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Re: parenthesized WhiteElo and BlackElo (Alexander Wagner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:01:09 +0100 From: "Gerd Lorscheid" <gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Error on Engine Annotation (maybe when "Mark Exercise" is enabled) To: "'Joost 't Hart'" <joost.t.h...@planet.nl>, <scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <000c01cbd383$a6b33510$f4199f30$@lorsch...@onlinehome.de> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I am sorry! I will have a look. But it will take some days, because the code has changed a bit and needs to be adapted. Gerd -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011 18:32 An: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Error on Engine Annotation (maybe when "Mark Exercise" is enabled) On 02/23/2011 12:00 PM, Joost 't Hart wrote: Hi, > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Steve Steinitz > <li...@datatactics.com.au> wrote: > > Hi, > >> Hi >> >> I'm liking Scid more and more. Thanks again to the contributors. >> >> I hope this the right place to mention a possible bug. >> >> In version 4.3, I've started seeing errors during engine annotation. It may >> be dependant on the "Mark Exercise" option. I was able to finish the game's >> annotation by turning that option off. >> >> I've pasted the info from the error dialog below. I can probably reproduce >> it so please let me know if any further info would be useful. > Thanks, for reporting! > > I will check and repair this ASAP (which will be, after a week > holidays, on March 5 or thereabouts). Found it... In revision 1.66 of tkscid.cpp (on Jan 2, 2011) some so-called unused code was removed. I suggest the offender puts it back himself :-) Of course this can only happen because we have an interpreted language here (and a matter of careless grep'ing). Cheers, Joost. > Cheers, > Joost. > >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> >> It showed this twice: >> >> Invalid command: sc_pos has the following minor commands: >> addNag >> bestSquare >> board >> clearNags >> fen >> getComment >> getNags >> hash >> html >> isAt >> isLegal >> isPromotion >> matchMoves >> moveNumber >> pgnBoard >> pgnOffset >> probe >> setComment >> side >> tex >> moves >> >> And then this: >> >> while executing >> "sc_pos analyze -time 1000 -hashkb 32 -pawnkb 1 -searchdepth $depth " >> (procedure "markExercise" line 42) >> invoked from within >> "markExercise $prevscore $score "?" " >> (procedure "addAnnotation" line 240) >> invoked from within >> "addAnnotation" >> (procedure "autoplay" line 14) >> invoked from within >> "autoplay" >> ("after" script) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Scid-users mailing list > Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:13:24 +0100 From: Joost 't Hart <joost.t.h...@planet.nl> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Error on Engine Annotation (maybe when "Mark Exercise" is enabled) To: Gerd Lorscheid <gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de> Cc: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <4d654e44.1010...@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/23/2011 07:01 PM, Gerd Lorscheid wrote: > Hello, > > I am sorry! I will have a look. But it will take some days, because the code > has changed a bit and needs to be adapted. :-) It is a simple merge, fortunately. Just run a diff 1.65 -> 1.66 and copy the result into the latest version. Cheers, Joost. > Gerd > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011 18:32 > An: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Error on Engine Annotation (maybe when "Mark > Exercise" is enabled) > > On 02/23/2011 12:00 PM, Joost 't Hart wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Steve Steinitz >> <li...@datatactics.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm liking Scid more and more. Thanks again to the contributors. >>> >>> I hope this the right place to mention a possible bug. >>> >>> In version 4.3, I've started seeing errors during engine annotation. It > may >>> be dependant on the "Mark Exercise" option. I was able to finish the > game's >>> annotation by turning that option off. >>> >>> I've pasted the info from the error dialog below. I can probably > reproduce >>> it so please let me know if any further info would be useful. >> Thanks, for reporting! >> >> I will check and repair this ASAP (which will be, after a week >> holidays, on March 5 or thereabouts). > Found it... > > In revision 1.66 of tkscid.cpp (on Jan 2, 2011) some so-called unused > code was removed. > > I suggest the offender puts it back himself :-) > > Of course this can only happen because we have an interpreted language > here (and a > matter of careless grep'ing). > > Cheers, > Joost. > >> Cheers, >> Joost. >> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> It showed this twice: >>> >>> Invalid command: sc_pos has the following minor commands: >>> addNag >>> bestSquare >>> board >>> clearNags >>> fen >>> getComment >>> getNags >>> hash >>> html >>> isAt >>> isLegal >>> isPromotion >>> matchMoves >>> moveNumber >>> pgnBoard >>> pgnOffset >>> probe >>> setComment >>> side >>> tex >>> moves >>> >>> And then this: >>> >>> while executing >>> "sc_pos analyze -time 1000 -hashkb 32 -pawnkb 1 -searchdepth $depth " >>> (procedure "markExercise" line 42) >>> invoked from within >>> "markExercise $prevscore $score "?" " >>> (procedure "addAnnotation" line 240) >>> invoked from within >>> "addAnnotation" >>> (procedure "autoplay" line 14) >>> invoked from within >>> "autoplay" >>> ("after" script) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in >> Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT > data >> generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, > virtual >> or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business >> insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Scid-users mailing list >> Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT > data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, > virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Scid-users mailing list > Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:31:44 -0500 From: Mark Morss <cornst...@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] parenthesized WhiteElo and BlackElo To: Joost 't Hart <joost.t.h...@planet.nl> Cc: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <1298493104.8326.