Re: [all] What versions of java do we support?

Why are you singling out Corretto? What about AdoptOpenJDK or RedHat’s OpenJDK support? The ASF is supposed to be vendor neutral. Ralph > On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Rob Tompkins wrote: > > Hello all, > > I would think that with the Amazon Corretto play at long term support for > java 8 an

Re: [VFS] Publishing a snapshot

rsion: 1.6.0_31, vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. > Java home: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_31\jre > Default locale: en_US, platform encoding: Cp1252 > OS name: "windows 7", version: "6.1", arch: "amd64", family: "windows" > > Thank you, > Gar

Re: [VFS] Publishing a snapshot

Unfortunately, I don't have much time during work hours. I might have time tonight. Ralph On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> I did a fresh checkout and got the same error. Although I am using Ma

Re: [configuration] Checkstyle warning about double-checked locking in DynamicCombinedConfiguration

I used that specifically to avoid creating multiple combined configurations since it can be fairly expensive to create them. I looked into the guarantees that ConcurrentMap provides before I implemented that and included the comment since I knew it would catch someone's eye. Ralph On Jul 29

Re: [configuration] Checkstyle warning about double-checked locking in DynamicCombinedConfiguration

On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: > On 30 July 2012 20:34, Oliver Heger wrote: >> Am 29.07.2012 22:41, schrieb Ralph Goers: >> >>> I used that specifically to avoid creating multiple combined >>> configurations since it can be fairly expensive to cr

Re: [configuration] Checkstyle warning about double-checked locking in DynamicCombinedConfiguration

On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:17 PM, sebb wrote: > On 30 July 2012 22:13, Ralph Goers wrote: >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: >> >>> On 30 July 2012 20:34, Oliver Heger wrote: >>>> Am 29.07.2012 22:41, schrieb Ralph Goers: >>>> >

Commons web site

Infra has mandated that all projects move to the Apache CMS (or svnpubsub) by the end of the year. We also must change from distributing releases from people.apache.org to https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/commons. Changing the second item is fairly trivial but migrating the web site is a pret

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Configuration 1.9 based on RC 1

I don't think that is serious enough to warrant another candidate. I plan to review RC1 later today. Ralph On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > If you change the POM and you want that to be part of the release then > you need another RC. In this case, you want a cleaner Clirr repo

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Configuration 1.9 based on RC 1

Yes - and I didn't get a chance to do it last night. Please give me another 24 hrs. Ralph On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Oops I meant Ralph not Sebb! > > Gary > > On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:38, Oliver Heger wrote: > >> Am 19.08.2012 20:00, sch

Re: [all] displaying some class and sequence diagrams for our components

I use http://www.websequencediagrams.com/ for most of my sequence diagrams. It won't do other UML diagrams but the sequence diagrams are incredibly easy to do. It is also possible to just embed links to their service with your diagram text in the web site. Ralph On Aug 20, 2012, at 5:27 AM

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Configuration 1.9 based on RC 1

With Phil's +1 you should now have the 3 +1s. I still haven't been able to look at it so go ahead. Ralph On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 8/16/12 1:09 PM, Oliver Heger wrote: >> This is a vote to release Apache Commons Configuration 1.9 based >> on the first release candid

Re: [vfs] dependencies update to new versions & etc.

I will second what others have said. There really is no way to effectively review an 800k patch. If it is that big largely because it is including a jackrabbit jar directly into the project I would probably not be in favor of that. I am not a fan of directly including project A's jars directl

Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site

Actually, I am not sure that the full listing of the components on the main page even needs to be there. If you click on "components" in the left nav you get pretty much the same thing. So I would prefer to see a much shorter section on Commons Proper, perhaps with the same link in that text.

Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site

On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Ralph! > >> Actually, I am not sure that the full listing of the components on the main >> page even needs to be there. If you click on "components" in the left nav >> you get pretty much the same thing. So I would prefer to see a much

Re: [configuration] Plan for 2.0

If you are going to break compatibility the package names need to be changed. I really dislike CombinedConfiguration. Having the combined nodes point into other configuration nodes makes reloading fragile which is why it now copies nodes. This means that a DynamicCombinedConfiguration that has

Re: [configuration] Should we remove list splitting for attributes in XMLConfiguration?

