terminology from time to time. What is a generator and what is its
> purpose?
Think of a generator as a list whose contents haven't been finished
> I am new to Python but not new to programming languages. I have seen this
> "while 1" a lot. In fact in other languages I would expect "while 1" to
> be
> the same as "while TRUE". I have used that in other languages, but in the
> definition below I would expect the "yield b..." to continue o
> Then I would need to get the file size (but this is giving me an error at
> the moment)
>for name in files:
>s = sum(getsize(join(root, name)
>print s (syntax error here. I have not figured it out yet. There
> are spaces in the path/filename combo)
> (code to parse the file
> Significance of number 4096 :
> file is stored in blocks of size 2K/4K/8K (depending
> upon the machine). file seek for an offset goes block
> by block rather than byte by byte. Hence for file size
> < 4096 (assuming you have 4K block size), you will
> anyway end up scanning it entirely so as wel
>> The line should be
>> s = getsize(join(root, name))
>>
>> which will print the file size for each "name in files"
>
>
> I got it a bit later. It didn't like me trying to apply it in a print
> statement but if I assigned it first and the printed it, no issue.
This should give you no problem ~
pr
def findTestDirectories(path):
os.chdir(path)
directory_listing = os.listdir(os.getcwd())
--
Change this to
directory_listing = os.listdir(path)
Why look up the current directory when you have *just* set what it is?
test_record_directories = []
fo
> I found the problem. It was rather simple actually. I didn't have remote
> logging enabled for syslog. Even though I was logging to localhost, for
> some reason, it wouldn't work until I gave syslogd a -r at startup.
> Thanks
localhost is still remote, in that sockets are used to reach it. Th
> Cheers for the critique I'll take you points on board .especially
> this schoolboy error
It's not an error, really. It will work. Just... not intuitive
Errors are things that do not work.
> One thing to note about the re expression is that the products are not
> these were just substitutes
> bhaaluu wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Beautiful! Thank you SO much for all the variations.
>> I'm so sure I'll have much to learn from them. This
>> is exactly the kind of stuff I'm currently studying.
I assume this is for me. Thank you kindly! :-)
>> I have a question for the list.
>> After I po
> Based on your guidance, I figured it out. I need to use a return
> statement, which I had not encountered before. Now I wrote my
> definitions in this way:
>
> def collided():
>if player_x == robot_x+0.5 and player_y == robot_y+0.5:
> return True
This could be simplified more.
He
Note that OP constructed his list so that some values are weighted according
to the user's decision (Aggressive or defensive), Just let's not forget that
brilliance~ ;-)
Suggestions below.
> Here is a snippet that might work for one batter:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> # cricket.py
> # 2007-07-2
> By the way, this is an important and fundamental subject about
> Python. When I teach classes on Python, I always need to explain
> Python's execution model, and I always struggle with it. So,
> anything you can tell me that would help me teach this will be much
> appreciated.
>
> Dave
The way
> What are typeseq objects. Searching the python site on "typeseq" draws a
> blank.
>
> Dick Moores
I believe that means "sequence" type.
list
tuple
string
are the builtins
I debated with myself about dict, decided that it doesn't fit the
description. That should be all ordered sequence types.
Hmmm... interesting tie to another post...
>>> x = timeit.Timer('random.random()','import random')
>>> x.timeit(300)
1.0161026052194018
>>> y = timeit.Timer('random()','from random import random')
>>> y.timeit(460)
1.0004307810070827
Dictionary lookups do take HUGE amounts of time. Intere
> ...some credit. I taught myself to program, from scratch, without access
> to (or time for) any courses whatsoever... 5 years now...core
> language...certain standard modules pretty well... complaint...won't get
> much further...without a computer science degree.
Wow. I'm so *shocked*.
Most p
>> cPickle/Pickle question is AFAIR documented,
>
> But not in a manner totally clear to a newbie. An experienced
> programmer will figure out that a C implementation is faster but
> what does that meabn when your only reference is a few weeks
> of Python? And why is there two modules if one is bet
> As between Tkinter and wxPython, I started on Tkinter, but have been won
> over to wxPython, although I've only played with it so far. The problem
> with wxPython is that it's poorly documented, but there's a book out on it
> now that you should beg, borrow or steal if you plan on using it.
Tki
> Adam wrote:
>
>>From the library documentation:
> Return True if path refers to an existing path. Returns False for
> broken symbolic links. On some platforms, this function may return
> False if permission is not granted to execute os.stat() on the
> requested file, even if the path physically e
>>
>> /usr/sbin/advxrun2.0 # starts server then
>> open (path) apache.config for input ?
>>
>
> I don't really understand what you want to do. If you want to write a
> script that runs other programs, look at os.system()
> http://docs.python.org/lib/os-process.html#l2h-2761
>
> What do you mean b
>> > Well, I was trying to emphasize that it was, for pretty much all
>> > intents
>> > and purposes, infinite.
