Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:19:22PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:03:28AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 09:17:17PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Remaining concerns: > > > > - each of these dbg packages requires manual modification to the

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-05 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Russ Allbery writes: >> Am I right in thinking that the ‘get-orig-source’ target should ignore >> the version strings in ‘debian/changelog’, and should instead get >> whatever version is the latest available from upstream? > > I think the way that you're using it is more useful (and possible) tha

Re: Bug#517945: ITP: libxray-absorption-perl -- x-ray absorption data for the elements

2009-03-05 Thread Carlo Segre
Hi Andreas: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Carlo Segre wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carlo Segre * Package name: libxray-absorption-perl Version : 2.0.1 Upstream Author : Bruce Ravel * URL : http://cars9.uchicago.ed

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > With rpm there's no such problem, as a separate debug package is > created automatically. I just have to keep it somewhere. That is exactly the plan for debug.debian.net. IMO it needs to sidestep dh_strip though, since debhelper isn't manda

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 10:25:06PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 10:12:22PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > > I'm looking at my local mirror (slowly) update at the moment, and I've > > got to wondering: are the large -dbg packages actually really useful > > to anybody? I

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno writes: > Compressing -dbg files using dh_builddeb -Zlzma, which uses lzma > compression instead of gzip, gives an average gain of 1.88 in size for > the current -dbg packages we have in sid. Compressing with bzip2 is already supported by DAK and might help almost as much. (I rea

Re: Bug#419209: lvm2: Hangs during snapshot creation

2009-03-05 Thread Bastian Blank
severity 419209 important thanks On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:44:28AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > first of all, I raised the severity of the bug to critical as it makes > the whole system break. lvm2 manages blockdevices via the device-mapper framework, so it manages the system. It is the purpose

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-05 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Mar 05 17:23, Russell Coker wrote: > PS What contributions are you making to any free software projects? Please > note that trolling this mailing list doesn't count as a contribution. I think you're being a little harsh Russell, but you're right Bell, I don't think anyone anywhere di

Re: Bug#419209: lvm2: Hangs during snapshot creation

2009-03-05 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Do den 5. Mär 2009 um 8:46 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > the whole system break. Also I add debian-devel to Cc as the bug is very > > problematic and I wonder how lvm2 was able to get into lenny with that > > big problem! > > Possibly because the

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Reinhard Tartler writes: > Russ Allbery writes: > > > I think the way that you're using it is more useful (and possible) > > than doing what an exact reading of the current text would > > indicate, and I do the same thing that you're doing. > > FYI, from the ffmpeg-debian (and soon mplayer) pa

Re: Bug#419209: lvm2: Hangs during snapshot creation

2009-03-05 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Do den 5. Mär 2009 um 9:48 schrieb Bastian Blank: > severity 419209 important It is critical as it breaks the whole system! I do not want to start a severity war with you but please do not set the severity to wrong level. It do not fix the bug

Re: Bug#419209: lvm2: Hangs during snapshot creation

2009-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:45:24AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Am Do den 5. Mär 2009 um 9:48 schrieb Bastian Blank: > > severity 419209 important > > It is critical as it breaks the whole system! I do not want to start a > severity war with you but please do not set the severity to wrong level.

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 05:35:53PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > With rpm there's no such problem, as a separate debug package is > > created automatically. I just have to keep it somewhere. > > That is exactly the plan for debug.debian.net.

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Re: Installing accessibility packages by default?

2009-03-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Samuel Thibault (samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org): > So, I'm asking: would it seem reasonable to ask tasksel to install > accessibility packages along desktop packages? > > I have tried to install Lenny with a gnome desktop, I ended up with > 2.3GB disk usage. Adding gnome-accessibility and

Re: Installing accessibility packages by default?

2009-03-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: It has been suggested a few times (471410, 511329, 516723) to add an "accessibility" item to tasksel, which would e.g. install gnome-accessibility. The task would be automatically selected when accessibility features was used during d-i itself. I won

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:39:50PM +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : > > I've proposed a patch to policy (in bug#466550) to bring policy in > line with this practice. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=466550#42 - This target is optional, but providing it if

Bug#518343: ITP: talk2nxt -- upload/download files from or to LEGO Mindstroms NXT

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: talk2nxt Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Pascal Raymond * URL : http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~raymond/edu/lego/t2n/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: C++ Description : upload/dow

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-05 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Thu Mar 05 17:23, Russell Coker wrote: PS What contributions are you making to any free software projects? Please note that trolling this mailing list doesn't count as a contribution. I think you're being a little harsh Russell, but you're righ

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:43:43AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Aurelien Jarno writes: > > > Compressing -dbg files using dh_builddeb -Zlzma, which uses lzma > > compression instead of gzip, gives an average gain of 1.88 in size for > > the current -dbg packages we have in sid. > > Compressing w

Re: Requirement for a “pro per manpage” for every command

2009-03-05 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Charles Plessy [Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:23:37 +0900]: > Le Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:10:09AM +, Roger Leigh a écrit : > > crap maintainer > > bloody lazy. > I thought I was doing something good when writing manpages, now I realise what > I am for not writing enough : « responsable de merde putai

Bug#518353: RFP: clam-plugins -- Extension plugins for the CLAM audio framework

2009-03-05 Thread David García Garzón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: clam-plugins Version : 1.3.1~svn Upstream Author : CLAM Team * URL : http://clam-project.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Extension plu

Re: Installing accessibility packages by default?

