Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 471 -- os.scandir() function -- a better and faster directory iterator

2014-06-26 Thread Ryan
+1 for scandir. -1 for iterdir(scandir sounds fancier). - for windows_wildcard. Tim Delaney wrote: >On 27 June 2014 09:28, MRAB wrote: > >> Personally, I'd prefer the name 'iterdir' because it emphasises that >> it's an iterator. > > >Exactly what I was going to post (with the added note

Re: [Python-Dev] Move selected documentation repos to PSF BitBucket account?

2014-11-23 Thread Ryan
I can agree with most of these points. Some more things to consider: - Git is 20x faster than Hg (that's 99% of the reason I switched and hate using Darcs) - People attached to Hg can use Hg-Git; I've used it several times with nice results. It can also be used to easily convert Hg repos to Git

Re: [Python-Dev] Move selected documentation repos to PSF BitBucket account?

2014-11-23 Thread Ryan
Georg Brandl wrote: >On 11/23/2014 07:03 PM, Ryan wrote: >> I can agree with most of these points. Some more things to consider: >> >> - Git is 20x faster than Hg (that's 99% of the reason I switched and >hate using >> Darcs) > >You won't get muc

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-29 Thread Ryan
>[ 01-29 19:30:55.855 23373:23373 F/libc ] >Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x (code=1), thread 23373 (python) > >Less detail than strace but it seems to be that python is segfaulting >libc... > >On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ryan Gonzalez >wrote: >> O

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-31 Thread Ryan
No; I was looking for all uses of _PyRaw_Strdup. Surprisingly, it's used only a few times. Cyd Haselton wrote: >Question: >When you said earlier that you found the problem by using grep...were >you looking for places where strdup called locale? > >On January 30, 2015

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-02-01 Thread Ryan
3.4.x >for me...I may go back to working on 2.7.x > >Sent from my android device. > >-Original Message- >From: Ryan Gonzalez >To: Cyd Haselton >Cc: Python-Dev >Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 7:53 PM >Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan
Thank you so much! Ryan Smith-Roberts wrote: >On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Smith-Roberts >wrote: >> I'm not an official cpython developer but ifdef __ANDROID__ is quite >in line >> with other per-platform support (__FreeBSD__, __linux__, etc), as >well

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 465: A dedicated infix operator for matrix multiplication

2014-04-08 Thread Ryan
Ooooh...that stings. Victor Stinner wrote: >2014-04-08 3:04 GMT+02:00 Steven D'Aprano : >>> > >Python used to have an alias <> for != and I for one miss <> in >3.x. I >>> > >don't think TOOWTDI should be the last word in this debate. >>> > >>> > PEP 401 to the rescue: >>> >>> It occurs to me tha

Re: [Python-Dev] subprocess shell=True on Windows doesn't escape ^ character

2014-06-11 Thread Ryan
Of course! And, why not escape everything else, too? abc -> ^a^b^c echo %PATH% -> ^e^c^h^o^ ^%^P^A^T^H^% In all seriousness, to me this is obvious. When you pass a command to the shell, naturally, certain details are shell-specific. -1. Bad idea. Very bad idea. If you want the ^ to be esca

Re: [Python-Dev] Make extension module initialisation more like Python module initialisation

2013-08-06 Thread Ryan
Nice idea, but some of those may break 3rd party libraries like Boost. Python that have their own equilavent of the Python/C API. Or Even SWIG might experience trouble in one or two of those. Stefan Behnel wrote: >Hi, > >let me revive and summarize this old thread. > >Stefan Behnel, 08.11.2012

Re: [Python-Dev] Deprecating the formatter module

2013-08-12 Thread Ryan
I never realized it existed till now. Considering the usually erratic projects I like do, I can see that coming in use in several in which I had to do odd workarounds. Keep it, but put better documentation. It's needed. Brett Cannon wrote: >At the PyCon CA sprint someone discovered the format

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 450 adding statistics module

2013-08-15 Thread Ryan
For the naming, how about changing median(callable) to median.regular? That way, we don't have to deal with a callable namespace. Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On 15/08/13 21:42, Mark Dickinson wrote: >> The PEP and code look generally good to me. >> >> I think the API for median and its variants des

