Re: Deterministic formatter

2023-11-06 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Matt, On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 19:44, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Alright, after looking at the differences, I’m strongly in favor of the > Palantir version. The differences in how it handles lambdas solves one of the > main complaints I ever had about the Google version. The only disadvantage of t

Re: Features for 3.x was: Why is JNDI still necessary?

2023-11-06 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Ralph, On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 at 05:39, Ralph Goers wrote: > If we have changes in 2.x that are not in 3.x they aren’t many and we will > never find that out without releasing. In general users don’t want to use > alphas or betas. The alphas and betas are there so we can get feedback on > issue

[VOTE][LAZY] Release Apache Logging Parent 10.3.0 (RC2)

2023-11-06 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
This is a lazy-vote to release the Apache Logging Parent 10.3.0 RC2. Website: https://logging.staged.apache.org/logging-parent GitHub: https://github.com/apache/logging-parent Commit: ca99077f82923a97d79ea7947e05cb589873d241 Distribution: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/logging-pare

Re: Deterministic formatter

2023-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
Well, I use Eclipse, so... I won't be using whatever this does or when it does it. Gary On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 3:00 AM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Matt, > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 19:44, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > Alright, after looking at the differences, I’m strongly in favor of the > Palantir

Re: Features for 3.x was: Why is JNDI still necessary?

2023-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
It seems like a good idea to keep releasing alpha-beta-milestones (whatever we want to call these) for pre-3.0 for now. TBH, I've not even tried it in my work projects yet. I'd rather do that on a very recent alpha. It feels like our alpha1 is "old". Gary On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 4:37 AM Piotr P. Kar

Re: Deterministic formatter

2023-11-06 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Gary, On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 11:45, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Well, I use Eclipse, so... I won't be using whatever this does or when it > does it. What version of Eclipse do you use? The Eclipse plugin is one class, I can probably fix it, compile it and release it. Piotr

Re: Features for 3.x was: Why is JNDI still necessary?

2023-11-06 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Nov 6, 2023, at 2:37 AM, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > > Hi Ralph, > > On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 at 05:39, Ralph Goers wrote: >> If we have changes in 2.x that are not in 3.x they aren’t many and we will >> never find that out without releasing. In general users don’t want to use >> alphas or be

Re: Deterministic formatter

2023-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
The latest: 4.29.0 Gary On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 6:55 AM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Gary, > > On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 11:45, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > Well, I use Eclipse, so... I won't be using whatever this does or when it > > does it. > > What version of Eclipse do you use? The Eclipse plugi

Re: Deterministic formatter

2023-11-06 Thread Carter Kozak
I'd be happy to review+release changes to get the eclipse plugin in that repo into a good place as long as it doesn't make the build process a great deal more complicated. We don't have many folks internally using eclipse so support hasn't been a priority, but the easier it is to use across comm

[log4j] Security page refactoring

2023-11-06 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
I have created #1948 refactoring the Log4j security page. See the PR description for details. Reviews are welcome.

[log4j] What is JPMS support and its state

2023-11-06 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Could somebody help me to understand what we mean by JPMS support, please? Because I have the impression that people think `2.x` does not have JPMS support and `main` excels at it. `2.21.0` brought `2.x` a fully-fledged JPMS support. JPMS and OSGi descriptors are auto-generated by `bnd-maven-plugi

[RESULT] [VOTE] Deprecation of 2.x modules/features and removal in 3.x

2023-11-06 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi all, On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 09:44, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > > This is a vote to deprecate the following `2.x` modules and features > and remove them from the `3.x` release: > > * `log4j-cassandra`: > * CouchDB appender: > * `log4j-docker` > * GELF appender: > * Kafka appender: > * `log4

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Deprecation of 2.x modules/features and removal in 3.x

2023-11-06 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
this doesnt capture the account right for json and yaml layout. Gary only wants to keep the xml layout: https://lists.apache.org/thread/qdf5zrtqg294zj9voj6x7rlhsfln752p On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 22:52, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 09:44, Piotr P. Karwasz > wrote: > >

Re: [log4j] What is JPMS support and its state

2023-11-06 Thread Ralph Goers
You know, I almost didn’t want to answer this email because after reading the text it was quite obvious to me that the question you are really trying to ask is: “What more needs to be done to kill off 3.x?” That being said I will still answer your question. First, I will say that the work to c

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Deprecation of 2.x modules/features and removal in 3.x

2023-11-06 Thread Ralph Goers
I also voted +1 on log4j-spring-boot. Ralph > On Nov 6, 2023, at 2:51 PM, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 09:44, Piotr P. Karwasz > wrote: >> >> This is a vote to deprecate the following `2.x` modules and features >> and remove them from the `3.x` release: >>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Deprecation of 2.x modules/features and removal in 3.x

2023-11-06 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi, On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 22:51, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > * `log4j-spring-boot` (binding +1 from ggregory, grobmeier, vy and me), > * Java EE SMTP appender (binding +1 from ggregory, grobmeier, > mattsicker, rgoers, vy and me), Sorry, I inverted the list of voters here: for `log4j-spring-boot