[Mailman-Users] non_members script install issue

2018-11-15 Thread Lucio
I'm trying to use the non_members script by Mark Sapiro, which can be downloaded here: https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members on a Debian buster/sid amd64 system. # non_members Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/sbin/non_members", line 63, in import paths What sho

Re: [Mailman-Users] non_members script install issue

2018-11-15 Thread Lucio
I left part of the error message out by mistake: ImportError: No module named paths Il 15/11/18 13:54, Lucio ha scritto: I'm trying to use the non_members script by Mark Sapiro, which can be downloaded here: https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members on a Debian buster/sid amd64 s

[Mailman-Users] Insecure setup?

2020-06-01 Thread Lucio
Until a few hours ago I was running mailman 2.1.29 on Debian Stretch, as packaged by Debian, e.g. mailman_1:2.1.29-1_amd64.deb, so I was missing the latest update published by Debian on April, 24 as mailman_1:2.1.29-1+deb10u1_amd64.deb. That means my mailman was vulnerable to this specific issu

[Mailman-Users] archives of sibling lists

2011-06-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
work anyhow. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal

[Mailman-Users] feature suggestion for digest mode ?

2012-01-24 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ent keywords" in the Message/RFC822 components ! -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.ina

Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail "features"

2012-08-07 Thread Lucio Crusca
Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > > Your fact is presumably due to some error in observation, since Gmail > acknowledges this behavior as a feature of Gmail. It is simply not > possible to receive your own posts on Gmail; you can only keep the > Sent folder copy. I can confirm my observation is corre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail "features"

2012-08-08 Thread Lucio Crusca
Brad Rogers writes: > Gmail has *always* been that way. There is a workaround. Maybe it is > employed (if only by accident) on the lists you mention. It is required > that the list be set up with the following; > > Receive: list.foo.bar Ok, I think the example fits my case (3rd level domain is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail "features"

2012-08-08 Thread Lucio Crusca
Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > Lucio Crusca writes: > > Feel free to try subscribing to the above list and try posting from > > gmail. > > OK, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I need to sleep after > that last goal by Mexico. :-( Probably you don't need to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail "features"

2012-08-09 Thread Lucio Crusca
Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > I don't think so. Perhaps "MUA" is the wrong term for a message store > "in the cloud", but the fact is that Gmail is the final recipient as > far as the RFCs are concerned. Eg, IMAP servers often implement SIEVE > recipes and spam filtering, so some messages will be

[Mailman-Users] mass edit on a mailing list

2012-11-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
) ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Italian Research STILL at risk. La Ricerca italiana TUTTORA a rischio ! see http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions

[Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
page) ? (Preferably one which does NOT store password outside of the local machine) Thanks -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 26 May 2014, Adam McGreggor wrote: You might be able to set all passwords to be the same -- within your options page (e.g.,) I do use the same password for stuff which is mine only, but these are shared with other co-moderators. And apparently at NASA they are also over-concerned (I

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-27 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? My all time favorite: www.passwordmaker.org Doesn&#

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
passwords to be used on remote sites, requiring to CHANGE those currently in use. Did I understand wrong ? On 5/27/2014 6:11 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Unfortunately this presupposes the ability to change the remote lsit admin password, which in my case is fixed since it is shared by

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-30 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 30 May 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: acceptable to him either, as far as I can see he's very concerned about security. Well, I'm personally NOT very concerned about security. But for my bank account (protected by one-shot hardware key), my payslip, and perhaps my health service re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mac, me, icloud. Many domains one user.

2014-10-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
icial feature (perhaps mantained via the web interface), it might be an interesting feature. -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Fo

[Mailman-Users] strange -owner behavior?

2010-03-07 Thread Lucio Crusca
sages to the address linux08-ow...@lists.virtual-bit.com but that address does not exist. The fact is that I do not want it to exist, because I've configured my usual email address in the list owner field of the list control panel. Why mailman sends to

[Mailman-Users] not receiveng moderator notifications

2010-03-15 Thread Lucio Crusca
same server with the same moderator address configured do work instead. Can you help me track down the problem please? Thanks in advace Lucio. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] not receiveng moderator notifications

2010-03-15 Thread Lucio Crusca
In data lunedì 15 marzo 2010 08:16:00, Lucio Crusca ha scritto: > I've a mailman/debian lenny running a few lists... Sorry, please ignore my post, I've just realized I had already started a thread on this subject and I prefer going on