No objection. I believe this was done because of the way lists are done in property files - a comma separated list of values on a single property. In XML you would just have multiple instances of the element, each with its own value. This is one of the reasons why having the "flat" configurat

Re: [all] xdoc vs. apt

I did the whole Flume web site in Sphinx - http://flume.apache.org. It works great for documentation but isn't really designed to build a web site - although you can. The Maven plugin has a few gotchas at the moment: 1 - it has a bug that causes it to use a lot of memory on multi-module bu

Re: [configuration] Refactoring FileConfiguration

I second Joerg's statement. Ralph On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Oliver Heger wrote: > >> One of the pain points in the 1.x versions of [configuration] is IMHO >> the implementation of FileConfiguration using inheritance over >> AbstractFileConfiguration and AbstractHierarc

Re: svn commit: r1403346 - /commons/proper/vfs/trunk/core/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/vfs2/provider/ftps/FtpsClientFactory.java

Gary, What are you using to validate checkstyle? checkstyle.xml says the max line length is 120 yet your log message says it is 150. Ralph On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:06 AM, ggreg...@apache.org wrote: > Author: ggregory > Date: Mon Oct 29 15:06:48 2012 > New Revision: 1403346 > > URL: http://svn.a

[VFS] Unit test failure

I haven't run the build in a while but I don't recall ever seeing this before. Running org.apache.commons.vfs2.provider.ram.test.RamProviderTestCase Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 3.229 sec <<< FAILURE! junit.framework.TestSuite@77c7bee2(org.apache.commons.vfs2.te

Re: [VFS] Unit test failure

Nope. Mac OS/X Lion Ralph On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > I've never seen that one! I am on Windows. Are you on Linux? > > Gary > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> I haven't run t

Re: [VFS] Unit test failure

ead from >> >> "file:///Users/jcarman/IdeaProjects/commons-vfs/core/target/test-classes/test-data/write-tests/file1.txt" >> because it is a not a file.". >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> Nop

Re: [all] moving to svnpubsub or CMS?

On Nov 14, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> 2012/11/14 Thomas Vandahl : >>> On 14.11.2012 08:40, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Please, could someone who knows what to do step up? >>> >>> >>> Just a quick note that sites created

Re: Moving to svnpubsub for dist releases

Actually, if you use the Release plugin the artifacts will be uploaded to the staging repository. At least that is what VFS does. They can be voted on there and then checked into SVN. You can easily verify they didn't change because the MD5s go along with them. Ralph On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:41

Re: Moving to svnpubsub for dist releases

some sort of formal linking once the artifacts are published escapes me. Ralph On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:23 AM, sebb wrote: > On 26 November 2012 17:01, Ralph Goers wrote: >> Actually, if you use the Release plugin the artifacts will be uploaded to >> the staging repository. At le

Re: Moving to svnpubsub for dist releases

On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:55:14AM +, sebb wrote: >> On 26 November 2012 17:41, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> Traceability by who? >>> >>> PMC members can easily verify that what is committed to dist matche

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

>>>> Commons is surely a LOT of work. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to suggest we act immediately. >>>>> >>>>> In other terms: let us request a commons-test cms where we can try things >>>>> out and prepare the new si

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

site in the CMS. Are all the sub-sites built with Maven? Any that are not could move to the CMS as part of the main site. Ralph On Dec 10, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 12/10/12 7:55 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> That is what we did in logging. Changing it at the end is fa

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

damental? > > Matt > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> On 12/10/12 11:40 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: >>> On 12/10/12 10:50 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>> All the sub-sites are hooked off the main site. I would have no idea >&

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:12 PM, sebb wrote: > On 10 December 2012 21:53, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 12/10/12 1:27 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> Yes, I think you are missing something fundamental. >>> >>> If you check in "the whole mess" you will ne

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

At the very least, someone should file a Jira asking for a commons-test site. Ralph On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 12/10/12 5:10 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:12 PM, sebb wrote: >> >>> On 10 December 2012 21:53, Phil Steitz wrot

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

lles Sadowski < >>>>>>> gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:12:31PM -0600, Matt Benson wrote: >>>>>>>>> I&#x

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

And now I'm even more confused since I just saw your commits to build the CMS site using Maven. Ralph On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > So now I'm confused. You are proposing to bypass the CMS altogether and only > publish to the live site. Why? Even pro

Re: [vfs] How can find the maven repository of commons-vfs , and how can develope the filesystem protocol for myself?