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for that suggestion. I must say, though, that if Scid has this number handy, it should be an option to have it written out at export time. That's a whole lot less work for the user than the procedure you suggest. I understand that this may be a rather specialized need. Best, Mark On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 18:12 +0100, Joost 't Hart wrote: > On 02/23/2011 05:43 PM, Mark Morss wrote: > > Hi, > > > When I export a file of PGN games, I discover if WhiteElo and/or > > BlackElo appear within parentheses in the game list, they are not > > supplied at all in the exported PGN tags. I also discover, when I > > browse one of these games in Scid, again this info is not shown. > > Further when I load one of these games, the given Elo info is shown in > > red and starred. > > > > I looked in the help facility and couldn't find anything about this. I > > assume that parenthesized Elos are Scid's guess of some player's Elo at > > the time of the game, probably based on a player file and an undated Elo > > there. But I should have the option of including this estimated Elo in > > my exports to pgn. Why is it considered important enough to show in the > > game list and not important enough to export to pgn? > > A game export does a game export. And your guess is right: If the game > list shows the rating in parentheses, actual rating data are missing in > the game, and they are somehow extrapolated from rated games by the same > player. > > > I have an application for game info which rejects games with missing > > Elos. So the effect, for example, is that Klocker - Sveshnikov, > > Cesenatico 2010 will be excluded from my application, not withstanding > > that the one is White is rated over 2200 and Black is a GM! Copying > > this kind of info by hand is no option, since I am processing many > > thousands of games with a PHP script. There should be an easy way to > > export this info from Scid. > > You can rate games using the "add elo ratings feature" that is part of > the spell checker. > > 1) Get an ssp file that contains rating data from the scid website (that > is, the big one) > 2) Load this ssp file from the options menu > 3) First do a playername spell check, as rating corrections are only > applied for exactly matching names. > 4) Next add the elo ratings > > Cheers, > Joost. > > > Best to all, > > > > Mark F. Morss NM > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT > > data > > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, > > virtual > > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Scid-users mailing list > > Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Scid-users mailing list > Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:20:07 +1100 From: Steve Steinitz <li...@datatactics.com.au> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Error on Engine Annotation (maybe when "Mark Exercise" is enabled) To: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <r420ps-1066i-A14F4BE9B2C2428C82E0578A2B7FDD3B@MacBookPro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 02/23/2011 12:00 PM, Joost 't Hart wrote: >>>In version 4.3, I've started seeing errors during engine annotation. It may >>>be dependant on the "Mark Exercise" option. I was able to finish the game's >>>annotation by turning that option off. >>I will check and repair this ASAP (which will be, after a week >>holidays, on March 5 or thereabouts). > >Found it... > >In revision 1.66 of tkscid.cpp (on Jan 2, 2011) some so-called unused code was >removed. > >I suggest the offender puts it back himself :-) Thanks for your quick diagnosis, Joost. I confess some amusement at the cause. Cheers, Steve ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:31:13 +0100 From: Alexander Wagner <a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Allowed path length To: Bernhard Rulla <bernhard.ru...@freenet.de> Cc: List <scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <4d66b201.7000...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/22/11 20:55, Bernhard Rulla wrote: Hi! > Can it be that there is a maximum allowed path length? > > When I try to open a file from > C:\Users\Rulla\Bernis Dateien\Schach\Eroeffnungen\A57-A59 Wolgagambit > > I get the error message "Error opening index file". > > When I open the same file from > C:\Users\Rulla\Desktop\Schach > > ... no problem! Ok, I may summarise the result of Bernhards investigation. It's not the length of the path and even the spaces seem ok, but there is an issue with "funny characters" on Windows path names (ie. a path e.g. with an ? like in Er?ffnungen is broken.) cu Alexander ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:44:43 +0100 From: Alexander Wagner <a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: Re: [Scid-users] parenthesized WhiteElo and BlackElo To: Mark Morss <cornst...@columbus.rr.com> Cc: Joost 't Hart <joost.t.h...@planet.nl>, scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <4d66b52b.9000...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/23/11 21:31, Mark Morss wrote: Hi! > Thanks for that suggestion. I must say, though, that if Scid has this > number handy, it should be an option to have it written out at export > time. That's a whole lot less work for the user than the procedure you > suggest. I understand that this may be a rather specialized need. If you use the spell checker with one of Franz excellent ratings files Scid does actually a bit more than estimating the ratings. It really looks them up in the ratings file compares to the time frame and name and adds the rating that was published by FIDE for this very player at that time. If and only if, this comparison returns only one result. This still has some issues with ambiguous names (you can't individualise a person by her name only and you don't have better data in the usual PGN headers; most of the time you don't even have the full correct name :S) So in a way Scid tries here to avoid an automatism that might fail very well. Consider one of your junior players in your local Club which happens to be named "Kasparov, Garry". Spell checking your last Club turnament will rate your junior player 2812 Elo. In that way you should definitely do this only with some sort of supervision. Even if you take Scids estimated value to be written to the exported game, this might not be correct at all. E.g. if you have two (several) players in your base that have the same name and play at different levels the estimated value will be wrong. However, if you write out the ELO to the games headers this suggests that these are real values, ie. you know that they belong to the person that played this game. That's the main reason why this is a bit more complex here and not done automatically. Given the above problems, the librarian in me tells me that this is actually wise to do it that way. cu Alexander ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. 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