Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Dale C. Scheetz wrote: Thus it might be even better to define a policy the following way: 1. Put all XPMs for the use in Debian-Menu into /usr/share/menu/pixmaps 2. Put all PNGs (and others) into /usr/share/pixmaps if they are intended for applications which

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-27 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:18:39 -0500 "Dale C. Scheetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thus it might be even better to define a policy the following way: > > > >1. Put all XPMs for the use in Debian-Menu into > > /usr/share/menu/pixmaps > >2. Put all PNGs (and others) into /usr/share

Re: rebooting, non-root raid, udev

2005-01-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 27, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I know what happens in practise, what is meant to happen in > theory? The kernel is fixed to provide an additional device which can be used to configure new RAID volumes. Kernel people are aware of this, but I have not seen any progress on this

Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist @Bernard, I intend to package swsusp2 for Debian, just letting you know... * Package name: kernel-patch-swsusp2 Version : 2.1.5.15 Upstream Author : Bernard Blackham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de * Licens

Re: Depends: and commands used in maintainer scripts

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
X-Posting to -policy, because this might be a bug in Policy. I'm not subscribed to -policy, please Cc me unless you keep -devel in. Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 11:32:19AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >>> Hi,

Re: advice on a patch set

2005-01-27 Thread Cameron Patrick
martin f krafft wrote: > I am trying to package the swsusp2 kernel patch, which comes in > hundred little files. My thought was to simply concat these files > into one large patch for use with kpatches... however, this does not > work because some files are created by early patches and later > mod

Re: Depends: and commands used in maintainer scripts

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do others also think this is an error in policy? Nobody would object if > I raise severity of such a bug and address it in an NMU (which I'm going > to do for a different RC bug, anyway)? I can answer the second question myself: According to http://releas

Re: acpi vs apm

2005-01-27 Thread Cameron Patrick
Matthew Garrett wrote: > 1) Dealing with network interfaces and the like sensibly - at the > moment, this will often require unloading and reloading modules pre/post > suspend Yup. The hibernate package helps with this and can do quite a bit automatically by way of a "blacklisted modules" mechan

Re: advice on a patch set

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Cameron Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.01.27.1045 +0100]: > Have you considered just using Bernard's apply script that is > included with the upstream swsusp package? I'm pretty sure it > takes care of testing with --dry-run and backing out previous > patches if one of them fails.

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Nelson
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:20:05AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > @Bernard, I intend to package swsusp2 for Debian, just letting you > know... > > * Package name: kernel-patch-swsusp2 > Version : 2.1.5.15 > Upstream Author : Bernard Blackham

Re: rebooting, non-root raid, udev

2005-01-27 Thread Tore Anderson
* Brian May > 4. /etc/init.d/raid2 attempts to initialise the other RAID > partitions but fails to do so because the /dev/md* entries do not > exist. I believe that if you use mdadm to assemble your arrays, and ensure it is passed the --auto parameter, it should work. -- Tore Anderson -

Re: NM queue and groups [Was: NEW queue and ftp-master approval]

2005-01-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:08:27PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > In fact, the parts you have chosen to keep, and respond to, are the far > *less* relevant portions of what I wrote. They existed as a demonstration > only of one reason I consider it important for people to have some > agreement on what

Re: Depends: and commands used in maintainer scripts

2005-01-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 11:32:19AM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: > what is the reason why in the following sentence in Policy: > > , > | The Depends field should also be used if the postinst, prerm or postrm > | scripts require the package to be present in order to run. > ` > > the word "sho

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:36 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, David Pashley wrote: >> > The better fix IS to add an extra line to both incarnations of invoke-rc.d >> > (sysv-rc's and file-rc's) to look under /usr/local/sbin first. > >Make that "lat

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:08:27PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: >> In fact, the parts you have chosen to keep, and respond to, are the far >> *less* relevant portions of what I wrote. They existed as a demonstration >> only of one reason I consider it impo

Re: Release update: kde3.3, upload targets, kernels, infrastructure

2005-01-27 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Henning Makholm in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Huh? I run one machine that is mostly woody but with sarge's libc6 and > a few selected other sarge packages. This seems to work impeccably in > general (I do know where to point my anger at when it doesn't, but in > those casses libc has never been invo

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:36 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, David Pashley wrote: > >> > The better fix IS to add an extra line to both incarnations of > >> > invoke-rc.d > >> > (sysv-rc's and file-rc'

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 01:26:15PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:08:27PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > >> In fact, the parts you have chosen to keep, and respond to, are the far > >> *less* relevant portions of what I wrote.