On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:08 PM, yeyz wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I delivered one post about vfs without detail title, getting no > reply. So I want to ask the same question again. Thks! > > I am a new comer to apache vfs. But when I import the vfs project > to eclipse through maven,

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

eate a file for type >>>> org.apache.commons.digester3.annotations.processor.GeneratedRulesModule >>>> [ERROR] error: Impossible to generate class >>>> org.apache.commons.digester3.annotations.processor.GeneratedRulesModule: >>>> Attempt to recreate a fi

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 18, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >> I still don't understand why you are committing the subprojects to svn. >> That is not required. Just use stage-deploy to deploy to a local directory >> on your computer, then copy tha

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

avoids the duplication that is created by > storing the generated content directly in mainrepo when it would only be > copied out anyway? Do I finally grasp the intent of expaths.txt? > > Matt > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >&

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >> >> On Dec 18, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>> 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >>>> I still don't understand why you are committing the subprojects to svn. &g

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >> >> On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>> 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >>>> >>>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>>&g

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> > Maybe could be simpler with committing your staged versionned site to > log4j2-xxx (tru the maven plugin) for review and then modifying > .htaccess file (too prevent huge checkout on your machine and to > modify a symlink this probably won't

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >> >> On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>>> >>> Maybe could be simpler with committing your staged versionned site to >>> log4j2-xxx (

Re: [VFS] WAS: [GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-vfs2-test (in module apache-commons) failed

Can you have the test check for a supported environment and exit if it is not? Ralph On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > The new HDFS provider only works on Linux and it works for me on Ubuntu > (via VirtualBox on Win7). How can Gump be fixed? > > Gary > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 201

Re: [configuration] Design discussion

Sure - But as I've worked with CombinedConfiguration I became less enthralled with it. The problem I had with the DynamicCombinedConfiguration was that every CombinedConfiguration has to have its own copy of all the configurations. Attempting to share a configuration led to all kinds of corrupt

Re: CMS/SvnPubSub for site live ?

I can't see the source for the site. I am assuming that the "proper" subdirectory is in extpaths.txt? The only thing I don't like is that when looking at proper it appears that each subproject has its own directory. I would prefer (and recommend) that instead of being a single directory for e

Re: CMS/SvnPubSub for site live ?

On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/cms-site/trunk/ > Agree for mapping proper/commons-attributes -> proper/commons-attributes-2.2 > Why not with modifying .htaccess ? > (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/cms-site/trunk/content/resourc

Re: [vfs] New feature request: configurable socket timeout for HTTP and WebDAV in VFS

Yup. I have no idea why I said that. While you can certainly pass the options HttpClientFactory wouldn't do anything with them. Ralph On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > I found this entry in JIRA: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VFS-249 > > Actually it is not tru

Re: [All] New repo for all proper components as submodules?

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > My target use case here is: I want an easy way to work on all of Commons in > a new VM or a new machine, so I'd like to be able to check out all of > Commons in one go from any level for example here is an imaginary git > submodule tree: >

Re: [All] New repo for all proper components as submodules?

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > >> On Aug 31, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> >> My target use case here is: I want an easy way to work on all of Commons in >> a new VM or a new machine, so I'd like to be able to c

Re: [All] New repo for all proper components as submodules?

As I said previously, I would avoid using either one. I really don’t know why you would want to with Java. I can understand it with applications written in C where you might want to compile all the dependencies along with the main application. But that isn’t the case in Java. Introducing subtre

Re: [All] New repo for all proper components as submodules?