2009-03-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas Tille, le Thu 05 Mar 2009 13:16:22 +0100, a écrit : > On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >It has been suggested a few times (471410, 511329, 516723) to > >add an "accessibility" item to tasksel, which would e.g. install > >gnome-accessibility. The task would be automatically sele

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno writes: > AFAIK, allowing LZMA in DAK is just a matter of changing one line in > DAK. > Do you have more details about LZMA being deprecated and replaced by XZ? See "current state of the development" at http://tukaani.org/lzma/ and then http://tukaani.org/xz/ and note in particul

Bug#436792: ITP: ganttproject Gantt chart based project

2009-03-05 Thread Kouhei Maeda
Package: wnpp Followup-For: Bug #436792 Owner: Kouhei Maeda I use this tool on business, then I want to use this tool privately on Debian. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-03-05 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 06:12:54PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Using things like pam_console or pam_group should not become our default policy, unless we at least ensure /home, /var and /tmp are mounted nosuid – and it would be better with the ability to revoke the permissions on the open devi

Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, as announced earlier during the lenny dev cycle, I would like to switch to the new source package formats ("3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)") during the squeeze cycle so that we can benefit from the numerous improvements. For this kind of important change, it's best to start early in the rel

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, Hi > as announced earlier during the lenny dev cycle, I would like to switch to > the new source package formats ("3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)") during > the squeeze cycle so that we can benefit from the numerous improvements. > For this kind of important change

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > All in all, things are in a rather good shape but I still need some > help. While I tested extensively the dpkg-source side, we still need to > ensure that all our additional tools cope well with the new source > package format (*-buildpackage, apt-get source, lintian,

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Всеволод Величко
Hello. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > as announced earlier during the lenny dev cycle, I would like to switch to > the new source package formats ("3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)") during > the squeeze cycle so that we can benefit from the numerous improvements. Excuse

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Daniel Moerner
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Всеволод Величко wrote: > Hello. > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> as announced earlier during the lenny dev cycle, I would like to switch to >> the new source package formats ("3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)") during >> the squeeze cyc

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:19:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > as announced earlier during the lenny dev cycle, I would like to switch to > the new source package formats ("3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)") during > the squeeze cycle so that we can benefit from the numerous improvements. > For t

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > All in all, things are in a rather good shape but I still need some help. > While I tested extensively the dpkg-source side, we still need to ensure > that all our additional tools cope well with the new source package > format (*-buildpackage, apt-get source, lintian,

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
On 05-Mar-2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > at the same time, your patch would make it mandatory to write a > get-orig-source target when uscan(1) can not do the job. […] Can you > soften your wording to the current "optional" status ? Agreed. I also should have used the standard document markup for v

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I will do (thanks to Lucas Nussbaum) another archive rebuild in the > upcoming weeks to see if we have new failures. Hopefully the release team > can grant the status of release goal to this project so that we can more > easily NMU the remaining packages. > Will you do

Bug#518426: ITP: r6rs-doc -- Revised^6 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme

2009-03-05 Thread Daniel Moerner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Moerner Package name: r6rs-doc Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Michael Sperber, et al URL : http://www.r6rs.org/ License : We intend this report to belong to the entire Scheme community,

Prefix level in Quilt patches (was: Support of new source packages in squeeze)

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Biebl writes: > Or how will you rebuild packages with 3.0 (quilt) that already use > dpatch or cdbs with simple-patchsys? (the latter would at least > require to normalize all patches to -p1, […]). The ‘quilt(1)’ manpage documents a ‘-p’ option: -p n Create a -p n style patc

Bug#518430: ITP: libarray-unique-perl Tie-able array that allows only unique values

2009-03-05 Thread Xavier Oswald
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Xavier Oswald * Package name: libarray-unique-perl Version : 0.08-1 Upstream Author : Gabor Szabo * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Array-Unique/ * License : GPL, Artistic Programming Lang: Perl Description :

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches (was: Support of new source packages in squeeze)

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt > patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format? You don't want to use -p0 otherwise you'll get bugs from buxy about not supporting dpkg source package v3. I'm using this to generate my pa

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > > How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt > > patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format? > > You don't want to use -p0 otherwise you'll get bugs from buxy about > not supporting dpkg source package

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ben Finney >> wrote: >> >> > How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt >> > patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format? >> >> You don't want to use -p0 otherwise you'll ge

Bug#518443: ITP: libschedule-ratelimiter-perl -- Perl library to prevent events from happening too quickly

2009-03-05 Thread Ryan Niebur
Package: wnpp Owner: Ryan Niebur Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: libschedule-ratelimiter-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Daniel J. Wright, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Schedule-RateLimiter/ * License

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > My first impression is that, if buxy can't handle a ‘-p0’ patch, > > that's a bug. My apologies, I thought ‘buxy’ was perhaps the name of some service on the Debian project infrastructure. > The reason you cannot use -p0

Work-needing packages report for Mar 6, 2009

2009-03-05 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 388 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 112 (new: 0) Total number of packages request

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009, Michael Biebl wrote: > dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field 'Format' in input data in > general section of control info file > > Should I file a bug against dpkg-dev for that? > > And another minor issue: vim doesn't know about the new Format field in > debian/

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009, Michael Biebl wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > I will do (thanks to Lucas Nussbaum) another archive rebuild in the > > upcoming weeks to see if we have new failures. Hopefully the release team > > can grant the status of release goal to this project so that we can more