Re: [Python-Dev] please back out changeset f903cf864191 before alpha-2

2013-08-26 Thread Ryan
How about StreamParser? I mean, even if it isn't quite the same, that name would still make sense. Eli Bendersky wrote: >On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Antoine Pitrou >wrote: > >> Le Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:44:41 +0200, >> Simon Cross a écrit : >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Antoine Pitr

Re: [Python-Dev] please back out changeset f903cf864191 before alpha-2

2013-08-26 Thread Ryan
Nonblocking sounds too Internet-related. How about...flow? Ah, I'll probably still end up using Expat regardless. Eli Bendersky wrote: >On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Paul Moore >wrote: > >> On 26 August 2013 17:40, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> >>> Yes, exactly :-) "Incremental", though, seems

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 to end support with 2.6.9 in October 2013

2013-09-03 Thread Ryan
I'm still waiting on Python 2.7 for Android! Stuck on 2.6 for now...ugh! Wonder if I can build it myself... Barry Warsaw wrote: >Hello Pythonistas, > >Python 2.6.9 is the last planned release of the 2.6.x series. This >will be a >security-only source-only release. It is currently scheduled fo

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 450 adding statistics module

2013-09-08 Thread Ryan
...what's a PEP dictator? Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > >I'd like to get some attention for this please. > > >On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:58:39PM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> I think that PEP 450 is now ready for a PEP dictator. There have been >a >> number of code reviews, a

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0a2

2013-09-09 Thread Ryan
HALLELUJAH!!! Ned Deily wrote: >In article <522db8d3.1030...@hastings.org>, > Larry Hastings wrote: > >> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm chuffed to announce the >> second alpha release of Python 3.4. > >Yay! 3.4.0a2 also contains a new batteries-included feature for OS X >users.

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler for the Mac OS X version of Python 3.4

2013-09-14 Thread Ryan
+1. A 10.6-only build makes sense. If you aren't having problems with GCC 4.8, then Clang shouldn't give any trouble. Honestly, I still think Clang should be a compiler option in Windows distutils... Raymond Hettinger wrote: > >On Sep 14, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> The >> most r

Re: [Python-Dev] Use an empty def as a lambda

2013-09-21 Thread Ryan
Change def to func? That's the worst idea I've heard yet. Def is already there; why break all existing code just for a word? "Westley Martínez" wrote: >'def' is no more ambiguous than 'lambda', and is in fact more >ambiguous, >for 'def' doesn't lend itself to anything other than the word define

Re: [Python-Dev] https:bugs.python.org -- Untrusted Connection (Firefox)

2014-08-21 Thread Ryan Hiebert
> On Aug 21, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > Am 21.08.14 17:44, schrieb Nick Coghlan: >> I've now raised this issue with the infrastructure team. The current >> hosting arrangements for bugs.python.org were put in place when the >> PSF didn't have any on-call system administrators

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft Visual C++ Compiler for Python 2.7

2014-09-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EId

Re: [Python-Dev] [OFF-TOPIC] It is true that is impossible write in binary code, the lowest level of programming that you can write is in hex code?

2014-11-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
t; https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > > -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated." Personal reality disto

Re: [Python-Dev] Improvements for Pathlib

2014-11-08 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
store the internal zipfile object. > Perhaps the accessor? > > Ideally the ZipFiles would work with the shtuil-like api just fine (or at > least the readonly operations). > > Thanks, > -- Ionel M. > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows Dedicated Mailing List

2014-11-14 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
__ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer wi

Re: [Python-Dev] Move selected documentation repos to PSF BitBucket account?

2014-11-23 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
g on, > which will lead to more time spent learning more about how to do it > instead of doing it, and more time spent recovering > from errors because of the differences. > > -- > ~Ethan~ > > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Py

[Python-Dev] Google search labels Python 2.7 docs as Python 3.4

2014-12-31 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Not sure if this is something to post here...but... [image: Inline image 1] -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated." Personal reality distortion

Re: [Python-Dev] python 2.7.9 regression in argparse?

