On 06/02/2010 11:48 PM, Israel Chauca F. wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Alexander Wagner wrote:
>    
>> Joost 't Hart wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>      
>>>> 1. Yesterday i downloaded Scid 4.2.2, and i also bought the 
>>>> "scidtactics.zip" package.
>>>> 2. When i launch Scid, two windows open, one of them saying it cannot find 
>>>> the bases directory - see the attached .jpg.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> This is normal behaviour. This "bases" directory is - sort of - the 
>>> standard path to all your databases. Once scid is running, you can set it 
>>> through one of the options.
>>> Having said that: This is alert not exactly user friendly and personally I 
>>> do not use the standard path at all. Hence I feel there is no reason 
>>> whatsoever for this pop-up.
>>>        
>> Should we move it to the inital startup of the tactics training? Ie if no 
>> path is set alert it there and move on to the proper dialogue? I could check 
>> how to do this. Opinions?
>>      
> Sounds reasonable to me.
>
>    
>>>> 3. Though the smaller window has a button marked "Ok", nothing happens 
>>>> when i click on that button.
>>>> 4. The only option is to force-quit the program.
>>>>          
>>> At least, the smaller window dialogue should disappear. Does it?
>>> This sort of confusion may be the result of some of our wiser friends to no 
>>> longer show scid's start-up banner by default.
>>> Starting scid may actually take quite some time. Are you sure that you do 
>>> not kill the process while scid is still booting up (observe memory 
>>> consumption or something like that in a process monitor)?
>>>        
>> Ok, you spelled out my concerns about disabling the start up dialogue. Can 
>> we get some opinion about this point? IMHO it is a very sensible thing. IMHO 
>> it is valuable especially as it displays the texts it does. But loud 
>> complaints about usability made me to hide it by default.
>>
>> BUT: it should only be hidden in the CVS version not to the last release. 
>> Therefore John should see it, not?
>>      
> While I think that showing the splash window by default is useful, John is 
> talking about the bases not found dialog, not the splash window. I don't know 
> why, but once that dialog pops-up, it cannot be dismissed, clicking on the ok 
> button or typing Enter doesn't work (actually, seems like the button doesn't 
> receive the click or the keystroke) and you can't interact with any other 
> window on Scid, so it looks like it froze, but I think it didn't.
>    

Hm, I cannot confirm this on my Linux box. Pressing OK dismisses the 
"bases not found" dialog. Most of  the time I do this rather quickly, 
that is, before the real scid windows pop up.

I understand that John was not talking about the splash screen indeed. 
But this screen may produce some insight as to understand at what stage 
the scid app crashes - if it does do so.

>    
>>      
>>>> 5. I have a 27" iMac intel duo, running OS X 10.6.3.
>>>> 6. I have lots of experience maintaining my Macs, but nothing i've tried 
>>>> makes any difference.
>>>> 7. What suggestions do you have?
>>>>          
>>> Did you have an older version of scid on your system? If so, you may want 
>>> to try to set your existing ~/.scid folder aside.
>>>        
>> I think John is using a Mac. What's the translation of ~/.scid on the Mac?
>>      
> It's the same path.
>
>    
>>> Can you start scid from a command line, and check if some information is 
>>> dumped there?
>>>        
>> I may add that the "command line" is AFAIK called "Terminal" on the Mac (and 
>> its starter is well hidden). Depending on the dmg setup it might not be too 
>> obvious how to start the app from there as far as my little experience with 
>> the Mac tells me. Israel, could you give a helping hand here? You're the 
>> expert.
>>      
> Launching Scid from the terminal is not that intuitive, assuming the Scid.app 
> is in the Applications folder, the command to lunch scid would be:
>
> /Applications/Scid.app/Contents/MacOS/scid
>
> Israel
>    


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