>>
>> Nope-nope-nope you're wrong :-)~
>
>
> The way I understood the 'period' of the random function was that after x
> calls to the function, you would start getting the same pattern
> So normally, after the period is up, it would choose a new seed? or does
> it repeat after the period whether or not the time has changed?
It would repeat whether or not the time has changed, naturally. How would
the algorithm know when the period has finished? The mersenne twister is
based o
> Thanks Alan and Kent (for the sorting notes)!
>
> Alan...I guess I thought outfile2 had data. { i.e.,
> outfile2=open('missmeas.dat','w') }
Argghh!!! No, no, no! Attribute Error! No matter how much data you have in
the file, you will *never* be able to call sort on it, because file objects
d
> That having been saisd their is another use for >> which is to append
> output to a file, as in:
>
> print 'hello world' >> myfile
>
> sends the string to myfile instead of to stdout. (Although I couldn't
> get this to
> work when I tried it!)
>
> Alan G.
>From Dive Into Python Section 10.2
> Just to check, try to do away with the backslashes. Windows will accept
> a path with forward slashes just as well:
>
> os.path.exists("c:/winnt/file_name")
>
> Nope, even, with the use of forward slashes in the path, it still returns
> false
>
> What am I doing wrong here ?
>
> This is driving
Hello people of the world.
This question is not a Python related question, but I thought I might just
throw it in here and see if there are any C old-timers who could help out.
I have a string with space and I would like to remove the space before
comparing but I don't know how to go about doin
> I have never understood Microsoft changing things from one release to
> another. In the beginning extensions were IIRC always visible.
>
> Every time I configure a computer I have to spend a lot of time undoing
> the initial settings so my users can get their work done!
Even though I completely
>> Granted, all of these are just visual sugar and are completely worthless.
>> But they have provided Microsoft with much money because more useless
>> people
>> can use computers. It is because these people do not wish to learn, do
>> not
>> have the capacity, or just plain would rather pay thr
>> But they have provided Microsoft with much money because more useless
>> people can use computers.
>
> That's a little harsh, isn't it? A person using a computer is not useless
> by virtue of not wanting to program or understand technical details, but
> rather just wanting to use it for its fun
I did that once for a very good fiction book I wanted to read. <$2. for
transfer. It was worth it to me. Agreed. Definitely a good system.
JS
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 12:48:05PM -0400, scott wrote:
>>
>> We do have a inter-library exchange here as well, but I have never used
>> it and don't kno
It is found in
python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-unicode\wx\py
pyAlaMode.py
I'm sure there are shortcuts, but that's where it is.
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Nice idea. Written style is average. Other tutors have discussed issues with
performance, style, etc. I thought I would mention that whenever I am asked
to give my opinion on a script, I compare it to something I have
written/would write. In this case, I have already written. In my version, it
> The modern way seems to be to look at the change amount given by the
> cash register and count that out starting with dollars...
So true... tsk tsk.
That's because the teenagers that give you the change do not know how to
count it back. What a great idea to write a program that can show them ho
> It turns out, no, Unicode won't work, but using x\99 for the TM character
> does, at least on my system (no idea if this will be universal):
That's strange. Windows is Unicode based! All text operations done in
Windows are first converted to unicode, calculated, and then back. That's
even been
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "domainspotter.py", line 150, in
>runMainParser()
> File "domainspotter.py", line 147, in runMainParser
>td.run()
> File "domainspotter.py", line 71, in run
>checkdomains.lookup()
> File "domainspotter.py", line 108, in lookup
>from r
> This is exactly what I needed, awesome! Looks like this is what you were
> saying to do?:
> http://docs.python.org/tut/node10.html#SECTION001050
Why ~ exactly! A link tells a thousand words. (Or maybe more.) So does that
mean that a link is inherently more valuable than a pictu
> Just curious: Is there a reason to use __getitem__() over itemgetter (used
> in the example in my reply)?
__getitem__ is a method builtin to a dict object. itemgetter 1) has to be
imported 2) is more generically used, therefore probably using a more
generic/slower algorithm
JS
> Dick Moores wrote:
>> (I posted this to the python-list 24 hours ago, and didn't get a
>> single response. How about you guys?)
> You mean this list? Cause if you mean this list, then you didn't post
> it correctly.
I don't believe he did. There are seperate python-lists, comp.lang.python,
one
It seems this is a delightful exchange of rude threats and insults. ;-)
My question is: If you love C syntax so much, why don't you program in C and
leave us python people alone?
And also: It is not the responsibility of the docs to ease the way for C
programmers. That is what a specific tutori
> foo = raw_input(...)
> x = eval(foo)
>
> Is an exception, in almost[*] every scenario I can think of. (and is the
> context eval was being used as far as I can see without reading the whole
> thread)
>
> [*] One scenario that seems unlikely but possible is a scenario where a
> machine has
> On Monday 13 August 2007 22:39, Tiger12506 wrote:
>> > foo = raw_input(...)
>> > x = eval(foo)
>> >
> ...