2015-01-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ave been silent on the issue. >> >> This is not the first time someone considered a 'bug fix' to be a >> 'regression', which it might be from their viewpoint. The last comment on >> the github thread suggests that an easy fix was found. >> >> -- &g

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-15 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Genix pyOpenSSL 0.13.7 ... http://egenix.com/go68 > > 2015-01-20: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ...http://egenix.com/go69 > > > > : Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :: > > > >eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pa

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-15 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
If you expand the Details section, it says the version is 7.1. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2015-01-15 22:39 GMT+01:00 Ryan Gonzalez : > > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8279 > > "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Replacement for Python's help()?

2015-01-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
;> >> Python-Dev@python.org >> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> >> Unsubscribe: >> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/guido%40python.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
d thing I have addr2line on device > > /bld/python/Python-3.4.2 $ addr2line -C -f -e /lib/libpython3.4m.so.1.0 > 0008bbc8 > _PyMem_RawStrdup > /bld/python/Python-3.4.2/Objects/obmalloc.c:323 > /bld/python/Python-3.4.2 $ > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ryan

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
dr2line -C -f -e /lib/libpython3.4m.so.1.0 > 0008bbc8 > >> _PyMem_RawStrdup > >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2/Objects/obmalloc.c:323 > >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2 $ > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ryan wrote: > >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
linked to). On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Cyd Haselton wrote: > I don't have gdb on device; does the following tell you where Python's > strdup is called? > > >> _PyMem_RawStrdup > >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2/Objects/obmalloc.c:323 > > On Fri, Jan

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
copy = PyMem_RawMalloc(size); > if (copy == NULL) > return NULL; > memcpy(copy, str, size); > return copy; > } > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > I seriously doubt the issue is in that file; _PyMem_RawStrdup crashes >

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
l getting a segfault on the newly built binary. > Will post info this afternoon. > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > No, it returns NULL if malloc gives it a raw pointer. It unconditionally > > checks the length of the (possibly null) string argument first

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
h and type: backtrace You should now see a complete backtrace in your terminal. To GDB, type: quit *crosses fingers* On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Cyd Haselton wrote: > Unfortunately it is still reporting the same function :-/. > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Ryan Gonza

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ing it's impossible...just that it'll take time...and I'll > probably have to tackle it tomorrow (earliest) or Sunday (latest). In > the meantime I'll also check to see if there's anything that can a) > run in an Android terminal and b) can take a stack trace; it would

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-01-31 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Regardless, if you're looking to toy more with stuff like this, I'd highly recommend dual-booting with Ubuntu, which is what I'm doing now. (Now I rarely ever boot into Windows!) On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > Do you have just the SDK (which doesn'

Re: [Python-Dev] Newly Built Python3 Binary Throws Segfault

2015-02-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
#x27;t (of course) segfault. I'll pull gdb, get the results and > send them. > > On January 31, 2015 1:10:18 PM CST, Ryan wrote: > >> No; I was looking for all uses of _PyRaw_Strdup. Surprisingly, it's used >> only a few times. >> >> Cyd Haselton wro

Re: [Python-Dev] Import Fails in setup.py On Android

2015-02-02 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
led' errors for each extension...like this: > > *** WARNING: importing extension "_pickle" failed with 'AttributeError'>: 'module' object has no attribute 'load' > > > On February 2, 2015 1:36:29 PM CST, Cyd Haselton > wrote: >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Import Fails in setup.py On Android

2015-02-02 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
t in the environment throws the > error and setup.py fails. > > I'll roll back that change...any idea where I could find info about the > original method? > > > On February 2, 2015 3:17:54 PM CST, Ryan Gonzalez > wrote: >> >> In reality, things just got brok

Re: [Python-Dev] ?s re documentation of Python features

2015-02-24 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
are in the > greater Seattle area where I live- but I don't know how to find even one at > this time. > > Garry Crane > gandkcr...@msn.com > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.o

[Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
000 lines of Python's configure script. ;) -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated." Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictor

Re: [Python-Dev] Working on issue 23496: should I use a macro test or an edit to configure.ac?