Why? > On Sep 1, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > It could be useful for grouping inter-dependent modules like pool/dbcp. > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 21:46 Ralph Goers wrote: > >> As I said previously, I would avoid using either one. I really don’t know >&

Re: No more dependabot

I am not sure that is possible since Dependabot is actually creating PRs and GitHub sends those to the mailing list. What I heard was that they would like to have Dependabot just send reports from time to time about what dependencies could be changed rather than create PRs. Matt also mentioned

Re: Unapproved license

To get even more specific, That message is usually generated by the Maven RAT plugin. RAT is an Apache tool to verify that our projects have an appropriate license header. A file should have been generated in the “target” directory named rat.txt that lists the files without an appropriate licens

Re: [Vote] Create a "machine learning" component

-1 on commons-ml as the name. My first thought is such a repo would hold stuff related to mailing lists. Then again maybe it contains stuff relating to markup languages. Maybe it is Apache’s version of the ML Programming Language [1]. However, I wouldn’t be -1 on commons-math-ml, although at bes

Re: [exec][email] Java 7 to 8

We just concluded this same discussion for Log4j. I looked at the JRebel 2021 report [1] to gauge the number of people using a particular Java version. Respondents were able to select multiple versions so the numbers don’t add up to 100%. Java 7 or older.15% Java 8 69% Java

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

FYI - I did the work of moving Logging Services site from the CMS to git. It really wasn’t that hard. The main web site is at https://github.com/apache/logging-site . Each of the subproject has their own site such as https://github.com/apache/logging-log

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

tures > On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:48 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 19:39, Ralph Goers wrote: >> >> FYI - I did the work of moving Logging Services site from the CMS to git. It >> really wasn’t that hard. The main web site is at >> https://git

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

You should see my other message but I will reply to your questions also. > On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hello. > > Le ven. 16 avr. 2021 à 20:39, Ralph Goers a > écrit : >> >> FYI - I did the work of moving Logging Services site from

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

One other think I should add. Although Infra’s pages mention tools that you can use those are just suggestions. As long as you use the .asf.yaml files and place the files in the correct locations in the repos you can use any tooling you want to create the sites. I used JBake because I felt it wa

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 3:32 PM, sebb wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 22:57, Ralph Goers <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >> >> >> When I release Log4j I rum mvn site followed by "mvn site:stage >> -DstagingDirectory=$HOME/log4j” on

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 6:38 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 at 13:40, Gary Gregory wrote: >> >> Note that git also has its gitlink and sub modules features that we could >> use here. > > Are they easy to use? Submodules are documented at https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Sub

Re: [Vote] Create a "machine learning" component

ce with the >>> "clustering" package mentioned above, I'd tend to think >>> (unfortunately) >>> that it isn't. He should first explore whether the Spark community >>> is >>> interested, that the GA functionality be moved over there

Re: [Vote] Create a "machine learning" component

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 2:25 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le mer. 21 avr. 2021 à 08:56, Paul King a écrit : >> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 4:12 PM Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> >>> Why are y’all having a long discussion on Vote thread? > > P

Re: [Vote] Create repository for "machine learning" algorithms.

+0 I am fine with the proposal but I won’t be contributing to it or helping to maintain it so I am hesitant to vote +1. Ralph > On Apr 21, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hi. > > [This a reboot of the proposal for which the preceding vote > has just been cancelled.] > > Name o

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

e easier to use? >>> There's no point changing the publication strategy if it is not an >>> improvement. >> >> Quoting Ralph Goers: >> ---CUT--- >> When I release Log4j I rum mvn site followed by "mvn site:stage >> -DstagingDirectory=$HOME/log

Re: The case for a Commons component

How many committers will be active for this component? Ralph > On Apr 26, 2021, at 7:17 AM, Avijit Basak wrote: > > Hi > >As per previous discussions, I have created a temporary repository > in GitHub under my personal GitHub Id(avijitbasak). The artifacts have been > copied from commo

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

> On Apr 27, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le mar. 27 avr. 2021 à 12:32, sebb > a écrit : >> >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 02:10, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >>> >> [...] > > OK to create the >commons-site > "git" repository? >>>

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 3:58 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > >> There's no point converting to Git if that process is more involved >> than the existing process. > > I'm not sure that we mean the same with "the existing process". > Earlier in the thread, I've described what I do: > > $ mvn sit

Re: Redesign of Commons website generation (was: CMS Deprecated. Removal of configs and move to new publishing area)

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 4:49 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> >> Le jeu. 29 avr. 2021 à 01:45, sebb a écrit : >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 00:10, Gilles Sadowski wrote: It occurs to me that we *should* create a specific "git" repositor

[Discuss][Vote] Create repository for "machine learning" algorithms.