>> Let your program run on your machine and I'll walk by, type in this
>> string,
>> and hit enter. We'll see how much of
The point is that even though eval(raw_input()) is not a security threat,
Alan's suggestion of myscript.py < some.txt might be. And even though the
script written will not be a security issue, the *coding practice* that it
teaches will lead to times when he does encounter that "tiny set of
scenario
> Sorry about that. I want something like:
>
> class foo:
>
>def __init__(self):
>
> self.attr1 = None
>
>
>def get_attr1(self):
>
> if not self.attr1:
>
> attr1 =
>
> self.attr1 = attr1
>
> return self.attr1
>
>
> such that:
>
> foo_instanc
> Hi everyone -
> I'm beginning to learn how to program in python. I need to process
> several text files simultaneously. The program needs to open several files
> (like a corpus) and output the total number of words. I can do that with
> just one file but not the whole directory. I tried glob
If you run this code
#
f = open('test1.mlc')
for line in f:
print f.split()
#
You will see that about halfway through the file there is an empty list. I
assume that there was nothing on that line, in which case, there is no [0]
value.
In which case, you need to put in a try: except IndexError
> OK, the analogy is cute, but I really don't know what it means in
> Python. Can you give an example? What are the parts of an old-style
> class that have to be 'ordered' separately? How do you 'order' them
> concisely with a new-style class?
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
He is setting up the analogy so tha
I haven't seen anybody write down the full picture so that we are not
misled. Windows chooses which python to use in this manner.
1) If you double click on a .py file in windows, it looks in the registry
for the command string that pertains to "open".
The .py extension has a default value that
> s=set()
> [s.add(tuple(x)) for x in myEntries]
> myEntries = [list(x) for x in list(s)]
This could be written more concisely as...
s = set(tuple(x) for x in myEntries)
myEntries = [list(x) for x in list(s)]
Generator expressions are really cool.
Not what the OP asked for exactly. He wanted to
Sounds like an excuse for a global (aggh!) variable.
Or more properly, wrap all of the relevant functions in a class and use a
class variable for your puzzle
- Original Message -
From: "Devon MacIntyre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [Tutor]
Okay. "Class" is not a module. It is a keyword that defines a new type.
Similar to an integer, or a string. But in the case of a class, you define
what happens when you add, subtract, open, close, etc. by defining "methods"
of a class. A classic example is a car.
class Car:
running = 0
head
>> ##
> s = '/home/test/'
> s1 = s.lstrip('/ehmo')
> s1
>> 'test/'
>> ##
>>
>> Take a closer look at the documentation of lstrip, and you should see
>> that
>> what it takes in isn't treated as a prefix: rather, it'll be treated as a
>> se
I do not currently have wx installed, but I can see the errors...
I think some information will help you more than answers in this instance.
When you 'import clases_calling', what you are doing is creating a new
namespace. Inside that namespace is the class 'funct'. In your code, you
call the fu
>From your description, it sounds like the number of ovals placed depends
only on when the B1-Motion even is sent to your Canvas object. If you want
these a little more even, you might take the drawing code out of the
function that's bound to the mouse event, so that whenever you process you a
Write a python script that prints out what 2+2 is NOW!!!
And after you've done that, write one that does my chemistry homework,
IMMEDIATELY!
Bonk!
;-)
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The OP has not specified what his problems specifically are, but "earlylight
publishing" described his problem before, and he was not understanding why
the >>> prompt was expecting immediate keyboard input when he typed in
raw_input(). So a noob cannot figure out why it is advantageous to have a
> "johnf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
>> if self._inFlush:
>> return
>> self._inFlush = True
>>
>>
>> AND
>>
>> if not self._inFlush:
>> ...
>> self._inFlush = True
>> else:
>> return
>>
>> I can not see the difference but the second one acts differently in
>> my code.
>
> T
I may sound like a know-it-all, but dictionaries *are* iterators.
[a for a in eventData if eventData[a] < time.time()]
This is more efficient. The keys method creates a list in memory first and
then it iterates over it.
Unnecessary.
>
> "Che M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
>> Although I was not
> Hey Tiger,
> your system clock is set incorrectly and your e-mail was flagged as being
> sent 12/12/2008, causing it to appear after an e-mail sent as a reply -
> confusing.
> Please remedy this situation ;P
> -Luke
Whoops!! I have to mess with my clock occasionally to test the integrity of
My apologies for mistaking your gender. Because English does not have
adequate neutral gender indication, I tend to use the male as such, as they
do in Spanish, and perhaps many other languages. At any rate, that's how
it's written in the Bible.
I presumed that it was an issue with raw input be
> Despite what your english teacher might have tried to make you
> believe, they were wrong about the lack of a neutral in english. Just
> like ending sentences with prepositions has always been done and
> always will be done, the use of "they" to refer to someone of
> indeterminate gender has bee
> Mmm, to nit-pick a little, dictionaries are iterables, not iterators. They
> don't have a next() method.
I'm a little fuzzy on the details of that, I will have to look over some
reference material again.
>> [a for a in eventData if eventData[a] < time.time()]
>>
>> This is more efficient. The
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