On 01/16/2011 03:31 AM, f...@libero.it wrote: Hi!
> It is funny, but maybe we are saying the same thing :-) Right. As far as I follow the discussion the argument is between using games list for everything or best games. At least in many areas. > 1) Opening study. > I have a "study" database where i open a new game to enter the opening moves. > Then i open the "big" database as a tree to show stats and interesting games. > It's the same as you do, except that i use the best games window instead of > the game list window and i will save my analysis before closing scid. > Why i prefer the best games window? Because its ordered and it's related to > the stats. Agree. Thats why I use it as well. As far as I get it Gerds main complaint about the best games is that it is quite limited compared to the games list. One point I actually don't like myself is, that I can't remove a dupe once I find it in the best games. Also it doesn't show all infos the games list shows. (E.g. to find a commented game you'd at least have to run current cvs, up to 4.2.2 no flags were displayed in the best games.) Here I'm not sure, however, if his suggestions are not missusing the games list and in the end rise confusion. > Honestly i don't use the simple average elo of players for ordering games, but > i'm tinkering with a "penalty" system that subtract to the average elo > penalties for old games, early draws, blitz and blindfold games, difference of > players elo, uncommented game. I'd be greatly interested in this. You mused about this some time ago and IMHO average elo really needs some improvement. > It's very difficult to find a good balance > between this penalties that makes the best games go up on the list, but i > found > it quite acceptable and better than the unordered game list window. What are you using? > The "study" and "big" database example should clarify why i say that the games > list window is not logically related with the tree window. In my case i'm > working on the "study" database so correctly the game list window is not > touched by the tree window. Same to me. > 2) Looking at a tournament. > I keep updated the "big" database with twic pgns, and sometimes i like to > watch games of a given tournament. > So i open my "big" database and filter it accordingly. > But when looking at an interesting game, if i open a tree window to check the > stats of an interesting opening, my filter was lost. This is indeed a bad side effect of automatic games list updates. I experience this as well (see my other mail). > 3) Opponent preparation > I usually open the "big" database and filter for searching the games of my > opponent (with the color he will play). > Than drag it to the clipboard and open two tree window: one for the full "big" > database and one for the clipboard. %s/clipboard/clipbase/g Wording is difficult here. > So I have stats for the full database and the stats only for my future > opponent. I can see at the same time the teoretical lines and the lines > usually > played by my opponent. In one best tree games window i can see the most > interesting games of best players, and in other the games of my opponent. I think this is supposed to be the default Scid workflow since <a long time>. However, I feel most people do not realise the clipbase. Btw: using the clipbase here would not work out for me as actually the CC functions rely on the clipbase quite a bit for game synchronisation. So I'd have to use another base. > 4) Correct tree behavior in my opinion > As it has ever been, except that it shouldn't change the game list window. > If it's useful, add a button in the game list window that automatically filter > for the current position (that can be used even if the tree window is not > opened) > > If this is what you mean with "decouple", we perfectly agree. Agree, but there needs to be some way for the user to understand what he currently sees. I feel this is also important. So, probably having checkboxes in the games list that signify which filters are applied could work. Doing all this in the background might not. cu Alexander ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