How long is this vote going to stay open? This vote has already been open for 12 days. To this point we have Sebb - no actual vote but somewhere between 0 and -1. (Binding) Ralph - +0 (Binding) Emmanuel: -1 (Binding) Paul King: +1 (Non-Binding) Gilles: + 1 (Binding) Arijit: +1 (Non-Binding) So

Re: The case for a Commons component

ize the [Vote] before getting into the > details... > > Currently, there have been votes by: > Emmanuel Bourg (-1) > Sebastian Bazley (-0) > Ralph Goers (+0) > Paul King (+1) > > So currently, the discussion should be focused on settling to the > issues put forward

Re: The case for a Commons component

> On May 5, 2021, at 6:38 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le mar. 4 mai 2021 à 02:49, Ralph Goers a écrit : >> >> I apologize. I started another thread regarding the vote before seeing this. > > No problem. > >> Maybe that will get more attention? &g

Re: The case for a Commons component

> On May 5, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le mer. 5 mai 2021 à 17:44, Ralph Goers a écrit : >> >> >> >>> On May 5, 2021, at 6:38 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >>> >>> Le mar. 4 mai 2021 à 02:49, Ralph Goers a >&g

Re: The case for a Commons component

> On May 6, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > What about the Commons Sandox? Would that be a good place to start? > Emmanuel just sort of proposed doing away with it. As he put it, anyone can create a GitHub repo so why does it need to be under the apache user. He hasn’t formally

Re: The case for a Commons component

> On May 6, 2021, at 3:04 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> >> It looks like you didn’t read the page. > > I did, of course. And my interpretation differs. > >> For clarity I am copying it here >> >> "Votes on procedural issues follow the common format of majority rule unless >> >> otherwise st

Re: [math] working on increasing performance for Math3

> On May 8, 2021, at 5:14 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hello. > > Le sam. 8 mai 2021 à 08:42, Benjamin Marwell > a écrit : >> >> Instead of using byte buddy, why not just maven multi release jars? *1 > > Thanks for the suggestion. > Again, I don't know how to d

Re: The case for a Commons component

gt;> >>> >>> There is no need for a Sandbox component to use SVN, and it's easy to >>> create a new Commons git repo. >>> >>> A non-ASF code repo would require code to be checked for license >>> compliance etc before it could become a C

Re: [REPORT][DRAFT] Apache Commons Board report for June 2021

> On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le dim. 6 juin 2021 à 14:54, Gary Gregory a écrit : >> >> Here is the draft I plan on submitting: >> >> ## Description: >> The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java focused >> reusable libraries and compon

Re: [EXTERNAL] [Numbers][All] Separate Java target version for "src/test"

I don’t understand this. Log4j2 was one of the first adopters of multi-release jars. There were problems in the beginning but those have virtually all been resolved. We haven’t had any complaints in ages. Log4j 2 2.14.1 supports Java 8. Fully supporting JPMS (i.e. - adding a module-info.java

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

ServliceLoader is used to locate plugins but what is loaded by ServiceLoader are not plugins. Log4j Plugins are categorized into different groupings, primarily by where and how the plugins are used. For example, PatternConverters used by the PatternLayout are separate from Appenders, Filters

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

I don’t think so. Commons Configuration (which I was working actively on when I started writing Log4j 2) is designed to provide access to the configuration data. The plugin system is design to convert configuration data into instantiated objects. I could easily see Commons Configuration being

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

Matt J, I fully expect that if commons-plugins came into fruition it would bear a resemblance to the Log4j plugin system but there would be differences. For example, while Log4j integrates with Spring we don’t currently support having the logging configuration in application.yml. I also susp

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

ote: > > Nice thread :-) > > Where does the parsing of configuration files mix in such a stack? > > Where does variable interpolation come into play? > > Gary > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2022, 20:50 Ralph Goers wrote: > >> Matt J, >> >> I fully expect that

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

It has been too long since I looked at Commons Configuration for me to answer that. Ralph > On Apr 3, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > So in a Commons centric fantasy, Log4j Nodes could be Commons Configuration > objects? > > G > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2022,

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

tput of a Commons Plugins >> that Log4j would use. >> >> Gary >> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:51 PM Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> >>> It has been too long since I looked at Commons Configuration for me to >>> answer that. >>>