2015-02-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
DOES NOBODY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS??? I'm REALLY relying on someone who works on Python to answer this. PLEASE?? On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > So... > > There was a recent discussion here on porting Python to Android. Well, for > those of you who sa

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 471 Final: os.scandir() merged into Python 3.5

2015-03-07 Thread Ryan Stuart
Hi, On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 at 12:33 Ben Hoyt wrote: > Others: if you want to benchmark this, the simplest way is to use my > os.walk() benchmark.py test program here: > https://github.com/benhoyt/scandir -- it compares the built-in os.walk() > implemented with os.listdir() with a version of walk() i

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 471 Final: os.scandir() merged into Python 3.5

2015-03-09 Thread Ryan Stuart
Hi Ben, On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 at 21:58 Ben Hoyt wrote: > Note that this benchmark is invalid for a couple of reasons. (...) > Thanks a lot for the guidance Ben, greatly appreciated. Just starting to take an interest in the development of CPython and so something like running a benchmark seemed lik

Re: [Python-Dev] importante!!

2015-03-31 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ng list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than you

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-04-08 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:37, Carl Meyer wrote: >> Anyone interested in a session on this, mail me and we'll set up a >> time and place! > > I'm interested in the topic, and would probably attend a BoF at PyCon. I'm of a similar mind. ___ Python-Dev maili

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
t;> they are the correct place to put type hints, not a workaround. >> > > How about "header" files? > > (ducks...) > > Isaac Morland CSCF Web Guru > DC 2619, x36650 WWW Software Specialist > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
re you meant to type that. If you find those other > languages appealing I invite you to go use them instead. > > -Jack > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2003-February/033291.html > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list &

Re: [Python-Dev] async/await PEP

2015-04-21 Thread Ryan Hiebert
On Apr 21, 2015, at 3:23 AM, Martin Teichmann wrote: > > Hi Yury, Hi List, > > I do certainly like the idea of PEP 492, just some small comments: > > why do we need two keywords? To me it is not necessarily intuitive > when to use async and when to use await (why is it async for and not > await

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3152 and yield from Future()

2015-04-23 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Then blow it up like Duck Dynasty does. On April 23, 2015 12:07:46 PM CDT, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:58:33 -0700 >Guido van Rossum wrote: >> I think this is the nail in PEP 3152's coffin. > >If you only put one nail, it might manage to get out. > >Regards > >Antoine. > > >___

Re: [Python-Dev] Sub-claasing pathlib.Path seems impossible

2015-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
*French math teacher in a "Lycée" **and **Python **amateur developer* > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 492: async/await in Python; version 5

2015-05-07 Thread Ryan Hiebert
iterating > over them can once again closely resemble the idiom for iterating over > regular (synchronous) streams using for-loops.) > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido <http://python.org/~guido>) > ___ > Python-Dev mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Interesting what version of python should I start with

2017-11-02 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
my iPhone > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimo

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing files from the repository

2017-11-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
don't know that similar file existed. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: [Python-Dev] Mostly Official Python Development Container Image

2017-12-10 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
can pull >the image in a .gitlab-ci.yml file to run tests against all these >versions of Python. Here’s an example from the importlib_resources >project: > >https://gitlab.com/python-devs/importlib_resources/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml > >We welcome contributors on the ci-image

Re: [Python-Dev] Trying to build from source, test-poplib fails

2018-04-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://

[Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
re intentional to drive you crazy for a few hours. I blame Randall Monroe. You're welcome. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On April 25, 2018 11:05:04 PM Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:36:31PM -0500, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: I have to say I'm not overly thrilled with PEP 572...it's almost odd, because if you asked me back when I first joined this list when I was 13, I would'v

Re: [Python-Dev] Is PEP 572 really the most effective way to solve the problems it's targeting?

2018-04-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
hought of Swift (Ryan mentioned), Kotlin, Rust, and perhaps Go, though Go wasn't focused on breaking new ground outside of ease of concurrency. I don't know R or Felix at all, but sound interesting. Nim is another I'm vaguely aware of. They surely have given some thought to the issue. O

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I'm hardly an expert, but AFAIK CPython's start-up issues are more due to a mix of architectural issues and the fact that it's hard to optimize imports while maintaining backwards compatibility with Python's dynamism. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOI

Re: [Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter?

2018-05-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Slow down...