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:37:05AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:36 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, David Pashley wrote: > > >> > The better fix IS to add a

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050127 13:55]: > All the rational discussion has always been about what constitutes > 'hiding', and the rational conclusion has always been the same: You mean: you never changed your mind? That's probably true, but that doesn't make you to the master of the i

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2005-01-27 Thread Schoppitsch Dieter
Hi, I don't know, if I'm right, but as I'm a Debian-Fan I'd like to contribute software (I wrote) to other. This software is downloadable at: http://web.uta4you.at/shop/ This programs are: Atto - simple, fast and small Line Editor FreeDoc - mind-mapping-program and a plain-text-documentation

Re: your mail

2005-01-27 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Schoppitsch Dieter in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This software is downloadable at: > http://web.uta4you.at/shop/ Hi, if you want to have these programs in Debian, you have to file the proper WNPP wishlist bugs. See [1]. If you want to package them yourself, read the maint-guide [2]. [1] http

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:37:05AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:36 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, David P

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Yes, but they can use diversions when the entire policy-rc.d system has to > be disabled, if need be. Make it a very high priority alternative. It is probably a bad idea to try our luck with diverting an alternative. Still, the rationale

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the rational discussion has always been about what constitutes > 'hiding', I have also read discussion about what we promise not to hide (before our users, and before fellow developers). I didn't get the impression that this discussion wasn't rati

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Steve McIntyre
Andreas Barth wrote: >* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050127 13:55]: >> All the rational discussion has always been about what constitutes >> 'hiding', and the rational conclusion has always been the same: > >You mean: you never changed your mind? That's probably true, but that >doesn't make

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.01.27.1301 +0100]: > Isn't Nigel Cunningham the primary author? Apparently. I have had a hard time to find this information on the webpage... therefore I took a guess. I seems that Nigel is the author and Bernard the webmaster. I have written to b

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 11:24:01AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > However, if invoke-rc.d searches /usr/local/sbin/policy-rc.d first, this > whole safety net is disabled. One could argue that the local admin explicitly requested to have that net disabled. > So invoke-rc.d could be ch

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 11:24:01AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > However, if invoke-rc.d searches /usr/local/sbin/policy-rc.d first, this > > whole safety net is disabled. > > One could argue that the local admin explicitly requested to have

Re: Buildd howto

2005-01-27 Thread Soumyadip Modak
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 20:16 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi Soumyadip, > > On Thursday, 27 Jan 2005, Soumyadip Modak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However I couldn't find any documentation on how to setup buildds. Can > > anyone please provide pointers > > http://www.debian.org/devel/build

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, well, tough luck for him. That said, he can take over the > package when he's a DD. I need it now, but I don't insist on > maintaining it. I'm curious - what functionality do you need that isn't present in the stock kernel? -- Matthew Garrett |

Re: Buildd howto

2005-01-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Soumyadip Modak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 20:16 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: >> Hi Soumyadip, >> >> On Thursday, 27 Jan 2005, Soumyadip Modak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > However I couldn't find any documentation on how to setup buildds. Can >> > anyone please pro

Re: Release update: kde3.3, upload targets, kernels, infrastructure

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Henning Makholm in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Huh? I run one machine that is mostly woody but with sarge's libc6 and > > a few selected other sarge packages. This seems to work impeccably in > > general (I do know where to point my

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.01.27.1613 +0100]: > > Okay, well, tough luck for him. That said, he can take over the > > package when he's a DD. I need it now, but I don't insist on > > maintaining it. > > I'm curious - what functionality do you need that isn't present in t

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread Bernard Blackham
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 02:43:30PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > Also, Bernard is in the NM queue, though he's been on hold for > > quite a while... > > Okay, well, tough luck for him. That said, he can take over the > package when he's a DD. I need it now, but I don't insist on > maintaining

Re: Bug#292479: ITP: kernel-patch-swsusp2 -- software suspend 2 for linux kernel patch

2005-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bernard Blackham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.01.27.1642 +0100]: > WRT me in the NM queue, I expected I'd been purged due to my > inactivity, but it seems not! If you're not keen on maintaining it > forever, I could continue on the NM process and pick it up at some > point later. You can

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-27 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 16:02 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Romain Francoise wrote: > > And Debian wouldn't be fun without a few enmities, we wouldn't have great > > posts like http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/07/msg01308.html or > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2001/12/msg0

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:09:11PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Remove the package providing it. That might be a non-option. Greetins Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailad

Re: hwcap supporting architectures?

2005-01-27 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> BTW: I wonder why hwcap decisions are not cached in the ld.so.cache? > > Why don't you check /etc/ld.so.cache? Hint: > "strings /etc/ld.so.cache | grep /lib/tls" on i686. I know it places the libs in the cache, but it is still doing all the stats, wh

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Wed, Jan 26, 2005: > > > It is already linked from deveopers reference. > > It would be nice to have a package for this guide, for example to > request fixes and to make something official out of it. > > The author seems to be Junichi Uekawa, dancer at

Re: Buildd howto

2005-01-27 Thread Soumyadip Modak
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:31 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The only thing you need is a mail account. Running a buildd with a > dynamic IP or behind NAT is no problem. > > MfG > Goswin Hey that's good ! Thanks for the tip. :) -- Soumyadip Modak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

