hi Curtis, It is possible to let jaws read the message when you open it.
Do the following: Open a message. press ctrl-[ twice this will open the Create frame or prompt wizzard Choose frame. This way it will create a frame as big as the edit-window. Type a name for your frame. Body for example. It may not contain spaces. Press enter for next. Write a short description. Reads body of message press enter, now you can write a longer description. Press enter. Now you can assign a hotkey for this frame. alt-1 for example. tab to next. The last option, when text is written into this frame how do you want it to be echoed, you leave this at the default: echo Jaws screen press enter. You are ready with creating this frame. you will land in the Frame viewer. Tab to Close and press enter. Answer yes to save your new frame. When you open a message, it will not read it automaticly, but with alt-1 you can read it. The next step is to read the frame whe the cursor is in this window. Press ins-f2 to open a list of different managers and choose the Frame viewer. Tab to the option: Frames list Select your new frame: body Tab to Frame properties and enter. press ctrl-tab two times to tgo to the events tab. Tab to the Add button. Select on focus and tab to next Select: say frame and tab to next Select your new framename: body Tab to ok and you are beck in the frame viewer. Go to close and save your changes. With a bit of luck, your mail will be spoken when you open it. I have it working on my computer, but my experience is, that on an other computer, the frame has to be created again. Regards, Marten On Wed, 31 May 2017 01:13:31 -0700 Curtis Delzer via Scripting <[email protected]> wrote: > and, hey, I use Becky, and every time I "open" any message, window-eyes > auto reads the pertinent lines of the message automatically, NVDA does > with references to headers which window-eyes ignores by default, and JFW, > and Becky does not auto read at all. > I wish it did! and did it like window-eyes, and it seems it could be an > easy fix for some talented individual who knows what I am referring too > about the auto-read capability of window-eyes of the 24 or so lines of > the first page of the Becky! mail message. Reads it like a "field" I > think, not sure. > THANKS! > -- > Curtis Delzer, H.S. > WB6HEF > Rialto, CA. > <[email protected]> > > On Tue, 30 May 2017 16:32:10 -0400 > Doug Lee via Scripting <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Speaking as a professional JAWS scripter, I admit I'm surprised to hear you > > needed 22 files for what sounds like a simple script. Typically you would > > have these: > > > > - A jss file, which compiles to a jsb file, for the code itself. We'll > > count that as two. You type your code into the jss file and the JAWS Script > > Manager makes the jsb file when you compile it. > > - A jsd file for the help text for the scripts. Handled automatically by > > the JAWS Script Manager in many cases. > > - A jkm file for key mappings. Handled automatically by the Script Manager > > in many cases. > > > > You may also include a jcf file for configuration options and/or a jdf file > > for dictionary entries, though I doubt your script set for Window-Eyes had > > the latter. If you want to name graphic icons, you could use a jgf file. > > Frames, though rarely used these days, would involve a jff and a jfd file; > > but again, I doubt those would be involved in your project. > > > > I'm still a ways from 22. :-) > > > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 04:20:46PM -0400, Tom Kingston via Scripting wrote: > > JAWS scripting is a proprietary mish mash of this that the other and his > > brother. So there's no such thing as real world resources such as with > > Python. > > I wrote the Window-Eyes script for Reaper and was then surprised to find > > that > > the JAWS script was not locked up. So I downloaded it and took a quick > > look. I > > couldn't believe that what I did in one small VBS file, an XML file, a set > > file, and a we file required 22 files to be done in JAWS. > > Needless to say, I have no interest in learning a proprietary scripting > > method. And I suspect it will probably seem nonsensical to a real > > programmer's > > mind. But that's just speculation. It comes from an experience years ago > > when > > a friend of mine wanted to learn JAWS scripting. Knowing nothing about it I > > assumed that at least the common denominators of virtually all programming > > languages would apply. Boy was I wrong. My understanding is that it has > > become > > at least somewhat more conventional. But unless all else fails it's not a > > mess > > I wish to drown in. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > > > On 5/30/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Long via Scripting wrote: > > > What about scripting for Jaws? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Scripting > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn via Scripting > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:53 AM > > > To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Scripting List > > > Subject: Re: migrating apps > > > > > > Mr Lee of NVAccess / NVDA proposed on twitter yesterday having a one day > > > class on scripting NVDA. I guess it is time to learn Python. Anybody > > > interested in doing a set of regular discussions like Chip did way back to > > > migrate our common knowledge into NVDA scripting knowledge? I wonder how > > > difficult it would be to have an NVDA that emulates the favorite parts of > > > WindowEyes. I expect the hardest part considering that NVDA doesn't appear > > > to have a virtual mode would be the User Windows functions but then it > > > seems > > > that WindowEyes wasn't supporting that very aggressively. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:01 PM Chip Orange via Scripting < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > You could look at the possibility of running your app as a Windows > > > > VBScript rather than a Window-Eyes VBScript. You'd have to do without > > > > the WE dialogs and all the other WE features of scripting which we all > > > > used, but if you don't make use of these features very much, you might > > > > be able to get a Windows VBScript version to run. If you could, this > > > > would be the easiest way to get some apps converted away from WE. > > > > > > > > VBScript does have some very basic input and output commands (you can > > > > display a dialog and get a string response from the user), this could > > > > possibly be enough for your needs. It has no equivalents to MSAA or > > > > Windows etc., so nothing which assisted you with accessibility is > > > > likely to run. > > > > > > > > Of course, Window-Eyes will continue to run for some indefinite amount > > > > of time ... and I'd be glad to share the source code to Remind Me > > > > Where with anyone who'd like to try tinkering with it while it does. > > > > If you wanted to keep something big like it is running, I would guess > > > > learning VB.net might be the closest to what you're used to. > > > > > > > > Like Richard, I feel something like the end of Animal Farm as well. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Scripting > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On Behalf Of David via Scripting > > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 AM > > > > To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Scripting List > > > > Subject: migrating apps > > > > > > > > I do understand that an app that has been developed under the great > > > > scripting capability of WineEyes, will not be possible to simply plug > > > > in under Jaws. At least, it is my understanding, that Jaws has its own > > > > dedicated scripting system. > > > > > > > > Still, a number of apps, both officially released and many that I have > > > > developed for my personal usage, would be a great miss when migrating. > > > > Whenever the migrating will be. Smile. > > > > > > > > Now, is there a way for me, to make my apps become stand-alone, in the > > > > sense that they could be run under any screen reader? That they still > > > > would be using features like the UI capabilities and other > > > > functionality of for instance GWToolkit? I do understand, that apps > > > > that make great usage of, or directly works with internal features of > > > > WinEyes, may not be possible to run under any other screen readers, > > > > since they won't have any functionality to hook on to. But an app like > > > > for instance the "remind me where", that Chip Orange developed, and > > > > which base its main functionality on information from the net, and > > > > greatly on the UI environment of WinEyes scripting, sould such a > > > > program be possible to make go general? Sure I could have thought of a > > > > good number of other apps that I have come to rely on, and which would > > > > have been great to see under other screen readers. > > > > > > > > Guess my basic question is, what would I need to do in my app code, to > > > > make it possible to run outside the WinEyes environment, if that is at > > > > all possible? And if realistic, does there exist any sample code that > > > > I can look at, so as to see it done in practicality? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > > > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/lis > > > > ts3717 > > > > %40comcast.net > > > > <http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/li > > > > sts3717%40comcast.net> > > > > . > > > > For subscription options, visit > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > List archives can be found at > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/jon > > > > .c.cohn%40gmail.com > > > > . > > > > For subscription options, visit > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > List archives can be found at > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > <http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/attachme > > > nts/20170530/13d902d4/attachment.htm> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > author > > > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/dennisl19 > > > 82%40gmail.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > List archives can be found at > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > > > For subscription options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > List archives can be found at > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/doug.lee%40ssbbartgroup.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > -- > > Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer > > SSB BART Group (soon to be Level Access) > > mailto:[email protected] http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > > "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, > > it was done." --Helen Keller > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com