2018-05-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
; -- > Craig > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura

Re: [Python-Dev] A fast startup patch (was: Python startup time)

2018-05-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
e or workflows.  -- ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST),

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-05-11 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
https://refi64.com/uprocd/ On May 11, 2018 9:39:28 AM Chris Barker - NOAA Federal via Python-Dev wrote: Inspired by chg: Could one make a little startup utility that, when invoked the first time, starts up a raw python interpreter, keeps it running somewhere, and then forks it to run the

Re: [Python-Dev] Troubles to merge changes in the 2.7 branch: PR "out-of-date" branch

2018-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
AFAIK there's no setting like this available, and I've done this many times on other repos with no trouble. Maybe it could be a GitHub bug? On May 28, 2018 4:59:03 AM Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, Since one or two weeks, I noticed that it's difficult to merge pull requests into the 2.7 branch.

Re: [Python-Dev] Unable to build regex module against Python 3.5 32-bit

2015-05-25 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Try building the module with -m32. The error message basically means: "../libpython35.a is 32-bit, but what you're building is 64-bit." Gotta love ld! On May 25, 2015 3:06:01 PM CDT, MRAB wrote: >As the subject says, I've been unable to build the regex module against >Python 3.5b1 for 32-bit. Mi

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
py2exe tends to invoke DLL hell if you have various versions of VS or Office or both installed. Because Windows. On May 28, 2015 11:23:57 AM CDT, Chris Barker wrote: >I'm confused: > >Doesn't py2exe (optionally) create a single file executable? > >And py2app on the Mac creates an application bu

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I agree that size is an issue, but is it really that bad? Just compare it to the recent "web surge" where everyone is writing desktop apps in HTML5+CSS+JS and bundling a huge WebKit engine in their apps binary. Python on Windows is seriously in a bad state. IMO, what needs to be prioritized is

Re: [Python-Dev] Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ _

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

2015-05-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
; > Paul > > PS Current launchers (py.exe, the entry point launchers from > pip/setuptools, etc) tend to spawn the actual python program in a > subprocess. I believe there are *technically* some differences in the > runtime environment when you use an em

[Python-Dev] Where are bugs with the web site reported?

2015-07-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I have encountered this weird issue on Chrome for Android where scrolling up just a little causes the page to dart to the top. I was going to report it in the bug tracker, but I didn't see a label for the web site itself. Worst part is, this is stopping me from reading the humor page! -- Sent

Re: [Python-Dev] Where are bugs with the web site reported?

2015-07-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
this seems like an interesting case to keep in mind while evolving viewport resize behaviors. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote: > On 7/16/2015 12:11 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > I have encountered this weird issue on Chrome for Android where scrolling > up ju

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-17 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
I am tempted to reply with a slightly sarcastic message involving a cookie... On July 17, 2015 6:40:21 PM CDT, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >Frankly, this kind of inept discussion, where a bunch of folks get hung >up about an extremely minor design decision (who cares whether "assret" >is being specia

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-25 Thread Ryan Hiebert
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 09:15, Alexander Belopolsky > wrote: > > >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> There really is a reason every other date time implementation I know >> of uses UTC internally, and there really is a reason why everyone >> always recommends storing d

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Ryan Hiebert
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:54:02AM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Paul Moore wrote: >>> I'm confused by your position. If it's 7am on the clock behind me, >>> right now, then how (under the model propo

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Ryan Hiebert
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Alexander Belopolsky > wrote: > > On the other hand, these rare events are not that different from more or less > regular DST > transitions. You still have either a non-existent or ambiguous local times > interval and > you can resolve the ambiguity by adding

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Issue-subprocess problem

2015-08-27 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
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[Python-Dev] python programmer

2015-09-02 Thread Linda Ryan
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Re: [Python-Dev] What's New editing

2015-09-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On September 5, 2015 12:27:26 PM CDT, David Mertz wrote: >I have to apologize profusely here. Just after I offered to do this >(and >work even said it was OK in principle to do it on work time), my work >load >went through the roof. And now it's really already later than most of >it >should ha

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-12 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On September 12, 2015 6:14:58 PM CDT, Tim Delaney wrote: >On 13 September 2015 at 04:42, Oleg Broytman wrote: > >>There are too many things that I personally can do with git but >can't >> do with hg. Because of that I switched all my development from hg to >git >> and I am willing to help