Looking for a Korean native speaker for a few translation updates

2005-01-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello, fellow Debian developers and users, The Korean translation of Debian in general, and especially the Debian Installer, has been made up to now mostly by Changwoo Ryu, one of the few DD's in Korea. I'm however without news from him for several weeks now and we have, for D-I and "related" pac

Bug#292535: ITP: haskell-http -- Haskell HTTP client library

2005-01-27 Thread Ganesh Sittampalam
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2005-01-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: haskell-http Version : 0.4.20041219 Upstream Author : Bjorn Bringert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.bringert.net/haskell-xml-rpc/http.html * License : BSD Description

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering that enough people seem to be feeling the > itch for libpkg-guide package, and since I would > consider using the BTS etc. for revision management > of libpkg-guide, I might go around packaging it as a > Debian package. > > > Any objections?

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2005-01-27 Thread Noreen Locke
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Bug#292546: ITP: ps2client -- ps2client is a command line interface to intereact with ps2link/ps2netfs on Playstation 2 systems equiped with Network Adaptors. it allows you to manage binaries, upload and run homebrew apps on the Playstation 2, and manage ps2netfs moutning, unmounting, copying from/to devices on the Playstation 2 (ie: memcard). Copyright 2004 Dan Peori , under the BSD License. http://ps2dev.org/kb.x?T=985

2005-01-27 Thread Jose de Paula Eufrasio Junior
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jose de Paula Eufrasio Junior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ps2client Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Dan Peori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ps2dev.org/kb.x?T=985 * License : BSD Description : ps2clien

Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-27 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 09:45:07AM +, David Pashley wrote: > Could it be used to manage items other than pizzas? If so you might want > to mention that it could be adapted for all types of fast food. ...for all types of take-away food. Don't try to call pizza a "fast food". Never, ever aga

Bug#292559: ITP: mcelog -- tool to collect and decode Machine Check Exception on x86-64 machines

2005-01-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: mcelog Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : ftp://ftp.x86-64.org/pub/linux/tools/mcelog * License : GPL v2 Description : tool to co

Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-27 Thread John Hasler
Enrico Zini writes: > And if there is cheese inside the border, that's not pizza: refuse to pay > and move to another restaurant! > And "Pizza ai peperoni" is pizza with peppers, not with hot sausage! Words with similar spelling often have different meanings in different languages. Such is the c

Bug#292572: ITP: praat -- program for speech analysis and synthesis

2005-01-27 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: praat Version : 4.3 Upstream Author : Paul Boersma and David Weenink * URL : http://www.praat.org/ * License : GPL (with one exception, see below) Description : program for speech analysis and synthesis Ac

my behaviour

2005-01-27 Thread SR, ESC
i apologise for any offense i made have caused anyone, and i apologise for my behaviour, but i cannot apologise for what i perceive as a problem, that being the unfriendliness to outsiders, and that it's sometimes difficult to get change happening. the latter isn't up to me anyway, all i can do

Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Jan-05, 15:59 (CST), John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Enrico Zini writes: > > And if there is cheese inside the border, that's not pizza: refuse to pay > > and move to another restaurant! > > > And "Pizza ai peperoni" is pizza with peppers, not with hot sausage! > > Words with simi

Re: Bug#292572: ITP: praat -- program for speech analysis and synthesis

2005-01-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Copyright (C) 1993 Summer Institute of Linguistics You lose; SIL's annoying that way. :-/ I'd suggest trying to sub in a free font. I once mapped the SIL "Sophia" IPA font to Unicode; here's the chart I came up with, which perhaps also applies

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-27 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Junichi Uekawa writes, > Considering that enough people seem to be feeling the > itch for libpkg-guide package, and since I would > consider using the BTS etc. for revision management > of libpkg-guide, I might go around packaging it as a > Debian package. I had meant politely to ask you to pack

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 07:37:18PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > IIRC there were some people who objected to some of the contents of > the document. But even for those it is probably better to have a > Debian package - if it's important, the discussion will take place in > bug reports, instead

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-27 Thread Dale C. Scheetz
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:52:48 +0100 Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:18:39 -0500 > "Dale C. Scheetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thus it might be even better to define a policy the following way: > > > > > >1. Put all XPMs for the use in Debian-Menu into

Re: Bug#292299: ITP: policyrcd -- policy-compliant interface from invoke-rc.d to local config files

2005-01-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:09:11PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Remove the package providing it. > > That might be a non-option. Only if there is a rather bad bug in the package. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. On

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-27 Thread James A. Treacy
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 09:52:48AM +0100, Tim Dijkstra wrote: > I think the point is we don't want to be stuck we xpm till eternity. > Especially because we have window/desktop managers that support better > formats like png or svg for example and programs supplying them. svg icons are already a r

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> I haven't read the document in question in a rather long time, so I > can't actually object (on some sort of serious basis, I mean), but I > would nevertheless request that the document be handed to the -english > mailing list for proofreading *before* it's uploaded as a package and > that