[Mailman-Users] available lists in a single page

2010-03-16 Thread Lucio Crusca
Hello *, my mailman hosts 8 lists, but only 6 are shown in this available lists page: http://vps.virtual-bit.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo One of the missing two shows up here: http://lists.virtual-bit.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo and the last one is here http://sulweb.org/cgi-bin/mailman/list

[Mailman-Users] cannot add user or create mailing list

2011-03-28 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
olution on my local machine, and an understanding of the inner working of mailman, some creative user of crontab scripts or NFS mounts could make the mailman aliases available to all NIS clients and visible to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] cannot add user or create mailing list

2011-03-30 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
Please advise if preferred policy on this list is reply to all or reply to list, and excuse if I did wrong. On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Recently I decided to make an experiment, so I installed mailman 2.1.11 via the suse 11.3 distribution on my machine

[Mailman-Users] bug adding user, and archiving gets "shunted"

2011-03-30 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Lucio Chiappetti wrote in thread starting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2011-March/071332.html and ran bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url I still have some problems when subscribing a new user, and concerning message archiving. I will post a separate

Re: [Mailman-Users] bug adding user, and archiving gets "shunted"

2011-03-31 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lucio Chiappetti wrote: - when subscribing an user (myself) to [any] list via the web interface I get the message on the screen Bug in Mailman version 2.1.11 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this pr

[Mailman-Users] archiving gets "shunted"

2011-03-31 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
s are generated. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal

Re: [Mailman-Users] bug adding user, and archiving gets "shunted"

2011-04-01 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: This error is due to one of several known incompatibilities between Mailman versions older than 2.1.12 and Python 2.6 or later. See the FAQ at . I read the FAQ, which was however last updated in 2009. This MIGHT not be a pro

[Mailman-Users] separate mx, mailman and web host

2011-04-01 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lucio Chiappetti wrote: (QUESTION 5) The arrangement on the target system will be more complicated. because our aliases are mantained on the NIS master server. The master and slave servers are also the domain main and backup MX. However the web

[Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers @ notation

2011-04-11 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
e checks to be considered effective as antispam measures ? do they just use the value of the header From field (which can be faked) or use info from the SMTP dialogue ? -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-2013

[Mailman-Users] cannot update regular_include_lists

2011-04-11 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
se info from the SMTP dialogue ? -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milan

[Mailman-Users] IGNORE message cannot update regular_include_lists

2011-04-11 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
Please ignore half-edited message just sent. I should have cancelled it. It left by mistake. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Se

Re: [Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers @ notation

2011-04-12 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lucio Chiappetti wrote: The help text for accept_these_nonmembers says [...] I cannot manage to have the @ notation working though. The first syntax without the space after the @ is the correct one. It is being rejected because a list cannot

Re: [Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers @ notation

2011-04-13 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Only I noticed that nesting of sibling lists is not allowed (it does not work as expected). The sibling list feature, regular_include_lists and regular_exclude_lists does not work as you expect because it only affects

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman admin question

2011-04-22 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ognen Duzlevski wrote: How do I find out what "mailman join blah" resolves to? I guess my question is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join and subscribe requests? The MTA processes that ... I guess the OP did not want to know h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
g more than one addresses (inserting them at MUA level in the ONLY From line allowed by the MUA), when I wanted replies forced to more than one address. -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
d MUAs should have a way to deal with MIME digests, it is just a matter for the user to find it. If you can find it for the most common MUAs used by your users, then you could write instructions in a FAQ -- ---- Lucio Chiappett

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Peter Shute wrote: On 17 Dec 2014, at 8:58 pm, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I find they are a great way to receive messages once per day (more or less) without being pestered by single messages as they come

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
nal script to support it. But ... yes, you can :-) -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: > I hope it is allowed to post a few screendumps to demonstrate Unfortunately, Mailman @python.org doesn't pass those, OK, should be here (do not know why first got a different name) http://i62.tinypic.com/2l9

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
rocmail) to filter out the unwanted stuff (since I could not educate my correspondents) http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/Procmail/noquotenohtml.html So my preference is to either reply with my contribution, or trim the original text to the parts I want to reply, and interleave my

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
to archive in each new message the entire content I already archived in the previous ones of the same thread. Of course assuming we are talking of a serious correspondence worth being archived, not a chat. -- Lucio

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
go to the list archive. For personal (work) correspondence I need no threading. I archive message in separate folders by project/topic, and I can zoom in by subject. -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 -

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
my MUA (Alpine) I've programmed it so that a single keystroke (for me it is capital D) will expand the digest in a temporary folder where I deal with individual messages. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassi

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-24 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Subscribing in digest mode allows me to receive one cumulative post per day which is something many people can appreciate (at least those who subscribe to mailing list, and then complain because they