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

dea, even OSGI... >> >> Gary Gregory 于2022年4月4日周一 21:11写道： >> >>> I am trying to figure out the input and output of a Commons Plugins >>> that Log4j would use. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:51 PM Ralph Go

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

If I had known this was going to turn into a debate I wouldn’t have responded to the question. But it seems either my response wasn’t clear, you did not understand what I wrote, or you have some preconceived notion as to why anything beyond ServiceLoader is needed. I would suggest that before r

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 2:52 AM, Peter Verhas wrote: > > >> I would suggest that before responding to this email that >> you go look at how log4j-plugins is implemented in the master branch. >> > > Sure, if you propose to create a commons-plugin library that is an extract > of the plugin handl

Re: New component proposal: commons-foo or better commons-text

The Log4j variation used StrSubstitutor straight from Commons (wherever it was located at the time) but then had to modify some of the methods to accept LogEvents. To do this StringSubstitutor would have to be modified to be StringSubstitutor and allow an object of type T to be passed to the re

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

See below > On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Peter Verhas wrote: > > Thanks Ralph for the detailed explanation. I appreciate it and now I see > the points. I’ve removed the parts that I don’t think need any more discussion. > - How will it be a “plugin" project and not another dependency injection

Re: New component proposal: commons-plugins

> On Apr 12, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Thomas wrote: > > > On 11.04.2022 00:00, Ralph Goers wrote: >> See below >> >>> On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Peter Verhas wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Ralph for the detailed explanation. I appreciate it and now I s

Re: [ALL] Eventually, soon, Java 11

The primary reason for moving to Java 11 is to fully support JPMS. Most libraries have added an automatic module name to the Manifest but that doesn’t really make it fully JPMS enabled. To be honest, the number of people I’ve seen asking for full JPMS support is quite small though. Ralph >

Re: [LOGGING] 2.0

> On Feb 13, 2024, at 3:39 AM, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > > If such a thing is even possible, it would be nice if we can get > `jakarta.logging` as the package prefix. Creating a Jakarta logging would certainly be possible. I am not certain if that follows the JCP process though since Jakart

Re: svn commit: r1658276 - in /commons/proper/csv/trunk: pom.xml src/test/java/org/apache/commons/csv/CSVBenchmark.java

JMH is a tool used during the build. The source code for the product does not depend on it. See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited . Ralph > On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:23 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > 2015-02-09 2:40 GMT+01:

[lang] Re: releasing maintenance 2.2.1

Although it may be on the wrong list it probably is a good question for the git discussion regarding commons lang. When Log4j 2 switched to git we didn’t have all the details for doing a release worked out. It turned out it wasn’t too much different than what we were doing with SVN, especially

Re: [DISCUSS] Rotate PMC Chair

I am perfectly happy to let Gary do it for another year. Ralph > On Mar 31, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am happy to continue to server our community and I am grateful for the > opportunity. I am also happy to let someone else step in. > > Gary > > On Mon, Mar 3

Re: Missing release on reporter.a.o

11, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > I do not know much about it but Ralph Goers just fixed Log4j for us in this > dept. You may want to ask him (on the log4j dev ML?) > > Gary > > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter > wrote: > >> If you&#

Re: Missing release on reporter.a.o

I did it myself. Ralph > On May 11, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > Hello Ralph, > > 2015-05-12 7:34 GMT+02:00 Ralph Goers <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>>: > >> It would seem that for each commons subproject you need to add the Jira >

Re: Missing release on reporter.a.o

I did the same thing in log4j - I added stuff with no prefix originally. I have no idea how to remove that. Ralph > On May 12, 2015, at 6:38 AM, James Carman wrote: > > In case anyone comes across it, I was playing around and added Math twice, > using two different prefixes (thinking it wouldn

Re: [Math] Utilitzation of SLF4J?

I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my nose in here. 1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether you need logging at all before discussing what to choose. 2. If you do decide logging is required: a. Please stay away from java.util.logging. It really would

Re: [Math] Utilitzation of SLF4J?

>> Le 26 sept. 2015 12:07, "Luc Maisonobe" a écrit : >>> >>> Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit : >>>> I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my >> nose in here. >>>> 1. You are absolutely correct

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