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: Collecting information about git

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
_ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
There is one reason I would be really freaking mad if they deprecated other uses of annotations: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/plac On October 5, 2015 1:55:37 PM CDT, Steve Wedig wrote: >Congratulations on the release of 3.5 and Pep 484. I've used Python >professionally for 10 years and I believ

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
PSF. Nothing personal, of course... On October 5, 2015 3:01:11 PM CDT, Guido van Rossum wrote: >"They"? > >On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Ryan Gonzalez >wrote: > >> There is one reason I would be really freaking mad if they deprecated >> o

Re: [Python-Dev] Not Deprecating Arbitrary Function Annotations

2015-10-05 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
ideas of course). > >I'm sorry you don't feel more included, but I really don't like the >idea of >"us vs. them" in this list. We're all working together to make Python >the >best language it can be. > >--Guido > >On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:18

[Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-21 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
It mentions fr'...' as a formatted raw string but doesn't say anything about rf'...'. Right now, in implementing PEP 498 support in Howl (https://github.com/howl-editor/howl/pull/118 and https://github.com/howl-editor/howl/commit/1e577da89efc1c1de780634b531f64346cf586d6#diff-851d9b84896270cc7e3b

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Ah, I missed that part. Sorry! :/ On October 22, 2015 7:27:41 AM CDT, "Eric V. Smith" wrote: >On 10/22/2015 7:32 AM, Eric V. Smith wrote: >> On 10/21/2015 10:57 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: >>> It mentions fr'...' as a formatted raw string but doesn't say

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On October 22, 2015 11:10:48 AM CDT, "Sven R. Kunze" wrote: >On 22.10.2015 13:32, Eric V. Smith wrote: >> ['B', 'BF', 'BFR', 'BFr', 'BR', 'BRF', 'BRf', 'Bf', 'BfR', 'Bfr', >'Br', >> 'BrF', 'Brf', 'F', 'FB', 'FBR', 'FBr', 'FR', 'FRB', 'FRb', 'Fb', >'FbR', >> 'Fbr', 'Fr', 'FrB', 'Frb', 'R', 'RB',

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-22 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
But it'd be weird now if fR worked but fbR didn't. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote: > On 22.10.2015 18:17, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > >> >>> anything about it. 'FbR', really? >>>> >>> Why not disallowing them? >

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Why not just check the path of the imported modules and compare it with the Python library directory? On October 29, 2015 3:26:08 PM CDT, Mark Roseman wrote: >Laura, I think what you want should actually be more-or-less doable in >IDLE. > >The main routine that starts IDLE should be able to dete

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, tell your friend that that means middle and high schoolers must think alike! :D On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:50:30 -0500, Ryan Gonzalez writes: > >Why not just check the path of the imported modules and compare it w

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
logging.warning('stdlib module %s was overriden', name) return module sys.meta_path.append(StdlibTester()) import string On October 29, 2015 7:06:51 PM CDT, "R. David Murray" wrote: >On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:56:38 -0700, Nathaniel Smith >wrote: >&

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7.11 plans

2015-11-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
n/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [Python-Dev] modernizing IDLE

2015-11-10 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ __

Re: [Python-Dev] Reading Python source file

2015-11-18 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Well, not quite the same thing, but https://github.com/kirbyfan64/pfbuild/blob/master/pfbuild embeds the compressed version of 16k LOC. Would it be affected negatively in any way be this? Since all the data is on one line, I'd think the old (current) parser would end up reading in the whole lin

Re: [Python-Dev] "python.exe is not a valid Win32 app"

2015-12-01 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Did you get the x86-64 version or x86? If you had gotten the former, it would lead to that error. On December 1, 2015 8:30:25 AM CST, Alexei Belenki via Python-Dev wrote: >Installed python 3.5 (from https://www.python.org/downloads/) on >Windows XPsp3/32 >On starting >>python.exe got the text a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton wrote: >In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes: >>On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote: >>> Intentional or Oversight? >> >>Hard to find :-) >> >>https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#dis

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On December 3, 2015 10:09:56 AM CST, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > >On December 3, 2015 8:26:23 AM CST, Laura Creighton >wrote: >>In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes: >>>On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote: >>>> I

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