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-24 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
nt to the digest message, and type a capital D. That will spawn a one-liner script and then move to the folder contains the expanded digest. The one-liner uses a procmail utility to split the digest into a folder: formail +1 -ds >

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-24 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: digest mode allows o receive one cumulative post per day which is something many people can appreciate (at

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-25 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
;nomail", but if one has many lists, it's too boring to do it (and reset it later) for each list, easier to filter collectively. -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-03 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox >

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
list (e.g. scroll alphabetically, or search users who have a specific flag settings). -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf

[Mailman-Users] permission for archives

2015-06-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
am not sure I have all of them though !) -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] permission for archives

2015-06-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Mark Sapiro wrote: 2) apparently since the wrong permission were setup, archiving stopped to work. Is there a way to rebuild the archives from messages stored in personal folders (I am not sure I have all of them though !) Just fix the permissions and run Mailman's b

[Mailman-Users] using topics

2015-11-25 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ministrators of the central site are keen to change. but if a more recent version is more suited for this sort of filtering we might consider it. Thanks -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to actively read the list online?

2016-07-08 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
me back votes which will not be counted anyhow.) -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to actively read the list online?

2016-07-12 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ag to the Not sure if there is an easy provision to customize the mailman archive pages with such a tag -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to actively read the list online?

2016-07-13 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: > Anyhow, getting a self-refreshing html page is just a matter of adding a > tag to the Sure, but if the page itself is static (as in a conventional mailing list archive), that won't help. The archive hos

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

2016-09-05 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
RFC822 attachment one by one as a normal e-mail. -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milan

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

2016-09-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Matt Morgan wrote: Now that I understand them, I think I'll start using MIME digests them for myself when I can. And I like offering the option. The question is more, what would I use as the default? And I think honestly that putting everyone on MIME digests would substantial

[Mailman-Users] gid problem upgrading mailman under opensuse leap 42

2018-08-28 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ROR MENTIONED ABOVE (8) (re)start apache, sendmail and mailman -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html "All that is googl

Re: [Mailman-Users] non_members script install issue

2018-11-15 Thread Lucio Crusca
On 15/11/18 18:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: As it says in the script, "This script must run from Mailman's bin/ directory." Sure, but it doesn't say "This script must be INSTALLED in the Mailman's bin/ directory." # cd /var/lib/mailman/bin # which non_members /usr/local/sbin/non_members # ls | grep

Re: [Mailman-Users] Translation (Localization) of mail addresses?

2018-12-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
forms, one will have to choose the tense (infinitive, imperative or indicative) and the person (2nd singular, 2nd plural or 3rd courtesy form), Just crazy. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/persona

[Mailman-Users] Re: better filtering - help?

2020-05-27 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
er day?) discard it or let it pass. This makes use of REGULAR EXPRESSIONS (consult the online help). E.g. since our list is for a nationwide organization, it does not discard postings from our country (Italy, domain .it) and from another affiliated domain abroad e.g. ^.+@.+\.it ^.+@.+\.tng\.i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Insecure setup?

2020-06-01 Thread Lucio Crusca
Il 01/06/20 21:15, Mark Sapiro ha scritto: The trace headers in the message you attached all indicate it was sent and delivered to ada3167eb87301cb4835917425f07...@libero.it. You're right, I overlooked those headers and took for granted the recipient address I found from the MTA logs was the

[Mailman-Users] forbidding subscriptions to a list

2020-08-21 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
d like to close completely the list from subscription requests (so that they can be inserted only by the administrators). I thought to set ban_list ^.*@.* Is there any other better option ? Will the ban_list interfere with existing subscriptions ? (sent in Bcc to the other list maintainers) -- L

[Mailman-Users] migration from mailman 2 to 3

2022-01-31 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
e form of "under which new web page to look for a configuration item which was in a given old web page") Does anything like that exist ? Thanks Lucio Chiappetti -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
, and sendmail.cf concatenates it with the system one O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/mail/mailman.aliases (do NOT use the sendmail.cf lines I quote as they are ... go through the proper sendmail configuration) -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info

[Mailman-Users] Regreso de correos.

2002-08-15 Thread Oswaldo Lucio Estrada
Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Authentication-Warning: valdo.uadec.mx: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: "Oswaldo Lucio Estrada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sd

[Mailman-Users] please they answer (help me).

2002-08-19 Thread Oswaldo Lucio Estrada
(from apache@localhost) > by valdo.uadec.mx (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g7FNk6p17542; > Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Authentication-Warning: valdo.uadec.mx: apache set sender to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] us